SC Breach: 3.3 Million Bank Account Numbers, Too?

IS THERE ANY DATA THAT NIKKI HALEY’S CABINET DIDN’T COUGH UP? When S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley strode to the podium nearly a month ago to inform the public about an unprecedented state-level security breach, she said any number of things … none of which have turned out to be true….


When S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley strode to the podium nearly a month ago to inform the public about an unprecedented state-level security breach, she said any number of things … none of which have turned out to be true.

Haley said nothing could have been done to stop the breach – which we now know was a lie.  She also said that her cabinet used industry standard data security methods – another claim that was easily debunked.

Additionally, the first-term “Republican” claimed that no business information had been compromised – which also turned out to be false.

The latest revelation?  According to Haley, in addition to 3.8 million Social Security numbers, nearly 400,000 credit and debit card numbers and tax information for more than 650,000 businesses – hackers also made off with 3.3 million bank account numbers.

According to a report from NBC investigative reporter  Michael Isikoff, some of this data is already being sold on the black market.

Astounding, isn’t it?  This thing just keeps getting worse …

Seriously … is there any data that Haley’s Department of Revenue (SCDOR) didn’t cough up?

Haley’s incompetence is inexcusable under any circumstances (remember, no other state in America has ever suffered an attack on this scale – not even dumb ass Mississippi).  But the fact that this breach occurred less than six months after another major security lapse within her cabinet constitutes criminal negligence in our book.

UPDATE: Here is a video of Haley’s press conference …


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interested November 20, 2012 at 5:00 pm

You really want her in cuffs?

Raspy November 20, 2012 at 6:35 pm

I’d love to, along with Jimmy Metts, Jake Knotts, Steve Benjamin, Johnny Jeffcoat, Danny Frazier, and quite a few more deserving people.

say what?!? November 20, 2012 at 5:12 pm

this is stunning.

Inletman November 20, 2012 at 5:20 pm

I asked in the other article and would like to know if the protections now in place were ever in place?? If not, we have been sitting on a bomb for years. Additionally if they were in place, who removed them??

jimlewis,owb November 20, 2012 at 6:16 pm

Good questions

We will probably get answers around the same time we learn the identity of the second shooter on the Grassy Knoll in Dallas.

Uncle Remus November 20, 2012 at 6:58 pm

I’m gonna wear a condom until this whole thing clears up . . . .

Expatriate November 20, 2012 at 6:23 pm

Last paragraph from the story on…

“Haley on Tuesday blamed the federal government for not requiring Social Security numbers to be encrypted. She released a letter to IRS Commissioner Steven Miller “to strongly encourage the Internal Revenue Service to require all states to have stronger security measures for handling federal tax information, particularly encryption of tax information that is stored or ‘at rest.’”

Now this is classic- deflect the responsibility to the feds, then tell the Feds to impose more regulations that a state would be forecd to follow, all the while ignoring the fact that the breech occured in one of her own damn departments.

Enjoy the rest of her term, South Carolina…you might as well, since it looks like you’ll be paying for it…

vicupstate November 20, 2012 at 7:00 pm

I think it’s just a knee-jerk reaction for a Republican to blame the Feds anytime something goes wrong, regardless of where the true blame lies.

sweepin November 20, 2012 at 8:24 pm

I thought her attempt at deflection was almost Supremo when she said she was going to advise and enlighten her fellow Governors as to her findings and her alledged IRS shortcomings.

That simple wench just keeps on giving to her detractors.

It’s hard to make stuff up in the manner that she does. Saturday Night Live should be so lucky as to have script writers of her talent.

Cyber Snatch November 20, 2012 at 6:44 pm

I’m no Nikki fan, but this presser was handled pretty well. She isn’t blaming the IRS. I think she places the blame where it belongs. She has stopped shooting from her sadly now substantial hips. She has a plan, it is being implemented and appears to be adequate.

Poor Jim Etter, ka thump, ka thump, as the bus rolls over him.

(And his “lovely wife.”)

interested November 21, 2012 at 8:19 am

as the bus rolls over him? He was the head of the agency pulling down long green, do you suggest he was somehow not responsible?

SparkleCity November 21, 2012 at 2:07 pm

It ain’t adequate worth a shit!!!

shifty henry November 20, 2012 at 6:48 pm

….. wondering where Nikki will be for Thanksgiving… what I mean is which foreign country or exotic vacation area she will visit…. the Lord only knows she needs to get away from all of this uncalled for mess that has been put upon her shoulders…. after all, she was doing just fine before this happened and she was on the fast track to better things…

Thomas November 20, 2012 at 7:27 pm

Hey, hey, her husband is overseas protecting your right to post on this blog, have some decency.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, Governor Haley.

For Solutions, For Results, Nikki Haley for South Carolina in 2014!

Original Good Ole Boy November 20, 2012 at 9:02 pm

Michael Haley protecting our right to post on this blog? LOL

(assuming you were being sarcastic)

Luke November 20, 2012 at 9:15 pm

Michael is not overseas until after the first of the year so he’s not protecting anything now except when he drives his hummer and gets a photo op for Haley, that’s his attempt to save his wife’s job.

Jackie November 20, 2012 at 6:50 pm

My banker @ 1st Citz told me today that the bank would NO WAY guarantee the safety of my checking account and then tried to re-assure me with the “free credit monitoring”. Account closed.

Uncle Remus November 20, 2012 at 6:59 pm

I did the same. Asked bank about safety and they hemmed and hawed. I closed the account and moved banks. Did this at three different banks.

Jesse's Pontiac Ventura November 21, 2012 at 2:08 am

I’ve been just watching the news on this stuff, day by day. I even watched the WIS “info special” but it left me with more questions than answers.

I haven’t done the call in or online protection thing the state is offering. I have wondered if I should do the credit freeze thing; that is the only thing I have considered doing before finally deciding what to do, since we have been told we have until January and it’s retroactive “protection.”

I have thought of calling SC Dept. of Consumer Affairs and asking a bunch of questions because out of the entire universe of things you can do to protect yourself in every single corner of your financial picture, I think my wife and I are probably just going to have to bite the bullet and just get whatever the maximum coverage LifeLock has to offer. It seems the “package” the state is offering is so limited that it’s not worth doing.

Then I heard tonight on the news that the state now has a list of all whose info was compromised and they will be sending out letters and/or emails.

I kinda doubt if I will believe them if they tell me my info wasn’t compromised.

Probably should have done the LifeLock thing years ago, anyway.

We don’t do any online banking. I absolutely WILL NOT begin going online every day checking my and my wife’s accounts looking for the boogeyman unless I absolutely have to. I would rather pay LifeLock since you’re covered up to a million dollars with them from what I understand. We’re nowhere near being worth that; we could make good use of their cheapo policy if they had one. I’m sure they could “lock it down” before they got $250K out of us.

Jackie and Uncle Remus, which bank or banks impressed you with their protection policy/package?

Negro November 21, 2012 at 6:25 am

Here is the situation,

Life lock only protects you from individuals getting a new card or account in your name under your SSN. A thief can move all of your assets electronically with the account number and routing number from your bank. Given these were compromised, changing acct numbers should be easy enough to prevent this. I had also paid estimated taxes through SCDOR with a linked card to my bank account. Had that changed as well.

First Federal seems to offer good protection for free
SunTrust charges a small fee for protection
BOA -I am still figuring them out. They are getting hundreds of calls per day

Thomas November 20, 2012 at 7:07 pm

Evidently, Etters was giving out bovine information such as nothing could have prevented this or they were using industry standard security methods.

I suggest all Directors, when appointed, to review all department procedures and equipment and never lie to your Governor.

SC needs new computers, new standards for what employees can do while online such as opening non-department emails, posting on blogs, bitching about the sports teams. Never while on the job!

Well done Governor. BTW, what would have Sheheen done?

sweepin November 20, 2012 at 8:36 pm

YOu can bet your Tea Party ass that he would have handled things more directly, forthrightly, and responsibly. God, he could not have done worse.

Just compare his career path to hers:

Senator Sheheen

1)Clemson Undergrad
2)USC Law
3)Successful Camden Law Practice
4)State Senator
5)Candidate for Governor

The ill-considered and ill-chosen Governortrix:

1)Clemson Undergrad
2)No Professional Achievment or Designation
3)Tax Scofflaw
4)Winner of House Seat against Fox Hunter in Chief, Larry Koon
5)Influence Peddler and Shakedown artist
6)Tri-fold Drivel Specialist
7)Failed Governor
8)Defeated Governor

Sarah Palin in '16 November 20, 2012 at 7:11 pm

It’s all Barack Obamas fault!

Cancerman November 20, 2012 at 7:48 pm

People need to be marching at the statehouse demanding Haley resign!!!!

More to Come November 23, 2012 at 7:16 pm

And while they’re at it, they should be calling for Deputy Cooper to resign also. Haley blamed the IRS standards for this problem. The IRS has stated that they REQUIRE all information to be encrypted. It seems that Deputy Cooper, an ex-IRS employee, gave her the wrong information again.

The DOR gets all kinds of information from the IRS who requires them to be in compliance with their rules. Did the DOR (Cooper)assure the IRS they were in compliance?

Haley better not get into a pissing contest with the IRS, because she will be in the contest unarmed (with Cooper).

Bill Blume better be watching his ass when he gets there. It will be interesting to see if Cooper can ruin someone else’s career like he did Etter’s.

Knows in Myrtle Beach November 24, 2012 at 10:09 am

You got that right! DOR was never in compliance with the IRS rules. Not if all information wasn’t encrypted.

You’re right about Cooper also. If he’s allowed to stay, he will end up costing Blume his job. Blume can’t be stupid enough to let him stay. If he does, he deserves to lose his job just like Etter did!

Perfect Presser (all fantasy) November 20, 2012 at 8:17 pm

She was grade a first class. Her presser was really really well done but of course there was barely a bit of truth in it.

But that is not important.

She reverted back to her twin themes which are running against the feds and never admitting she is wrong. She never stops the politics. She is restless. she is, in fact, soulless.

She is no different than Obama. She can say whatever she needs to say. She is like a chicken scratching for feed at a Dolly-wood. Her lying is reptilian.

If she is our leader we are lost.

interested November 21, 2012 at 8:39 am

Damn, you are right.

shifty henry November 20, 2012 at 8:18 pm

Hmmmm – I plagiarized this 1962 British Drinking Song – especially for FitsNews


There I was, a-diggin’ this hole
Hole in the ground, so big and sort o’ round it was
And there was I, diggin’ it deep
It was flat at the bottom and the sides were steep

When along comes this broad in a flower hat
Which she lifted and scratched her head
Woooh, she looked down the hole
Poor demented soul and she said

“Don’t dig there, dig it elsewhere
You’re digging it round and it ought to be square
The shape of it’s wrong, it’s much too long
And you can’t put hole where a hole don’t belong”

Well, there was I, a-stood in me hole
Shovellin’ earth for all that I was worth,
And there was her, standin’ up there
So grand and official with her nose in the air

So I gave her a look sort of sideways
And I leaned on me shovel and sighed
Woooh, I lit me a fag
And havin’ took a drag I replied

“I just couldn’t bear to dig it elsewhere
I’m diggin’ it round cause I don’t want it square
And if you disagree, it doesn’t bother me
That’s the place where the holes gonna be”

Well there we were, discussing this hole
Hole in the ground, so big and sort o’ round
It’s not there now, the ground’s all flat
And beneath it is the broad in the flower hat

And that’s that!

hum_dinger November 20, 2012 at 8:18 pm

Everytime she opens her mouth she only confirms she’s an amateur when it comes to information technology and data security.

Please make her go away….

shifty henry November 20, 2012 at 8:24 pm

See post above…….

Mike Hammer November 20, 2012 at 8:29 pm

Hey, buddy, I’m the only person on this site who is allowed to refer to a broad as a “broad”.

Thomas November 20, 2012 at 8:33 pm

Brrrrinng Brrrrrringg

Gov Shehhen: Dick, DICK, I have a proble.

Dick: Do not yell, it is movie night here in the WH…gottal love those blu ray players.

Gov Sheheen: Dick, someone hacked into the SCDOR and stole people’s social security numbers.

Dick: Ohhhh, did you see that sports fans?!….really? When?

Gov Sheheen: Obama’s guys tipped us off, evidently they were in our servers for weeks before we were told about it….this is my Clemson-Carolina game….what do I do? Help me DICK!

Dick: Funny, ok, well, me and Hillary were talking about this before the movie started, Barack is getting some sleep for the big gold game tomorrow…ohhh, you just gotta like the that yellow brick road….look out Scarecrow!….DICK-DICK….oh, yea, well, simply put, we use alternative plan C, blame Sanford!

Gov Sheheen: We all ready did that, remember? The unemployment numbers caved in my first term, and we had to shore up our party for the elections…so we blamed the high unemployment of mark Sanford…

…You’ll find he is a whiz of a Wiz! If ever a Wiz! there was.
If ever oh ever a Wiz! there was The Wizard of Oz is one because, Because, because, because, because, because. Because of the wonderful things he does…..


….look, I raised 400 thousand schlemolleys for The One, and you can talk to me better than that….ok, ok, we used Alt Plan C. Hmmmm….When a man’s an empty kettle he should be on his mettle,
And yet I’m torn apart. Just because I’m presumin’ that I could be kind-a-human, If I only had heart…..GOT IT….just say you will bring the hackers to justice and you will not rest until they are brought to justice.

Gov Sheheen: I LIKE IT….yes, this will work, after all, the numbers stolen were republican’s, so it really won’t matter anyway. THANKS DICK….DICK?!

…..Im melting, melting, mmmm-eeel—-ting

Samuel Adams November 20, 2012 at 10:01 pm

Computers, hacking, encryption..scary words that seem to legitimize the powerlessness of the state government to protect data. As most posters on this page know, common sense is the missing ingredient in the government’s arsenal. Case in point: the South Carolina Employment Security Commission, (aka the employment office, or lack thereof), recently sent me several notices in the U.S. mail with my social security number prominently displayed on the header, next to my name. Duh!

Thomas November 20, 2012 at 11:09 pm

(remember, no other state in America has ever suffered an attack on this scale – not even dumb ass Mississippi)

Yea, right

Thomas November 20, 2012 at 11:10 pm
Carpe Jugulum November 20, 2012 at 11:12 pm

We should just accept it. This state is doomed. It goes beyond mere human incompetence. God simply hates this place and makes no allowances for it. Between SCDOR, SCSU, the Lexington Ring, Nikki, the state legislature, and LMC there is no hope of redemption. Just give up.

mlynn November 20, 2012 at 11:30 pm

You know, there are a WHOLE lot more questions that should be asked concerning the incompetency at DOR.

For one — how in the world did a phishing email even make it through their server? Do they not have filters?? The state agency I worked for before I retired had already put into place very STRONG filters to take out any kind of spam or phishing emails. I can’t get over that kind of incompetency or lax security there.

Another thing: the person(s) who clicked on the link in the phishing email had security clearance to work in the files, yet did not KNOW to NOT click on that link? Even I know better than to do that. What kind of people do we have working at DOR?

There are just a WHOLE lot of very serious questions regarding all of this.

shifty henry November 20, 2012 at 11:53 pm


Jan November 21, 2012 at 5:09 pm

The security person for the our business just told us that the new thing is what they call spear fishing. The hacker pulls up your face book or other social media page and identifies friends. They then go to your friends face book page and copy photos or other things from that page. They then send you an email that appears to be from your friend with pictures of your friend. If you accept that email, they send you a second email with the malware.

Success rate is much higher as it gets through most filters and appears personal.

Smirks November 21, 2012 at 8:29 am

People, if you put it on your tax return, it’s fucking stolen. All of that information is stolen. Every last bit. So yes, bank accounts that you had your returns direct deposited into? Fucking stolen.

Probably would be a good idea to create a new checking account, move everything over to the new one (direct deposited pay, automatic billing, subscriptions, everything), wait two months to make sure nothing is pinging your old account, and just close it.

And next time, have them mail you the goddamn check. You don’t have a choice in giving them your SSN, but for fucks sake, don’t give them any more than you have to. Wait a few days for the check to come in the mail. It sucks, but SCDoR sucks worse.

Stimulus November 21, 2012 at 8:53 am

She is a stupid ugly bitch!

Nolff November 21, 2012 at 9:16 am

Change your checking accounts.

G Gordon Liddy November 21, 2012 at 9:27 am

Nikki Haley is an Obama plant – my investigators had an extremely difficult time to solve this puzzle because it was slicky done.

semi November 21, 2012 at 9:50 am

Relative timeline for Haley and her run in with hackers:

-Haley and hubby Michael’s account hacked, takes years to clear up
-Haley’s employment form at Lexington Medical hacked, unresolved
-Haley’s DOR data hacked-unresolved

Seems to me if you have been bitten once you would insure that you wouldn’t be bitten twice!

Seems to me if you have been bitten twice you would insure that you wouldn’t be bitten thrice!

Broken record, noted

MARION OLIVER November 21, 2012 at 9:57 am

The folliwing is copied from the State.

Should consumers close their checking accounts and get new credit cards?

Probably not. Banks will make customers whole if crooks steal money from accounts, the S.C. Bankers Association said. Customers must tell banks within 60 days of getting their statement about the theft. Banks also will not hold customers liable for fraudulent credit-card charges

Susie November 23, 2012 at 11:53 am

Telling someone who knows they listed their bank account information or credit card number on a South Carolina tax return NOT to change accounts is about the stupidest advice I’ve seen yet. If you don’t change your account numbers the crooks can get (and keep) your money and then the cost of the fraud will get shared among the bank’s customers and shareholders via higher fees/lower dividends. Change those accounts without delay!

junior justice November 21, 2012 at 10:20 am

DO NOT WORRY! Next week we will be notified by the governor’s office that we will privileged to hear that Haley-Version 1.5 will be released to the public.

Not So Much November 21, 2012 at 1:11 pm

The bad news dribbles out of Her Higness’s office.

The 2014 elections can’t come soon enough.

It is amazing that she has any popular support at all. But there are still people who think that she is everything great. Of course, there are flat earthers, birthers, and every other kind of nut out there too.

Love how her recent press conference tries to turn it all around so that the Federal Government is somehow to blame for this. What horse radish!

Resign, Nikki. Do everyone a favor.

Really SC? November 21, 2012 at 3:28 pm

Hey Fits, you’d sound a lot more educated if you asked, “Are there any data…?” You know, since data are plural.

Jan November 21, 2012 at 5:21 pm

I think data is both plural and singular. I think the question is grammatically correct.

Your grammar daddy December 23, 2014 at 9:18 am

“Datum” is singular. “Data” is plural. “Bacterium” is singular. “Bacteria” is plural. “You” can be both singular or plural, in its usage. Nothing can be both singular and plural, because that would defeat the purpose of the differentiation. Misuse of words by otherwise intelligent people causes other otherwise intelligent people to consider the misuse to be grammatically correct.

Torch November 21, 2012 at 5:18 pm

I heard the presser yesterday. She was talking about old equipment and outdated software. I wonder just how many times the agencies requested more money in their budgets and got it denied. Haley’s agencies probably didn’t request it because she told them not to. All these people against taxes got just what they asked for. I wish it would be the tea party people that get hacked if anyone does. I spoke with one IT director a few years ago and the director said there was software available to them with little cost but that there was no money for staff to implement and monitor the software.

Calhoun Fawls November 23, 2012 at 3:00 am

No Governor in any state’s history have overseen so much harm to his or her people than Governor Nikki Haley. It is what happens when people get all fired up about elected the least knowledgeable person for the job.

Moronalert November 29, 2012 at 12:55 pm

Blaming Hailey for the breech is simply stupid. Her lack of candor and timeliness is one thing, but like the President, there are many facets to the government that the person in charge doesn’t directly oversee. It’s not Hailey’s job to ensure the proper encryption is being used for SCDOR records. It’s her job to fix things like this when they come to light.

You can not like her all you want, but blaming her for the security breach is not productive nor prudent.


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