Nikki Haley’s Curious “Conversion” On Taxes

FOUR YEARS LATER, SOUTH CAROLINA’S “TEA PARTY” GOVERNOR TRIES TO FIND FISCAL RELIGION  || By FITSNEWS || Give Nikki Haley credit … the girl can spin. Her recently unveiled tax swap plan is pure fiscal fantasy (and the tax “cut” component of it is far too little, too late), but the…


|| By FITSNEWS || Give Nikki Haley credit … the girl can spin.

Her recently unveiled tax swap plan is pure fiscal fantasy (and the tax “cut” component of it is far too little, too late), but the second-term “Republican” has masterfully framed the debate in South Carolina as “I want to cut your taxes, they want to raise them.”

“They,” of course, representing the “Republican-controlled” S.C. General Assembly.

Never mind that this is the same governor who less than a year ago wanted to cut your taxes by a measly $29 … and who seven months ago vetoed less than one tenth of one percent of the state’s record-setting $25 billion budget.  And who seven months ago signed the authorization for local governments to raise taxes by $1.6 billion …

Having not lifted a finger in four years to slow the growth of state government (in fact, having done everything within her power to encourage it), Haley is all of a sudden making the case for devoting surplus revenues back to taxpayers.

Well, well …

Sending surplus funds back to taxpayers is something this website – and conservative state lawmakers like S.C. Senator Tom Davis – have been advocating for years.

“SC has averaged over $250 million in surplus over the last (five) years,” Haley wrote this week, urging lawmakers to “quit spending (surpluses) away.”

We’re not so sure about Haley’s numbers but we agree lawmakers shouldn’t be spending surpluses.  In fact we said so … five years ago.  In embracing Davis’ 2010 taxpayer rebate fund, we wrote “the importance of creating such a fund cannot be overstated.”  In fact we didn’t want to limit the rebates to surpluses … we wanted to rebate government savings to taxpayers as well.

“In addition to any annual surpluses, such a fund could also become the destination of choice for other government savings and efficiencies,” we wrote.  “No longer would agency ‘savings’ be automatically routed back into government, lawmakers would have the option of putting the money into the rebate fund.”

Did Haley and her “Republican” allies agree?  Hell no.  They were too busy spending all that surplus money like drunken sailors (blowing it on stuff other than fixing our roads).

In fact last year Haley put her anemic $29 “Ci Ci’s pizza” tax cut at the tail end of a wish list of spending projects … meaning it was only to be enacted once all the government pork had been doled out.

And now we’re supposed to take her at her word when she argues for surpluses to be returned?

We’re not buying it … nor should you.  If for no other reason than Haley’s big income tax cut will have to be enacted every single year – and will only slice 0.2 percent off of the state’s top marginal rate in 2016.

By contrast, S.C. Sen. Katrina Shealy‘s bold income tax elimination plan would chop 1.4 percent off of the top 7 percent rate … and best of all, won’t raise your gas tax in the process.

Don’t get us wrong: We’re glad Haley is at long last acknowledging that state government is too big – and that your taxes can be cut.  But her curious conversion is four years too late.  And includes a gas tax hike South Carolinians simply cannot afford.


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Small Violin January 24, 2015 at 1:28 pm

Whatever. You re-elected her. She was horrible in 2014 and guess what morons? She’s going to get worse in 2015. That 49th in education really shows.

GrandTango January 24, 2015 at 6:23 pm

Cliché much???…
Also: When the Democrats are so F*#king miserable at leading…all you have to do is put an R by your name to win…I’d say that makes you a F*@king Moron…

Small Violin January 24, 2015 at 8:03 pm

Glad you’re happy with her. Ignorance is truly bliss, so SC must be nirvana.

Saluda Rapids January 24, 2015 at 11:32 pm

I see. You noted your “blog” was developed just to elect “your” Republican candidates. So if all have to do is put an R by your name to win, your “blog” did absolutely nothing (except confirm you are more out of touch with reality than we already thought). Making you the king of all Morons. And I just slapped the piss out of you!

GrandTango January 25, 2015 at 6:30 am

Your obsession is to the point of one being possessed. And are you Nitrate???…LMAO…

Tell me about it January 24, 2015 at 7:58 pm

Yeah. She looks to be more dangerous/irresponsible that the first term. We knew that she would screw over those who disagree with her (i.e liberals). Now, it seems that she will shit on her supporters and not care one way or the other. This will be a long four years. But, you’re right we put her back in there, by either voting, or not voting.

Farley Chickson January 25, 2015 at 8:58 am

liberals? No such thing as ‘liberals’ anymore. Liberals are now defined as ‘socialists’ on fiscal issues and ‘perverts’ on social issues.

Fried Chickson January 25, 2015 at 9:04 am

Better than being defined as a backward ass, bigot; like SC repubs.

Chickson Shit January 25, 2015 at 9:18 am

Don’t forget the unborn, Flippy. And the super secret Muslim nazi communist Obola!

GrandTango January 25, 2015 at 9:36 am

That’s right, Fli…..I mean Farley. These dumb@$$ liberal baby killers can’t stand that us and Haley are putting the smack down on all the progressive perverts. Me and Fli…dang it….Farley will oil up and slap down every liberal that comes our way. LOL

9" January 25, 2015 at 12:16 pm


GrandTango January 25, 2015 at 12:54 pm


9" January 25, 2015 at 12:08 pm


Farley Chickson January 25, 2015 at 8:53 am

Damn right we did. A job creating machine that fights for traditional marriage and for the unborn.
Education? Liberals have destroyed public schools, not Haley.

Fried Chickson January 25, 2015 at 9:08 am

Ah, one of the willfully gullible rubes who keeps this fraud in office. Education? Why bother. Might, dipshit?

Disqus January 25, 2015 at 9:26 am

Flip, a screen name generating machine. Farley Chickson he created just for this article. See, he specializes ;-)

9" January 25, 2015 at 12:13 pm


aikencounty January 24, 2015 at 1:49 pm

How can disagree with NIMRATA?
She says she is an “accountcunt”!

Timmy January 24, 2015 at 1:52 pm

“Having not lifted a finger in four years to slow the growth of state government (in fact, having done everything within her power to encourage it)”

of course she didn’t, she needed to re-elected…any sane person realizes that a massive tax cut would have decimated education and other services and left the middle class pissed that their 1st graders class now had 40 kids in it, a frustration they would have expressed at the ballot box.

“Haley is all of a sudden making the case for devoting surplus revenues back to taxpayers.”

of course, cause now she needs to get her propaganda on point so she can fool the voters of this state or the county to elect her to a federal post.

Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 10:56 am

Excellent analysis. The irony is this: The horror that she had been would have been much worse, had she hewed close to the Sanford line on spending. Smart as Will is in many ways, his own devotion to that line keeps him from seeing it for the unworkable ideal that it is.

a face in the crowd January 24, 2015 at 2:10 pm

And I noticed in The State that she is insisting state workers stay off social media. Of course, she is exempt from that policy. What an idiot.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 3:37 pm

I guess state workers have more to hide? If that is true, I consider it an infringement on their Freedom Of Speech. We have Governors and Presidents, not Kings and Queens. If I were a state worker I might be inclined to challenge that “insistence.”

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 3:40 pm

They must stay off only during work and on state computers.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 3:42 pm

That makes sense, I wouldn’t want to hire employees who spent their day on social media.

James January 25, 2015 at 8:04 am

So why did you hire Haley back then?

Jimmy January 25, 2015 at 8:40 am

I wonder if these rules apply to Curtis Loftis??

okay January 24, 2015 at 2:13 pm

Problem with Shealy’s plan and Nikki’s plan is revenue. We’re already unable to fix our damn roads with what we’ve got, and to say DOT just needs to do more with less is complete fantasyland. It’ll take a lot more than that. Can’t have it both ways. Govt has to have money if you want roads and bridges that aren’t a complete embarrassment.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 3:28 pm

Don’t worry, regardless of whose “tax reduction” plan is adopted, they will increase taxes in another area. Love the idea, but it simply isn’t going to happen: a reduction in taxes that does not increase taxes in other areas (I.e. many are just drooling all over themselves trying to think of ways to raise property taxes and sales taxes).

Lee Padgett January 24, 2015 at 2:29 pm

Hello. Can we say Romney/Haley 2016. There can be no other reason for her turning her back on big Gubment.

Farley Chickson January 25, 2015 at 9:07 am

Like Hillary? Oh wait, she ain’t turned her back on big ‘Gubment’.

GrandTango January 24, 2015 at 2:30 pm

FITS supports Gary Johnson, who is a TAX-us-to-Breathe Global Warming FLAT EARTHER….So STFU about hypocrisy.

Fox And Friends January 24, 2015 at 4:27 pm

We wouldn’t you to go without air, would we?

Don't Need No Science January 24, 2015 at 4:45 pm

Like the big corporate polluters care about his air…

Smirks January 24, 2015 at 7:05 pm

TAX-us-to-Breathe Global Warming FLAT EARTHER

He accepts global warming but is pretty clear about not standing for cap-and-trade. Not sure what the flat earth nonsense comes from, wasn’t that what morons like you spouted centuries ago? So I’m not sure how you could be any more wrong here, other than that I’m sure you’ll give it your best to outdo yourself.

That being said, Johnson believes the “free market” will solve environmental problems, which is pretty laughable. The only reason America doesn’t suffer from the shit China does is (1) the EPA making leaps and bounds in environmental protections over the last several decades, and (2) because a lot of highly-polluting industries moved overseas to China and other countries. And, of course, China’s gubmint doesn’t give a fuck about pollution for the most part and, of course, the free market doesn’t either as it is very unprofitable to properly dispose of chemicals when there’s a perfectly good river to dump them into. So, of course, air and water pollution is ridiculously bad, to the point where other neighboring countries suffer consequences of something they themselves are actually being responsible about.

But I’m sure some brave libertarian/ancap will show me the errors of my ways for thinking that the free market is inherently imperfect and requires constant correction by outside forces to prevent it from turning the world into one giant hellhole.

GrandTango January 25, 2015 at 6:28 am

The free market has ALREADY solved environmental problems…Earners and contributors have and will SOLVE every challenge before us…the government does NOTHING but F*#k it up, and rob us blind in the process (See Obama)….

Pipeline This! January 25, 2015 at 11:53 am

Like the oil spill in the Yellowstone River?

GrandTango January 25, 2015 at 12:33 pm

Any spill in my LIFETIME has been cleaned up by the responsible spiller, and in a short time, the environment has been restored completely…even though LIARS like Obama claim it takes 1,000 years…

NO ONE has cleaned up the TOTAL F*#king Mess Obama is…you’ve just gotten worse and worse…

Pipeline This! January 25, 2015 at 12:56 pm

Millions have been rewarded to fracking mishaps, “clean” coal spills (see Tenn.), and now families near that river can’t drink the fucking water? the question should be, “Why are we allowing these unsafe measures in the first place?”

GrandTango January 25, 2015 at 1:03 pm

The reason no one respects or listens to you F*#king imbeciles…is that you have been caught lying, and claiming total disaster..over and over…

Working Americans have Cleaned up the Messes, at our own expense. The government has done nothing, but make it harder…. And you do nothing but B!*ch and complain, and waste the money you extort to stop pollution on your political special interests…

You a liar, a waster and corrupt. STFU, no one buys your Bull-S#!t…except people as stupid as you…

Dead Fish January 25, 2015 at 1:11 pm

You’re so right…

No Biggie January 25, 2015 at 1:22 pm

One year after BP
dead birds: 6,147
dead sea turtles: 613
Dead Sea mammals: 157

But, fuck it, right?

GrandTango January 25, 2015 at 2:06 pm

It’s more pristine now that it was before …And it was an accident….and those wildlife populations are more numerous now than they were before.. I thank BP for being responsible…

On the other hand: All of Obama’s numbers went BAD. People – not dumb animals – are SUFFERING miserably…and it just gets worse…Obama and the Democrat Party have done NOTHING to clean up their mess…

Lies! and the Lying Liars January 25, 2015 at 4:13 pm

A Bald Faced,Unmitigated Lie!

GrandTango January 25, 2015 at 7:23 pm

BullS#!t….You have to KILL US industry in order to Feed paranoia…

Attacking good, working people, w/ your ignorant claims is how you feed liberal GREED, and maintain your power…

American industry has CLEANED up pollution…meanwhile you and Obama Bash us…and let China Ruin the planet..because the Chinese tell you to Cram it up your @$$…

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 3:20 pm

After reading the article and comments, I just have one thing to say. Come on y’all. Don’t be haters.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 3:43 pm

Interesting article on the topic:

And the Bible goes Thud January 24, 2015 at 6:20 pm


She’s a liar

Said she was AGAINST the gas tax increase period when she was running for reelection.There were no qualifications.She was AGAINST it ,period.

Now she’s for it .

Go thump your Bible on that one.

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 7:09 pm

Haley had her fingers crossed.

snickering January 24, 2015 at 7:29 pm

As long as she keeps her legs crossed too.

Former Haley Suporter January 24, 2015 at 3:26 pm

You can BET her, so called, NEW CONSERVATISM has nothing to do with being a true and real, in the flesh, conservative. Haley is a fake, always has been, always will be.
She was a Sikh; but, found religion, as a Methodist for her political expediency!
Her new conservative awakening is, no less,, the same! Her conversion has to do with 2016 and her desire to be seen a true conservative by the Republican nominee! You can bet she is praying to her SIKH God Her CONVERSION has nothing to do with for a place on the ticket, or appointment to the next President’s Cabinet. Her conversion has nothing to do with core beliefs, nor personal philosophy! Just pure self serving self aggrandizement!

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 3:31 pm

And how is that different than the majority of politicians? The only people who would want that job is someone seeking power or favors that impact their bottom line, with a very few good guys in the mix.

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 3:31 pm

“Haley is a fake”
So what? If I get the tax cut?
She could fake orgasams for all I care.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 3:32 pm


Farley Chickson January 25, 2015 at 9:04 am

Liar.You never supported Haley.

Flip Chickson January 25, 2015 at 9:12 am

Flip, is that you? Another new handle? How do you keep up with all of them?

Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 11:09 am

How do you know that? I did, and now I don’t. I was all about electing Haley when she ran for her first term. Which gives the lie to the crap you and GT spout about me never supporting a politician who won. Support her I did. Vote or her I did. Regret hell out of both, I most definitely do.

Andy January 24, 2015 at 3:40 pm

Haley: State Employees I am going to show all of you who voted against me. From now on you will all have limited bathroom breaks, no social media and when you retire from the state you will work where I tell you. Sincerely your Dear Leader Haley.

nitrat January 25, 2015 at 8:50 am

Use your smart phone, son. Who is saying you can’t do that?
Just don’t tie up state owned equipment and internet service.
The rules have been there about the use of state equipment for personal use for decades before anyone had a computer on their desk.

Farley Chickson January 25, 2015 at 9:01 am

Smirks does it all day?

Flip Flop January 25, 2015 at 9:20 am

Look! Flip is back. Under new management. Just kidding, same dumb fucker…different screen name. Who will he be next week? The suspense isn’t killing anyone.

Farley Chickson January 25, 2015 at 10:53 am

lol Boz. Check out my twitter account gang. Up and running and do we some have shit ready to hit the ‘fan’? YES WE CAN!!!!

Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 11:21 am

Looks like I joined Just Unfollow in the nick of time. I will follow you, just so I can unfollow.

Farley Chickson January 25, 2015 at 11:43 am

Thanks Boz. :-)

Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 11:30 am

One tweet. Four followers. Really making a mark there, pogo. A skid mark, that is.

Smirks January 26, 2015 at 9:24 am

“Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!”

On the bright side, at least we know pogo changes their sock regularly.

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 3:46 pm

The people complaining about no social media DURING WORK or ON STATE EQUIPMENT must be Gen-Xers. Maybe the state can give you a participation trophy for showing up for work.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 3:49 pm

I need to read the article, but I agree IF it state equipment and during work hours (excepting any breaks and personal devices) then employees should not be “working” on social media sites unless it is business related and approved.

No Job I Ever Had January 24, 2015 at 3:58 pm

Who the fuck spends every second at work, working?

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 4:00 pm

Not Gen-Xers.

No Job I Ever Had January 24, 2015 at 4:25 pm

I’m asking who does, not who doesn’t.

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 4:38 pm

At my job they were emailing links to funny Y-tube videos. Had to put a stop to it. Coffee breaks and water cooler talk often increases productivity, but I’ve seen a lot of wasted time on computers and really stupid stuff. Midevil witchcraft war video games during work.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 4:40 pm

At one of my jobs guys spent too much time on porn sites and were eventually dismissed after a number of warnings and this was at least a decade ago.

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 4:49 pm

In my entire life I’ve spent less than 15 minutes on porn sites. That was more the enough for me. Never again.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 4:55 pm

I think many men are drawn to that, but need to do that on their time, not company dime :)

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 5:17 pm

A woman performing such intimate acts for a camera makes me sad.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 5:34 pm

I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about what they do, nor people who view those sites as long as they are consenting adults, but I don’t think the work place is the place for that. I don’t care what someone does with their personal life as long as it doesn’t infringe upon my rights. A fiscal conservate and social moderate.

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 5:46 pm

As for the government’s role, I agree. You can shelter yourself from cultural pollution, unlike air pollution, but it’s difficult. There is a place for being a culture critic, but not a culture czar.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 6:01 pm

Yep, it is all about government role to me. I can’t, nor want, to tell someone how to live their life. I cancan, however, get my panties in a bunch when government wastes my money or makes an effort to tell me how to live my personal life via some legislation that someone drafted with personal bias. That isn’t the topic here, but thanks for listening :)

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 4:43 pm

I did not unless it was for business purposes, I.e. research, marketing and so on, which my job required solutions.

No Job I Ever Had January 24, 2015 at 4:50 pm

Yeah, I read that the first time. Us little people need to find out if we need to pick up our kids due to bad weather.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 4:54 pm

I seriously need to search this article. I cannot fathom it would prevent you from receiving calls during inclement weather to pick up your kids. Truth is, if we get a snowflake in SC that is reason enough to cancel work for most government employees IMHO. Try a better argument.

No Job I ever Had January 24, 2015 at 5:00 pm

Weeks ago I had to find out how late the school was going to be delayed due to the freezing weather…anyway, I can tell you need to have the last word, so get to it…

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 5:04 pm

And somehow facebook, twitter and Instagram affected your ability to determine that? I admittedly don’t know everything on the topic, but based on what little reading I did on the topic, I can’t understand the big fuss.

You got Gen X kids? January 24, 2015 at 10:57 pm

What happened, you rejected by your kids or something?

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 4:02 pm

I did during my career years. I also used the internet official business, but not social media sites. I listen to business owners complain about unproductive employees b/c they spend too much time on facebook or repeated and lengthy use of cell phones that are not job related. Time is money.

No Job I Ever Had January 24, 2015 at 4:21 pm

What’s the difference in sending social media to message to your spouse, daycare center, doctor, making vet appointments, and the like, but spending and wasting time and resources via phone hoping they’ll pick it up? Hell, ordering lunch for take out on a computer is faster than calling and being put on hold.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 4:38 pm

I guess it depends on on what you call social media and how it is used. For example, I seriously doubt you post on your doctors facebook page asking about an appointment, highly unlikely you even send an email, though I am familiar with “cosmetic” appointments made online. If you choose to order your food online, use your cellphone during break to call ahead. It isn’t that difficult. I can remember jobs I have worked that I was so busy I didn’t have time for a pee break and ended up at the doctor office for holding it too long and you are going to complain about not being able to use social media?

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 5:01 pm

Just read an article OT, it is not limited to, but aimed at Facebook, Instagram and twitter. Now tell me how that infringes on your rights while getting paid to do a job?

Argue Much? January 24, 2015 at 5:04 pm

Some schools, weather sites, etc use Facebook…

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 5:10 pm

They also use other sources. It is a valid debate the needs attn. but the core problem is too many people abuse social media when working. How much does that cost taxpayers and what is solution?

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 5:11 pm

Taxpayers in the case of government employees and businesses in case of private/public business. Offer a better solution.

Just Sayin' January 24, 2015 at 5:17 pm

Yes, there can be abuses, but more and more doctors, schools, and businesses are using social media. I have spent many hours in the past along with 100 other people calling my school at the same time wanting the same answer.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 5:20 pm

I don’t disagree they are, but what is the solution?

Just Sayin' January 24, 2015 at 5:27 pm

Well, just because it’s Facebook doesn’t necessarily mean someone’s jerkng around. Having a zero FB policy is just too rigid. Our office’s IT doesn’t allow certain sites to be accessed already, and for good reason, mostly sercurity, but it’s too narrowly defined by Haley’s position.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 9:47 pm

It sounds like a draft when I read it, so maybe it to s narrowly defined.

Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 11:06 am

Holy fucking shit! This is getting more tedious than the endless arguments between me and Flippy/pogo.

Trixie January 25, 2015 at 11:31 pm

Oh Buz, my friend, try not to get your undies in a bunch. You and I both know tedious, been there done with that. I think you are a great instigator of tedious, think family aka GOP chair. You got your own game, damn you rock at it too! Yours truly, Trixie :)

Buz Martin January 26, 2015 at 8:56 am

Thanks. JB and I are friends, but very distant kin. We were friends before I knew we were related. I may be closer kin to RR, but I never liked him. RW, well he’s my bud, but we were by no means seeing eye to eye when all that went down. All I did, really, was keep a close eye on who was and who was not qualified to vote, of the EC peeps. In other words, who was and was not even qualified to be EC based on residence. Pie simple, once he was eliminated. But this is all history. I’m not playing the game now. I just comment, and almost never on local or county issues.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 5:16 pm

It is also noteworthy that you can subscribe to most weather and school sites with updates delivered to in box and the schools of the past call or allow children to call. Not trying to be a hard ass, but it is those who abuse the system taking away your leeway.

Carol January 24, 2015 at 3:50 pm

Yeah its OK for Haley and her staff to do it though cause shes special. …Haha

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 3:53 pm

No, not because she is so special, but part of her job is keeping the people informed. May not agree with all the information, but the people want to be in contact with Representatives and social media works.

Robert January 24, 2015 at 3:54 pm

Posting pics of family all day is working? Really bullshit!

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 3:58 pm

She could crap cubic turds, and you would complain that they don’t float.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 4:12 pm

<——– dying laughing! Great one.

shifty henry January 24, 2015 at 4:24 pm

(Memo to Self) —— file and save under “Quips, Insults & Put-Downs”

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 4:30 pm

Something tells me you already have a huge memory bank of “Quips, Insults & Put Downs”. Ha! :)

shifty henry January 24, 2015 at 5:24 pm

Thanks, I do have a lot of books on various types of humorous stories, jokes, rhymes, riddles, word games, various toasts and other stuff. One of my books has 10,000 items, and some of the entries probably go back to mid-1800’s — my great-granddaddies were laughing at those.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 4:11 pm

It is marketing and every successful business I know uses marketing. I want to see my Representatives from Governor on down, but I don’t want to drive to Columbia every time I need/want to see them or ask a question. I am guessing have probably never excelled at a job in your life due to not taking it serious and the impact your play time has on both your and their bottom line, unless you work in marketing or sales.

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 3:54 pm

Read the article. Not for personal use. The state has Facebook and Twitter for state business. No where does it say that it doesn’t apply to her or her staff.

Sharon January 25, 2015 at 8:08 am

So Haley calling out Senator Shealy on her state computer was OK then? Thats state business right?

nitrat January 25, 2015 at 8:16 am

Bible Thumper January 25, 2015 at 8:28 am

It is not personal. Who said it was a state computer?

Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 11:00 am

Oh please.

Bible Thumper January 25, 2015 at 11:07 am

Oh please. If you don’t know the difference between policy makers debating policy, which is what we pay them to do, and state employees goofing off at work, then God help us all.

Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 11:16 am

It wasn’t a debate as much as it was the governor using government equipment to slam a critic. And when Pierson and Godfrey tweet all that crap they do about her every move, and gush about her endlessly — are they carrying out a core function of state government, or are they doing advance campaign work for whatever the hell she is going for on the national level? Should taxpayers subsidize the next Haley For Whatever campaign?

Bible Thumper January 25, 2015 at 12:10 pm

Politicians slam each other on the job in the general assembly. Her staffs’ job is to promote her policies. Obama’s staff does it to. They’re suppose to.

She lives in a government house. I suppose she shouldn’t use it for personal use. Speculate on her use of government property. Speculate on her seeking a federal job or working on her next campaign. I’m sure every office seeker before has. We expect them to. Obama and Kennedy did so from the Senate.
Everyone who has any power or influence, that has speculated against her has ruined their careers. Larry Koon, most powerful member of the house underestimated her. His career was finished. Bauer and Barrett operatives speculated adultery. Their careers are finished. Jake Knotts speculated on her faith. He is finished. John Rainey thought he was a power broker, gatekeeper to the Governorship, speculated about her ethics. He is finished. Shealy should take notice.

Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 12:43 pm

So. You’re saying she’s the Queenfish.

Bible Thumper January 25, 2015 at 12:54 pm

Matriarch of the elephant herd, Queen bee, Mama grizzly.

Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 12:58 pm


Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 12:59 pm

I laugh when people call her an idiot.

Smirks January 24, 2015 at 6:28 pm

The people complaining about no social media DURING WORK or ON STATE EQUIPMENT must be Gen-Xers.

If only. Plenty of middle-aged schmucks on social media during work hours, and I work in the private sector.

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 6:34 pm

Key word. Complain
The “middle-aged schmucks” don’t think “personal computer recreation” is a workplace right.

Smirks January 24, 2015 at 6:50 pm


A company would have to be pretty hard-assed to constantly crack the whip at employees browsing at work. It’s something a vast number of people are guilty of to some extent, and most employers give a small amount of leeway with it. If it isn’t social media it’s gun nut stuff, news, politics, or whatever else tickles their fancy. If it affects your work performance you’ll likely get yourself fired eventually anyways.

I make sure my crap gets done, whatever someone else wants to do I don’t really make my business.

Trixie January 24, 2015 at 10:47 pm

Really? Hardass to complain what their employees do during work hours? Geeez, no wonder SC has high unemployment and low wages. Solution?

Smirks January 26, 2015 at 9:53 am

Hardass to complain what their employees do during work hours?

Are they going to break up the two dudes shooting the shit at the water cooler? Or tell the smokers they only get two smoke breaks a day? Or ban employees from bringing cell phones? Or raise hell at the girl that clocks in after lunch and immediately takes a bathroom break? I’m sure they could do all that too. Employers can be as hard-assed as they want to be, most aren’t this hard-assed because it makes for a crappy work environment, which affects productivity too.

Farley Chickson January 25, 2015 at 9:03 am

You post on FITS 8-5 EVERY fucking day…how in the hell does your ‘shit’ get done?

BBQ Chickson January 25, 2015 at 9:11 am

Says another unemployed douche…

Disqus January 25, 2015 at 9:22 am

You post as 10 different people a week. When do you have time for basketball and pizza with GT?

Gotz No Job January 25, 2015 at 11:44 am

You and Tango post 24/7…

Smirks January 26, 2015 at 9:25 am

You post on FITS 8-5 EVERY fucking day…how in the hell does your ‘shit’ get done?

9" January 24, 2015 at 5:21 pm

She’s the worst thing that’s ever happened to,SC.She has no conscience,empathy or compassion,which makes her a sociopath,and that equates to evil,in the true sense of the word.That might sound like hyperbole,but when you consider ‘the banality of evil’,she scares me in a way that has nothing to do with politics.I’ve met serial killers(behind bars),I’d trust before I would Haley.

Smirks January 24, 2015 at 6:26 pm

She’s the worst thing that’s ever happened to,SC.

I don’t know, Sanford was pretty bad too…

9" January 24, 2015 at 7:06 pm

That’s true,but I think Haley has a sense of guile,Sanford could never develop.He’s too narcissistic and self-involved,and is as prone to destroying himself as anyone else,but both of them have done more damage to,SC as any governors in this state’s history..

Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 10:52 am

If you don’t count Pitchfork Ben Tillman.

nitrat January 25, 2015 at 8:42 am

Well, it really is the Sanford/Haley administration and we are 12 years in.
The question is whether we will ever recover.

Farley Chickson January 25, 2015 at 8:48 am

Get over it-you fuckers lost.South Carolina is a great place to live under the leadership of Sanford/Haley.

Haley's Chickson January 25, 2015 at 9:16 am

Ah Flippy, how much lamer can you get? I guess, wait…and we’ll find out?

SC Roads January 25, 2015 at 11:40 am

Who’s your dope man?

SC Government Is Your Enemy? January 24, 2015 at 6:04 pm

I drove I-26 today … .Sheeshus!!! — bridges and the pavement/concrete is in VERY SERIOUS need of repair in many places. Between cracks and pot holes, I am ashamed of state government. The 526 Extension will now cost over ONE BILLION DOLLARS, and the State Infrastructure bank has frozen over half a billion dollars for that corrupt boondoggle. I swear to God, dozens of lawmakers and the special interest land developers all need to be THROWN IN PRISON!! Haley is right there in the midst of all the corruption and fleecing of WE THE PEOPLE. It will not stop until the citizens of South Carolina rise up and get right in their fucking faces.

nitrat January 25, 2015 at 8:10 am

Every legislator who ever signed Grover Norquist’s no-new-taxes pledge needs to be thrown in prison…since their pledge to him has been superseding their oaths of office for 30 years —- 30 years.
You absolutely can run a state and a country into the ground in 30 years. Republicans have proved it.

tomstickler January 24, 2015 at 6:07 pm

Another data point: Jim DeMint approves Haley’s tax proposal.


nitrat January 25, 2015 at 8:35 am

Jim DeMinted was FOR a nationwide version of RomneyCare until Barack Obama actually did it.

Jim DeMinted abhors compromise and says he loves the Constitution. Anyone who is so ignorant that they do not realize and recognize that the Constitution would not exist if the Founders had not made compromise after compromise to get there is too stupid or too big a liar to be taken seriously on any issue.

And, he is a member of The Fellowship/The Family/C Street/National Prayer Breakfast like Mark Sanford. DeMinted even lived in the C Street boarding house/church paying cut rate rent when he was in Congress. After a mainstream Christian group filed a complaint with the DC government about the fact that the C Street boarding house was claimed as a church by lying bunch of Christianists who owned it, DC finally did away with their special church tax break.

Farley Chickson January 25, 2015 at 9:12 am

Your entire post is a lie.

Farley Coscoe January 25, 2015 at 9:14 am

Like your new handle, Flip?

tomstickler January 25, 2015 at 2:14 pm

Still ripping off OSU for his avatars.

BTW Will, where is my “hat tip” for DeMont backing Haley’s tax plan?

tomstickler January 25, 2015 at 2:29 pm

Fartly; read this and then get back to us (especially the list of members and the section on how the Family deals with adultery)

jimlewisowb January 24, 2015 at 6:14 pm

Sorry there you little freckle face fucker – your story header is wrong


She is an above average Gypsy who is playing a shell game and rather than shuffling peas she is shuffling taxpayers

Roll on Gypsy Queen Dooh Nibor, dammit, roll on !!

Farley Chickson January 25, 2015 at 9:11 am

Explain the ‘shell game ,Sir Dumbass.

Hi Flip January 25, 2015 at 9:30 am

It’s kind of like when you create a new handle every other day, thinking you’re clever (lol), yet the same old fart under is under every shell. Kind of like that, dumbass.

Bible Thumper January 24, 2015 at 6:51 pm

They have been shifting money and selling bonds for roads for years. If you agree the roads need more money, the only place it should come from is fuel tax, auto sales tax. Even if you don’t, they should stop diverting other taxpayer money to roads. Auto property taxes goes to counties.
Fuel tax is a user tax. It taxes individuals and businesses fairly based on their amount of use of the roads. The tax should only be used for roads, bridges and highway patrol.

Harry January 24, 2015 at 8:30 pm

Good one! So, those remarks Haley made on Facebook against Sen Shealy (about her work on the senate subcommittee investigating DSS) will ONLY be made from her PERSONAL computer when she is “off duty?” Yeah… believe that one and I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you!

Mik January 24, 2015 at 8:30 pm

Auto property taxes should go to counties for ROAD works! The taxes should not be used, as they are, for everything under the sun. Cars create the need for roads and the diversion of that income is why counties don’t want more control over roads in their counties!

RogueElephant January 24, 2015 at 9:07 pm

With SC roads in the sorry shape they are in, there IS NO surplus. Our roads are in a shambles and nothing less than a massive road project is going to fix them

FastEddy23 January 25, 2015 at 4:49 am

Too bad. Too bad you all don’t have a recall process. Is it possible to get your legislators to enact something?

HUNTBAILEY January 25, 2015 at 7:37 am


Why can’t we just bring back a form of video poker. In 1999 our roads were great, economy was flourishing, etc. Maybe that is b/c there were 28,600 “known” registers poker machines paying $2500 per machine annually, fact! I do however, assume the boys and girls in Columbia are too stupid to see the benifit of this, all without raising 1 single tax dollar!

Larry Bishop January 25, 2015 at 8:16 am

COLUMBIA, SC — WHEN MARK Sanford ran for governor in 2002, he proposed to increase our tax on gasoline and eliminate the state income tax. He didn’t claim it was a plan to save our roads. It was a plan to cut our taxes, plain and simple.

And that’s what Gov. Nikki Haley offered us in her State of the State address on Wednesday: a plan to cut taxes. Oh, she called it a plan to address what most businesses and lawmakers and many citizens consider our most urgent problem: our crumbling roads and bridges.

But it would cover barely a fifth of the need, and in reality it was just a warmed-over version of the Sanford plan. It should meet the same fate as the Sanford plan, which the Republican Legislature rejected, because lawmakers knew we could not afford a massive reduction in the money available to pay for schools and prisons and industrial recruitment and mental health and other basic services.

Gov. Haley did propose to spend the new gas tax revenue on roads: $3.5 billion over the next decade. But she also proposed to steal $8.5 billion from those core functions of government over that same period.

The governor says she’s making roads a priority (although really she’s making tax cuts the priority), and it’s true that we can fix a big problem in government by making it a priority. But if we aren’t careful, we create other problems, as we saw most recently with the cuts to our child-protection program that Gov. Haley now wants to reverse .

Her plan makes sense only if we are spending too much on government. But her budget doesn’t demonstrate that she believes that. State revenue is expected to grow by $290 million next year, as a result of inflation and population growth; Gov. Haley proposes to use $108 million of that to increase school funding, $92 million on new child-protection caseworkers and other health and social services, $61 million on roads, $32 million on employee benefits and $13 million on new parole officers and other public safety programs.

So if her tax plan were already law, she’d have to cut $119 million from her budget. (That number would grow to $1.7 billion a year once the tax cut is fully phased in, in 2015.) That means either she’d have to scale back her education initiatives or those new DSS caseworkers or one of her other proposals, or else find something else in the budget to cut. And if there’s something in her budget that she believes we’d be just fine without, you have to wonder why she didn’t eliminate it, and send that money to roads.

The governor does get one thing absolutely right on roads: She insists that we dismantle our parochial road-building-and-repair system and replace it with one that actually looks at the needs of our state. That absolutely needs to be a component of any plan to spend more money on roads. As for how to get that money, it looks like legislators are going to have to figure that out for themselves, because all the governor has proposed is to cut spending to other programs, which she has not identified even for the relatively easy first year.

Read more here:

Farley Chickson January 25, 2015 at 9:09 am

Larry Bishop aka SCDP stooge and moron!!!
Get over it Larry-Haley and Sanford just keep kicking your ass and it will NEVER change.

Farley Fucknuts January 25, 2015 at 9:14 am

Flip, is back! Is GrandTango sitting there next to you?

Rakkasan January 25, 2015 at 8:59 am

And the money to fix the roads and the schools and the DSS and the….comes from where again? Is it the smoke, the mirrors, or voodoo?

Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 1:07 pm

NOTE to all: Flippy/pogo’s “Farley Chickson” Twitter account has been de-activated already. Probably did it himself, and will now whine that somebody hacked it and tweeted porn in his “name.”

Buz Martin January 25, 2015 at 1:09 pm

Actually, though, he might do all that hacking of himself, himself.

SYBILing rivalry.

snickering January 25, 2015 at 1:07 pm

Well Jim DeMint just endorsed her Voo Doo plan that’s because DeMint is and always will be Demented.


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