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SC Senator: Removal Of Confederate Flag A “Stalinist Purge”

|| By FITSNEWS || The man who finished a distant second to U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham in last summer’s “Republican” primary for the U.S. Senate is blasting Graham and governor Nikki Haley for their newfound opposition to the Confederate flag. S.C. Senator Lee Bright – who proudly displays the controversial…

|| By FITSNEWS || The man who finished a distant second to U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham in last summer’s “Republican” primary for the U.S. Senate is blasting Graham and governor Nikki Haley for their newfound opposition to the Confederate flag.

S.C. Senator Lee Bright – who proudly displays the controversial banner in his Columbia, S.C. Senate office – said the proposed removal of the flag from the north lawn of the S.C. State House amounted to a “Stalinist purge.”

Oh, brother …

The movement to remove the flag comes in response to last week’s horrific, racially motivated shooting at the Mother Emanuel AME Church in downtown Charleston, S.C.  There, nine black parishioners – including S.C. Senator Clementa Pinckney, the church’s pastor – were gunned down by Dylann Storm Roof, a 21-year-old white supremacist.

No stranger to indefensible positions, Bright elaborated on his position in an interview with The Washington Post.

“It’s a lot of hateful e-mails about the South,” Bright told Post reporter Chico Harlan. “If they have such contempt for it, they’re welcome to stay where they are.  Just because a mass murderer has a symbol on his automobile – there are folks that have killed in the name throughout history.  We won’t take things out of context just because of an atrocity.”

Um … this was a little more than just a guy with a rebel flag on his license plate, Senator.  A lot more, actually.

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212 comments

a face in the crowd June 22, 2015 at 7:18 pm

A stooge’s stooge.

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Krazy Kat June 22, 2015 at 7:20 pm

I know this is mean. I don’t know how else to say it.
Living inSC is like coaching a retarded debate team.

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Frank Right June 22, 2015 at 7:21 pm

Sen. Bright did god tell you that? I recall false prophecy about god’s will during your US Senate bid.

https://www.fitsnews.com/2012/07/31/lee-bright-mulls-us-senate-bid/

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Fran Left June 22, 2015 at 7:40 pm

SYNTwist aka Garbage…you couldn’t find an argument about his comments without attacking his Christianity?

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Frank Right June 22, 2015 at 9:57 pm

You are delusional. Boo hoo — puss still hurt?

Bright attacks religion when he USES it.

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Guest June 22, 2015 at 7:23 pm

This is the first intelligent thing I’ve ever heard out of Lee Bright (Seriously).

The Confederate flag is a great symbol, representative of all that is good about our past and our people. It represents the last true Christian stand against Northern imperialism. The same forces that now advocate for removal of our flag and rewriting of our history are also the same ones pushing for normalization of homosexual relationships, abortion, and a host of other policies designed to demoralize our population and destroy our way of life.

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KAI! June 22, 2015 at 7:26 pm

You are why we had to burn the south. Might have to do it again.

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Lone Ranger June 22, 2015 at 8:17 pm

Yo…Kai…start at my house you ignorant louse and be sure to bring your nieces
And don’t think you’re hallucinating when you hear that blast and just go…all to pieces !!!

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KAI! June 23, 2015 at 2:00 am

Oh, tough guy!

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Squishy123 June 22, 2015 at 8:26 pm

Is that a Black Panther paw?

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Rocky June 23, 2015 at 8:27 am

Hot Cougar.

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Rocky June 22, 2015 at 9:11 pm

Should have burned a lot more of it.

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Guest-X June 22, 2015 at 7:28 pm

Your way of life????

Were you wet nursed as an infant?

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Rocky June 22, 2015 at 7:34 pm

Flip/pogo is just a mouthpiece for Fox News and Koch brothers talking points. No original thought there.

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Rocky June 22, 2015 at 9:11 pm

Hey dipwad – you lost the war. That means, if you’re still supporting the CSA – you’re a looooo,oooooo,ser.

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Jimmy June 22, 2015 at 9:35 pm

Hey Shit ass,I-95 goes north. Use it.

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dragnet June 22, 2015 at 9:40 pm

Jimmy,James.jes…it don’t matter anymore folks….

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Rocky Abe June 23, 2015 at 8:26 am

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. Did the South win the war, or lose it? Jimmy, was Columbia a utopia of modern buildings come March 1865, or a smoldering pile of dung and burnt cotton bales? Jimmy, was Charleston a shining city by the bay in 1865 or a rubble pile? Jimmy, are the wrecks of thousands of ships along the SC coast from the winning side, or the ships sunk by the winners? Jimmy, you get my point – son!!!!!

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TontoBubbaGoldstein June 22, 2015 at 11:27 pm

Uncle Ho (Chi Minh) says “Hi.”

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Rocky June 23, 2015 at 8:22 am

Hi Ho :0

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KAI! June 22, 2015 at 7:26 pm

It’s THE go to flag of racist cowards that don’t have the guts to publicly say what they are thinking.
Often the confederate flag is found next to a Nazi flag. I’ve seen it my self.

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Lone Ranger June 22, 2015 at 8:15 pm

Kai didn’t do well in Remedial History where he was remembered as a beauty
And the reason Kai missed his eighth grade graduation?…yep–jury duty !!!

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KAI! June 23, 2015 at 2:02 am

Its the flag of racists. EVERYBODY KNOWS IT.
Nazis in Europe fly the stars and bas because their flag is banned! They love the stars and bars and they know what it stands for.

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Squishy123 June 22, 2015 at 8:26 pm

Where?

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The Colonel June 22, 2015 at 8:33 pm

His den? I keed, I keed!

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Are you serious June 22, 2015 at 9:17 pm Reply
KAI! June 23, 2015 at 2:00 am

In European countries where the Na zi flag is banned ( all of them ) they fly the confederate flag instead. Now why would skinheads in Europe like the stars and bars????
Hmmmm, I wonder?

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 22, 2015 at 7:36 pm

I am going to enjoy the loser-legion’s whining and wailing as much as I will their actual defeat and the flag coming down.

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guest June 22, 2015 at 7:39 pm

Whining? Wait until Obamacare goes down per SCOTUS in a couple of days!
Flag down-Obamacare DOWN!!! LMAO!!!!

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2 step tango June 22, 2015 at 7:41 pm

LMAO your a stupid dumba$$.

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a face in the crowd June 22, 2015 at 7:45 pm

**you’re**

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Squishy123 June 22, 2015 at 8:25 pm

In SC it’s spelled either way. What does it “mater”?

a face in the crowd June 22, 2015 at 8:59 pm

SC has been assimilated.

TontoBubbaGoldstein June 22, 2015 at 10:28 pm

your
**you’re**

PRO TIP:

“UR”

Clark June 22, 2015 at 7:45 pm

Removing the flag will do nothing for race relations. It will do a lot for certain politicians.

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Oh well June 22, 2015 at 8:58 pm

I’m just looking at the picture above and wondering why I never heard that Corky from ‘Life Goes On’ had been elected to office in SC. You’d think he was smarter than that.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 22, 2015 at 9:10 pm

You’d be surprised. It’s not enough to take that piece of shit down. We need to change all highways, buildings, parks, etc. to names commemorating black leaders, teachers, firemen, etc. Then take down all confederate monuments.

If they did that, it would have an effect on race relations for the better. I’m not sure how you could possibly think otherwise.

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lee jr. June 22, 2015 at 9:24 pm

All that for 12% of the population?

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 22, 2015 at 9:28 pm

collateral Americans eh?

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guest June 22, 2015 at 9:37 pm

Blacks stood up for the establishment of their civil rights (Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, The Little Rock Nine); any decent group of minorities would have done the same. However, the violence that plagues the black community continues on to this day in the form of gangs, drugs, and crime. Those three things have nothing to do with fighting for civil rights. However, if blacks saw themselves as something more and didn’t use slavery to promote hate then maybe the nation would see these young, black men for who and what they really are: a human being with promise to do greatness. Blacks are no longer slaves and they have equal freedoms under the American Constitution to do with their lives what they want. Blacks have the same opportunity for greatness but hatred and ignorance are holding back their potential.

The flag issue might help WHITE trash MARXISTS like you, stoke racial hatred,looting and terror in your own community but it doesn’t solve the problem the Democrat Party has created.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 22, 2015 at 9:51 pm

You are a truly disgusting human being.

Beiber June 22, 2015 at 10:12 pm

Ha! you say this…while you post your vile stupidity with your atrocious screen name–objectifying female genitalia–and posting a picture of a ridiculous “talking head” media bimbo.

Keeping drinking your kool-aid fool. …..I hear the king calling, he’s asking for his jester. You’d better run along and catch up.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 22, 2015 at 10:20 pm

Look up cunt ya cunt. It’s also a term used in English to slag off a person (usually male) similar to punk or thug.

Pffft. June 23, 2015 at 9:02 am

So you are supposedly referring to Limbaugh a punk or thug?

Riiiight.

Argument fail! Absolutely pathetic. Run along and find somewhere else to lie.

Rocky June 23, 2015 at 8:32 am

Let’s see. Blacks got passage of civil rights in 1966 more or less. Let’s call it 1968 by the time it’s in place. Let’s call it 45 years. The GOP has held the Presidency for 28 of those years. How is it the Democrat Party’s fault again? “Duh, I dunno, I just repeatin’ what I reads on Breitbart Mr. Rocky.” I think there’s plenty of blame to go around for everyone relative to the issues in the black community – including some blame for the black community.

Ricky Hano June 23, 2015 at 8:07 pm

Rocky you need a history lesson or any Education at all. Democrats have oppressed Black forever and still have them in Slavery. Even pay them to Vote Democratic.

Mountie June 22, 2015 at 10:13 pm

eh? Americans? Or Canadians? eh?

Denmark Vesey June 22, 2015 at 9:35 pm

Stupid much? Being a part of the majority population doesn’t entitle assholes like you to control others.

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Really? June 22, 2015 at 10:15 pm

…isn’t that the basic premise of democracy? Just sayin’.

Derek June 22, 2015 at 10:15 pm

For the school for kids that don’t read good!

Really? June 22, 2015 at 10:18 pm

How so?

swampland June 23, 2015 at 9:13 am

It certainly is the basic premise of democracy for the majority to control the minority. Our founders, however, did not trust democracies and did not establish a democracy in America.

Instead, they established a constitutional republic, consisting of elected representatives who vote for us within the constraints of a constitution approved by a super-majority.

We pledge allegiance to the American flag “and to the republic for which it stands” not the democracy for which it stands.

Really? June 23, 2015 at 9:57 am

“It certainly is the basic premise of democracy for the majority to control the minority.”

Thank you for being honest!

” Our founders, however, did not trust democracies and did not establish a democracy in America.”

Yes, you won’t get any argument from me, but watch the rhetoric very carefully….everyone will say that if the flag comes downs it’s because of “majority will” or “unity”(in Haley speak)…which makes it “ok”. (and I do believe that the pols have their wetted fingers in the air on this issue)

There’s also the issue of this being a SC affair more so than a Federal one, but I’m nit picking there….

This talk about “majority will” and the greatness of “democracy” by many here on the topic of the flag is a direct strike against the concept of Republicanism in philosophy, which was supposed to temper the emotions/fickleness of the masses.

Rocky June 23, 2015 at 11:43 am

I thought some here Pledge Allegiance to the Confederate States of America, and the key principals of a slave in every back kitchen.

Bible Thumper June 22, 2015 at 11:16 pm

Is that you, Telemaque?

Logan June 24, 2015 at 3:15 am

Tell that to South Africa.

TontoBubbaGoldstein June 22, 2015 at 10:32 pm

You’d be surprised. It’s not enough to take that piece of shit down. We need to change all highways, buildings, parks, etc. to names commemorating black leaders, teachers, firemen, etc. Then take down all confederate monuments.

If they did that, it would have an effect on race relations for the better. I’m not sure how you could possibly think otherwise.

Nathan Poe would like a word with you…

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Mike at the Beach June 22, 2015 at 10:59 pm

You gotta hope that’s where he was coming from…

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The Colonel June 23, 2015 at 8:28 am

No, it’s coming from the backside of his/her/its taint.

Slartibartfast June 22, 2015 at 11:45 pm

Nathan, hell! How about Edgar A.?

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offinya June 23, 2015 at 9:44 am

He trolls all over the internet using that same avatar. Just ignore the tard and he will go away

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RogueElephant June 22, 2015 at 10:59 pm

I would ask; How stupid can you get but your stupidity knows no bounds.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 22, 2015 at 11:08 pm

Really? Ask post WW2 Germany about de-nazification (including outlawing the nazi salute, flags, etc).

Did it rid all facists…no, but it made a clear statement that the new gov’t would not tolerate those views.

So who is stupid now?

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TontoBubbaGoldstein June 22, 2015 at 11:35 pm

So who is stupid now?

Is that a trick question?

Bible Thumper June 22, 2015 at 11:13 pm

How about the Denmark Vesey Bridge front Charleston to Mount Pleasant.

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Rocky June 23, 2015 at 11:41 am

I for one would fight to keep from renaming the Col. Festus Koonhunter Davis bridge on 321 heading into Georgia. Col. Festus was a fine man.

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larry June 23, 2015 at 5:14 pm

why dont you leave the U.S. , its clear that you dont believe in what you preach,you have to be a demorat !

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Hellfighter William Jackson June 23, 2015 at 5:35 pm

You don’t like the flag? Take your punk ass north, bitch boy.

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CharlieChan June 23, 2015 at 9:02 am

If by “race relations” you mean “white people’s attitudes” then you might be right, but if you mean it won’t do anything for the black community to know the SC government took down a symbol of hate, I think you’re wrong.

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Flag is Inappropriate June 23, 2015 at 10:58 am

Take the damn flag down so everyone will finally shut the hell up about it. Screw everyone I just want to stop hearing about the damn thing.

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Logan June 24, 2015 at 3:15 am

Attacking the South will just divide us even more. All they’re doing is causing more racial tension.

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 22, 2015 at 7:45 pm

That face reminded me of a current news story.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33226416

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Bible Thumper June 22, 2015 at 11:08 pm

Your posts of the past couple of days don’t make much sense in light of the news of the last few hours.

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 22, 2015 at 11:22 pm

Quite the contrary. It has been the flag-worshipers who have been saying, “Never happen.”

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Well,I'll Be Damn! June 22, 2015 at 7:47 pm

Like wow!

What a surprise!

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Mike June 22, 2015 at 7:50 pm

After polling on the issue, Haley and her weak minded ilk decided to lower the flag. Look for the fund raising appeals, Sunday morning talk shows and the rest of it.

It is a political scam….at its best.

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Ignacio June 22, 2015 at 8:56 pm

Relax people. Just because the flag is coming down doesn’t mean you have to stop being assholes. I’m sure you’ll find some other way to express your assholedom to world.

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 22, 2015 at 11:24 pm

They still have a lot of black politicians and preachers to hate.

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Barbara Ann June 23, 2015 at 9:42 am

yes we can burn the gay flag, the black liberation flag, the koran…and we can make sure the Confederate Flags rises on more lawns across the Country than ever before. Its one thing that it goes down on Gov buildings, you morons can’t do shit about what we put on our lawns.

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Ignacio June 23, 2015 at 11:22 am

You are free to look like an ignorant fuck. That won’t chamge.

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cjstarr36 June 23, 2015 at 3:27 pm

Might as well Ignacio, You Already Look Like One!!!…..

Chili June 23, 2015 at 6:52 pm

Uh…that’s “change” not “chamge” ignorant fuck

Poor Bumpkins June 23, 2015 at 11:27 am

I’m sure it will look great amongst junked vehicles and pit bull droppings. At least, the local meth heads will know where to get their next fix. Tell uncle daddy ‘hello’, Barabra.

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larry June 23, 2015 at 5:11 pm

barbara,why dont you go back up north where your idiot mind belongs !

USG June 23, 2015 at 10:48 pm

Up north? Are you stupid? She’s in the right place, right here.

s June 24, 2015 at 12:38 am

See now that was racist as hell

Rocky June 23, 2015 at 11:40 am

You most certainly are free to put it up on your lawn. Use it to decorate your kids and grandkids bedrooms. Use it as a table cloth. When it gets worn out, you can cut into strips and save on Charmin. I really don’t care what you do with it. Wrap yourself in the flag of Treason – knock yourself out. Am assuming however, you’re not invited to the funeral on Friday.

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Ricky Hano June 23, 2015 at 8:04 pm

Get you A History Lesson there Rocky. Not Propaganda from your Democratic moron Friends. Look at Demacrate and KKK Connection in Tennessee 1876, Check the slave trade out and where the slaves landed before being shipped to the market. Then check the Republican Party out 1854. Then check out how many Democrats vote to free all slaves and grant them voting Rights. You don’t have A Clue,

larry June 23, 2015 at 5:10 pm

lgacio,look invader why dont you stick your head up where the sun never shines !

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ProudSouth June 23, 2015 at 5:31 pm

heritage not hate, read a book and learn and stop being the ignorant one

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Logan June 24, 2015 at 3:14 am

It’s not coming down.

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lowtidebob June 22, 2015 at 8:02 pm

Senator Bright was born 150 years too late.

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The Colonel June 22, 2015 at 8:26 pm

No, just 54 years.

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Lone Ranger June 22, 2015 at 8:12 pm

Ummmm…Kemosabe…Will Folks calling Bright’s position “indefensible???”…this
the same Will Folks who lied about taking Haley to bed?

Why yes, Tonto—it IS don’tcha know—Will is a poster child
for a degenerate, atheist RINO whose only claim to fame is his very empty…head
!!!

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BedStuyWhiteGuy June 22, 2015 at 8:21 pm

Lone Ranger Said:
“Ummmm…Kemosabe…Will Folks calling Bright’s position “indefensible???”…this
the same Will Folks who lied about taking Haley to bed?

Why yes, Tonto—it IS don’tcha know—Will is a poster child
for a degenerate, atheist RINO whose only claim to fame is his very empty…head
!!!”

I take this incomplete bad sentence structure as a metaphor for the incomplete bad historic record Battle Flag apologists use. Bless you.

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lowtidebob June 22, 2015 at 8:42 pm

We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable…. paragraph 21 from the Texas Declaration of Causes for Secession Feb 1861.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 22, 2015 at 9:11 pm

You watch Fox News and that’s basically the GOP position today.

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idcydm June 22, 2015 at 9:47 pm

Or there is Brian Williams on MSNBC.

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Bible Thumper June 22, 2015 at 11:03 pm

Have you read listened to any news for the last 24 hrs.?

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 22, 2015 at 11:12 pm

Mate, Fox News is one big gigantic organ for black oppression. Sometimes subtly, sometimes not. They have gone all in on “welfare queens” and the “takers”. The 47%. “Black on Black crime”. Staunch defenders of Zimmerman, Baltimore cops, Ferguson cops. Constantly using the term “thugs” when applied to black people. Choosing to run stories that depict black people poorly and ignoring stories that depict white GOP politicians who are clearly racist.

It’s a 24/7 bullshit mountain over there.

Bible Thumper June 22, 2015 at 11:21 pm

You’re the racist and just proved it. What does “welfare queens” have to do with blacks?

Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 22, 2015 at 11:23 pm

Don’t ask me. Go ask the Fox News punditocracy

Bible Thumper June 22, 2015 at 11:33 pm

You made the connection. Beside the Baltimore police has a Black commissioner and Black Mayor. They also have one of the highest percentage of black officers. You don’t make any sense.

Slartibartfast June 22, 2015 at 11:41 pm

Why do you kick against the prick?

Bible Thumper June 22, 2015 at 11:47 pm

Libs hate more than anything being out smarted by a Bible Thumper. I think my name disarms them. I wish there was more challenging opponents. The biggest mistake libs make is thinking we are stupid. That’s why people like Lee Bright are so useful.

Slartibartfast June 23, 2015 at 12:00 am

I guess so. But this is one fight I don’t want. For me, it’s the wrong flag. The right flag can be found here swampfoxnews.com/ It’s the only surviving picture of this “Camp” flag. The picture was taken outside an Iowa college library, in 1911. The flag was lost. Photoanalysis suggests that the background is red.

Bible Thumper June 23, 2015 at 12:24 am

I’m for taking down the flag. But it is going to be taken down by the least racist party, the Republicans. Limbaughsaphatk is worse than Lee Bright. He thinks Blacks need to be looked after by White people like him.if he is Black then it’s even worse.

Hank June 23, 2015 at 1:31 am

BS, Republicans are acting now because the national party does not wont to deal with the flag issue in the primaries. They could not care less what black people think and they sure as heck don’t give a crap about stopping racism. Protecting white people from the lazy black people out to take their money is their main campaign theme and has been for for 50 years. Look up Lee Atwater for the best discription of Republican politics I have ever seen.

And this BS argument that Democrats are the real racists is just more Republican garbage. Typical Republican strategy. If you don’t like the topic attack the person. The Republican Party in the south dupes people into voting against their own interest by pitting them against blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, gays, etc etc. If they think they are constantly under attack, they won’t notice Republicans are screwing them, and selling them out to the highest billionaire bidder.

And as for the “I am for taking down the flag” you, like Haley are just another gutless Republican wonder, who faced with mass murder engendered by your own devisive politics; suddenly realized you were on the wrong side of history, and decided it was time to jump ship and leave the dumb racist rednecks, like Lee Bright, to fend for themselves.

Bible Thumper June 23, 2015 at 1:58 am

Your contempt for Blacks shows in every word you speak. You care for Blacks like an owner cares for his pets. You don’t believe they are capable of taking care of themselves. It’s a good feeling to know there well being depends on your good will. If you are Black , your situation is even sadder.

Truth! June 23, 2015 at 8:06 am

“You care for Blacks like an owner cares for his pets.”

lol….now that’s devastating in terms of identifying the non-black membership motivations of Democrats…I don’t really see it in his diatribe, but I definitely see it in the Democratic demographic outside whites.

They really think blacks can’t take care of themselves, the world is too harsh a place for them(because of Republicans), etc.

If I was black, I’d be offended.

Truth! June 23, 2015 at 8:06 am

edit: outside blacks(not whites)

Disbelief June 23, 2015 at 11:02 am

“You don’t believe they are capable of taking care of themselves.”

I don’t think a majority of Americans are capable of taking care of themselves in the corporatist hell that the Republican party has for America.

Bible Thumper June 23, 2015 at 11:31 am

We could always try the nanny state plan of the country with the largest oil reserves in the world. How did Venezuela’s plan work?

Practically every thing you willingly buy for every need you have and every thing you want is provided by a corporatist.

Where do you think your car, gasoline, electricity, phone, entertainment, food, clothing and medicine came from?

Hank June 23, 2015 at 1:37 pm

Again total Repugnut bull shit!! I defy you to point to one sentence in my post that indicates contempt for black people, or indicates I think black people can’t take care of themselves. Do you people just make stuff up as you go along? You must believe people, especially black people are stupid and cannot not read. Maybe you are the one who can’t read, because the only people I have shown contempt for are the gutless Republicans, who have played the race card for the last 50 years to get votes by pitting white people against black people and now gays, hispanics and muslims. And now want to pretend you are the ones who have been fighting racism. The same people who fought to keep the flag up, as a vote for me yell out to the neo-confederate racist in this state.

You people are pathetic. No one is buying your transparent attempt to pit black people against Democrats and deflect attention from the fact your party is the party that has fought to keep the flag up. Why? Because it benefits Republicans to fan the flames of racism in SC. To create a divide between black people and white people, because if the average citizens, black and white, ever got together they might realize they are all be screwed by Republicans.

Nothing has changed in the Republican Party. It is still the party of Lee Atwater. And people like Mr. Roof are the result of your race baiting divisive Republican politics.

The only good thing to come out of Nikki and her merry band of Republicans flip flopping on the flag issue, is the redneck racists and neo-confederates now know they were being played by Republicans as well.

Bible Thumper June 23, 2015 at 2:05 pm

Again total Repugnut bull shit!! Do you people just make stuff up as you go along? You must believe people, especially black people are stupid and cannot not read. Maybe you are the one who can’t read.

Description of Democrats
Republicans Democrats have played the race card for the last 50 years to get votes by pitting white people against black people.

vicupstate June 23, 2015 at 8:46 am

^^
Truer words were never written.

Soft Sigh from Hell June 23, 2015 at 7:19 pm

Hank speaks the unvarnished truth!!

Rocky June 23, 2015 at 11:54 am

That must keep you pretty busy since ole’ Lee eats more of his own shoe leather than anyone I know.

Childlike Naivete June 23, 2015 at 11:05 am

“What does “welfare queens” have to do with blacks?”
I’m sure Cliven Bundy can explain that one to you.

Bible Thumper June 22, 2015 at 11:27 pm

47%? I thought blacks were 13% of the population

Rocky June 23, 2015 at 11:53 am

I was wondering why Hannity wasn’t on the radio yesterday, and Herman Caine 999 wasn’t on the radio this morning.

TontoBubbaGoldstein June 22, 2015 at 11:24 pm

Choo talkin’ to me, mang?

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shifty henry June 23, 2015 at 12:21 am

An old Norwegian was leaning up against a tree in the old west when a wagon train happened upon him. He kept whittling while the wagon master climbed down and began “Old man, we are all starving, tired and looking for food. Do you know where we can find some?”.

“Vell yah, but you don’t vant to go dare.” said the old Norwegian.

“You let US be the judge of that said the wagon master. What kind of food can we find?”

“Vell dare is a bacon tree over dat ridge dare, but I tell to you, don’t go over it or you vill surely die.”

With the news of food the wagon master loaded up and proceeded over the hill only to be met by savage Indians
who slaughtered almost everyone, but the wagon master. He managed to crawl back over the ridge to the whittling Norwegian and cursed him waving his fists at the old man and screamed “You old fool, you got everyone killed,
but me and there wasn’t a bacon tree either.”

“Vait un minute, vait un minute.” said the Norwegian as he thumbed though a Norwegian-English dictionary.

“Uff-dah, yah, it vasn’t a bacon tree, it vas a hambush”.

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Native Ink June 22, 2015 at 8:23 pm

Like a lot of done deals like ethics reform, D.O.T. reform, etc, this “done deal” with the flag probably won’t get done.

I don’t see two-thirds of the senate voting to lower the flag right now. They’ll wait until January to debate it, and by then public opinion will be muted enough for the Good Ole Boys to keep the flag flying.

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vicupstate June 23, 2015 at 8:54 am

You may well be right. 16 votes in the Senate is all it takes and Bright is at least one. Plus he or someone else can filibuster.

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Frank Right June 23, 2015 at 8:58 am

If people stay continue to press the issue. The flag will come down.

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The Colonel June 22, 2015 at 8:24 pm

Hey Sensor Lee (not so) Bright,
You are about to be run over by the bus of public opinion. Better stick that finger up one more time. Let’s get this done and then move on to roads and schools.

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Squishy123 June 22, 2015 at 8:27 pm

I wonder if he’ll filibuster?

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Frank Right June 23, 2015 at 8:59 am

He only filibusters his own bills. Everyone else is to blame. Including the government. No personal responsibility.

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Rocky June 22, 2015 at 9:14 pm

Well Colonel – look at it this way – if being an asshole was illegal, Sen. Bright would be in jail. But then so would a lot of other people. Possibly myself included. Screw him. The flags coming down, and there ain’t one little itty witty thing Bright can do about it.

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sparklecity June 22, 2015 at 10:46 pm

Except continue his top-notch job of being a horses ass as a state senator cause he knows he is a darling of Karen Martin and the Spartanburg Tea Party and they are sure to vote for him.

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Rocky June 23, 2015 at 8:18 am

Interesting comment. Consider this – if he’s the one who has to deal with the largest concentration of Tea Party voters in the state, and comes out with his racist crap, maybe we know where all the real racists live. Maybe that’s why Dylann was heading that way, in a path that kept him off I-26. Do you think the upstate Tea Party was the force behind Dylann? Could be!!

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The Colonel June 23, 2015 at 10:14 am

Maybe “Tea Partyists” aren’t really racists and he’ll have his head handed to him in the next election…

The POSIQ, Mr. Roof was headed to Shelby apparently because he has a sister living there.

Frank Right June 23, 2015 at 10:51 am

Spartanburg Tea Party is a unique blend. Not racist just nuts.

The Colonel June 23, 2015 at 10:53 am

Exactly my opinion.

Frank Right June 23, 2015 at 11:00 am

Read this morning Kerry Woods is working Walker campaign. If true, Spartanburg Tea Party will promote. Not saying I am a Walker fan. I am saying I think Woods will do more damage than good.

sparklecity June 23, 2015 at 2:01 pm

Karen Walker is actively involved and has posted so on the STP site – in fact she is taking some time off of her site to devote time to the Walker campaign………..

Frank Right June 23, 2015 at 2:12 pm

Let Walker meet her. Shine the media spotlight her direction. Let her answer tough questions on TV for all SC to see. Campaign tanked. Dumb move on Walker’s part.

sparklecity June 23, 2015 at 4:33 pm

Correction/TYPO!!!
I MEANT Karen Martin!!!
Sorry for the typo……….

sparklecity June 23, 2015 at 1:59 pm

As is mine……….
But some are WAY out there……….
Just visit the web site and go to a meeting or two……………

Rocky June 23, 2015 at 11:51 am

Nah! I view a large (not all) contingent of the Tea Party like this. When we elected the first African American President, we in a majority displayed race was behind us. But there was a vocal minority that had not. They had been quiet pretty much for a long time, but a black man, having sex with a black woman, in the White House. They blew their gaskets. They became extremely vocal. They migrated to the Tea Party. They couldn’t call him a nigger, though many did. They said things like he’s Communist, Socialist, Marxist, Kenyan, Muslim. The GOP hailed them as great Patriots. (At that point the GOP had approval ratings right up there with the clap, and other STDs) They’d take anyone support at that point. Remember, these are people who spit on former civil rights leaders now US Representatives when they walked to vote on Obamacare in early 2010. Of course today the racists are embarrassing them, so they don’t need them anymore. But they’re firmly entrenched in the Tea Party movement. Particularly in the South. Just my view……. what do I know.

sparklecity June 23, 2015 at 1:56 pm

I ain’t saying that everyone who flys the Rebel Flag is a racist but the easiest way to tell where they live is look for the Rebel flag flying in the yard………………..
I’ve seen one or two that were flying in the yard of some pretty nice houses out in the country but by and large it is the common redneck house/trailer scene we all know when we see it.
There is a saying in the GSP area: “You’ll never see a rebel flag flying in Silverleaf” (probably the most exclusive housing area in Greenville – Carroll Campbell used to live there)

Cotton Matters June 24, 2015 at 3:31 am

Silverleaf? It ain’t all that…..

Frank Right June 23, 2015 at 8:44 am

“darling” or puppet?

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sparklecity June 23, 2015 at 1:44 pm

When you are a darling of Karen Martin (who is Queen of the Spartanburg Tea Party) your ARE a puppet……….

Slartibartfast June 23, 2015 at 12:23 am

Colonel, I wish you were right, but his constituency thinks very much as he does.

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sparklecity June 23, 2015 at 2:03 pm

Only the ones who keep voting him in but the ones who stayed at home and did not vote are the ones to blame.

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9" June 22, 2015 at 8:43 pm

You should do more stories about the flag.

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2 step tango June 22, 2015 at 8:45 pm

lol…not bad +9 :)

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Say What? June 22, 2015 at 8:46 pm

Will: Sen. Bright is entitled to his opinion. However, as usual, he shows his stupidity. What is he going to do when those members of Greenwood American Legion Post 20 win their recently filed suit against the Heritage Act? It does not take a lawyer to quickly see that the legislature screwed up in the writing of the Act. Even dumbass Bright can see the hand writing on the wall.

Even if the legislature can twist arms in our courts, the suit will move to the Federal level where once again, the Act will be shown to violate the First Amendment. I cannot believe that the legislature’s attorneys wrote something that even a first year law student could see is unconstitutional.

I love the south and in particular South Carolina. I am a great great grandson of a Confederate solider. I was proud of the Confederate flag but as someone said, the Confederate flag that we know has been high jacked by a bunch of idiots, including Sen. Bright.

Folks of Spartanburg, it is time to dump this guy. He does not represent the citizens there.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 22, 2015 at 9:12 pm

Sad thing is….he’ll get re-elected in a landslide.

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Ed June 22, 2015 at 9:46 pm

What’s the deal with the lawsuit. First I have heard of it. Can you elaborate.

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Say What? June 22, 2015 at 10:03 pm

Google Greenwood War Monument. It has been on nation wide and international news for months. Heritage Act prevents Post 20 from replacing nameplates that list those killed by race. It is aginst the SC Constitution and the First Amendment of the U.S. constitution. It is a free speech issue!

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The Colonel June 23, 2015 at 8:26 am

Who’d a thunk Greenwood would make the news?

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euwe max June 22, 2015 at 9:45 pm

He should look into treatment – there are some causes of exophthalmos that can lead to blindness!

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euwe max June 22, 2015 at 9:47 pm

This is a wake-up call… how about this… we don’t make IQ a requirement for running for office, but everyone who runs has to take an IQ test, and post the result on their campaign materials.

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shifty henry June 22, 2015 at 11:50 pm

Add this: IQ tests for any Fitsnews commentators posting more than ten comments per month. Everybody gets the first ten gratis….

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shifty henry June 23, 2015 at 12:07 am

True Story: Many years back one of our neighbors was working towards her Masters when she was given the assignment to get 20 detailed IQ tests to submit to her Professor at USC. When she turned them in all 20 were Geniuses! She had to do 10 more to get some under the Genius category. All of us in the first group were university graduates in various occupations and with various interests, and many of us socialized within our neighborhood, thus the initial high scores. Several of us compared our tests to see where the differences were. One example was an engineer at Westinghouse who was extremely good at certain areas where I was not, and vice-versa. It was my first introduction to how folks’ abilities can fit (or not fit)into various occupations. Now it’s one reason I like Fitsnews. The commentators here can be categorized into a wide range, not of IQ but of interests, backgrounds, and knowledge.

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Slartibartfast June 23, 2015 at 12:17 am

Very nice.

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 23, 2015 at 5:11 am

“Talk radio this afternoon was filled with his constituents calling our legislative types, “treasonous.”

I wish I could enjoy their deep unhappiness, but the threshold to talk radio is one I do not pass.

euwe max June 23, 2015 at 5:18 am

I listen often — it is akin to piping the sounds of Republicans tormented in hell into our palaces in heaven.

euwe max June 23, 2015 at 1:20 am

OH NO! BLASPHEMY!

There are two things sacred in this world – and one of them is another man’s fries.

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shifty henry June 23, 2015 at 1:30 am

I had a girlfriend, a professional model with her own modeling school. My attorney met us for lunch one day at the Armadillo Oil Company and I had told him about one of her habits. He and I ordered the ribs with fries. She said she never eats fries. He kept waiting for her to reach over to his plate, “I’ll just try one!” Hah – she ended up eating about a fourth of them off each of our plates.

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Buddy Miles June 22, 2015 at 10:01 pm

It was the “Democratic” administration of Governor Hollings that put the flag on State grounds to begin with.
What’s with the damn quotation marks all the time anyway?

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vicupstate June 23, 2015 at 8:51 am

All elected statehouse officials in SC at the time, except perhaps one, were Democrats then. There political views may have differed but they all were Democrats, at least in name.

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climate3 June 22, 2015 at 10:53 pm

Broooother. There are actually some folks as tone deaf as Sen. Bright, i.e. claiming that those who want the flag’s removal aren’t “real Southerners.”

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Harold June 22, 2015 at 11:03 pm

The Civil war has begun in the General Assembly, Haley has fired the first shot….get the popcorn this is gonna be fun!!!

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 22, 2015 at 11:08 pm

Fratricide amongst GOPers! Fun to watch and no innocents in danger.

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RogueElephant June 22, 2015 at 11:04 pm

1. Nikki isn’t worried about SC any more. She is looking toward Washington after the election of 2016. So she can take a stand she wouldn’t have taken otherwise.
2. The requirement of the law placing the flag at the Confederate memorial requires a 2/3 vote of each house of the legislature. It might be easier said than done. That is a pretty high mark.
3. The race pimps will miss the flag as they will have to dream up something else to raise money for their “cause”. The flag was easy.

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Politics Rocks June 22, 2015 at 11:55 pm

Sen. Tom Davis is supporting the removal of the flag … game set match Mr. Bright

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It's time June 23, 2015 at 12:26 am

People like Bright are too idiotic to realize that a transcendent moment has given them a chance to resolve the flag problem without going out like a bunch of sore rascist losers on the wrong side of history. If he doesn’t want to get “purged” maybe he could start by voluntarily doing a half decent thing for a group of Christian martyrs whose families have shown nothing but love in the face of evil. Bright is lucky his dumb ass gets to inhabit the world they live in.

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Levine June 23, 2015 at 2:19 am

Take Lee Bright down

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Jan June 23, 2015 at 5:57 am

No doubt about it. The flag is coming down and the end of racism is here. After hundreds of years of American racism it is over. And to think, I was there!

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Fleet June 23, 2015 at 7:20 am

Bright rides the short bus.

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Frank Right June 23, 2015 at 9:01 am

Money’s tight. He rides the state bus.

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Nathan June 23, 2015 at 8:05 am

If the flag comes down, which will not be an easy, will racism end and Blacks start voting for White’s or just what exactly should black’s agree to end racism on their part? Or, will the Magnolia Tree be the next target to come down? And, will Obama, the Media, and Liberals start labeling all crimes/killings by both Black and White as heinous, tragic, etc. not just those of committed by White’s. just saying.

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Rocky June 23, 2015 at 8:28 am

Magnolia trees are messy and shed leaves all the time. I just had three cut down hate those things.

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Tunes'n'News June 23, 2015 at 8:24 am

I’ll bet he reads a lot, but has no critical reasoning skills. He thinks he’s wise,but he’s just a parrot.

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Rocky June 23, 2015 at 11:59 am

Dylann’s foster Dad.

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Rocky June 23, 2015 at 8:36 am

Guy looks like Bubbles from the Trailer Park Boys TV show, without the glasses. Anyway, I don’t give a crap what he says. The flag is coming down, and with it, his fixation on the tall narrow rod. And there’s nothing, not a damned thing, he can do about it.

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LadyBandwagon June 23, 2015 at 8:37 am

Ain’t it funny. After being pilloried all day long on the only political blog in SC of any consequence, Nikki surrounds herself with all the cover she can muster and publicly vacates and reverses the morally indefensible position she previously held on the disposition of the Confederate Flag on the Statehouse grounds. Today she is lauded by the national GOP for her action and is suddenly the new party darling for Veep.. Based upon his comments on the sudject, Rick Santorum has demonstrated once again that he is no Presidential Candidate, merely a walking talking incidence of that Frothy Mixture that occurrs when gay male lovers engage in enthusiastic, well lubricated anal intercourse. Lee Bright is a walking, talking advertisement for the humanitarian merits of euthanasia. Let’s hope the national media fixates on him, which will thoroughly ruin any fleeting positive feelings about theGOP here.

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brightisadeadbeat June 23, 2015 at 8:38 am

Penske Truck Leasing Co Lp VS On Time Transportation Inc , defendant, et alCase Number:2014CP4203294Court Agency:Common PleasFiled Date:08/25/2014Case Type:Common PleasCase Sub Type:Conf Judgment 770File Type:Non-JuryStatus:JudgmentAssigned Judge:Clerk Of Court C P, G S, And Family CourtDisposition:JudgmentDisposition Date:08/25/2014Disposition Judge:Clerk Of Court C P, G S, And Family CourtOriginal Source Doc:Original Case #:Judgment Number:2014CP4203294Court Roster:

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Click the icon to show associated parties.NameAddressRaceSexYear Of BirthParty TypeParty StatusLast UpdatedBright, LeeDefendant08/25/2014Darwin, A. Todd PO Box 1897 Spartanburg SC 29304Plaintiff Attorney08/25/2014Penske Truck Leasing Co LpPlaintiff08/25/2014On Time Transportation Inc 189 Becknell Drive Roebuck SC 29376Defendant01/06/2015On Time Transportation Inc 189 Becknell Drive Roebuck SC 29376Defendant Pro Se01/06/2015On Time Transportation Inc 189 Becknell Drive Roebuck SC 29376Defendant Pro Se01/06/2015On Time Transportation Inc 189 Becknell Drive Roebuck SC 29376Defendant01/06/2015Penske Truck Leasing Co LpPlaintiff08/25/2014Darwin, A. Todd PO Box 1897 Spartanburg SC 29304Plaintiff Attorney08/25/2014

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For:Penske Truck Leasing Co LpAgainst:On Time Transportation IncJudg. Amount:$24,487.59Judgment Date:08/25/2014Description:Judgment/ConfessionDisposition:Disp. Date:Date Entered/Last Changed08/25/2014 — Notes:NoneJudgment DetailsClaims CodeDetail Desc.Detail AmountDetail DateNoneFor:Penske Truck Leasing Co LpAgainst:Bright, LeeJudg. Amount:$24,487.59Judgment Date:08/25/2014Description:Judgment/ConfessionDisposition:Disp. Date:Date Entered/Last Changed08/25/2014 — Notes:NoneJudgment DetailsClaims CodeDetail Desc.Detail AmountDetail DateNone

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Click the icon to show associated parties.NameAddressRaceSexYear Of BirthParty TypeParty StatusLast UpdatedBright, LeeDefendant08/25/2014Darwin, A. Todd PO Box 1897 Spartanburg SC 29304Plaintiff Attorney08/25/2014Penske Truck Leasing Co LpPlaintiff08/25/2014On Time Transportation Inc 189 Becknell Drive Roebuck SC 29376Defendant01/06/2015On Time Transportation Inc 189 Becknell Drive Roebuck SC 29376Defendant Pro Se01/06/2015On Time Transportation Inc 189 Becknell Drive Roebuck SC 29376Defendant Pro Se01/06/2015On Time Transportation Inc 189 Becknell Drive Roebuck SC 29376Defendant01/06/2015Penske Truck Leasing Co LpPlaintiff08/25/2014Darwin, A. Todd PO Box 1897 Spartanburg SC 29304Plaintiff Attorney08/25/2014
For:Penske Truck Leasing Co LpAgainst:On Time Transportation IncJudg. Amount:$24,487.59Judgment Date:08/25/2014Description:Judgment/ConfessionDisposition:Disp. Date:Date Entered/Last Changed08/25/2014 — Notes:NoneJudgment DetailsClaims CodeDetail Desc.Detail AmountDetail DateNoneFor:Penske Truck Leasing Co LpAgainst:Bright, LeeJudg. Amount:$24,487.59Judgment Date:08/25/2014Description:Judgment/ConfessionDisposition:Disp. Date:Date Entered/Last Changed08/25/2014 — Notes:NoneJudgment Details

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Frank Right June 23, 2015 at 8:39 am

He blamed that on the government.

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brightisadeadbeat June 23, 2015 at 8:43 am

it is a result of a failed business man that welched on his debts. Yet, his constituents believe in his “leadership”……haha

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Frank Right June 23, 2015 at 8:46 am

The sum of 1.4 million or so.

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brightisadeadbeat June 23, 2015 at 8:44 am

the fat bastard can not even finance a piece of bubble gum

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Libtard June 23, 2015 at 9:18 am

This has nothing to do with the flag or right or wrong, its about election cycle politics. As soon as the Democrats made it a presidential campaign issue, Repubs got scared that they would be labeled racists in the wake of racially motivated killing. Coupled with the fact that you have a sycophant governor who would sell her soul to the devil for a VP nod, or future job anywhere in politics, and you have the perfect storm created for doing the politically expedient move of removing the flag.

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LadyBandwagon June 23, 2015 at 10:01 am

As an expression of contempt for the Roman Senate, Caligula appointed his horse to an official seat in that body. People in the area of Spartanburg have done Caligula one better by sending only the Horse’s Ass parts to Columbia.

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Southman3 June 23, 2015 at 10:11 am

Who keeps electing this short little fucker? Napoleon complex anyone?

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Reindeargirl June 23, 2015 at 10:34 am

I think someone needs to check and see if Lee took contributors from the Council of Conservative Citizens, the white supremacy group that influenced the shooter.

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Goobersmacker June 23, 2015 at 11:16 am

Bright Trash is White Trash.

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John C Hall Jr June 23, 2015 at 3:48 pm

Finally one of our own with the courage and backbone to resist the ongoing hatred against the South and it’s people. This man will remain in office and this will help him with the people of SC. As for the rest of the bunch just remember what we did to Roy Barnes in our State of Georgia…he was tared and feathered and run outta office for his back room dirty deal that removed the battle flag from our State…

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cmouse June 23, 2015 at 4:09 pm

So when are we going to start blaming Dylann Storm Roof for this instead of a flag? It’s obvious this young man is mentally unstable and needed professional assistance. He was a convicted felon and his father bought him a gun? We’re not looking at the right thing here.

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C.W. Roden June 23, 2015 at 4:21 pm

Richard Jewell, the security guard from the 1996 Olympic Park Bombing also had a Confederate flag plate on his car….yet he saved lives and protected others from harm. Believe me for every one of Roof who saw that flag as a novelty, there are a thousand other Jewells who actually honor that flag’s real heritage and live by example.

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Michael June 23, 2015 at 4:28 pm

No he was wearing a golds gym shirt and burning the American flag do we get rid of them as well

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Renee Clark June 23, 2015 at 4:52 pm

MYTH – The War of 1861 – 1865 was fought over slavery.

FACT – Terribly untrue. The North fought the war over money. Plain and simple. When the South started Secession, Lincoln was asked, “Why not let the South go in peace?” To which he replied, “I can’t let them go. Who would pay for the government?” Sensing total financial ruin for the North, Lincoln waged war on the South. The South fought the War to repel Northern aggression and invasion.

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Renee Clark June 23, 2015 at 4:53 pm

MYTH – Only Southerners owned slaves.

FACT – Entirely untrue. Many Northern civilians owned slaves. Prior to, during and even after the War Of Northern Aggression.

Surprisingly, to many history impaired individuals, most Union Generals and staff had slaves to serve them! William T. Sherman had many slaves that served him until well after the war was over and did not free them until late in 1865.

U.S. Grant also had several slaves, who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn’t free his slaves earlier, Grant stated “Good help is so hard to come by these days.”

Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased – they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!

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Renee Clark June 23, 2015 at 4:53 pm

MYTH – The Confederate Battle Flag was flown on slave ships.

FACT – NONE of the flags of the Confederacy or Southern Nation ever flew over a slave ship. Nor did the South own or operate any slaves ships. The English, the Dutch and the Portuguese brought slaves to this country, not the Southern Nation.

BUT, even more monumental, it is also very important to know and understand that Federal, Yankee, Union ships brought slaves to America! These ships were from the New England states, and their hypocrisy is atrocious.

These Federals were ones that ended up crying the loudest about slavery. But without their ships, many of the slaves would have never arrived here. They made countless fortunes on the delivery of slaves as well as the products made from raw materials such as cotton and tobacco in the South.

This is the problem with Yankee history History is overwhelmingly portrayed incorrectly by most of the Federal & Yankee books and media.

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Renee Clark June 23, 2015 at 4:55 pm

MYTH – The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.

FACT – The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and hoopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that vilify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.

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Renee Clark June 23, 2015 at 4:57 pm

The United States Flag represented freedom.FACT – No chance. The US flag flew over a slave nation for over 85 years! The North tolerated slavery and acknowledged it as a Division Of Labor. The North made a vast fortune on slavery and it’s commodities. It wasn’t until the South decided to leave the Union that the North objected. The North knew it could not survive without the Southern money. That is the true definition of hypocrisy.

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Ron June 23, 2015 at 5:51 pm

Ignorant rant. Do you people go to school?

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 23, 2015 at 7:05 pm

Myth — Renee’s irrelevances will make an iota of difference.

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Ricky Hano June 23, 2015 at 7:56 pm

Rocky, I see lots of folks on here are very Illiterate about Slavery the Confederate Flag and the good old Southern home land . To all that Bash the Confederate Flag and the South. Have shown how stupid and Illiterate you Morons are.

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Dustin M. Jacks June 23, 2015 at 8:36 pm

“COMMUNIST ABE”
Presented to U.S. Ambassador Charles Francis Adams
January 28, 1865 [A]

Written: by Marx between November 22 & 29, 1864
First Published: The Bee-Hive Newspaper, No. 169, November 7, 1865;
Transcription/Markup: Zodiac/Brian Baggins;
Online Version: Marx & Engels Internet Archive (marxists.org) 2000.

Sir:

We congratulate the American people upon your re-election by a large majority. If resistance to the Slave Power was the reserved watchword of your first election, the triumphant war cry of your re-election is Death to Slavery.

From the commencement of the titanic American strife the workingmen of Europe felt instinctively that the star-spangled banner carried the destiny of their class. The contest for the territories which opened the dire epopee, was it not to decide whether the virgin soil of immense tracts should be wedded to the labor of the emigrant or prostituted by the tramp of the slave driver?

When an oligarchy of 300,000 slaveholders dared to inscribe, for the first time in the annals of the world, “slavery” on the banner of Armed Revolt, when on the very spots where hardly a century ago the idea of one great Democratic Republic had first sprung up, whence the first Declaration of the Rights of Man was issued, and the first impulse given to the European revolution of the eighteenth century; when on those very spots counterrevolution, with systematic thoroughness, gloried in rescinding “the ideas entertained at the time of the formation of the old constitution”, and maintained slavery to be “a beneficent institution”, indeed, the old solution of the great problem of “the relation of capital to labor”, and cynically proclaimed property in man “the cornerstone of the new edifice” — then the working classes of Europe understood at once, even before the fanatic partisanship of the upper classes for the Confederate gentry had given its dismal warning, that the slaveholders’ rebellion was to sound the tocsin for a general holy crusade of property against labor, and that for the men of labor, with their hopes for the future, even their past conquests were at stake in that tremendous conflict on the other side of the Atlantic. Everywhere they bore therefore patiently the hardships imposed upon them by the cotton crisis, opposed enthusiastically the proslavery intervention of their betters — and, from most parts of Europe, contributed their quota of blood to the good cause.

While the workingmen, the true political powers of the North, allowed slavery to defile their own republic, while before the Negro, mastered and sold without his concurrence, they boasted it the highest prerogative of the white-skinned laborer to sell himself and choose his own master, they were unable to attain the true freedom of labor, or to support their European brethren in their struggle for emancipation; but this barrier to progress has been swept off by the red sea of civil war.

The workingmen of Europe feel sure that, as the American War of Independence initiated a new era of ascendancy for the middle class, so the American Antislavery War will do for the working classes. They consider it an earnest of the epoch to come that it fell to the lot of Abraham Lincoln, the single-minded son of the working class, to lead his country through the matchless struggle for the rescue of an enchained race and the reconstruction of a social world. [B]

Signed on behalf of the International Workingmen’s Association, the Central Council:

Longmaid, Worley, Whitlock, Fox, Blackmore, Hartwell, Pidgeon, Lucraft, Weston, Dell, Nieass, Shaw, Lake, Buckley, Osbourne, Howell, Carter, Wheeler, Stainsby, Morgan, Grossmith, Dick, Denoual, Jourdain, Morrissot, Leroux, Bordage, Bocquet, Talandier, Dupont, L.Wolff, Aldovrandi, Lama, Solustri, Nusperli, Eccarius, Wolff, Lessner, Pfander, Lochner, Kaub, Bolleter, Rybczinski, Hansen, Schantzenbach, Smales, Cornelius, Petersen, Otto, Bagnagatti, Setacci;

George Odger, President of the Council; P.V. Lubez, Corresponding Secretary for France; Karl Marx, Corresponding Secretary for Germany; G.P. Fontana, Corresponding Secretary for Italy; J.E. Holtorp, Corresponding Secretary for Poland; H.F. Jung, Corresponding Secretary for Switzerland; William R. Cremer, Honorary General Secretary.

18 Greek Street, Soho.

[A] From the minutes of the Central (General) Council of the International — November 19, 1864:

“Dr. Marx then brought up the report of the subcommittee, also a draft of the address which had been drawn up for presentation to the people of America congratulating them on their having re-elected Abraham Lincoln as President. The address is as follows and was unanimously agreed to.”

[B] The minutes of the meeting continue:

“A long discussion then took place as to the mode of presenting the address and the propriety of having a M.P. with the deputation; this was strongly opposed by many members, who said workingmen should rely on themselves and not seek for extraneous aid…. It was then proposed… and carried unanimously. The secretary correspond with the United States Minister asking to appoint a time for receiving the deputation, such deputation to consist of the members of the Central Council.”

Ambassador Adams Replies

Legation of the United States
London, 28th January, 1865

Sir:

I am directed to inform you that the address of the Central Council of your Association, which was duly transmitted through this Legation to the President of the United [States], has been received by him.

So far as the sentiments expressed by it are personal, they are accepted by him with a sincere and anxious desire that he may be able to prove himself not unworthy of the confidence which has been recently extended to him by his fellow citizens and by so many of the friends of humanity and progress throughout the world.

The Government of the United States has a clear consciousness that its policy neither is nor could be reactionary, but at the same time it adheres to the course which it adopted at the beginning, of abstaining everywhere from propagandism and unlawful intervention. It strives to do equal and exact justice to all states and to all men and it relies upon the beneficial results of that effort for support at home and for respect and good will throughout the world.

Nations do not exist for themselves alone, but to promote the welfare and happiness of mankind by benevolent intercourse and example. It is in this relation that the United States regard their cause in the present conflict with slavery, maintaining insurgence as the cause of human nature, and they derive new encouragements to persevere from the testimony of the workingmen of Europe that the national attitude is favored with their enlightened approval and earnest sympathies.

I have the honor to be, sir, your obedient servant,

Charles Francis Adams
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https://www.marxists.org/…/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm

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Ralph Tucker June 23, 2015 at 9:24 pm

Exactly the diversion they were going for. No matter the reason or the cost, The sheep are always led to slaughter.

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Southerngent1555 June 24, 2015 at 1:19 am

It has started and now the purge is moving across the South. Hate and ignorance march hand in hand, destroying any vestiges of the past which might lead people to seek liberty and Constitutional government again. Political pandering and lack of principles have almost destroyed our country.

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Logan June 24, 2015 at 3:13 am

God bless him. I’m behind him 100% and so are an overwhelming majority of South Carolinians.

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Bruce Cory June 24, 2015 at 2:49 pm

WTG !!! Lee Bright !! this is the left trying to kill everything southern and take away the 1st amendment rights of the South

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David June 24, 2015 at 5:28 pm

Who is Allison Griffor?

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tyronemamadontlikeLee June 26, 2015 at 10:15 am

Lee Bright is a hideous monster and one ugly bastard.

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