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Lee Bright Won’t Filibuster Bill To Remove The Confederate Flag

BUT HE ISN’T GOING TO GO QUIETLY, EITHER … || By FITSNEWS || S.C. Senator Lee Bright says he won’t filibuster a bill to remove the Confederate flag from its current location on the north lawn of the S.C. State House … but that doesn’t mean he’s going to roll…

BUT HE ISN’T GOING TO GO QUIETLY, EITHER …

|| By FITSNEWS || S.C. Senator Lee Bright says he won’t filibuster a bill to remove the Confederate flag from its current location on the north lawn of the S.C. State House … but that doesn’t mean he’s going to roll over on the issue.

The Upstate, S.C. lawmaker – who recently referred to the flag’s proposed removal as a “Stalinist purge” – has been leading the fight to keep the controversial banner up in the aftermath of last month’s horrific, racially motivated church shooting in Charleston, S.C. that left nine black worshippers dead.

There are more than enough votes in the State Senate to lower the flag – even assuming you subscribe to the argument that doing so requires a two-thirds majority (we believe a simple majority would suffice).  That two-thirds majority also means there are enough votes to sit Bright down in the event he stages a filibuster – although doing so would set a precedent for future debate.

Bright apparently isn’t willing to go that far … although we’re told the Upstate lawmaker has “big plans” for the upcoming debate.

Opponents of the flag’s presence on the grounds say they are prepared to deal with multiple amendments from Bright.

Among them?  A proposal to decide the flag’s fate via a constitutional amendment as well as a proposal to replace the current banner with a different version of the Confederate flag (for more on the various banners associated with this debate, click here).

Bright has already announced his referendum plan via Facebook.

“I’m introducing an amendment that would allow South Carolina voters to decide whether or not the Confederate battle flag should fly,” he wrote.  “This flag is a part of our heritage, so the people of this state should have the final say.”

Okay …

Of course there was no referendum in 1961 when the Confederate flag – surrendered by the forces of General Robert E. Lee at Appomattox in 1865 – was temporarily re-raised.  Nor was there a referendum the following year when this temporary provision was extended indefinitely.  Nor was there one in 2000, when a bipartisan, biracial compromise moved the flag from the dome (and from within the S.C. House and State Senate chambers) to its current location.

Why should there be a referendum now?

There shouldn’t be …

The flag is coming down.  As it should.  When it should.

If Bright wishes to hold a statewide referendum to raise it … again …  well, he’s welcome to try.  He’ll never get the two-thirds majority in both chambers that he needs to place such a referendum on the ballot (and polls show such a measure would be unsuccessful, anyway), but hey … we wouldn’t stand in the way of such an effort.

As for Bright’s filibuster?  Well, we’re surprised he decided not to go that route … as that represented his best bet for stopping the flag removal legislation.

Why did he decide against it?  Good question …

We’ll let you know when we know something …

UPDATE: Well, well …

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73 comments

tomstickler July 1, 2015 at 1:41 pm

Blind hog found an acorn. (Applies to filibuster only: void for all other actions)

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9" July 1, 2015 at 1:51 pm Reply
SCBlues July 1, 2015 at 4:22 pm

LOL

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Rocky July 1, 2015 at 1:46 pm

Screw this fat bastard. Take the flag down now. Why is it still up?

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The Colonel July 1, 2015 at 2:02 pm

Small matter of a law that has to be dealt with but other than that…

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Rocky July 1, 2015 at 2:12 pm

I know, but I thought they were going to attach it to the budget thing Nikki was supposed to sign like today or yesterday.

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The Colonel July 1, 2015 at 2:13 pm

They couldn’t, the agenda was already set. It will be taken up shortly.

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The Buzzman July 1, 2015 at 4:23 pm

They will take up taking it down, in other words. Yeah, some people don’t read all that well.

Norman Rocky Bates July 1, 2015 at 2:27 pm

Rocky,

Relax.Go burn an American flag or loot a store or shit in somebody’s front yard.That appears to help you people settle down.

It is coming down.Relax.

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Pogo Advocates Burning Flags July 1, 2015 at 2:29 pm

Why do you keep telling people to burn flags? Do you hate America that much? If you were a patriot you’d be asking them not to.

I think secretly you want people to burn flags, you traitor.

You condoned w/ the flag July 1, 2015 at 2:20 pm

So if taking down the flag stops Christians from being murdered, you are responsible for not saying anything until now. Why did you sit silent, and let those black people be murdered? You are awash in guilt.

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mamatiger92 July 1, 2015 at 2:51 pm

how many times are you going to post this nonsensical garbage, flip?

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guest July 1, 2015 at 2:52 pm

Not flip,bitch.

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flip July 1, 2015 at 2:57 pm

Nope, definitely not me! LMAO!!! LMAO!!!

The Buzzman July 1, 2015 at 4:22 pm

Flip/pogo pretending to be GT.

mamatiger92 July 1, 2015 at 2:59 pm

You certainly have his “charm” & his fondness for paranoid rants.

yep July 1, 2015 at 1:54 pm

“Why did he decide against it? Good question …”

From reading comments like Rocky’s on this subject, his personal safety?

Don’t blame the man one bit.Just like I don’t blame Haley for taking the lead in taking the confederate flag down. When lib/soc don’t get their way they loot and burn. Nikki saved Charleston and South Carolina from a LA,Baltimore or Ferguson x 100, in my opinion.

Flag will come down. Then the lib/soc can start working on the American flag.

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Rocky July 1, 2015 at 1:57 pm

Yep – Haley didn’t take the lead. That’s a bunch of crap. Tom Davis and others took the lead, Haley just jumped in front of it to get herself show to BWM, Volvo and Boeing as doing something about it before the came knocking on her door. We have the votes, now lets get that danged rag down.

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Nikki Haley July 1, 2015 at 2:23 pm

I took up the position because my corporate donors stuck their hand up my skirt and worked my mouth to say I was against it. Now I’m sticking my hand up Pogo’s buttocks to work his mouth.

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TSIB July 1, 2015 at 7:47 pm

Actually none of y’all “took the lead,” your hand was forced by a white supremacist mass murder and a tidal wave of public embarrassment.

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Goobersmacker July 1, 2015 at 2:23 pm

“Then the lib/soc can start working on the American flag.”
Christ, it must suck to be as fucking stupid as you are. Go back to shoveling shit. It’s all white trash like you are good for.

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Like the Confederate Flag July 1, 2015 at 2:24 pm

Flagged as inappropriate, obscene, behind the times, and just plain wrong.

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After all it was you, not me July 1, 2015 at 2:17 pm

Aren’t Sheheen, Haley and this Website responsible for the Charleston Christian Massacre if it’s the flag’s fault? Y’all let the flag fly until those Black people died. You did it. And you are responsible for the deaths because you did nothing.

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The Colonel July 1, 2015 at 2:20 pm

What exactly did you do to prevent it?

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Superman July 1, 2015 at 2:22 pm

Melted his head off with his heat ray vision?

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Turn yourself in July 1, 2015 at 2:25 pm

I don’t think the flag had anything to do with those deaths. You cannot stop a drug-driven mentally-ill fool. And committing a crime that can be deemed racist is a guarantee for infamy. You’d only ignore those Christians if they were white, and the killer was black.
But I don’t care if the flag is there are not. You believe it resulted in death, and you let those people die. You were too coward to demand the flag come down, even though you now say it’s responsible. You are dirty and guilty.

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Willfully Ignorant July 1, 2015 at 2:26 pm

“I don’t think the flag had anything to do with those deaths.”

No, he just did gangsta poses with one because he thought the colors matched his outfit.

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guest July 1, 2015 at 2:31 pm

He also showed you racist socialists what to do with the American Flag.We know it is next.

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Dumb On Purpose July 1, 2015 at 2:32 pm

So the Confederate flag had nothing to do with it even though he had it on his car and posed with it holding a gun, but he doesn’t have an American flag anywhere near him and is somehow telling us we need to burn them?

You aren’t very smart, are you?

yep July 1, 2015 at 2:34 pm

He burn’t an American Flag.

pogo July 1, 2015 at 2:41 pm

I do that all the time though.

Guilty in your compliance July 1, 2015 at 2:57 pm

So you, Haley, Sheheen, FITSNews, and the Democrat Black Caucus, in effect, killed those people for not removing the flag until now. Right? You are saying the flag did it, and you condoned the flag, until now.

The Buzzman July 1, 2015 at 4:27 pm

Actually, he had pics up of him spitting on an American flag and burning it.

The Buzzman July 1, 2015 at 4:26 pm

pogo now down with burning the American flag. What a sick godless traitor commie you are.

The Buzzman July 1, 2015 at 4:25 pm

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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Derp July 1, 2015 at 2:27 pm

This is the dumb illogical crap that floats through Lee Bright’s noggin.

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Don't Forget To Flush July 1, 2015 at 2:28 pm

Every now and then the pressure gets too great and he has to open his mouth to let some of it out.

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mamatiger92 July 1, 2015 at 2:48 pm

“… although we’re told the Upstate lawmaker has “big plans” for the upcoming debate.”

**grabbing popcorn**

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The Buzzman July 1, 2015 at 4:24 pm

Save some for me!!!!

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SCBlues July 1, 2015 at 4:24 pm

Me too!

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davis mcclam July 1, 2015 at 4:17 pm

Since when does two thirds of a corrupt legislature trump the majority vote of the population? There is nothing more powerful in a democracy than majority opinion.

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The Buzzman July 1, 2015 at 4:21 pm

There was no vote to raise it. No vote to take it down. No vote to put a different version in the present monument and raise it. All that has been done so far with it has been by legislative fiat. There was no legitimate reason for any of it. Why should there now be a vote on the issue?

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nitrat July 1, 2015 at 7:14 pm

So there’s no accountability for the politicians at the polls or in the press?

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tomstickler July 1, 2015 at 7:19 pm

Ask David Beasley.

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TroubleBaby July 1, 2015 at 10:30 pm

Just getting that now eh?

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Quietus July 1, 2015 at 7:58 pm

The run up (6 to 18 months depending on when they set it) would be interesting. Protests, signs, protests, KKKlown Rallies, bumper stickers and impassioned speeches from both sides . It would likely be the most passionate election in living memory in this state. It would be fun to watch, I think I might have to side with Bright on this one.

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TroubleBaby July 1, 2015 at 10:31 pm

So are you saying your’e against democracy?

:)

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt July 1, 2015 at 7:28 pm

Except when the majority wants slavery…or to keep women from voting…or to keep gay people on the fringe of society…

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The Buzzman July 1, 2015 at 4:18 pm

Sudden attack of good sense.

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sparklecity July 1, 2015 at 8:25 pm

Ann Coulter could have used some good sense about a week ago………..
But being the stick bitch that she is she couldn’t help herself…”Bless her heart”

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euwe max July 1, 2015 at 9:09 pm

The quality of her meth seems to be falling off.

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Bible Thumper July 1, 2015 at 5:13 pm

Again the National media acknowledges Nikki Haley’s key role in bringing down Confederate flags around the nation. The NY times published 5 Days That Left a Confederate Flag Wavering, and Likely to Fall on June 28. Of course the fifth day refers to Haley’s announcement.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/29/us/how-the-rebellion-against-south-carolinas-confederate-flag-grew.html?_r=0

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RogueElephant July 1, 2015 at 9:00 pm

From what I can gather, being from N.C. , the proper flag is the crescent and palm tree on a red flag. Why don’t they put that one up ? It is historically correct and should not be as in your face as the present flag.

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euwe max July 1, 2015 at 9:09 pm

If that’a a gorget, why is it in the sky with a star, at an angle – on a dark background, like the moon?

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Bible Thumper July 1, 2015 at 11:28 pm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_South_Carolina
He’s talking about the red flag as shown in link, which is a cresent. It celebrates Sucession. Never seen it before in my life.
Note the liberty flag shown.

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euwe max July 1, 2015 at 11:36 pm

oh yes… I can see the gorget in that flag.

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Bible Thumper July 1, 2015 at 11:44 pm

We need a vexillologist to settle this, but since that is not a core function of government. ….

TroubleBaby July 2, 2015 at 9:59 am

The whole gorget argument seems strange to me because in each flag I’ve seen so far the orientation doesn’t seem to reflect how a gorget is worn.

euwe max July 2, 2015 at 3:19 pm

I know, right?

Rob C July 2, 2015 at 11:05 am

They should just put up a red flag with a gold hammer and sickle because the USA is sure starting to look like the old Soviet Union.

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Santiago Ledbetter July 2, 2015 at 10:52 pm

For a significant portion of the population, the flag is a powerful symbol of a period of American history when their ancestors were property. But hey, thanks for playing!

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True Believer July 1, 2015 at 9:46 pm

It’s not the flag’s fault that innocent people were killed. Yes, he used it as a prop but the flag didn’t kill those people just like the gun didn’t kill them. This EVIL person killed those people. There is a lot of evil in this world today and the evil people do not want us to come together against the evil they want us separated and fighting each other over unimportant things instead of standing together to fight the real problems. Read the Bible. We are in the end times. Prophecies are coming true more and more every day. PEOPLE GET READY!!! JESUS IS COMING!!!!

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Striver July 2, 2015 at 8:43 am

Good. I’ve always thought it would be interesting to meet him and discuss how far “true believers” have strayed from his teachings.

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Rob July 1, 2015 at 10:28 pm

This guy is such a knucklehead. I am ashamed to say he represents my county.

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James July 1, 2015 at 11:11 pm

The thing about this is all this in the closet lawmakers who supported the flag based on their constitutes are now having to break those promises to keep the flag where it is. We are going to finally get some new lawmakers after the dust settles and those backers vote their asses out for reneging on their promise to keep the flag where it is…

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The Buzzman July 2, 2015 at 2:09 am

Meanwhile, SLED is investigating threats directed at SC legislators.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/2015/06/18/sen-darrell-jackson-that-could-have-been-me/28947353/

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The Buzzed FART July 2, 2015 at 7:48 am

Rice’s threats extended to the social media realm, where Myrtle Beach activist William H. “Buz” Martin received the same messages promising lawsuits and the involvement of federal law enforcement.

“(I) never said anything like what you are writing about me,” Rice wrote in a message to Martin. “Your posts are defamatory. You need to remove your posts about me and apologize for harassing me. I have contacted the sergeant of arms at the Capitol and asked them to investigate. If you do not remove the posts and/or continue to lie about me, I will hire a lawyer.”

Read more at https://www.fitsnews.com/2013/03/10/congressmans-wife-threatens-reporter-activist/#QbGYT8cbxoYsXW6b.99

They finally getting around to you?

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truthmonger July 2, 2015 at 8:18 am

Sick Willie. Substantial difference between the battle flag and the actual CSA flag. Not that you’re capable of understanding the difference.

And the “flag haters”? Generally far more intolerant of conflicting viewpoints than flag supporters… and far more prone to violence and criminal acts.

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GaryJR July 2, 2015 at 9:12 am

It does not even matter. Traveling around I am seeing people putting up these flags as big as their houses.

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southmauldin July 2, 2015 at 9:42 am

And they have the right o do so on private property, and I want them to have that opportunity. But the State House is public property, and I don’t want a divisive, racist symbol flying over it. And now I see Senator Shithead is now fundraising using flag stickers to raise money for his campaign. If could only use that campaign money to pay all his personal debts, then he would singlehandedly boost the GDP of Roebuck by 50%.

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Rob C July 2, 2015 at 10:52 am

Bright knows that voting to remove the flag will be political suicide for anyone in the SC statehouse, but voting for his referendum to let the SC voters decide gives them a way out. They will vote for the referendum so they can tell opponents of the flag “we have addressed the flag issue”. Bright knows SC voters will NEVER vote to remove the Confederate flag because polls show that six in 10 South Carolinians support flying the flag, and that includes 27% of the African American population in SC, many of whom had ancestors who fought for the Confederacy.

Contrary to popular belief there were more black soldiers in the CSA Army than the US Army (which only belatedly allowed blacks to serve in the Civil War in segregated units) The CSA army was fully integrated from 1861 on with blacks serving alongside whites at the first battle of Manassas. There is a very complicated history down in SC that the out of towners who want this flag removed don’t understand. When the vast majority of the white population, and more than a quarter of the black population in SC still supports flying the Confederate flag on the grounds of the SC statehouse, that flag is not going anywhere, I don’t care how bad the Indian Sikh immigrant governor, the NAACP, carpet baggers from up north, and the liberal elites in the MSM want it removed.

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Lunelle Siegel July 4, 2015 at 11:16 am

Why does the NAACP and their lackeys GET TO DEFINE A HISTORICAL AMERICAN FLAG?

TELL THE SC LEGISLATURE NOT TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF CERTAIN PEOPLE.

TAKE BACK OUR FLAG!!!!
PLEASE SIGN THIS PEITITION:
https://www.change.org/p/south-carolina-state-house-south-carolina-state-senate-south-carolina-governor-demand-the-naacp-rescind-their-odious-blight-on-the-universe-resolution-before-any-debate-on-removing-the-sc-confederate-veterans-memorial-flag

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