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The Argument Against Mark Sanford

Earlier this week we addressed what we see as the primary argument against supporting trial lawyer Curtis Bostic in the Republican runoff for the first congressional district. Was it the fact he doesn’t live in the district he seeks to represent? No. Was it his questionable association with an “adoption”…

Earlier this week we addressed what we see as the primary argument against supporting trial lawyer Curtis Bostic in the Republican runoff for the first congressional district.

Was it the fact he doesn’t live in the district he seeks to represent? No.

Was it his questionable association with an “adoption” service accused of human trafficking? No.

Was it his record of supporting disproportionately large spending increases as a member of Charleston County council? No … not exactly.

Our fear is that Bostic – were he to remain true to his big government roots as a member of Congress – would spark a fundamental shift in the ideological direction of South Carolina’s GOP congressional delegation. Specifically, we think he would provide cover for newly elected U.S. Rep. Tom Rice to start voting with the fiscally liberal GOP establishment – which would in turn permit U.S. Rep. Joe Wilson (who has shifted to the fiscal right in the last three years) to return to his establishment GOP roots.

Obviously that would be a terrible development …

But what about Bostic’s opponent? Former S.C. Gov. Mark Sanford? What’s the argument against Republicans choosing him as their nominee for this seat?

Well … aside from the obvious.

The best argument we’ve heard (and the one the Bostic people are making feverishly) is that a vote for Sanford is a vote for Democratic nominee Elizabeth Colbert-Busch.

In other words, the only way Republicans could possibly lose this seat would be if they nominated a scandal-scarred former governor who lied to his state, his staff and his family about his whereabouts while pursuing an extramarital affair – an affair he wasted tax money in pursuing. Oh, and then dragged everybody through months of seemingly interminable narcissism as he desperately fought to save his job.

Yeah …

Bostic’s argument has merit … assuming you’re a partisan.

Colbert-Busch is indeed a credible Democratic opponent – one with money and celebrity support (from her famous brother). Accordingly a head-to-head matchup against Sanford affords her a legitimate shot at victory. However winning an election in a heavily GOP district against a largely unknown Republican – even one with as much baggage as Bostic – is a far less likely proposition.

There’s no denying this point … Bostic gives “Republicans” better odds of a special election victory in May than Sanford does.

As we’ve already noted, though, we don’t accept this argument as having much merit given Bostic’s demonstrated fiscal liberalism. Seriously … what’s the point of electing Republicans if they vote like Democrats? And while Colbert-Busch is indeed more likely to beat Sanford than Bostic … she faces an uphill climb in both hypothetical match-ups.

Still, expect Bostic’s campaign to continue aggressively promoting this narrative over the next two weeks …

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86 comments

Former supporter March 22, 2013 at 9:41 am

I would not piss on this SOB, were he on fire!

He is a proven liar and a cheat. How could the voters ever trust him?

He lied and cheated his wife and children, the very people who should be able to trust him unconditionally!
The only good thing he did was prevent a bigger liar, cheat and SOB (Bob Peeler) from ever being Governor.

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CNN outtake March 24, 2013 at 12:17 am

Sanford: Gotten any pussy lately?

Old man: Pussy? You mean my cat? Like did I feed my cat?

Sanford: No, I mean female sex. Copulation. Fucking. Sex with women.

Old man: You’re kidding. I thought you came in to ask about business.

Sanford: OK, talk about your business, then let’s talk pussy. Pussy and old tractors: those are things I really care about.

Old man: Well I’ve got a tractor…

Sanford: Outstanding, my man, let’s take a look at your tractor. Is it a John Deere? Got implements? Diesel? (I can always find a way to bond with the people.)

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Former supporter March 22, 2013 at 9:41 am

I would not piss on this SOB, were he on fire!

He is a proven liar and a cheat. How could the voters ever trust him?

He lied and cheated his wife and children, the very people who should be able to trust him unconditionally!
The only good thing he did was prevent a bigger liar, cheat and SOB (Bob Peeler) from ever being Governor.

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CNN outtake March 24, 2013 at 12:17 am

Sanford: Gotten any pussy lately?

Old man: Pussy? You mean my cat? Like did I feed my cat?

Sanford: No, I mean female sex. Copulation. Fucking. Sex with women.

Old man: You’re kidding. I thought you came in to ask about business.

Sanford: OK, talk about your business, then let’s talk pussy. Pussy and old tractors: those are things I really care about.

Old man: Well I’ve got a tractor…

Sanford: Outstanding, my man, let’s take a look at your tractor. Is it a John Deere? Got implements? Diesel? (I can always find a way to bond with the people.)

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Smirks March 22, 2013 at 10:08 am

If you had 16 people to choose from and you still chose Mark Sanford, there’s no saving you. I’m sorry, but this guy is an enormous hypocrite that should’ve taken the advice he gave Bill Clinton regarding his affair.

Bostic seems like a bad choice and I honestly don’t know much about Colbert-Busch but for the love of god, SC, pull your head out of your ass and send this clown back to digging holes with his backhoe with his Appalachian Trail mistress.

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southmauldin March 22, 2013 at 10:56 am

It’s OK. He has an R by his name. He’s a shoo-in. Even the resident troll would vote for him in the general, despite his continual rants against him.

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SparkleCity March 23, 2013 at 10:49 pm

God Bless you Smirks………

But sadly both you and I know that that Sanford will probably win

Sadly that speaks volumes about the electorate (who vote – mainly the party faithful) get turds like that shirking SOB Sanford in office.

Maybe someone ought to ask the veterans of Sanford’s Air Evacuation Squadron based in Charleston what they think about his sorry ass.

They deployed while Sanford found every way imaginable to keep from going himself

But the blind supporters of his sorry ass are just like Clinton’s supporters…He can do no wrong as long as he does the job they “think” he is doing.

No difference in the two groups whatsoever

That said, you are solid gold in my book!!!

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Smirks March 22, 2013 at 10:08 am

If you had 16 people to choose from and you still chose Mark Sanford, there’s no saving you. I’m sorry, but this guy is an enormous hypocrite that should’ve taken the advice he gave Bill Clinton regarding his affair.

Bostic seems like a bad choice and I honestly don’t know much about Colbert-Busch but for the love of god, SC, pull your head out of your ass and send this clown back to digging holes with his backhoe with his Appalachian Trail mistress.

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southmauldin March 22, 2013 at 10:56 am

It’s OK. He has an R by his name. He’s a shoo-in. Even the resident troll would vote for him in the general, despite his continual rants against him.

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SparkleCity March 23, 2013 at 10:49 pm

God Bless you Smirks………

But sadly both you and I know that that Sanford will probably win

Sadly that speaks volumes about the electorate (who vote – mainly the party faithful) get turds like that shirking SOB Sanford in office.

Maybe someone ought to ask the veterans of Sanford’s Air Evacuation Squadron based in Charleston what they think about his sorry ass.

They deployed while Sanford found every way imaginable to keep from going himself

But the blind supporters of his sorry ass are just like Clinton’s supporters…He can do no wrong as long as he does the job they “think” he is doing.

No difference in the two groups whatsoever

That said, you are solid gold in my book!!!

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nitrat March 22, 2013 at 10:18 am

Bostic has an easy job. Based on Mark’s ads, there are 19,100/37% of the voters in the first district who bought into the ads that he was a good governor and fiscally conservative in the Congress.
Bostic’s team needs to check out the Legislative Audit Council’s website and read up on the reports pertaining to Sanford’s cabinet agencies while he was governor up to the present . These examples of Sanford’s executive incompetence are all right there. Even the scandals of incompetent management that have exploded in SCDOR, SCDOT, etc. are the result of festering for 8 years of Sanfaord mismanagement. That will provide all the cold, hard evidence that all but the stupidest of SCGOP voters.
Then, they need to check the websites that can provide them with info on Sanford’s numerous junkets while in Congress. That should put the nail in the coffin about his fiscal conservatism.
Add in the loving piece on the atheist Ayn Rand in Newsweek and his membership in The Family/The Fellowship/C Street and we can be rid of the sorry SOB permanently.

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nitrat March 22, 2013 at 10:18 am

Bostic has an easy job. Based on Mark’s ads, there are 19,100/37% of the voters in the first district who bought into the ads that he was a good governor and fiscally conservative in the Congress.
Bostic’s team needs to check out the Legislative Audit Council’s website and read up on the reports pertaining to Sanford’s cabinet agencies while he was governor up to the present . These examples of Sanford’s executive incompetence are all right there. Even the scandals of incompetent management that have exploded in SCDOR, SCDOT, etc. are the result of festering for 8 years of Sanfaord mismanagement. That will provide all the cold, hard evidence that all but the stupidest of SCGOP voters.
Then, they need to check the websites that can provide them with info on Sanford’s numerous junkets while in Congress. That should put the nail in the coffin about his fiscal conservatism.
Add in the loving piece on the atheist Ayn Rand in Newsweek and his membership in The Family/The Fellowship/C Street and we can be rid of the sorry SOB permanently.

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Caleb on JI March 22, 2013 at 10:24 am

Smirks, you nailed it. He called on Clinton to resign, but then did things far worse than Clinton did, and refused to follow his own advice. What a hypocrite.

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Mark March 22, 2013 at 12:29 pm

Of course Sanford’s a hypocrite. But consider the alternative. Bostic is the equivalent of Jerry Fallwell, Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed rolled up.

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nomoomglo March 22, 2013 at 2:00 pm

Cannot tolerate any of these three men,but will take all three over Sanford.

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Up side in near & maybe long March 22, 2013 at 3:32 pm

For a 2 year term, I’m not sure Bostic would do much damage, while Sanford has the potential to do more damage than good to conservatives, and fiscal ones at that.

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Caleb on JI March 22, 2013 at 10:24 am

Smirks, you nailed it. He called on Clinton to resign, but then did things far worse than Clinton did, and refused to follow his own advice. What a hypocrite.

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Mark March 22, 2013 at 12:29 pm

Of course Sanford’s a hypocrite. But consider the alternative. Bostic is the equivalent of Jerry Fallwell, Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed rolled up.

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nomoomglo March 22, 2013 at 2:00 pm

Cannot tolerate any of these three men,but will take all three over Sanford.

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Up side in near & maybe long March 22, 2013 at 3:32 pm

For a 2 year term, I’m not sure Bostic would do much damage, while Sanford has the potential to do more damage than good to conservatives, and fiscal ones at that.

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shifty henry March 22, 2013 at 10:56 am

Not that it really matters to anybody, but today is officially —–

—– National Goof-Off Day

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shifty henry March 22, 2013 at 10:56 am

Not that it really matters to anybody, but today is officially —–

—– National Goof-Off Day

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Leadership not Infamy March 22, 2013 at 11:11 am

In response to Thomas:

Almost 2/3 of the people who came out for the primary said “NO” to Sanford.
He might be a tightwad but under stress and due to his temperament or sense of
entitlement, we know how he can “bend the rules.” Further, he is vulnerable on many fronts to deal making and coercion or dare I say blackmail because of his history both known and unknown by the public.
He CAN NOT hit the ground running “coalescing” and leading as both Republicans and Democrats alike are not eager to associate with him. He will spend the next 2 years or more trying to reinvent the wheel and get an audience. We know what happened the last time he was rebuffed and rejected.
Look how the other fiscally conservative house members who don’t have his past and have read the same books and have run their own businesses, scramble to make legitimate points and be heard.
With his ambition, however he might be masking it at the moment, he has never given up the hope of retaking the ground lost due to his scandal. The Apology and Redemption Tours, appearances on national TV, formalizing his relationship via press releases and pictures with his former mistress, the “never say never” spiel was calculated and all about his return. He could have done all privately in consideration of his family and gone on with his life. A friend and fellow college cheerleader stated on the night of the primary that we should all “get over it” because we all “sh%t in our pants” at one point or another. But few of us would parade around with our sodden diaper. He feels Sanford has integrity and this was really the only thing he was good at…. A ringing endorsement! Even his eldest son, on the night of the primary stated that he felt it was inevitable that his father would run for office again!
We may not think he is Presidential material, but he doesn’t share that sentiment. Also, I believe when questioned recently about his return to politics he would not commit to term limits.
“Even Democrats know he can balance the budget.” Democrats welcome the obstacles he presents and the target he is, if he ever tried. The Democrats don’t want a
Republican balancing the budget

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Leadership not Infamy March 22, 2013 at 11:11 am

In response to Thomas:

Almost 2/3 of the people who came out for the primary said “NO” to Sanford.
He might be a tightwad but under stress and due to his temperament or sense of
entitlement, we know how he can “bend the rules.” Further, he is vulnerable on many fronts to deal making and coercion or dare I say blackmail because of his history both known and unknown by the public.
He CAN NOT hit the ground running “coalescing” and leading as both Republicans and Democrats alike are not eager to associate with him. He will spend the next 2 years or more trying to reinvent the wheel and get an audience. We know what happened the last time he was rebuffed and rejected.
Look how the other fiscally conservative house members who don’t have his past and have read the same books and have run their own businesses, scramble to make legitimate points and be heard.
With his ambition, however he might be masking it at the moment, he has never given up the hope of retaking the ground lost due to his scandal. The Apology and Redemption Tours, appearances on national TV, formalizing his relationship via press releases and pictures with his former mistress, the “never say never” spiel was calculated and all about his return. He could have done all privately in consideration of his family and gone on with his life. A friend and fellow college cheerleader stated on the night of the primary that we should all “get over it” because we all “sh%t in our pants” at one point or another. But few of us would parade around with our sodden diaper. He feels Sanford has integrity and this was really the only thing he was good at…. A ringing endorsement! Even his eldest son, on the night of the primary stated that he felt it was inevitable that his father would run for office again!
We may not think he is Presidential material, but he doesn’t share that sentiment. Also, I believe when questioned recently about his return to politics he would not commit to term limits.
“Even Democrats know he can balance the budget.” Democrats welcome the obstacles he presents and the target he is, if he ever tried. The Democrats don’t want a
Republican balancing the budget

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shifty henry March 22, 2013 at 11:15 am

BigT, Miss Coulter called me to express her thanks for your loyal following and support of her ideas. She wanted me to pass on to you this photo of her in a Confederate bikini, which she personally made from my bandanna. In return, she gave me autographed copies of every book she has written.

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Smirks March 22, 2013 at 3:07 pm

R.I.P. my boner.

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shifty henry March 22, 2013 at 11:15 am

BigT, Miss Coulter called me to express her thanks for your loyal following and support of her ideas. She wanted me to pass on to you this photo of her in a Confederate bikini, which she personally made from my bandanna. In return, she gave me autographed copies of every book she has written.

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Smirks March 22, 2013 at 3:07 pm

R.I.P. my boner.

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MBC March 22, 2013 at 11:44 am

Sanford is a hypocrite and I’ve heard many people in Charleston say that they will vote for Busch rather than Sanford.If Sanfod wins I think Busch can take it.

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MBC March 22, 2013 at 11:44 am

Sanford is a hypocrite and I’ve heard many people in Charleston say that they will vote for Busch rather than Sanford.If Sanfod wins I think Busch can take it.

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BigT March 22, 2013 at 11:58 am

FITS runs a picture of the disgraced Sanford, talking w/ a Respectable gentleman, and then proceeds to run down Bostic some more..in his reasons to NOT VOTE for Mark Sanford…
I’d vote AGAINST Sanford just based on the fact FITS is another Insider LIAR….pushed by Sanford’s Big Money….
I am Glad to see FITS in a Panic. It may mean Bostic has a chance of ridding us of the Embarrassmanrt Sanford is…
PS: Google Ann Coulter, Mark Sanford Loser

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Isotope Soap March 22, 2013 at 1:01 pm

I googled Ann Coulter, Bigums, and got this:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ann%20coulter

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Buzz March 22, 2013 at 2:10 pm

Read her actual biography on Widipedia. Her career is based on slamming everything. So Sanford made her list..

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Sanford, as easy target March 22, 2013 at 3:26 pm

Ann Coulter is a satirist, just like Bill Maher in reverse. Finding ironies and calling things like she sees it through her prism is what she does.

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BigT March 22, 2013 at 2:54 pm

I doubt it did you much good for you to read it, IS. From what I’ve seen of you, you are a “cut and paste” liberal idiot guy. If it’s not spoon -fed and cliche..you’re too F*$kin Stupid to get it. I’d imagine Ann Coulter is WAY over your head…
Stick to FITS…He tells you things that are easy for the Ignorant to believe..like Mark Sanford is Good for SC..and you’re just the level of F*#king Dumb@$$ to buy it…obviously…

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Isotope Soap March 22, 2013 at 4:22 pm

Hey, Douche! Don’t recall ever liking Sanford, but certainly not givng a shit what that bitch says either way. I find it so funny you bend over a barrel over what that tart and others like her(you) espouse. Her, Rush, and you keep giving us great entertainment nonetheless. Rock it, T, It’s the motherfucking weekend!

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John Duncan March 23, 2013 at 12:14 pm

So you would vote for Sanford’s Democrat opponent in a general election knowing full well that it’s a vote for Nancy Pelosi and the liberal Democrat agenda in Congress? I don’t believe you and no conservative in that district will support her over him because they know it’s a vote for Pelosi so this argument that he would be vulnerable is stupid. He won’t be.

Sanford can also raise the required money and has the backing of the Koch brothers, his opponent cannot. raise a dime

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annfair March 23, 2013 at 2:07 pm

Over Sanford,yes.

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BigT March 22, 2013 at 11:58 am

FITS runs a picture of the disgraced Sanford, talking w/ a Respectable gentleman, and then proceeds to run down Bostic some more..in his reasons to NOT VOTE for Mark Sanford…
I’d vote AGAINST Sanford just based on the fact FITS is another Insider LIAR….pushed by Sanford’s Big Money….
I am Glad to see FITS in a Panic. It may mean Bostic has a chance of ridding us of the Embarrassmanrt Sanford is…
PS: Google Ann Coulter, Mark Sanford Loser

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John Boy March 22, 2013 at 1:01 pm

I googled Ann Coulter, Bigums, and got this:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ann%20coulter

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Buzz March 22, 2013 at 2:10 pm

Read her actual biography on Widipedia. Her career is based on slamming everything. So Sanford made her list..

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Sanford, as easy target March 22, 2013 at 3:26 pm

Ann Coulter is a satirist, just like Bill Maher in reverse. Finding ironies and calling things like she sees it through her prism is what she does.

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BigT March 22, 2013 at 2:54 pm

I doubt it did you much good for you to read it, IS. From what I’ve seen of you, you are a “cut and paste” liberal idiot guy. If it’s not spoon -fed and cliche..you’re too F*$kin Stupid to get it. I’d imagine Ann Coulter is WAY over your head…
Stick to FITS…He tells you things that are easy for the Ignorant to believe..like Mark Sanford is Good for SC..and you’re just the level of F*#king Dumb@$$ to buy it…obviously…

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John Boy March 22, 2013 at 4:22 pm

Hey, Douche! Don’t recall ever liking Sanford, but certainly not givng a shit what that bitch says either way. I find it so funny you bend over a barrel over what that tart and others like her(you) espouse. Her, Rush, and you keep giving us great entertainment nonetheless. Rock it, T, It’s the motherfucking weekend!

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John Duncan March 23, 2013 at 12:14 pm

So you would vote for Sanford’s Democrat opponent in a general election knowing full well that it’s a vote for Nancy Pelosi and the liberal Democrat agenda in Congress? I don’t believe you and no conservative in that district will support her over him because they know it’s a vote for Pelosi so this argument that he would be vulnerable is stupid. He won’t be.

Sanford can also raise the required money and has the backing of the Koch brothers, his opponent cannot. raise a dime

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annfair March 23, 2013 at 2:07 pm

Over Sanford,yes.

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You know me March 22, 2013 at 12:00 pm

Isn’t Larry Stiles the bankruptcy trustee for CWA?

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You know me March 22, 2013 at 12:00 pm

Isn’t Larry Stiles the bankruptcy trustee for CWA?

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Pick -Une? March 22, 2013 at 12:13 pm

We know his fiancee lives at times, has family, friends, business, and probably real estate in Argentina. We have heard rumors that Sanford has real estate, maybe even a ranch in Argentina, and who knows what business dealings in Argentina. Is he willing to confirm or deny those things to build trust and transparency to his candidacy? Afterall, he may be apportioning time and attention there, and in DC rather than SC-1, in addition to balancing his first family duties. Of course, if you are of the belief that the engagement is all part of a ruse to aid them in reestablishing their careers, it is all moot point.

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Buzz March 22, 2013 at 2:13 pm

Doubt if he has property in Argentina unless it is under MBC’s name. If he did, could it be land around the oil fields? Just wondering.

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Pick -Une? March 22, 2013 at 12:13 pm

We know his fiancee lives at times, has family, friends, business, and probably real estate in Argentina. We have heard rumors that Sanford has real estate, maybe even a ranch in Argentina, and who knows what business dealings in Argentina. Is he willing to confirm or deny those things to build trust and transparency to his candidacy? Afterall, he may be apportioning time and attention there, and in DC rather than SC-1, in addition to balancing his first family duties. Of course, if you are of the belief that the engagement is all part of a ruse to aid them in reestablishing their careers, it is all moot point.

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Buzz March 22, 2013 at 2:13 pm

Doubt if he has property in Argentina unless it is under MBC’s name. If he did, could it be land around the oil fields? Just wondering.

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ELCID March 22, 2013 at 1:06 pm

Remember the last time Sanford was in Congress????

It was a disaster. He was Congressman “MOON-BEAM.”

Sanford is nuts, his ideas are nuts, and he even created Nicky Haley.

Plus, he’s from the Sullivan’s Island crowd. A group of people who look at you and the rest of SC as the “Little Insignificant People.” Neither Sanford, or his X Wife, ever gave a hoot about the vast majority of SC Citizens. Just themselves and their “South of Broad Street,” Buddies.

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nitrat March 23, 2013 at 10:48 am

Does that include Thomas Ravenel and his coke parties?

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ELCID March 22, 2013 at 1:06 pm

Remember the last time Sanford was in Congress????

It was a disaster. He was Congressman “MOON-BEAM.”

Sanford is nuts, his ideas are nuts, and he even created Nicky Haley.

Plus, he’s from the Sullivan’s Island crowd. A group of people who look at you and the rest of SC as the “Little Insignificant People.” Neither Sanford, or his X Wife, ever gave a hoot about the vast majority of SC Citizens. Just themselves and their “South of Broad Street,” Buddies.

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nitrat March 23, 2013 at 10:48 am

Does that include Thomas Ravenel and his coke parties?

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lawzoo March 22, 2013 at 1:40 pm

A couple of pigs are ready to squeal . He wasn’t worth a shit as Goobernor. He was very idealogical. Good for him.

Ideology doesn’t govern. Idealism hit the fan.South Carolina suffered for it. We are continuing to suffer.

Not to mention the Appalachian Trail is NOT in South Carolina. Neither is Argentina.

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lawzoo March 22, 2013 at 1:40 pm

A couple of pigs are ready to squeal . He wasn’t worth a shit as Goobernor. He was very idealogical. Good for him.

Ideology doesn’t govern. Idealism hit the fan.South Carolina suffered for it. We are continuing to suffer.

Not to mention the Appalachian Trail is NOT in South Carolina. Neither is Argentina.

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narcissistic man March 22, 2013 at 2:11 pm

Should Sanford win he will spend all of his time in the air.DC during the week and SA for the weekends. No time left for SC or his boys.He has finally taken time to spend with his sons.He doesn’t need to go back into politics.Matters not what kind of cover he tries to put on the book …….fact is he’s selfish.He’s using his boys now to win the election,just so he can desert them again.

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narcissistic man March 22, 2013 at 2:11 pm

Should Sanford win he will spend all of his time in the air.DC during the week and SA for the weekends. No time left for SC or his boys.He has finally taken time to spend with his sons.He doesn’t need to go back into politics.Matters not what kind of cover he tries to put on the book …….fact is he’s selfish.He’s using his boys now to win the election,just so he can desert them again.

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lowcorider March 22, 2013 at 3:27 pm

Sanford’s dick is the needle of his moral compass. And yes feel free to use this.

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Lowcorider March 22, 2013 at 3:27 pm

Sanford’s dick is the needle of his moral compass. And yes feel free to use this.

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James Fleming Jr March 22, 2013 at 7:45 pm

If Republicans are as stupid as you indicate they need to fold their tents!

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James Fleming Jr March 22, 2013 at 7:45 pm

If Republicans are as stupid as you indicate they need to fold their tents!

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mike traynor March 23, 2013 at 12:13 am

Actually, Sanford DID NOT call on Clinton to resign. He was strangely absent and remained low key during that time. I spoke with him about this and he said he had bigger battles to fight. In hindsight, he had no standing to take on Clinton.

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Were we all duped? March 23, 2013 at 10:33 am

Sanford seemed to be caught up in the “lying about it” aspect of the Clinton-Lewinsky affair but I think he did vote for impeachment, no? He said something about Clinton having a reputation for being a “rascal” so he could get away with it more so than other politicians. It’s sad to say, but maybe back then Sanford already had a couple of line-crossings under his belt, and he was beginning to moderate his views on adultery. Now he himself has a reputation as rascal/cad so he’s all set for his second go-round in DC. No expectations of morality there….

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Sanford the hypocrite March 23, 2013 at 2:03 pm

Sanford said about Clinton “if a man will lie and cheat about something as scared as marriage ,how can you trust him about anything else”.I agree with Mark Sanford…..By the way,Sanford wants your vote, so he’s pretty much going to tell you what you want to hear when it comes to his cheating.

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mike traynor March 23, 2013 at 12:13 am

Actually, Sanford DID NOT call on Clinton to resign. He was strangely absent and remained low key during that time. I spoke with him about this and he said he had bigger battles to fight. In hindsight, he had no standing to take on Clinton.

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Were we all duped? March 23, 2013 at 10:33 am

Sanford seemed to be caught up in the “lying about it” aspect of the Clinton-Lewinsky affair but I think he did vote for impeachment, no? He said something about Clinton having a reputation for being a “rascal” so he could get away with it more so than other politicians. It’s sad to say, but maybe back then Sanford already had a couple of line-crossings under his belt, and he was beginning to moderate his views on adultery. Now he himself has a reputation as rascal/cad so he’s all set for his second go-round in DC. No expectations of morality there….

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Sanford the hypocrite March 23, 2013 at 2:03 pm

Sanford said about Clinton “if a man will lie and cheat about something as scared as marriage ,how can you trust him about anything else”.I agree with Mark Sanford…..By the way,Sanford wants your vote, so he’s pretty much going to tell you what you want to hear when it comes to his cheating.

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Perry DeVaux March 24, 2013 at 8:23 am

Post / Courier:

Sanford grew up in southern Florida. His father, Marshall C. Sanford Sr., was a successful cardiologist at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore before moving his family to southern Florida.

The elder Sanford, who grew up in the Depression, also bought 3,000 acres on Chisolm Island in Beaufort County and began to raise cattle, corn, wheat and soybeans there.

The family spent their childhood vacations and holidays in South Carolina, helping out on the farm.

Sanford recalls baling hay as a thunderstorm approached, he and his siblings anxious about whether they could finish before the rain.

“We were convinced our next meal was dependent on whether we got that last bale of hay,” he said. “We weren’t poor, but he made us think we were.”

The hard work also included days spent left alone, with nothing but a packed lunch, a thermos of ice water, a tractor, a bush hog and dozens of acres of grass to cut. His father was instilling in him a work ethic, but also giving him a lot of freedom, as the young Sanford essentially was left alone all day.

Sanford’s life in Florida was more normal, and his father attended all of Mark’s cross-country meets. Sanford finished 13th in the state and was setting his eyes on becoming No. 1 when a tragic turn would make that goal seem rather unimportant.

His father was diagnosed with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis — the fatal nerve condition known as Lou Gehrig’s disease. His family moved to the farm to live out his final months.

Marshall Sr. refused his children’s aid while walking to his bulldozer, one of the few tasks he could still perform on the farm as his condition worsened. He fell down on the way there.

“When he fell, he fell like a tree. He couldn’t put his arms out to break his fall, and he would get dirt in his face,” Sanford said. “By the end, I’d be in tears. My brother would be in tears, yet he was so proud when he got on that bulldozer.”

When his father died, he and his brothers built his coffin.

There would be otherformative experiences pre-politics — an internship at Goldman Sachs in New York that broadened Sanford’s world view, the vigorous debates over case studies at the University of Virginia’s Darden School of Business, and going to a Renaissance Weekend event where he first heard Jim Davidson, head of the National Taxpayers Union, give an apocalyptic prediction for the nation’s fiscal future.

But those pale in comparison to his memories of what he learned working the soil in Beaufort County.

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Bearer of bad news March 24, 2013 at 10:38 am

Reads like a narrative that will accompany the video of his life and times in his Presidential Library, sans all the sticky parts. He’s trading on his father’s suffering and a part of a heroic family’s tragedy for your vote. He wants your empathy, an emotion that is foreign to him. As sad as it is, I hate to be a meany, but THIS IS CLASSIC NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER. It is manipulation.

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had his chance March 24, 2013 at 10:45 am

And grew into the man he is today….digging in the South American soil…..better known as mistress plowing.John Edwards grew up in a hard working family household,with loving parents and he’s smart enough not to run for office again.

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Carrie March 24, 2013 at 11:19 am

had and Bearer Have either you had a parent that was terminally ill while you were growing up? When one idolized his parent and watched him die a slow death that can have a lifetime effect on him. ALS is a horrible disease and it is so difficult to watch the afflicted struggle to get on with life. They stop walking, stop talking and have to be spoon fed which takes so long and there is always a panic that they will choke on you. It is really very sad.

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Bearer of bad news March 24, 2013 at 11:47 am

Carrie, Don’t mean to discount the tragedy by any means and its psychological impact on the family members. Didn’t his former wife acknowledge it in her book saying it may have driven his bad behavior because he felt he had been good for so long, and he was due some fun? And prior to that, didn’t he use this narrative when they were dating to draw her admiration? Probably did likewise with Chapur.

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Wm. Shakespeare March 24, 2013 at 1:35 pm

No disrespect to his dad, but this part is disrespectful to me, as Sanford thinks I’d believe it:

Sanford recalls baling hay as a thunderstorm approached, he and his siblings anxious about whether they could finish before the rain.

“We were convinced our next meal was dependent on whether we got that last bale of hay,” he said. “We weren’t poor, but he made us think we were.”

Cardiologists in the 60s are no different from cardiologists today – tippy-top of wage and benefits scale, so Sanford’s was (is) a millionaire family.

And the part about having to drink ice WATER from a thermos during the day, well, let’s say “Methinks he protests too much.”

Very skilled acting.

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had his chance March 24, 2013 at 1:57 pm

carrie,if John Edwards was a Republican would you vote for him? Many people have tragedy in their lives,how you handle it determines the person you are……Mark Sanford handled it by dumping on his wife,children and state…….John Edwards handled it by dumping on his wife,children and state.The fact that you’re a Sanford supporter doesn’t make Sanford any better than Edwards.

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Perry DeVaux March 24, 2013 at 8:23 am

Post / Courier:

Sanford grew up in southern Florida. His father, Marshall C. Sanford Sr., was a successful cardiologist at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore before moving his family to southern Florida.

The elder Sanford, who grew up in the Depression, also bought 3,000 acres on Chisolm Island in Beaufort County and began to raise cattle, corn, wheat and soybeans there.

The family spent their childhood vacations and holidays in South Carolina, helping out on the farm.

Sanford recalls baling hay as a thunderstorm approached, he and his siblings anxious about whether they could finish before the rain.

“We were convinced our next meal was dependent on whether we got that last bale of hay,” he said. “We weren’t poor, but he made us think we were.”

The hard work also included days spent left alone, with nothing but a packed lunch, a thermos of ice water, a tractor, a bush hog and dozens of acres of grass to cut. His father was instilling in him a work ethic, but also giving him a lot of freedom, as the young Sanford essentially was left alone all day.

Sanford’s life in Florida was more normal, and his father attended all of Mark’s cross-country meets. Sanford finished 13th in the state and was setting his eyes on becoming No. 1 when a tragic turn would make that goal seem rather unimportant.

His father was diagnosed with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis — the fatal nerve condition known as Lou Gehrig’s disease. His family moved to the farm to live out his final months.

Marshall Sr. refused his children’s aid while walking to his bulldozer, one of the few tasks he could still perform on the farm as his condition worsened. He fell down on the way there.

“When he fell, he fell like a tree. He couldn’t put his arms out to break his fall, and he would get dirt in his face,” Sanford said. “By the end, I’d be in tears. My brother would be in tears, yet he was so proud when he got on that bulldozer.”

When his father died, he and his brothers built his coffin.

There would be otherformative experiences pre-politics — an internship at Goldman Sachs in New York that broadened Sanford’s world view, the vigorous debates over case studies at the University of Virginia’s Darden School of Business, and going to a Renaissance Weekend event where he first heard Jim Davidson, head of the National Taxpayers Union, give an apocalyptic prediction for the nation’s fiscal future.

But those pale in comparison to his memories of what he learned working the soil in Beaufort County.

Reply
Bearer of bad news March 24, 2013 at 10:38 am

Reads like a narrative that will accompany the video of his life and times in his Presidential Library, sans all the sticky parts. He’s trading on his father’s suffering and a part of a heroic family’s tragedy for your vote. He wants your empathy, an emotion that is foreign to him. As sad as it is, I hate to be a meany, but THIS IS CLASSIC NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER. It is manipulation.

Reply
had his chance March 24, 2013 at 10:45 am

And grew into the man he is today….digging in the South American soil…..better known as mistress plowing.John Edwards grew up in a hard working family household,with loving parents and he’s smart enough not to run for office again.

Reply
Carrie March 24, 2013 at 11:19 am

had and Bearer Have either you had a parent that was terminally ill while you were growing up? When one idolized his parent and watched him die a slow death that can have a lifetime effect on him. ALS is a horrible disease and it is so difficult to watch the afflicted struggle to get on with life. They stop walking, stop talking and have to be spoon fed which takes so long and there is always a panic that they will choke on you. It is really very sad.

Reply
Bearer of bad news March 24, 2013 at 11:47 am

Carrie, Don’t mean to discount the tragedy by any means and its psychological impact on the family members. Didn’t his former wife acknowledge it in her book saying it may have driven his bad behavior because he felt he had been good for so long, and he was due some fun? And prior to that, didn’t he use this narrative when they were dating to draw her admiration? Probably did likewise with Chapur.

Reply
Wm. Shakespeare March 24, 2013 at 1:35 pm

No disrespect to his dad, but this part is disrespectful to me, as Sanford thinks I’d believe it:

Sanford recalls baling hay as a thunderstorm approached, he and his siblings anxious about whether they could finish before the rain.

“We were convinced our next meal was dependent on whether we got that last bale of hay,” he said. “We weren’t poor, but he made us think we were.”

Cardiologists in the 60s are no different from cardiologists today – tippy-top of wage and benefits scale, so Sanford’s was (is) a millionaire family.

And the part about having to drink ice WATER from a thermos during the day, well, let’s say “Methinks he protests too much.”

Very skilled acting.

Reply
had his chance March 24, 2013 at 1:57 pm

carrie,if John Edwards was a Republican would you vote for him? Many people have tragedy in their lives,how you handle it determines the person you are……Mark Sanford handled it by dumping on his wife,children and state…….John Edwards handled it by dumping on his wife,children and state.The fact that you’re a Sanford supporter doesn’t make Sanford any better than Edwards.

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9" March 24, 2013 at 7:50 pm

He’s a slut,bitch,whore,and looks like the scarecrow in ‘Wizard of Oz’.He’s completely ruined that movie for me…

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9" March 24, 2013 at 7:50 pm

He’s a slut,bitch,whore,and looks like the scarecrow in ‘Wizard of Oz’.He’s completely ruined that movie for me…

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