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Rand Paul Stands By “Southern Avenger”

U.S. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) is standing by an aide accused of racism – saying the “Southern Avenger” who currently handles his new media efforts was guilty only of “youthful political showmanship.” The “Southern Avenger” is Jack Hunter – a former pro-secession advocate who was once affiliated with a group…

U.S. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) is standing by an aide accused of racism – saying the “Southern Avenger” who currently handles his new media efforts was guilty only of “youthful political showmanship.”

The “Southern Avenger” is Jack Hunter – a former pro-secession advocate who was once affiliated with a group that has been described by the politically correct establishment as “implicitly racist.” Hunter – who once said he stood by “every word” of his racially tinged commentary – has now disavowed much of his previous writing.

Paul is also looking to distance himself from some of Hunter’s previously professed beliefs – including an admiration for Abraham Lincoln’s assassin John Wilkes Booth.

“I’m not a fan of secession,” Paul told The Huffington Post. “I think the things he said about John Wilkes Booth are absolutely stupid. I think Lincoln was one of our greatest presidents. Do I think Lincoln was wrong is taking away the freedom of the press and the right of habeas corpus? Yeah.”

Paul added that he didn’t believe Hunter was a white supremacist, as a report in The Washington Free Beacon – a neoconservative publication – strongly suggested.

“If I thought he was a white supremacist, he would be fired immediately,” Paul said. ” If I thought he would treat anybody on the color of their skin different that others, I’d fire him immediately.”

As we noted in our original treatment of this controversy, we don’t believe Hunter’s prior “offenses” are especially egregious. We also believe the Beacon story was ginned up by the GOP’s big spending, war mongering majority as a way of damaging Paul’s presidential prospects – an effort we suspect will be ongoing.

However Hunter is way out on a limb in his denials, and in addition to infuriating a lot of his old “white pride” buddies – he may have set himself (and now Paul) up for bigger headaches down the road.

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110 comments

CNSYD July 11, 2013 at 10:53 am

“implicitly racist” Is that a description of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton?

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Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 12:24 pm

Um, no. That would be the white folks that bend over backwards to say African American and that only African Americans can be discriminated against, and then go home and say ‘…blah blah blah, nigger this, blah blah nigger that’.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are only racists, not implicitly racist.

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jimlewisowb July 11, 2013 at 11:11 am

Paul is just buying time

In a few weeks Hunter will announce that he has been offered a tremendous opportunity to further his career and thank Paul for all that he has done…….

…..especially for not kicking his sorry ass to the curb sooner

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jimlewisowb July 11, 2013 at 11:11 am

Paul is just buying time

In a few weeks Hunter will announce that he has been offered a tremendous opportunity to further his career and thank Paul for all that he has done…….

…..especially for not kicking his sorry ass to the curb sooner

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mph July 11, 2013 at 11:26 am

Well, if Rand Paul, a guy that hired and defended Chris Hightower (he had a post about Martin Luther King day on his myspace page titled “Happy Nigger Day” with a photograph of a lynched black man) and is buds with Alex Jones, says the guy isn’t a knuckle dragging racist, that’s good enough for me.

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mph July 11, 2013 at 11:26 am

Well, if Rand Paul, a guy that hired and defended Chris Hightower (he had a post about Martin Luther King day on his myspace page titled “Happy Nigger Day” with a photograph of a lynched black man) and is buds with Alex Jones, says the guy isn’t a knuckle dragging racist, that’s good enough for me.

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GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 11:41 am

FITS, give it up…Your stupid little @$$ ain’t going to topple Rand Paul….especially w/ Lame-Duck Obama CRASHING and Burning…like he is…

You, and the liberals, are on the downslide. Face that, and you’ll look a lot less like the BIG, FAT, Dumb@$$ you are…

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Lame Duck July 11, 2013 at 12:00 pm

“….especially w/ Lame-Duck Obama CRASHING and Burning…like he is…”

Lol! That’s what you said pre Nov. ’12!!

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GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 12:06 pm

Attack on 2nd Amendment: Obama LOST
Sequester: Obama LOST
Egypt: Obama LOST
Hiding IRS Persecution: Obama LOST
ObamaCare: Obama LOST
Snowden: Obama LOST
Immigration: Obama LOST
Trayvon Martin: Obama LOST

Yeah: he’s really knockin’ em dead…us too…

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Smirks July 11, 2013 at 12:17 pm

ObamaCare: Obama LOST

Last time I checked, ObamaCare hasn’t been repealed. :)

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GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 12:19 pm

Give us time…

Lame Duck July 11, 2013 at 12:20 pm

After 37, how much more do you need?

Lame Duck July 11, 2013 at 12:58 pm

Aw. Some pussy couldn’t handle the truth and had to down vote me. Well, that just ruined my Po Boy lunch.

Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 1:01 pm

Apparently. it was me. Your comment made no sense. Get up to speed.

Lame Duck July 11, 2013 at 1:09 pm

Alright, asshole. After 37 tries how much time will it take to repeal it? I get the idea you were hating that, maybe I was wrong. My joke about a down vote ruining my lunch was just that, a joke. Maybe I’m not that funny, okay?

Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 1:38 pm

No I really didn’t get it. That’s why. Had no idea what 37 times meant. Thanks asshole. Guess I’m not up to speed.

Lame Duck July 11, 2013 at 2:05 pm

It’s cool, Frank. I’m mostly here for news (or not news) I don’t get anywhere else, and for shits and giggles. I honestly hate 90% of most politicians nonetheless.

Sarah Palin Forever! July 11, 2013 at 3:25 pm

You dont get it.Pytel says he VOTED for Obama.Hes lying of course but in his juvenille way,he thinks “claiming “such somewhere makes his Republican supporting posts have more effect.Then, for good measure,calls the Republicans some silly name,while he uniformly supports their positions.Silly of course!

GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 1:15 pm

Funny how much of a P@$$* you actually are. One person is honest w/ you, and you collapse in your hurt…

If any of you F*#*in’ idiots had to display courage, and step out of the Lock-Step, Conformist Pack-Think, you’d $#!t all over yourselves at what it’s like not to suck off the liberal status quo…

Sophlady July 13, 2013 at 11:24 am

None of the crazy guy’s claims are accurate. But hey! It hasn’t even been a year since the President was reelected. The teabagger probably needs his fantasy.

You Didn't Build This® July 11, 2013 at 12:18 pm

You also had a mile long list before he was re-elected, dumbass: Keystone, Solyndra, Volt, Racist, Muslim Brotherhood, Birther, Blah, Blah, Blah…

Point is: Your fucking presumptuous opinion means shit here…

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GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 12:21 pm

You’re right…the people of the country are suffering, even worse now. Not Obama…

We lost…but your Sorry @$$ does not care about that as long as your lord-god-evil-savior, and the vice-dumb@$$, can spend millions of dolloars to fly all over the world…. and live like your king…

Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 12:26 pm

Unlike you who carries such clout?

You Didn't Build This® July 11, 2013 at 12:48 pm

Just stating the facts, ma’am. Anything I said above about what T’s pre election prophecies wrong?

Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 12:59 pm

Anything wrong with your presumption that you have more clout, political or otherwise than T or anyone else here.

I see folks bag on T all the time. Every once in a while he actually has a point. Instead of trying to encourage a rational though process he gets bagged on.

75 years ago two friends could sit down and cuss each other up one side and down the other about their political views, but then go home and play checkers over a whiskey and not think twice about golfing in the morning.

It sickens me that the left (read Commie Demlicans) has gotten into this ‘Loudest is Rightest” mentality. The right (read Libitard Repuklicrats) has embarked down the same path with various mantra’s (Social Conservative, Fiscal Conservative).

Neither is any better or worse than the other, and excepting a very few on this board, everyone thinks there’s some actual difference.

There hasn’t been a Liberal or a Conservative in the WH or Congress in nearly 85 years or more. They’re both sides of the same fucking coin. Plug Nickels still ain’t worth shit in my book.

You Didn't Build This® July 11, 2013 at 1:24 pm

I know of no other poster on here that makes such outlandish remarks than T Bag. I have agreeded with him on more than one occasion myself. Do I feel my opinion is worth more than his? Yes, I do, and so does about everyone else on here. Why? Because he gives generalizations at times that have no historical truth, no citing of data, and he apparently is comtempt of science or logic. Fuck, it’s just my goddamn opinion, so let’s lighten the fuck up. Hell, boss, I’ve agreed and gave you three up vote today on other posts.

Nölff July 11, 2013 at 12:14 pm

He uses random CAPITAL words. That means he YELLING. He’s going to call you a liberal and he hates this site… and he comments on it EVERY DAY…

He likes to put THREE dots behind every sentence… If you make him mad he’ll cuss at you like this… !@#$%^&

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GreenvilleLwyr July 11, 2013 at 4:23 pm

And when you point out mistakes in his posts, he’ll edit the mistake and call you crazy for making it up.

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Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 4:43 pm

I’m beginning to notice this

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hack July 11, 2013 at 12:11 pm

Rand sure as shit ain’t his pops. I almost threw up in my mouth a little when he said Lincoln was one America’s greatest presidents. It is certainly ironic a man trying to defend an accusation of racism against a staffer brings up Lincoln, as if to attempt to appease those who are still under the misinformation that Lincoln was the great slavery slayer (not vampires). All Lincoln did was kill between 600,000 and 750,000 humans unnecessarily, destroy state sovereignty as well as the Constitution, and enslave us all to perpetual debt serfdom that has resulted from his ushering in of the United States imperial age.

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nitrat July 11, 2013 at 4:31 pm

fascist brownshirt
…we don’t say it enough.

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9"(suck it,lick the precum ) July 12, 2013 at 1:05 am

Lincoln is also,in ,The Guinness Book of World Records for sucking more dick than any other president,which is a somewhat arbitrarily recognized accomplishment ,now,seeing as how people were still ‘small’,and evolving ,back then.The Civil War was not about slavery,it was about dick.

DEVO had it right,all along

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goV57pGmiCk

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 12, 2013 at 10:09 am

Rand sure as shit ain’t his pops. I almost threw up in my mouth a little when he said Lincoln was one America’s greatest presidents.

Wasn’t “almost” for me.

Say it ain’t so, Rand.

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Sophlady July 13, 2013 at 11:15 am

Didn’t the Great Emancipator tuck in freeing and making eligible for citizenship four million folks enslaved in the South when he wasn’t busy otherwise?

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hack July 11, 2013 at 12:11 pm

Rand sure as shit ain’t his pops. I almost threw up in my mouth a little when he said Lincoln was one America’s greatest presidents. It is certainly ironic a man trying to defend an accusation of racism against a staffer brings up Lincoln, as if to attempt to appease those who are still under the misinformation that Lincoln was the great slavery slayer (not vampires). All Lincoln did was kill between 600,000 and 750,000 humans unnecessarily, destroy state sovereignty as well as the Constitution, and enslave us all to perpetual debt serfdom that has resulted from his ushering in of the United States imperial age.

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nitrat July 11, 2013 at 4:31 pm

fascist brownshirt
…we don’t say it enough.

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9"(suck it,lick the precum ) July 12, 2013 at 1:05 am

Lincoln is also,in ,The Guinness Book of World Records for sucking more dick than any other president,which is a somewhat arbitrarily recognized accomplishment ,now,seeing as how people were still ‘small’,and evolving ,back then.The Civil War was not about slavery,it was about dick.

DEVO had it right,all along

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goV57pGmiCk

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 12, 2013 at 10:09 am

Rand sure as shit ain’t his pops. I almost threw up in my mouth a little when he said Lincoln was one America’s greatest presidents.

Wasn’t “almost” for me.

Say it ain’t so, Rand.

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Sophlady July 13, 2013 at 11:15 am

Didn’t the Great Emancipator tuck in freeing and making eligible for citizenship four million folks enslaved in the South when he wasn’t busy otherwise?

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Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 12:24 pm

Um, no. That would be the white folks that bend over backwards to say African American and that only African Americans can be discriminated against, and then go home and say ‘…blah blah blah, nigger this, blah blah nigger that’.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are only racists, not implicitly racist.

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GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 12:25 pm

Hey FITS: Why doesn’t Obama, your god-and-savior, LEAD???…instead of you trying to erase the opposition.

Thank GOD we have Rand Paul in the Senate, to get the word out…and influence the House. With him, Tim Scott and Trey Gowdy we’re blaocking Obama to some extent. Hofully we get better numbers after 2014, and we can bide our time til 2016….
Let’s hope we BLOCK you, too.

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Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 12:27 pm

Good gravy, I have no idea why I defend you sometimes. Especially when you come out with random crap like this.

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GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 2:41 pm

Did you look at the voting data???..or, are you just talking out of FITS-type, cliche ignorance again????

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Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 2:54 pm

Sic is not pro Oshithead. He consistently calls him an asshole.

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Sarah Plin Forever! July 11, 2013 at 3:46 pm

More BS from Pytel!T has been spouting this line forever!Just noticing it?

Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 4:11 pm

nope

GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 4:17 pm

What FITS claims and what he does, are two different things…
A lot of moderates are like that: See McCain and Graham.

Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 4:22 pm

He hates McPain and Grahmnesty as well? WTF?

GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 4:38 pm

FITS still has not gotten over the TOTAL Gutting Warren Tompkins performed on McCain in 2000…Google FITS and Warren Tompkins…
PS: Fronk: you seem to to be very eaily fooled by the corrupt… (see FITS)….
It’s why you should not be voting. FITS can dupe you into voting FOR exactly what you claim to be against…That is the best the left can do right now, because Obama has been such a F*#* up.
They make the simple-minded think THEY ALL do it…when in reality, if the GOP did not have The House, and act like Republicans, we’d be even worse off than Obama has us…

Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 4:42 pm

What’s the name of the Conservative I should vote for T?

Crooner July 11, 2013 at 1:20 pm

Rest assured your beloved party will block all the way to President Democrat in 2016.

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GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 1:47 pm

If you don’t run a Black Candidate, you’ll lose. Your base will vote in droves on your Race Hate. Otherwise, you’re John Kerry, except w/ Obama’s mess dragging him/her down……..

Especially if we FINALLY get a Conservative as the nominee for the GOP…..

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Mark July 11, 2013 at 12:40 pm

Well the guy and his dad always surround themselves with people as crazy and unprofessional as they are, so this isn’t too surprising.

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GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 2:23 pm

Do you work for them????

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9" July 12, 2013 at 12:47 am

Do you ya’ll remember Rand’s band?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z2M_hpoPwk

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Mark July 11, 2013 at 12:40 pm

Well the guy and his dad always surround themselves with people as crazy and unprofessional as they are, so this isn’t too surprising.

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9" July 12, 2013 at 12:47 am

Do you ya’ll remember Rand’s band?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z2M_hpoPwk

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GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 1:48 pm

Character Meter: Rand Paul vs FITS…
Need anymore be said???

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lawzoo July 11, 2013 at 1:48 pm

Ayn Rand Paul really must not want to be POTUS. He is certainly laying a foundation
more firm that Mitt the Twit’s excuse.

A family vote would be unanimous I guess.

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lawzoo July 11, 2013 at 1:48 pm

Ayn Rand Paul really must not want to be POTUS. He is certainly laying a foundation
more firm that Mitt the Twit’s excuse.

A family vote would be unanimous I guess.

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Finius Nullis July 11, 2013 at 2:03 pm

Following GrandTango’s example of posting something having no relationship to the main article:

Edward Snowden (according to speculation) may be planning his escape from Moscow by shipping himself as “cargo” via FedEx.

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nitrat July 11, 2013 at 4:29 pm

But, aren’t you happy with his Lincoln avatar?
Never again does anyone have to slip up and start reading on of his posts!

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Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 4:43 pm

Source?

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Finius Nullis July 11, 2013 at 6:50 pm

Can’t find the article from this morning – other than being a stowaway on a commercial or private plane, other options mentioned were on military or diplomatic planes, and the possibility of escaping on a FedEx plane was mentioned.

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Finius Nullis July 11, 2013 at 6:54 pm

goofy thought — possibly disguised as Tom Hanks (Castaway-?)

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Finius Nullis July 11, 2013 at 2:03 pm

Following GrandTango’s example of posting something having no relationship to the main article:

Edward Snowden (according to speculation) may be planning his escape from Moscow by shipping himself as “cargo” via FedEx.

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nitrat July 11, 2013 at 4:29 pm

But, aren’t you happy with his Lincoln avatar?
Never again does anyone have to slip up and start reading on of his posts!

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Frank Pytel July 11, 2013 at 4:43 pm

Source?

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Finius Nullis July 11, 2013 at 6:50 pm

Can’t find the article from this morning – other than being a stowaway on a commercial or private plane, other options mentioned were on military or diplomatic planes, and the possibility of escaping on a FedEx plane was mentioned.

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Finius Nullis July 11, 2013 at 6:54 pm

goofy thought — possibly disguised as Tom Hanks (Castaway-?)

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GrandTango July 11, 2013 at 4:09 pm

FITS’ god-Obama proved to be as false as I told you over and over.
Now you have to laugh as this Ignorant son of a b!*#h flailing away at anyone he can. FITS is trying to hide the fact that I was DEAD-ON Right, and he is a F*#kin idiot..
Not only that: All FITS stupid minions are facing an @$$-kicking for Sheheen..

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Jack Is A Psychopath July 11, 2013 at 5:02 pm

Paul is a fool.

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Sophlady July 13, 2013 at 11:21 am

But, a very ambitious fool.

He stands no chance of being elected. Still, it is interesting to see how cozy GOP pols are with white supremacists like Jack Hunter. Provides evidence why expanding the party from its 90% white base is pretty much impossible.

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Jack Is A Psychopath July 11, 2013 at 5:02 pm

Paul is a fool.

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Sophlady July 13, 2013 at 11:21 am

But, a very ambitious fool.

He stands no chance of being elected. Still, it is interesting to see how cozy GOP pols are with white supremacists like Jack Hunter. Provides evidence why expanding the party from its 90% white base is pretty much impossible.

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This just in . . . July 11, 2013 at 5:44 pm

Texas Weighs Ban on Women

AUSTIN (The Borowitz Report) — Republican lawmakers in the Texas State Senate are proposing a precedent-setting new bill that would make it illegal for women to live in the state.

Senator Harland Dorrinson, one of the many pro-life lawmakers backing the woman ban, crafted his bill after witnessing Senator Wendy Davis filibuster an anti-abortion bill last month.

“That was our moment to say, ‘Enough is enough,’” he said. “This comes down to a choice between life and women, and we choose life.”

Senator Dorrinson said his bill would call for a twenty-foot woman-proof fence to be constructed along the borders of the state.

“Women are great at talking, but not at climbing,” he observed.

But another G.O.P. state senator, Cal Jamson, believes that the total ban on women goes “too far” and is proposing a less draconian bill that would allow some women to remain in the state as guest workers.

“Texas needs women to cook, clean, and cheerlead,” he said. “If they show that they can do those things and stay out of politics, there could be a pathway to citizenship.”

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This just in . . . July 11, 2013 at 5:44 pm

Texas Weighs Ban on Women

AUSTIN (The Borowitz Report) — Republican lawmakers in the Texas State Senate are proposing a precedent-setting new bill that would make it illegal for women to live in the state.

Senator Harland Dorrinson, one of the many pro-life lawmakers backing the woman ban, crafted his bill after witnessing Senator Wendy Davis filibuster an anti-abortion bill last month.

“That was our moment to say, ‘Enough is enough,’” he said. “This comes down to a choice between life and women, and we choose life.”

Senator Dorrinson said his bill would call for a twenty-foot woman-proof fence to be constructed along the borders of the state.

“Women are great at talking, but not at climbing,” he observed.

But another G.O.P. state senator, Cal Jamson, believes that the total ban on women goes “too far” and is proposing a less draconian bill that would allow some women to remain in the state as guest workers.

“Texas needs women to cook, clean, and cheerlead,” he said. “If they show that they can do those things and stay out of politics, there could be a pathway to citizenship.”

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MashPotato July 11, 2013 at 5:53 pm

Jack Hunter is a great guy with a strong personality. Hypersensitive finger-pointers are the only reason this is news. These people are the real bigots, because they believe racists are lower than everyone else. And they’re quick to apply the label to anyone they don’t agree with. Why don’t they focus their rage towards the most grievous crime against minorities, the war on drugs?

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MashPotato July 11, 2013 at 5:53 pm

Jack Hunter is a great guy with a strong personality. Hypersensitive finger-pointers are the only reason this is news. These people are the real bigots, because they believe racists are lower than everyone else. And they’re quick to apply the label to anyone they don’t agree with. Why don’t they focus their rage towards the most grievous crime against minorities, the war on drugs?

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Derp July 11, 2013 at 8:46 pm

Wow! This guy is the ‘sane’ republican choice for president in 2016? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Good lord, when exactly did the republican party get so absolutely retarded?

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Derp July 11, 2013 at 8:46 pm

Wow! This guy is the ‘sane’ republican choice for president in 2016? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Good lord, when exactly did the republican party get so absolutely retarded?

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SomalianRoadCorp July 13, 2013 at 3:56 pm

I always find it amusing that “progressives” will gladly team up with neo-conservatives like the WFB and Bill Kristol to attack Rand Paul….because they know whats best for Republicans.

And what exactly is “wrong” with secession? Its an international principle of self-determination, currently seen in Catalonia, Scotland, etc.

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SomalianRoadCorp July 13, 2013 at 3:56 pm

I always find it amusing that “progressives” will gladly team up with neo-conservatives like the WFB and Bill Kristol to attack Rand Paul….because they know whats best for Republicans.

And what exactly is “wrong” with secession? Its an international principle of self-determination, currently seen in Catalonia, Scotland, etc.

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