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Jim Clyburn: “Gimme Gimme Medicaid”

LIBERAL CONGRESSMAN NEEDS TO CHECK HIS MATH … U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) – one of America’s staunchest anti-liberty, anti-prosperity lawmakers – is pushing to expand Medicaid in South Carolina under president Barack Obama’s signature socialized medicine law. Clyburn and fellow liberal lawmakers in Georgia and North Carolina have formed…

LIBERAL CONGRESSMAN NEEDS TO CHECK HIS MATH …

U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) – one of America’s staunchest anti-liberty, anti-prosperity lawmakers – is pushing to expand Medicaid in South Carolina under president Barack Obama’s signature socialized medicine law.

Clyburn and fellow liberal lawmakers in Georgia and North Carolina have formed a “State Medicaid Expansion Caucus” aimed at convincing leaders in all three GOP-controlled states to accept additional Medicaid funding associated with “Obamacare.”

We think Clyburn should check his math …

Last November FITS published an exclusive report detailing the projected rise in Medicaid enrollment in South Carolina under “Republican” Gov. Nikki Haley.

According to data from the governor’s own Department of Health and Human Services (SCDHHS), Medicaid enrollment is set to soar by 16 percent in the fiscal year that began on July 1 – which is triple the projected rate of growth in the previous fiscal year .

That astronomical figure – which will cost South Carolina taxpayers half a billion dollars – is more than three times higher than the average growth rate in states that didn’t accept Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion.  In fact it’s higher than the 12 percent average growth rate of states that did  accept Obamacare’s expansion.

All that after Haley had the audacity to tell The Wall Street Journal  that South Carolina “will not expand Medicaid. Ever.”

Earlier this year,  The Washington Post  published Medicaid expansion data for the six months from October 2013 to March of this year. According to the data – compiled by Avalere Health – South Carolina added 53,600 new beneficiaries to its taxpayer-subsidized rolls over that time period. That’s the fourth-highest total out of the seventeen non-Obamacare states studied. Not only that, South Carolina’s growth rate of 5.4 percent for the period was nearly double the non-Obamacare average increase of 2.8 percent.

Again … Clyburn needs to check his math.  South Carolina is growing Medicaid by leaps and bounds – and doing so in a manner that will pass on maximum costs to Palmetto State taxpayers.  Unlike Obamacare growth – which the federal government is subsidizing at 100 percent through 2016 (and at 90 percent thereafter) – South Carolina will have to pick up at least 30 percent of the “Haley-care” expansion.

That’s not a reason to embrace Obamacare … it’s a reason to refrain from expanding the state’s Medicaid population under any circumstance.

Which brings us to our most important point: If South Carolina’s economy is recovering the way Haley keeps telling us it is – why is there an explosion in dependency?  If more South Carolinians are working than ever before thanks to the so-called “Jobs Governor,” shouldn’t Medicaid be shrinking?

Or at the very least not growing at such an exorbitant rate?

Exactly …

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75 comments

The Colonel July 23, 2014 at 1:28 pm

Looks like it was a rough night for Ol”Enos…

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Dave Chappelle July 23, 2014 at 1:29 pm

Medicaid is a mess–no doubt. However, analogous to all of the other healthcare reform debates, the current system is a disaster, the proposed expansion was a future disaster, and there’s nothing else to discuss (it would seem). Unfortunately, the same fuss tends to neglect the opportunity for “smart” people to help craft something that does address many of the problems.
As someone who has actually studied and read the health laws, I do find it interesting that the proposed Medicaid expansion actually removed the old “net worth calculation” in order to determine one’s eligibility. In fact, this was extremely monumental (in theory) in terms of allowing someone to actually gain some form of a savings account. In other words, the new program removes the motivation to remain “income poor.” Rather, someone with a minimal salary can now maintain, or achieve, the motivation to help save for their kid’s first car; or help pay for their education.

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idcydm July 23, 2014 at 1:51 pm

Clyburn needs to read “Please Stop Helping Us” by Jason Riley.

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Jim July 23, 2014 at 3:31 pm

If you are referring to the State of South Carolina you are right. Please stop helping this state by turning down things we need, and letting our money go to pay for those same things in other states.

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idcydm July 23, 2014 at 4:46 pm

You see that’s the problem, our money shouldn’t be going to the Feds so they can give it to which ever state they want.

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Jim July 23, 2014 at 5:12 pm

Be careful what you wish for, SC is a taker state. We take in more money from the feds than we send out to the feds. So we are actually one of the places that people in California and New York, and Conn are sending their money to..

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idcydm July 23, 2014 at 5:18 pm

Then how are we losing???

Be careful is right, to the tune of $17.5 Trillion, one of these days the Feds won’t be able to fund it self let alone the states. As the matter of fact, they can’t fund it now, hence 17.5!!!

Jim July 23, 2014 at 6:26 pm

The deficit is a result of overspending (including two very expensive wars) and under taxing. The annual deficit has actually been falling ever since sequestration. We may actually have a budget surplus next year. An increase in taxes to where they were under Clinton and we could begin to pay down the deficit.

idcydm July 23, 2014 at 7:01 pm

“we could begin to pay down the deficit”…wishful thinking.

A hundred million dollars, Mr. President, is only a “drop
in the bucket.” I grew up at a time when on Sunday, if I had
been a good boy for the whole week, my mother gave me a penny and said to me, “My son, don’t spend it all in one place.”

We have come a long way from then. The classic example is here tonight, when the Senator from Colorado says a hundred million dollars is “a drop in the bucket.” No wonder we are nursing a $295 billion debt. ~Everett Dirksen

[Congressional Record, June 8, 1961, p.9896]

Any so called budget surplus has been nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

E Norma Scok July 24, 2014 at 8:36 am

A penny? Are you 150 years old?

idcydm July 24, 2014 at 9:04 am

No but I do remember when you could buy something with a penny.

PLEASEDOACTUALRESEARCH July 24, 2014 at 11:05 am

While I respect your opinion it is clear you do not have a very firm grasp of how a global economy functions. Having personal debt can be bad but a country having debt is an extremely common practice. If the United States were North Korea and we had no hope of growing economically then we would be in trouble LOOK THIS UP. We owe most of our debt to US government programs (aka individual taxpayers) so financially the United States is doing very well at this point. DONT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT LOOK IT UP. I can’t stress this enough.

idcydm July 24, 2014 at 5:44 pm

The United States recorded a Government Debt to GDP of 101.53 percent of the country’s Gross Domestic Product in 2013. Government Debt To GDP in the United States averaged 60.81 Percent from 1940 until 2013, reaching an all time high of 121.70 Percent in 1946 and a record low of 31.70 Percent in 1974.

Generally, Government debt as a percent of GDP is used by investors to measure a country ability to make future payments on its debt, thus affecting the country borrowing costs and government bond yields.

Social Security trust funds (16 percent), the Federal Reserve banks (12 percent).

Social Security trust fund, robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Federal Reserve, trying to buck up the economy but just barely holding above a recession.

How much are those government bonds yielding…10 year at 2.5%.

Yep, let’s keep growing the national debt.

Scooter July 25, 2014 at 10:00 pm

That is shit that Keynes preached many years ago. Look what it got us.

Scooter July 25, 2014 at 10:03 pm

And don’t forget all that government land that we own. We can always sell some of it or mortgage it. Oh hell, we have already done that to China. But wait, they can’t move it to China, can they. The libtards have all the answers

RogueElephant July 26, 2014 at 8:19 am

Keynesian economics and progressivism has resulted in the mess we have today. Our children and three or four generations after them thank you. There is no way one or two generations can repair what Obummer has done. Of course that is what he intended to do all along. Overwhelm the system, thereby reducing our once great country to third world status, plus throw in several million illegals to finish .

RogueElephant July 26, 2014 at 8:14 am

WOW And I thought my parents were stingy ! They gave me a quarter. With which I could buy a Nehi Strawberry drink ($.10) and a Nab. ($.05) and still had “walking around money”. Of course my Mom made me give a nickel to the church and put another nickel in my piggy bank. The pre Jimmy Carter world was a wonderful place. LOL

itsmorninginamerica July 24, 2014 at 9:50 am

a surplus?! yay! then we can elect another republican president!

Tom July 24, 2014 at 9:54 am

To spend it? Last Annual Surplus was under Clinton.

idcydm July 24, 2014 at 10:34 am

I thought it was Congress that held the purse strings.

Tom July 24, 2014 at 4:13 pm

Unless you get us into an unnecessary war, then they are forced to fund it.

idcydm July 24, 2014 at 6:02 pm

You bet they funded it, congress loves to spend money they don’t have.

Baseline budgeting is the elephant in the room along with congress saying they are cutting spending when they are only spending less than they want too.

As long as there is deficit spending there are no real cuts and the national debt continues to increase.

RogueElephant July 24, 2014 at 11:32 am

By gutting the military. Obummer is trying to do the same now as he is throwing away the gains made under Bush 43. Now at some later date a Republican pres. will have to clean up the mess and will be blamed for “excessive spending” that has already been spent once then wasted then needed again. When will the US ever learn. Never elect a Dim.

Tom July 24, 2014 at 4:11 pm

You realize our annual “defense” spending is several times that of the Russians and Chinese combined. When do we reach enough? I guess we never do as long as we have a Repugnut running the show. We are far from gutting the military. We should take it back to where it was under Clinton plus the rate of inflation. We would still be well about the combined expenditures of the Russians and Chinese combined.

Tom July 24, 2014 at 4:12 pm

correction above the combined expenditures of the Russians and the Chinese.

Scooter July 25, 2014 at 9:58 pm

I once voted for one. I have seen asked for forgiveness but I, sometimes, have nightmares about it.

RogueElephant July 26, 2014 at 7:51 am

“I feel your pain” I voted for Jimmy Carter because he was a Southerner and a farmer. Ford wasn’t much any way. But that was the last Dim I voted for and will most likely be the last I ever will vote for.

idiotwind July 23, 2014 at 2:13 pm

are poor people getting sick more often because of ACA? SC taxpayers were picking up the tab for free care at hospitals, now they’re picking up the tab for medicaid dr. visits. its probably cheaper.

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Tunes'n'News July 23, 2014 at 2:24 pm

Didn’t the Haley Administration simply encourage people who were already eligible for Medicaid to sign up for it, rather than making any statutory or regulatory change?Amirite? Oramirong?

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tomstickler July 23, 2014 at 3:09 pm

You are right. The only reason South Carolina’s “expansion” is so much higher is that it started from a large base of people already qualified, but were not enrolled, either through ignorance or deliberate lack of information by the state.

There has been zero expansion in South Carolina under ACA, since only those between 134% and 100% of poverty qualify, and Haley refused this 100% federal reimbursement for at least three years and never less than 90% on the grounds that SC could not afford to do so.

Her math skills are no better than Will’s when it comes to Obamacare.

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Smirks July 23, 2014 at 4:38 pm

The biggest argument I see is “but the feds can just change what they contribute later!”

Rather than scale back what the feds spend and let the states bear the full weight of that burden instead, simply keep the 90/10 split and wind down how much that expansion covers. Sure, it throws people off Medicaid, but at least then cuts would spare state budgets by reducing eligibility requirements. If states wanted to cover beyond that, they could, just that it’d be their own money.

But that’s the thing. You can’t fix parts of the bill you believe are broken. You can’t offer solutions to problems that might arise later on down the road. You can’t offer sensible alternatives that accomplish most of what Obamacare attempts to accomplish. Those are logical approaches to the Affordable Care Act. The only solution you are allowed to come up with is repeal and replace, and if people really pester you about the “replace” part, just mumble something about tort reform and high risk pools and… DEATH PANELS! BENGHAZI! SOLYNDRA!

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idcydm July 23, 2014 at 5:14 pm

You forgot the IRS, they are right in the middle of this mess.

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Sandy Burglar July 25, 2014 at 10:01 am

Nobody on the left WANTS to fix a damn thing Smirks. Nobody. All your strawmen and distractions can’t take away from that fact. A law that was sold dishonestly, rammed through behind a pack of lies and falsehoods was done so for a reason. Because to them the ends – total government-run health care – justified the means. No matter how shitty the care, no matter how few doctors there are, no matter that there is nowhere near enough money…the ends justified the central planners and welfare kings (like yourself) dreams. They don’t want to “fix” an effiing word of this ridiculous monstrosity.

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tomstickler July 23, 2014 at 3:09 pm

You are right. The only reason South Carolina’s “expansion” is so much higher is that it started from a large base of people already qualified, but were not enrolled, either through ignorance or deliberate lack of information by the state.

There has been zero expansion in South Carolina under ACA, since only those between 134% and 100% of poverty qualify, and Haley refused this 100% federal reimbursement for at least three years and never less than 90% on the grounds that SC could not afford to do so.

Her math skills are no better than Will’s when it comes to Obamacare.

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Squishy123 July 23, 2014 at 2:51 pm

He probably has another daughter needing a government appointed job.

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Put my cream sauce on it July 23, 2014 at 4:09 pm

I gonna git me some o dat dere Filly Mignon.

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MyDaddyIsRich July 24, 2014 at 12:00 am

Like Liz Cheney?

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Squishy123 July 24, 2014 at 8:48 am

Liz Cheney is Enos’s daughter? Did she inherit the same constantly bloodshot eyes?

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SCBlues July 24, 2014 at 8:53 am

It’s alright for white folks to give their children government jobs but we can’t let them niggers get away with it, right Squishy??

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Squishy123 July 24, 2014 at 12:53 pm

How many race cards do you wear out in a month?

SCBlues July 24, 2014 at 2:42 pm

LOL I don’t have to wear out any with you around, Squishy? How many sheets do you wear out in a month?

Tom July 24, 2014 at 9:49 am

Like Nikki Hailey and her husband and daughter working for the state. If her son were old enough he would have a job too. Republican politicians love those state benefits. Just not for anyone but them.

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Squishy123 July 24, 2014 at 12:58 pm

Like Haley is alone in this, every time a college administrator gets hired, they create a job for his/her spouse and it’s usually a $70k+ position. Hell Spurrier has two of his kids working for him, the youngest one with no athletic ability, yet still made his daddy’s football team, is making $60k with the Athletic Department straight out of college. I guess sometimes those Sports Management and Recreation degrees do pay off.

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Jan July 23, 2014 at 3:34 pm

Tuning down expanded Medicaid for our working poor is beyond stupid. It is almost as stupid as wishing that our citizens did not qualify for a tax subsidy to help pay for health insurance when people in other states do.

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Smirks July 23, 2014 at 4:17 pm

It helps if you look at the poor as if they chose to be poor through their laziness. Extra points if you compare them to stray animals.

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srayanimalsforsocialism July 24, 2014 at 8:41 am

What percentage of the “poor” would you say have made, and continue to make, unwise lifestyle decisions enabled by the welfare state? People who are in a temporary bad situation or have legitimate physical handicaps, should rightly be in a different category. There is a big difference.

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Tom July 24, 2014 at 9:51 am

What percentage would you say?

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RogueElephant July 24, 2014 at 11:27 am

Around my area it would be at least 50%. No accurate numbers but judging by what I see at the grocery store.

RogueElephant July 25, 2014 at 9:47 am

I read recently that there is a sign in a national park that says something to the effect : Please don’t feed the wild animals. It lessens their natural instincts and increases their dependency on humans. Just saying …. Everyone knows if you feed a stray kitten you will have many stray cats before very long. That level of humanity works the same way. Weather you like it or not. Facts are a hard thing to take sometimes.

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Tom July 25, 2014 at 12:57 pm

“That level of humanity…” Racists can’t hold it in forever can they? You had a good run, though.

It may be in the eyes of heaven you are less worthy than “that level of humanity.” I’m pretty confident you are.

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Scooter July 25, 2014 at 9:53 pm

If they would quit buying lottery tickets and getting tattoos then they could pay for insurance. 90% of these people bring it on themselves. They buy crack, buy their groceries from 7/ll and disobey most laws, yet, you sick little liberals want everyone else to pay for their “misfortunes.” The other 10% who really can’t help it are the ones that we should focus on. Not these sorry ass deadbeats who want to live off the rest of us.

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RogueElephant July 26, 2014 at 8:33 am

Dead on.

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ASS BLOW July 23, 2014 at 4:25 pm

This lazy crazy nigger has fucked orangeburg pretty good………

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Toyota Kawaski July 24, 2014 at 8:38 am

real nice Ass Clown! Dont care for the guy either but his skin color has nothing to do with it.

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SCBlues July 24, 2014 at 8:48 am

“real nice Ass Clown! Dont care for the guy either but his skin color has nothing to do with it.”
Please! Give me a break! His skin color has everything to do with it – just like President Obama’s skin color has everything to do with it – especially to morons such as Ass Blow. I actually respect Ass Blow more than I do most of the other racist creeps that post on this site – at least Ass Blow puts it right out there and calls them niggers – the others make racist posts using all sorts of code words and then they act all offended when you call them for their racist shit. Get a clue.

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I see racist people! July 24, 2014 at 1:14 pm

No one likes uppity negroes, but you really are a bit paranoid with your “code words” shit and what not.

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SCBlues July 24, 2014 at 2:41 pm

LOL I like uppity negroes – it is ignorant white trash that I find annoying . . .

BBC FTW July 24, 2014 at 8:58 pm

“I like uppity negroes”

Oh yea baby, I’m sure you do.

SCBlues July 25, 2014 at 8:06 am

“Oh yea baby, I’m sure you do.”
That “ignorant white trash” remark hit home??

lawzeeme July 25, 2014 at 2:18 pm

Why do they always wear so much strong cologne?

Squishy123 July 24, 2014 at 8:49 am

It got him where he is today.

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SCBlues July 24, 2014 at 8:51 am

What got you where you are today? Racist parents?

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Scooter July 25, 2014 at 10:05 pm

You should know.

RogueElephant July 26, 2014 at 8:04 am

Without the Voting Rights Act and the brown skin he would be shining shoes at the capital.

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ASS BLOW July 24, 2014 at 9:30 am

Fuck you dick head.

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ASS BLOW July 23, 2014 at 4:25 pm

This lazy crazy nigger has fucked orangeburg pretty good………

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Deo Vindice SC July 23, 2014 at 7:29 pm

This is why Orangeturd is what it is. Black crap, plain and simple. The whole town sinks like ass-wipe. Who would invest here ?

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RogueElephant July 26, 2014 at 8:28 am

Not just Orangeburg, Travel any road that goes from the rest of the state into the sixth dist. It is like going from civilization to the third world. The only hope for the sixth dist. is the rest of the state will run out of any place to put things and will eventually bleed over into it. Meanwhile the congressman of shame and his cronies will mop up the freebys at the expense of the people he is supposed to represent.

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Toyota Kawaski July 24, 2014 at 8:32 am

and all u Tea Party D-bags want to run LOG out the Senate but you sit here and play nothing but lip service when it comes to the “Poverty Pimp”??????

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RogueElephant July 24, 2014 at 11:41 am

“poverty pimp” GREAT ! that is all the congressman of shame has ever been and all he will ever be. I’ll add that to my list.

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Thomas July 24, 2014 at 4:49 pm

Lindsey Graham is a drum beater for the Military Industrial Complex. He usurped our Senate seat for that purpose. His state is one of the worst offenders for veteran healthcare delivery. He ignored our pleas for port expansion studies. He is a Democrat in a homosexual’s trousers.

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K{-}{-}L July 24, 2014 at 9:16 am

The Angry Black Man (*rolls eyes*)

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Thomas July 24, 2014 at 9:49 am

I agree with Clyburn. If SC’s “beautiful people” are so adamant to collect tax revenues then spend it on public workers wages, healthcare, and pensions to such a degree that vital funding for local governments (counties), child services, mental health, prisons, road repairs are cut off, then yes, the down trodden eligible for Medicaid deserve their’s too.

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readmoretalkless July 24, 2014 at 10:47 am

Having arguements in the comments section of an article is about the same as yelling at a brick wall. Reading more about the issue would probably be more beneficial, but hey, whatever validates your opinion to you

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RogueElephant July 24, 2014 at 11:34 am

Gimmie, gimmie gimmie, The congressman of shame has spoken. WOW

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