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Ukraine: Nazis, And Belated Truth

LOOK WHO IS HELPING AMERICA SPREAD “FREEDOM” It only took eight months but the American mainstream media is finally admitting that the U.S. State Department orchestrated the coup that ousted Ukraine’s democratically elected government and kicked off the “Russian aggression” in Eastern Europe. Wait … you thought it was all…

LOOK WHO IS HELPING AMERICA SPREAD “FREEDOM”

It only took eight months but the American mainstream media is finally admitting that the U.S. State Department orchestrated the coup that ousted Ukraine’s democratically elected government and kicked off the “Russian aggression” in Eastern Europe.

Wait … you thought it was all Vladimir Putin‘s fault?  Ha!  Silly you …

In this piece for Yahoo! News, analyst Patrick Smith notes that “with unseemly haste, State backed a coup precipitated by violence-loving extremists who pushed the protests beyond their intent. They sent (former president Viktor) Yanukovich into exile and gave power to unelected provisionals.”

Yeah … so much for “making the world safe for democracy.”  Which incidentally isn’t our job either .

Anyway … who are the “violence-loving extremists” Smith is referring to?

If you answered “Nazis,” you’d be correct.

This week, Germany’s public broadcasting outfit – ZDF – posted some interesting images of Ukrainian soldiers.

Take a look …

(Click to enlarge)

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(Pic: ZDF)

Nice, huh?

Gotta love Amerika’s “partners in peace.”

UPDATE: Check yourselves, commenters.

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49 comments

Jackie Chiles September 9, 2014 at 9:39 am

Two guys in Nazi helmets hardly indicates the entire group backed by the US/Europe is made up of Nazis. That said, it probably wasn’t a good idea for US/Europe to intervene in Ukraine in the first place.

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SenseLikeChaps September 9, 2014 at 11:02 am

No, but there has been a small, but strong and steadily increasing hard-right shift in rural areas that both sides have played off of. For the Russians it was a good chance to install “anti-Nazi” snipers during the demonstrations in Kiev. For the US it was a good group to rile up via NGOs to put force on a government who was leaning towards Russia. We’ve both taken a less than hands-off approach and it has largely been to Ukraine’s detriment. We just didn’t expect Russia to be as nearly as aggressive as they were.

Now Russia is leaning on Lithuania by pressing charges against men who were conscripted but didn’t fight for the Soviets when the USSR fell. I’d like to think that is just empty sabre rattling, but Russia hasn’t given us a lot of reasons lately to think it isn’t. I hope this doesn’t get worse before it gets better.

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Tom September 9, 2014 at 11:27 am

I have to agree. There are soldiers in our own military who after getting out have joined militia groups including neo-Nazi and skin head groups. That indicates nothing about our military or our nation.

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Natural September 9, 2014 at 11:47 am

The symbols were hand done by a sharpie like black marker.

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Bible Thumper September 9, 2014 at 12:00 pm

Sharpie is an American manufacturer of writing instruments whose products are sold in over 20 countries.

This give Will Folks all the evidence needed to prove a US conspiracy.

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The Colonel September 9, 2014 at 12:09 pm

+5 – classic

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Will Folks aka Sic September 9, 2014 at 1:50 pm

Wait for the follow-up story ;)

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The Colonel September 9, 2014 at 3:04 pm Reply
Your Pegged September 9, 2014 at 3:51 pm

Stay the course, Sir Sic of Fits-a-Lot … The Colonel is sinking, …. He’s being exposed.

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SamAdams2010 September 9, 2014 at 3:06 pm

Simply casting doubt by calling into question the number of adherents doesn’t make the information conveyed false. That’s how lawyers win, not nations.

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You Are Missing It September 9, 2014 at 3:49 pm

Might be just two photos, but who knows as to the thousands of the other soldiers.

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Jackie Chiles September 9, 2014 at 3:54 pm

One minute they’re drawing Nazi symbols in sharpie on their helmets. The next, they’re goose stepping their way through Paris.

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idiotwind September 9, 2014 at 9:44 am

Fits, you understand that this puts you fully in line with kremlin spin right? i mean maybe the kremlin is being completely truthful and forthright. but maybe not, and maybe this makes you look sort of like an idiot.

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idiotwind September 9, 2014 at 9:50 am

of course it also puts you in line with the GOP, who have decided that Putin is Reagan. but is it possible that american money supporting pro-democracy groups isn’t the same as actual russian soldiers invading a sovereign neighbor. i mean ‘encouraging’ demonstrators is not precisely the same as sending in troops is it?

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SamAdams2010 September 9, 2014 at 3:02 pm

No but Putin learned and internalized the Ray-gun means of winning the cold war: force your opponent to spend their economy chasing military phantoms to destroy its economy. All the rest just falls apart.

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Will Folks aka Sic September 9, 2014 at 1:49 pm

“Kremlin spin?” LOL. Just pointing out the fundamental hypocrisy of American foreign policy.

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The Colonel September 9, 2014 at 10:01 am

“…American mainstream media is finally admitting that the U.S. State Department orchestrated the coup that ousted Ukraine’s democratically elected government… “

Will, it’s a long way from “unseemly haste” in recognizing a government to organizing a coup – is this “Hyped Up Bovine Excreta Headline Week” and you forgot to let us know?

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Manray September 9, 2014 at 10:04 am

Sic is “cherry picking” to support the Ron Paul worldview.

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E Norma Scok September 9, 2014 at 10:55 am

Maybe. But I don’t really trust what my government tells me, either.

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The Colonel September 9, 2014 at 11:08 am

Well E, that makes you a sane and rational person – we all need a health dose of skepticism in this day and age.

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E Norma Scok September 9, 2014 at 1:22 pm

Oh, I don’t doubt your point here at all. Mine point is I have no idea what our government is up to, what problems it causes, and what we are really being told. Its not that I’m skeptical of it; I simply don’t trust it.

Oops September 9, 2014 at 3:42 pm

Glad to see that the teacher, The Colonel, also makes typos.
Get off that high horse now.

The Colonel September 9, 2014 at 4:05 pm

All the time – I generally own it when I do (or blame it on my Kindle…) What’d I screw up?

Your Pegged September 9, 2014 at 3:43 pm

Two photos of two soldiers. Could be more. And whose to say their are not? Certainly not you. Not everyone is so open with displaying symbols for what their believe in. You are not worthy of being an officer, if you are. And I think its time to do something about that.

The Colonel September 9, 2014 at 4:07 pm

I’m sorry, you misunderstood me. My point is that two soldiers do not “national policy” make.
I noted that I had punished Soldiers for putting things on display that were offensive, including one for an obscenity on his helmet that he failed to correct when called on it. I am in no way defending the use of those abhorrent symbol.

Will Folks aka Sic September 9, 2014 at 1:50 pm

NEW WORLD ORDER!!!

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The Colonel September 9, 2014 at 3:02 pm

Paul’s view isn’t NEW WORLD ORDER, it’s SENILE WORLD ORDER.

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Your Pegged September 9, 2014 at 3:47 pm

The blog that links from your DIS account … so that is you in the photo. Ok … we are on to discovering who you are, etc.

E Norma Scok September 9, 2014 at 3:56 pm

If you ask real nice, I imagine he’ll just tell you.

The Colonel September 9, 2014 at 4:09 pm

Yes, that’s my blog. Something to do when I was bored on my last deployment.

easterndumbfuckistan September 9, 2014 at 4:43 pm Reply
CIA meddling, not intelligence September 9, 2014 at 10:07 am

The CIA are nothing but a bunch of troublemakers. Gut the agency and start over with one that has some accountability to elected officials.

They control foreign policy more than our own leaders.

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CNSYD September 9, 2014 at 11:02 am

SVR and GRU are agreeing with your suggestion. MI6, Mossad and BND can’t believe your naivety.

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aikencounty September 9, 2014 at 12:24 pm

Interesting conversation between Truman and Eisenhower about the future of the CIA.

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Philip Branton September 9, 2014 at 10:54 am

Hmm….actually a great PSYOPS example and tactic. How is this being used to instill fear into the “educated crowd”…?

Wonder if they have a T-shirt with a Ray Rice picture on it under their uniforms….?

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E Norma Scok September 9, 2014 at 1:27 pm

More importantly, where is CATHERINE DENNIS in all of this? Does she have a T-RAV for Senate T shirt? Even a bumper sticker?

And where does PERRY CHRISTIE stand on this, and how does it affect Bahamian tourism with BARBADOS?!?

Inquiring minds want to know, FITS!

Boomerang 101, mazeltoff, hari krishna.

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The Colonel September 9, 2014 at 1:31 pm

+3 Thanks – Root beer through the nose again…

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Philip Branton September 9, 2014 at 3:14 pm

Bravo Colonel………BRAVO

{+5 points and a free Jack Sparrow retort….}

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09T2PVVf1q8

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Philip Branton September 9, 2014 at 3:13 pm

Catherine Dennis is traveling Northbound on I-85 just past Woodruff road according to her Google car test drive appointment. At 78 miles an hour ….traffic is therefore moving briskly. I’m not sure about her T-Shirt selection but her bra can be bought at SOMA intimates on sale for less than 42 dollars. I can’t make out her bumper stickers from the traffic cams.

As far as Perry Christie…….his info is not registering in the Bahamas or Barbados. There is a boat named Perry COMO in drydock…..

{Boomerang 101, 404, 901 ….. +10 points and a Sonic coupon …}

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E Norma Scok September 9, 2014 at 4:00 pm

Perhaps you need need better intel. Perry Christie is STILL the prime minister of the “Bahamas” and HAS BEEN since 2012. His office address is P O Box CB 10980 Nassau, N.P., The Bahamas.

And I doubt Catherine Dennis would EVER where a bra from ‘SOMA”. Yuck..just yuck.

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Philip Branton September 9, 2014 at 4:36 pm

…..move Knight to counter position….+7 points……..cold Corona “waiting”…..

Bravo…..

aikencounty September 9, 2014 at 9:30 pm

You forgot the little Bessinger barbeque bimbo.

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Bible Thumper September 9, 2014 at 11:53 am

I read the links and can’t find where the US instigated the overthrow of the deal between the elected president Viktor Yanukovich and the demonstrators in Kiev last February.

Sure after the fact the US recognized the facts, but Yanukovich fled and the Russians themselves said Yanukovich was finished. What other choice was there? That doesn’t mean the US orchestrated a coup, but fits continues to repeat the lie.

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Thomas September 9, 2014 at 11:54 am

For you millennials coming out of your drug induced stupors and backing away from your “fuck anything that moves” sexual morality long enough for your brains to heal leading to at least partial rational thought, the world is controlled by…M-O-N-E-Y. You know, the reality of selling out your dwarfish world view and personal core convictions for that green currency that your parents aren’t made of so you revert to the age old profession of prostituting yourself in business, politics, criminality to get it just like everyone else on this planet.

To make a long story short, read “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man” by John Perkins. Then read “Tragedy and Hope” by Carrol Quigely. Got it so far? Now look at this “infographic. With me so far?

No imagine Russia wants to protect her gas pipelines running through Ukraine and Monsanto wants to introduce Genetically Modified Food into Europe through Ukraine, then you begin to understand the politics of economics for those who will do, say, or kill anything that gets in their way.

BTW, 9-11-2014 is 48 hours away…watch the evening news on 9-12-2014 then repeat three times clicking your heels, “there is no place like home, there is no place like home, there is no place like home”.

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Thomas September 9, 2014 at 12:03 pm

Hey Fits, you forgot Victor Yushchenko and the Orange Revolution.

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Ludwig Von Mises September 9, 2014 at 2:50 pm

As one who kicks Fits around with the best of them,I think he is spot on here.

Vladamir Putins hands certainly arent clean in this Ukrainian affair.Neither are ours.

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Soft Sigh from Hell September 9, 2014 at 5:33 pm

Interesting connections between Nazis and Ukrainians. The Nazi invasion was first looked at by some as a liberation from Stalin, hated anyway but especially hated for the man-made famine and holocaust-scale deaths during collectivization of agriculture. Had Germany not followed the German army with the WaffenSS and regular SS who considered and treated all Slavs as inferiors fit only for slaves or at best serfs there might have been a lot less resistance, especially in the vastness and comparative safety for guerrillas of the Pripyet Marshes. Even so, Cossack troops joined the German army in whole units. At the end of the war the allies turned the captured Cossacks over to Stalin. End of story for them. A James Bond movie once dealt with the lingering hatred of Cossacks to Soviet Russians.

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