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Your Health Insurance Is Going To Go Up

According to the Heritage Foundation, Americans of all ages are going to see massive increases in their health insurance premiums under U.S. President Barack Obama’s new socialized medicine law. Which makes it all the more baffling why this so-called “conservative” think tank folded like a cheap lawn chair during the…

According to the Heritage Foundation, Americans of all ages are going to see massive increases in their health insurance premiums under U.S. President Barack Obama’s new socialized medicine law.

Which makes it all the more baffling why this so-called “conservative” think tank folded like a cheap lawn chair during the recent debate over defunding Obamacare.

Oh well … this obviously isn’t the first time these neocons have been “all hat and no cattle” when it comes to protecting taxpayers, but this latest sellout is especially depressing considering it took place under the leadership of U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint.

Anyway …

Heritage has released a new statistical analysis of the impact of Obamacare in all fifty states – breaking down premium increases for a single 27-year-old adult, a single 50-year-old adult and a family of four. In all but five states, premiums go up – in some cases stratospherically.

“Individuals in most states will end up spending more on the exchanges,” Heritage researchers conclude, adding that ” the claims of savings on premiums for the average participant is a fantasy.”

Here’s the data …

Source Report: How Will You Fare in the Obamacare Exchanges?

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47 comments

idcydm October 21, 2013 at 10:54 am

The first big lie Obama told was you can keep your plan. He failed to mention you could keep your plan only if it meet all coverage requirements in the ACA.

Obama lied.

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? October 21, 2013 at 11:00 am

In defense of Obama, 98% of pols lie 98% of the time.

The other 2% when they don’t it’s usually unintended.

The first thing to do when any pols opens his mouth or any government press release is issued is believe the exact opposite, and you will likely be closer to the truth 98% of the time.

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idcydm October 21, 2013 at 11:04 am

“These days, the only time politicians tell the truth is when they call
each other a liar.” ~Alfred E. Neuman

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shifty henry October 21, 2013 at 2:13 pm

Senator Bluster informs his staff that he is going to train his memory.
“I don’t know what system to use, but I’m looking for one that will
enable me, when I am interviewed, to remember what to forget.”

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Smirks October 21, 2013 at 1:25 pm

you could keep your plan only if it meet all coverage requirements in the ACA.

You’d have to have some really shitty insurance for it to not meet the requirements of the ACA, buddy. I’ve talked to a number of people who have pretty crappy coverage and they got the letter stating that it meets the ACA’s requirements.

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idcydm October 21, 2013 at 5:19 pm

Maternity coverage…forcing some people to buy what they don’t need, they aren’t keeping the same plan.

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Sailor October 21, 2013 at 11:02 am

This survey was conducted by the Heritage Foundation. Does anyone believe it is completely unbiased? If so, I have some really great beachfront property in Arizona at a really good price!

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Tom October 21, 2013 at 11:10 am

Of course these numbers are typical Heritage disinformation, and half information. But, what’s new? Its what the Teapublicans do these days.
There is real fear, by the backers of the Teapublicans that the ACA will be popular once fully implemented and that all the dire predictions of Heritage, Faux, and Rush will not come true.

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idcydm October 21, 2013 at 11:11 am

Kind of like the Center for American Progress wouldn’t you agree?

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competence matters October 21, 2013 at 11:33 am

Teaparty was created to take advantage of ignorant people. It’s working…

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Jackie Chiles October 21, 2013 at 12:01 pm

When you can’t argue the facts, attack the messenger. Nice tactic.

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EJB October 21, 2013 at 12:14 pm

Soooo, you don’t like Heritage so every thing they do is wrong, no facts, no examples no nothing they are just plain wrong because you say so? Can’t disprove anything they have printed can you? You have to do better than this to convince me.

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Torch October 21, 2013 at 6:06 pm

They got their information from Hannity.

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Competence Matters October 21, 2013 at 11:26 am

You are comparing apples to green beans. Lies, deamn lies and statistics. Premiums are going up but so are corporate insurer’s profit margins.

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Thomas October 21, 2013 at 12:08 pm

This post must be a Will Folk’s shill post to stir up comments. Notice the deliberate spelling and punctuation errors on all these type of comments. Every story he puts up will have anonymous comments like this minutes after he posts the story. People do not hover around like vultures waiting to be the first comment, the present 4-5 retired homebodies on these comment sections excluded. Pathetic

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Jackie Chiles October 21, 2013 at 12:00 pm

I’m laughing that now Heritage Foundation isn’t conservative to Fits anymore.

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? October 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm

The terms ‘conservative’ in the political spectrum has become mostly useless anyway, probably more so than ‘liberal’.

These labels have become nothing more than play things for media spinners and WWF matches for the cheering/warring uneducated masses.

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Thomas October 21, 2013 at 12:04 pm

Your health insurance premiums, from union ATT workers to SC state government workers, are doubling in price soon. ATT can raise the prices for their products or drop coverage completely and pay the penalty. Better think twice if you think raising SC state taxes will cover the healthcare premium increases for the 10% of SC’s population under current healthcare promises associated with employment for SC or SC counties and municipalities.

And your healthcare policies simply will be canceled. Individual healthcare policies are being dropped all over the nation. You better think twice if you think the SC individual or corporate taxpayer is going to make up the difference in SC worker/retirement healthcare plan cost increases. SC and states all across the nation will have to drop taxpayer subsidized healthcare promises to new hires or retired state workers.

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johnq October 21, 2013 at 12:19 pm

Rates in SC will be higher than states that set up exchanges for the simple reason there won’t be as much competition for those not taking advantage of the ACA. This was complements of Haley and the republican party.

Rates will be higher for those earning over $40,000 as depicted in the chart though their out of pocket costs will be less, much less. The chart doesn’t take into account that most policies quoted in the chart are likely junk insurance with high deductibles.

Brainwashed dumbasses may look at a number quoted for their premium and conclude that because the number is lower it is a better deal. The rub comes when they break a leg and have to come up with cash for a deductible before they get the privilege of paying 20% to 30% out of pocket for the full amount of the bill. With the ACA they would still have to pay their premium and out of pocket costs except the ACA limits out of pocket costs to a max of around $6,450. Less for those with subsidies which is about 50% of South Carolinian workers.

By all means all dumbfuck teatards should shun Obamacare for junk insurance. It will be a pleasure to watch them join the 60% of bankruptcies that are caused by health care costs of those with insurance. Or better yet, just pay the fine so when you get sick you can enter the republicans idea of health care and go to the emergency room for care.

Fuck You! If you vote republican you get what you DESERVE!!

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SCDEW October 21, 2013 at 12:22 pm

Have you made your 10 phone calls looking for a job today? Remember, we need signatures or a contact name and number for each if you want to continue getting checks.

Sure, we won’t follow up on what you put down, but you better make it look good.

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Smirks October 21, 2013 at 1:46 pm

Rates in SC will be higher than states that set up exchanges for the
simple reason there won’t be as much competition for those not taking
advantage of the ACA. This was complements of Haley and the republican
party.

You’ve got it all wrong. We have to let the federal government run the exchange for us because (1) it makes the feds pick up the tab for us and (2) it makes it a bigger burden on the feds, thus political brownie points. Of course, when things aren’t absolutely perfect, we then get to bitch about how it wasn’t run our way despite our insistence on someone else running it for us. Oh, and then the Medicaid Expansion? Free for a little bit, but then we have to pay 10% of it? The bastards! Just because our state would likely benefit more than most other states from it doesn’t mean we should actually have to chip in a dime per dollar!

We’re just the asshole regular at the United States Bar and Grill; it doesn’t matter how big the discount is, we’re going to bitch and moan until our meal is comped, and quite likely, continue to bitch and moan long afterwards. Every now and then there’s the grumbling threat of leaving the restaurant (via secession), and the wait staff just mumbles under their breath wishing we would, but hell, we can’t pass up the free meals we’ve been getting for decades now, can we?

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Walter-White October 21, 2013 at 12:28 pm

Under the ACA my wife’s policy is a much better policy for $14 less per month with no subsidies or tax breaks. Gold policy from Consumer Choice.

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Tom October 21, 2013 at 5:07 pm

So for those voting down, what’s the issue here? Do you hate walter-white and wish him and his wife ill will, or are you unhappy he found a deal on the exchanges?

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SCBlues October 21, 2013 at 6:55 pm

Answer: Obama- Haters
Right now they call it ObamaCare – if it is successful they will demand that his name be dropped from it – if successful, they’ll probably pass all kinds of legislation that it has to be named something like RepublicanCare or CruzCare as it was THEIR idea all along . . .

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vlenin October 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm

You can keep your doctor, too!

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Derpcon 5 October 21, 2013 at 12:56 pm

It’s been going up for years, nothing to do with the ACA. Us job creators know that.

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? October 21, 2013 at 9:41 pm

It jumped quite a bit when the law passed, much more than years past. Further, wasn’t the major selling point during the debate on it that it was going to “lower” insurance cost? Let me help you, the answer is “yes”.

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Smirks October 21, 2013 at 1:23 pm

I’ll pay extra if it means that the insurance company can’t completely fuck me over through some shitty technicality. Of course, we’ll see if my rate actually goes up by any significant amount, as I have yet to see any notice that I’ll be paying more for mine.

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tomstickler October 21, 2013 at 1:49 pm

Couldn’t get past the first line: “According to the Heritage Foundation. . . .”

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euwe max October 21, 2013 at 5:08 pm

You really should try – I generally use one of the benzodiazepines – once you get through the outer shell of insanity as reality, it’s pretty funny!

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SCBlues October 21, 2013 at 6:50 pm

Too funny!!! Gave me my best laugh of the day – thanks, euwe max

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euwe max October 22, 2013 at 7:14 pm

Thank you… thank you… I’ll be here all week.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/abc_politics_forum

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euwe max October 21, 2013 at 5:08 pm

You really should try – I generally use one of the benzodiazepines – once you get through the outer shell of insanity as reality, it’s pretty funny!

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Centrist View October 21, 2013 at 3:10 pm

You can look up policies Pre-Obamacare starting coverage in 2013 and Obamacare compliant starting coverage in 2014. Aside from the cost difference, you will see a significant decrease in the number of options offered in 2014.

http://www.ehealthinsurance.com/

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euwe max October 21, 2013 at 5:06 pm

I know, right? I’m not paying anything right now – it costs too much! I’d have to pay 1200 bucks a month to cover my wife and I while I’m unemployed. (Cobra). When I finally get Obama Care it’s going to cost 380 bucks! Three Hundred and Eighty Smackeroos! That’s a lot of dead presidents!

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idcydm October 21, 2013 at 5:10 pm

“unemployed”…how can you afford to be on the internet?

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euwe max October 22, 2013 at 7:10 pm

Blue Sky.

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idcydm October 21, 2013 at 5:10 pm

“unemployed”…how can you afford to be on the internet?

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Tom October 21, 2013 at 5:11 pm

No its not you can elect to remain uncovered, and pay the $1000 a year. Then when you go to the emergency room for care. Those of us with insurance will help pay for you. And the Teapublicans are fighting to get you out of the $1000..

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euwe max October 22, 2013 at 7:12 pm

380 bucks a year is less than 1000. I know, cause I just looked it up.

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euwe max October 21, 2013 at 5:06 pm

I know, right? I’m not paying anything right now – it costs too much! I’d have to pay 1200 bucks a month to cover my wife and I while I’m unemployed. (Cobra). When I finally get Obama Care it’s going to cost 380 bucks! Three Hundred and Eighty Smackeroos! That’s a lot of dead presidents!

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Marcus Welby October 21, 2013 at 6:15 pm

I remember when health insurance rates were going DOWN before this ACA thing,Dont you?

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Tom October 21, 2013 at 7:15 pm

No, my rates have gone up every year for the past 7 years.

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Marcus Welby October 21, 2013 at 7:45 pm

The irony was apparently lost.Of course,your rates keep going up.Thats the point.Republicans act as if rates wouldn’t be going up without the new health law.

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? October 21, 2013 at 9:43 pm

It’s all a matter of how much. 5-10% yearly increases are different from a 25% increase when Obamacare was passed.

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Tom October 21, 2013 at 11:41 pm

Oh, OK then never mind.

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idcydm October 21, 2013 at 9:04 pm

The GEICO ad on this page, just enter your zip code and you can save 15% on your car insurance.

Everybody knows that.

Did you know Obama can’t build a web site?

Call 1-800-Obamacare for non-answers to rates and subsidies.

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