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Trey Gowdy On Due Process

CONGRESSMAN WORKS OVER HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICIAL … Some days we like Trey Gowdy … other days we don’t. Today we like him … The third-term congressman from South Carolina – who is reportedly being eyed as a S.C. Supreme Court justice – blistered an official at the U.S. Department of Homeland…

CONGRESSMAN WORKS OVER HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICIAL …

Some days we like Trey Gowdy … other days we don’t.

Today we like him …

The third-term congressman from South Carolina – who is reportedly being eyed as a S.C. Supreme Court justice – blistered an official at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) recently over a new policy that would deny Second Amendment rights to any individual placed on the federal government’s “no-fly” list.

That sounds reasonable enough on the surface … but dig a little deeper and it becomes clear this is another backdoor Barack Obama gun grab.

“What process is afforded a U.S. citizen, not someone who’s overstayed a visa, not someone who crossed a border without permission, but an American citizen – what process is currently afforded an American citizen before they go on that list?” Gowdy asked DHS official Kelli Ann Burriesci during a hearing this week.

“I’m sorry, um, there’s not a process afforded the citizen prior to getting on the list,” Burriesci responded. “There is a process should someone feel they’re unduly placed on the list.”

Gowdy was having none of it …

“My question is, can you name another constitutional right we have that is chilled until you find out it’s chilled, and then you have to petition the government to get it back?” he asked.  “Is that true with the First Amendment?”

Burriesci attempted to respond, but Gowdy cut her off.

“How about we not let them set up a website?” he continued. “Or a Google account? How about we not let them join a church until they can petition government to get off the list? How about not get a lawyer? How about the Sixth Amendment? How about you can’t get a lawyer until you petition the government to get off the list? Or, my favorite, how about the Eighth Amendment? We’re going to subject you to cruel and unusual punishment until you petition the government to get off the list.”

Damn …

“Is there another constitutional right that we treat the same way, for American citizens, that we do the Second Amendment?” Gowdy concluded. “Can you think of one?”

(Silence).

“Can you think of one?” Gowdy repeated.

“I don’t have an answer for you, sir,” Burriesci finally said.

Here’s the clip …

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71 comments

Bob December 16, 2015 at 9:48 am

Did he forget the right to move freely within our borders. I assume under his logic is we should eliminate the no fly list . Until someone is proven to be a terrorist we should let them travel on planes like everyone else. No special precautions. We are after all affecting a Constitutional right.

And how about voting? Why do we presume everyone is a noncitizen and make them prove they are? Should we not presume people are entitled to vote until someone proves they are not. I guess not, since that would put our most important Constitutional Right on par with the right to buy a handgun.

There are plenty more, so just more rambling nonsense. Just like in the Benghazi hearings. Please god don’t let this idiot on the Court.

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Pre-crime December 16, 2015 at 9:52 am

What do you think of the short story, “Minority Report”? Have you read it?

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Victorious Secret December 16, 2015 at 10:11 am

Bob:

Enlighten me, please. Which amendment gives one the right to travel on airplanes?

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Bob from Accounting December 16, 2015 at 7:00 pm

In fairness to “Bob”, I don’t think the Supreme court has fully sorted out the issue of “freedom of movement”. It’s also debatable as to whether it’s truly Constitutional or not, as it’s inferred from the P&I clause and reinforced through case law, not specific language. (O’Connor references the Article of Confederation in an opinion…which is ironic because they were much better than the Constitution in terms of decentralization)

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Victorious Secret December 17, 2015 at 10:42 am

Indeed. I will not argue that one’s constitutional right to air travel might have been opined in dictum. However, this is certainly distinguishable from the Bill of Rights; to argue otherwise, one risks burying truly valid points.

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Minitrue December 16, 2015 at 9:50 am

The government is nothing more than gears that grind up proles and uses their body parts to fire the mechanisms and machine to do so.

Trey Gowdy is part of the machine, even if he’s an unwilling participant.

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Due Repeated Process December 16, 2015 at 9:52 am

Trey Gowdy believes in due process.

He believes every week another Benghazi investigation is due. This process will continue until after November 2016.

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Freedom of Christian Religion December 16, 2015 at 10:09 am

We need to make sure Sharia Law doesn’t creep into America.

Giving gays equal rights is oppressing me!

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deportdemZwetZbachs December 16, 2015 at 10:37 am

How do think gays would fair in a Sharia Law court?

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deportdemZwetZbachs December 16, 2015 at 10:36 am

A brilliant strategy to defeat evil by the Republicans.

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Using The Dead December 16, 2015 at 11:41 am

What a great way to remember the dead, by using their corpses to promote your guy.

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deportdemZwetZbachs December 16, 2015 at 12:04 pm

Like Planned Parenthood uses it ‘corpses’ to support the Democrat Party?

Planned Parenthood Summary | OpenSecrets

https://www.opensecrets.org/…/lookup2.ph…

Center for Responsive PoliticsPlanned Parenthood … Spending by Cycle; Party Split by Cycle … Begin Cash on Hand, $412,328 … (100% to Democrats, 0% to Republicans), $46,402.

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No Brain Zone December 16, 2015 at 1:17 pm

The ones flaunting pictures of aborted fetuses are you guys too, actually. Too bad you aren’t as eager to pay towards foster care, adoption, and welfare for those children as an alternative to abortion.

idiotwind December 16, 2015 at 10:04 am

its important that we never ever read the entire 2nd amendment, let alone the entire constitution. to that end, any mention of the constitution is should be avoided so enemies within our nation will not be encouraged to read the fucking thing.

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Tunes'n'News December 16, 2015 at 10:06 am

I like it when someone reminds the government about the Constitution. It’s such a rarity these days.

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Pointy Noggin December 16, 2015 at 10:55 am

What about Bengahzi? What a fucking loser this guy is. Please, go back to SC were grandstanding is seen as an actual accomplishment amongst the goobers.

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deportdemZwetZbachs December 16, 2015 at 10:59 am

Exposing evil and crimes takes time.Look how long it took to get the Democrat Party’s favorite traitor Bergdal a court martial.

Hillary’s indictment is coming-just hold on.

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Pointy Noggin December 16, 2015 at 11:07 am

No it’s not, silly. Trey admitted they had nothing and McCarthy admitted the hearings were nothing more than political theater to hurt Hillary’s poll numbers. You guys are lied to so much by your GOP candidates I can see how you would be confused.

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Daniel Boome December 16, 2015 at 11:19 am

Quit bringing up McCarthy. He is irrelevant. He spoke completely out of turn because he knows nothing. The bottom line is that this whole Benghazi boondoggle was created by Obama/Hillary/Samantha Powers with the Operation Zero Footprint directive coordinated through the CIA. If Gowdy “had nothing”, it would only be due to not having access to covert CIA ops.

Wishful Thinking December 16, 2015 at 11:42 am

Every single time I’ve seen you debate someone here you dismiss any damning evidence against your case as “irrelevant” or using some other makeshift excuse. McCarthy is very fucking relevant you nitwit.

Daniel Boome December 16, 2015 at 11:44 am

Then quit bringing up sideshows as evidence for your point of view and I won’t have to dismiss it as irrelevant, you nitwit. What McCarthy said was a mistake, even despite the fact that it was misinterpreted. Bringing him up doesn’t change the facts about Benghazi, not Hillary’s culpability.

Mistakes December 16, 2015 at 11:46 am

It was a mistake because he let slip what every other Republican in the House was thinking in regards to the committees. This thing has been looked over again and again and again, the horse is beyond dead at this point but they keep beating it. What a surprise it will be next year when the sudden interest in Benghazi disappears? Wait, Hillary may win, so maybe it’ll be around for 4-8 more years.

Daniel Boome December 16, 2015 at 11:52 am

All McCarthy said was that the investigation was hurting Hillary in the polls. That’s not even remotely true. There was very little movement in her polling at the time and there is no way to link it to the investigation. So, what McCarthy said wasn’t even true.

You can keep repeating the same stuff over and over about a dead horse being beat and about how everything has been fully hashed out all you want. I will continue to point out that nothing has come to light because there is only so much allowed to be put out, due to the covert nature of the entire operation surrounding Benghazi. Even the interviews with the survivors of the compound attack have to be kept closed door and minutes from those meetings classified. The facts are not on your side. The technicalities and politics of it certainly are, but I couldn’t care less about that. You apparently do, facts be damned.

Actual Quote December 16, 2015 at 12:03 pm

“Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put
together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee, what are her
numbers today?”

I wanted to give the actual quote because it is easy to bury how damning it is when you are just paraphrasing it. His statement boils down to “Everybody thought A, but we put together B, what is A now?”

Doesn’t matter how you read or hear that statement, it comes across as an admission of Republicans setting up committee witch hunts to damage political opponents and gloating about it. He knew what he was saying, he was openly bragging about it. If it didn’t come back to bite him in the ass it may very well have ended up being in his campaign ads for reelection.

McCarthy’s words do not affect the facts behind Benghazi or Hillary’s culpability, but they display that Republican motives are far from pure and their committee members far from objective.

Daniel Boome December 16, 2015 at 12:12 pm

You can interpret them that way, but you could also say that he was merely giving explanation for why her polling numbers had supposedly dipped. I know you’ll never believe that, for the same reason you will probably always believe the Democrats ways are clean and pure as the wind-driven snow.

Even if McCarthy meant it the way you interpreted it to be, the fact is that he had nothing to do with Gowdy’s initiative. He may be trying to take credit for the committee after the fact, because ultimately he has to approve it, but he had nothing to do with it’s genesis. It doesn’t really matter. Even if the motives are pure evil, it STILL does not change the fact that what happened at Benghazi was a disgraceful failure on the part of Hillary and her State Department, the Obama Administration, and the gang of Eight who rubber stamped Operation Zero Footprint (John Boehner,Nancy Pelosi, Mike Rogers, Charles Ruppersberger, Mitch McConnell, Harry Reid, Diane Feinstein and Saxby Chambliss). If anything, McCarthy’s statement provided a nice diversion from that.

Baseless Assumptions December 16, 2015 at 1:15 pm

I believe Hillary is far from clean, but thanks for making an ass of yourself. If you’re going to accuse someone of bias try not showing your own directly before the accusation.

Let me know when your arm gets tired of hand waving, maybe then you will be worth debating.

Daniel Boome December 16, 2015 at 1:27 pm

Blah, blah, blah…you’ve got nothing but deflections now. If you read more carefully, you will notice I specifically noted what my bias is and what yours probably is, with the point being that it doesn’t matter. Trying to make a case about the Benghazi situation based on one statement of one little weasel is just disingenuous. THAT was my only point. Continually bringing it back to that doesn’t make your case. The things you said about the Republicans can easily be said about the Democrats and and any number of their committees and investigations. Coming on here to take juvenile pot shots at the Republicans just means you’re nothing more than a hack. If you really do believe that Hillary isn’t clean, why single out the Republicans?

Baseless Blasted You December 16, 2015 at 1:38 pm

Hey Bloome-ing Idiot! Don’t you get tired of looking like a fool, day after day?

Daniel Boome December 16, 2015 at 1:42 pm

So you’re admitting I’m a fool for arguing with you anonymous idiots? I guess I can agree with that.

Pointy Noggin December 16, 2015 at 11:43 am

Why don’t you provide that info to one of the committees? You seem to have this all figured out. Maybe you have the one piece of the puzzle all these committees have needed to finally get Hillary! Or not ;-)

Daniel Boome December 16, 2015 at 11:46 am

They know damn well that this is the case and it’s why I never supported them moving forward with the hearings. It was inevitable they would end up with egg on their face. I think they may have tried to circle around all the untouchable aspects to see if they could paint the necessary, but whether they will be able to or not remains to be seen. I doubt it.

Sic Semper Tyrannis December 16, 2015 at 1:19 pm

Buddy -roe, Bush threw the rules out, try another century.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis December 16, 2015 at 1:18 pm

LOL !

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Fits Ain't No Republican December 16, 2015 at 2:00 pm

Gee if one didn’t know better one would think Fits was a Republican after this puff piece.

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CorruptionInColumbia December 16, 2015 at 10:11 am

She probably had more occasion in that few seconds to hear about and think about The Constitution, than she ever has in her life prior to this.

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The Colonel (R) December 16, 2015 at 10:17 am

I agree with Gowdy’s position as far as it addresses US citizens – that said, if that terrorist sumbitch is from Jihadistan, he isn’t a US citizen and if his ass ought to be on the “No Fly” list then he should also be on the “No Buy”, “No computer access” and any other deprivation list we can think of. If caught in the US they should go straight to our tropical resort at Club Gitmo.

Gowdy raise another issue that needs addressing – there is no effective manner for a citizen to get redress if they are on the list. The Traveler Redress Inquiry Program is at best a joke and at worst a violation of the Fourth Amendment.

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Weezl December 16, 2015 at 5:49 pm

Colonel, upon information and belief, the process to get off the ” no fly list” is to bring an action in Federal Court which will summarily be dismissed based on forum non convenience and/or subject matter jurisdiction and transferred to the FISA court. Needless to say you will need capable legal counsel and a boat load of money, patience and time.

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shifty henry December 16, 2015 at 9:18 pm

What about no “trains” or “busses”. What about the monorail and rides at Disney World ?

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CorruptionInColumbia December 16, 2015 at 10:22 am

My body!!!!!! I have it back!!!!!
Yeeeehaaawwwwww!!!!!! (while doing naked backflips on my front lawn)

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deportdemZwetZbachs December 16, 2015 at 10:46 am

How do we know it is you?
Test: During the floods in the Columbia area, which city did you falsely allege instituted a curfew? Do you frequent the Huddle House or Waffle House? Which do you hate more,Christianity or Islam?

I will know it the REAL CIC by your answers to these questions.

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CorruptionInColumbia December 16, 2015 at 10:54 am

It wasn’t a city, but Lexington County that I believed to be dragging curfews out unnecessarily, due to encountering several eateries which had signs posted saying they closed very early, “due to the curfew”. Apparently, the curfews ended with the previous night but the restaurants were in possession of erroneous info.

Waffle House

Islam, but not a huge fan of the mainstream Christian church.

With that out of the way, I guess my troll’s lips will now attach themselves to my anus like a bothersome rhoid.

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deportdemZwetZbachs December 16, 2015 at 10:55 am

You passed! It is you.Love the avatar.FYI I was NEVER that ‘troll’ that was/is chasing you around.

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CorruptionInColumbia December 16, 2015 at 10:57 am

In that case, please accept my apologies.

deportdemZwetZbachs December 16, 2015 at 11:00 am

No problem.You are ‘spot on’ more than not.

CorruptionInColumbia December 16, 2015 at 11:01 am

Thank You!

Everybody December 16, 2015 at 11:11 am

Thought you got hacked?
LMFAO!

CorruptionInColumbia December 16, 2015 at 11:23 am

Naaa, there has been some damnfoolery going on with Disqus and Fits for a while, now. I logged on today and my old account, and avatar, magically appeared. Going out to buy a lottery ticket! :-)

shifty henry December 16, 2015 at 9:14 pm

Hmm, about six times this year my account was closed by Disqus which forced me to reset. Anybody know what that is all about?

shifty henry December 16, 2015 at 9:20 pm

4 minutes after my post Disqus jacked and jiggled my posting account for about 30 seconds…..

Everybody December 16, 2015 at 11:10 am

Hi pogo/GrandTango/flip/ Terry W! Finally, quit talking all that lawsuit BS?
That was funny as hell. You so crazy. How long before you delete this disqus profile?

inlet flytrap December 16, 2015 at 11:15 am

Hey Boz.How long before mom gives your allowance so you can buy her a Christmas present this year?

TSIB December 16, 2015 at 10:45 am

Last I looked, ol Pointy Head is part of the federal government. If the no-fly list is so bad (and it is) why the fuck doesn’t he do something about it? Besides putting on a big show for the rubes.

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erneba December 16, 2015 at 10:52 am

When this was first mentioned, my first question was “how does someone get on the “no-fly” list? I could not find an answer anywhere. So it does lead you to to
believe the Obama administration could just arbitrarily put a person on the “no-fly” list and take away their Constitutional right to own and use a gun.

I am glad someone is paying attention to this “Obama short cut” to take away second amendment rights.

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deportdemZwetZbachs December 16, 2015 at 10:54 am

No idea.I was apparently on a “no fly” list in Huntington WV.

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shifty henry December 16, 2015 at 9:12 pm

Were you the pilot?

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Ask George! December 16, 2015 at 11:09 am

Ask GWB, he’s the one who started the No-Fly List. It’s conditions set up by his people that gets one on the list.

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erneba December 16, 2015 at 11:22 am

At this point, I don’t trust Obama to be honest about who is put on it. The no-fly list is probably a good idea, having Obama arbitrarily putting people on it to “backdoor” inhibit someone’s second amendment rights is my problem with it.

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How You Know You're Dumb December 16, 2015 at 11:51 am

“The no-fly list is probably a good idea”

“I don’t trust Obama to be honest about who is put on it.”

If a policy can only be trusted when your guy is in charge, then perhaps it isn’t a policy you should trust at all? Come on, fire up a few synapses, you can do it, draw a logical conclusion!

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deportdemZwetZbachs December 16, 2015 at 12:01 pm

In fairness to ‘erneba’, this pResident is NOT one of ‘us’ and shouldn’t be trusted-unless you are a member of Black Lives Matter an illegal or a supporter of radical Islam.

Shut Up Loser Pogo December 16, 2015 at 12:07 pm

You’re not one of us hard working taxpayers.

deportdemZwetZbachs December 16, 2015 at 12:14 pm

Why do I keep getting all these 1099’s then?

Identity Theft? December 16, 2015 at 1:13 pm

You know that’s a very good question, I wonder why!

Not very much, though December 16, 2015 at 2:25 pm

Being a Shill is a job? Explains the many 1099s.

Goobersmacker December 16, 2015 at 12:18 pm

STFU racist white trash. Go back to shoveling shit where you belong.

erneba December 16, 2015 at 12:04 pm

One more time, George Bush did not tie any gun restrictions to the “no-fly” list. And I have no problem with Obama controlling the no-fly list. I have a problem with Obama controlling the no-fly list and then restricting firearms purchases based on that list.
You are the one that should fire a few synapses.
Before Obama, gun purchases were not compared to the no-fly list, now they are.
Under Bush..no-fly list.. not referenced to gun purchases.,
Under Obama..no-fly list.. referenced to gun purchases.
Anymore questions, and I am going to have to charge you for lessons in logical thinking.

Jim December 19, 2015 at 12:32 pm

Did GWB use the No-Fly List into a No Due Process list for stripping someone of their Natural Right guaranteed by the US Constitution?

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Islamic State December 16, 2015 at 1:37 pm

The Caliphate greatly thanks Crusader Gowdy for enabling our warriors in the Great Satan that is America in the purchase and stockpiling of weapons and ammunition. The Islamic State greatly appreciates the ability to acquire unlimited weapons and ammunition that will be used in the extermination of the Crusaders. Allah Akbar!

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CorruptionInColumbia December 17, 2015 at 8:24 am

In all seriousness, we citizens and aliens who are legally in the US with good intent thank him for standing up for us having the means to protect ourselves from the likes of you. Otherwise, we would be helpless as the citizens of the UK, France, Germany, Sweden, Belgium, and more, who are by law, deprived of that means. Meanwhile, people like the terrorists in Paris don’t seem to have any problem acquiring firearms to include automatic weapons.

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21stconfed(L) December 16, 2015 at 1:58 pm

No fly-list and suddenly you can’t purchase (maybe can be confiscated) firearms???
and Fits doesn’t have a problem with this?

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Lone Ranger December 17, 2015 at 6:15 pm

It was 2015 and South Carolina’s gutless RINO members of the RINO U.S. House were partying well

They’d ALL (except Jeff Duncan) voted for Obama-Door-Mat-Boehner
to blow conservatives to…

This dishonor roll of gutless, lying scumbags included Trey-Sure-I-Gave-Obama-Fast Track-Gowdy to start

Then there was Mick-What’s-In-It-For-ME-Mulvaney who piled on conservatives to play his back-stabbing part

And let’s not leave out Tom-Sure-I’m-A-Flaming-Lib-Rice who’d sell his grandma’s jugular for personal gain

And who can forget Mark-I-Walked-Out-On-My-Wife-And-Four-Sons-Sanford—serial adulterer with no brain

Rounding out this cast of dirtbags is arrogant flag-ripping I-Lie-To-Conservatives-Joe Wilson himself

Doesn’t give a *amn about NOT letting YOU vote on the flag because he IS a RINO Lilliputian elf

So these RINO scum are STILL betting on the come by voting for FELLOW RINO Paul Ryan as well

Let-In-30-MILLION-MORE-Illegals-Ryan…meeting back-door with Obama—telling you to go to…

But then 2016 rolled in with a roaring Tea Party win and all of the above RINOs had to leave town fast

Don’t look now you ingrates but that political fire you smell burning?…the last of your gutless RINO… !!!

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Lone Ranger December 29, 2015 at 6:55 pm

Yo…Trey–we gotcha “due” process after you crawled up RINOs Boehner and Ryan and endorsed amnesty-for-all-Rubio
Better enjoy 2016 because when we hand you your spleen you won’t be up in D.C. and doing all that lobbyist snow !!!

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