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SC “Snovember” Sparks Climate Change Debate

EARLIEST RECORDED PALMETTO STATE SNOWFALL IS … GLOBAL WARMING’S FAULT? By FITSNEWS || Just hours after the last Halloweeen trick-or-treaters succumbed to sugar exhaustion, the Midlands region of South Carolina got hit with its earliest recorded snowfall … prompting yet another debate over the veracity of global warming. Or “climate change,”…

EARLIEST RECORDED PALMETTO STATE SNOWFALL IS … GLOBAL WARMING’S FAULT?

By FITSNEWS || Just hours after the last Halloweeen trick-or-treaters succumbed to sugar exhaustion, the Midlands region of South Carolina got hit with its earliest recorded snowfall … prompting yet another debate over the veracity of global warming.

Or “climate change,” as the movement now prefers to be called …

Since the first recorded measurements were taken way back in 1880, there has never been snow in central South Carolina at such an early date.  The previous record for measurable accumulation in the Columbia, S.C. area was November 19, 1901.

Lexington County, S.C. got most of the white stuff – with some regions reporting accumulation of more than three inches.  Interstate 20 was briefly closed due to the storm, and thousands of residents remain without power.  Snow also fell in Greenville (the heart of South Carolina’s Upstate region) as well as several rural counties along the Interstate 26 corridor.

Prior to this system, the earliest recorded snowfall in Greenville occurred on November 11 (in 1968 and again in 1987).

In Asheville, N.C. – five inches fell in some areas.  Snow also blanketed the Great Smoky Mountains – with flurries dipping as far south as Atlanta.

And yeah, for those of you keeping score at home earlier this week South Carolina had three straight days of temperatures in the upper eighties.

Wow …

(Click to enlarge)

So … what gives?

Naturally global warming supporters blamed the early snowfall on … what else … “climate change.”  Because, as we’ve noted there is literally no weather phenomenon that doesn’t conform to their theory.

As we recently noted, it’s impossible to argue with supporters of global warming.

How come?

“Because every weather pattern they witness proves their point,” we wrote back in January. “Hot summer? Global warming. Mild summer? Global warming. Warm winter? Global warming. Frigid winter? Global warming. Whatever the thermostat is doing – and for however long it does it – supporters of global warming see nothing but the validation of their belief.”

“That’s cult-like behavior,” we added.

Does the data support this theory, though?

Not really. Global warming has been “paused” for the last eighteen years and one month, according to the latest data from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).

“The ‘Great Pause’ is the longest continuous period without any warming in the global instrumental temperature record since the satellites first watched in 1979,” noted Christopher Monckton, a British independent party leader and leading opponent of climate change. “It has endured for a little over half the satellite temperature record. Yet the Pause coincides with a continuing, rapid increase in atmospheric CO2 concentration.”

Then there’s the record amount of Antarctic sea ice extent – which actually trapped a carbon-powered vessel dispatched to the South Pole to cover (wait for it) … global warming.

And yes, the eco-radical leader of that expedition – who had to be rescued by a carbon-powered helicopter – blamed his boat getting stuck in the ice on global warming.

Look … we’re not your typical “climate deniers” (or whatever term the left wishes to employ to demonize those who question global warming). We believe in the three “R’s” – reduce, reuse and recycle – and we also believe sustainability is a critical component of good stewardship.

But that’s not what the “global warming” debate is about … it’s about extending the power of government over the marketplace, and the global redistribution of wealth.

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143 comments

Tom Simpson November 1, 2014 at 11:37 am

“Global Warming” means there is more energy available for weather to do crazy stuff…including snowing on 1 November.

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shifty henry November 1, 2014 at 12:06 pm

Howdy, Tom!

>>>>>>>>>>

The farmer was discussing buying a mule from his neighbor who asked, “What happened to Billy?” The farmer replied, “Well,
you know how hot it got a couple of days ago. So hot that my corn began to pop, and Billy thought it was snow and the damn fool froze to death.”

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Slartibartfast November 1, 2014 at 8:42 pm

Beer out the nose!!!!!!!

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Slartibartfast November 1, 2014 at 8:39 pm

Actually, the colder it gets, the greater the chance of crazy stuff happening on land. Cold water, cold troposphere make for fewer mid-Atlantic cyclones. Hot Sun on cold land creates storms. Physics Tom, physics.

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Famously Hot November 1, 2014 at 10:36 pm

This Sun is hot?

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TontoBubbaGoldstein November 1, 2014 at 11:41 am

Waiting for some version of the “Global Warming causes increasingly volatile weather which often includes colder weather wherever you may be/Weather is not climate/You are too stupid to understand the scientific complexities of Manmade Climate Change, so STFU rubes!” posts from the usual suspects.

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SCBlues November 1, 2014 at 4:47 pm

” . . . .posts from the usual suspects”
Posts from the usual suspects indeed (LOL) starting with FITS tossing out such gems as we’re not your typical “climate deniers” and that the global warming debate is about the global redistribution of wealth and then with a straight-face declares that the beliefs of global warming supporters are cult-like behavior.

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9" November 1, 2014 at 6:38 pm

Don’t worry.He’s got Ebola.

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FastEddy23 November 1, 2014 at 7:49 pm

So you suggest what? That g’ment should “do something”? That FITS should “do something”? That the taxpayer should “do something”?

What would you suggest be done? Fire the weatherman? Fire FITS? … Fire those lying scientist taxsuckers? ????

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Republican Follies November 1, 2014 at 9:05 pm

I suggest we keep electing intelligent people like Nikki Haley and Joe Wilson to office.

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FastEddy23 November 1, 2014 at 9:26 pm

LOL … As if:

One poli-wog will “fix it”? Or two? Or 535?

Save the planet? November 1, 2014 at 10:30 pm

That can’t even balance a budget let alone “balance” the global eco system…people suggesting otherwise have unbelievable hubris.

FastEddy23 November 5, 2014 at 11:43 am

… and thankfully so. Imaging what a horrible place Earth would be to live in if g’ment could “balance” the eco system. … Imaging your sunny weekend spoiled by The Post Office … or the Military.

“Never in history has increasing taxes changed the weather …” Thank God.

SCBlues November 2, 2014 at 9:34 am

“One poli-wog will “fix it”? Or two? Or 535?”
Let’s do NOTHING – in fact I do not even think that littering should be against the law. Think about how much money could be saved if everyone was allowed to simply throw all of their trash out the window as they drive down the road.
And while we’re at it, who needs clean water either?? Aren’t the scientists that advocate for clean water the same frauds that are perpetuating the global warming hoax?? A little dirty water never hurt anyone – in fact it might toughen up the constitution of some of those pussy tree-huggers!

TontoBubbaGoldstein November 2, 2014 at 8:15 pm

Think about how much money could be saved if everyone was allowed to simply throw all of their trash out the window as they drive down the road.

You mind explaining the money saving aspects of this in a little more detail for ol’ TBG.
Thanks.

SCBlues November 2, 2014 at 10:12 pm

“You mind explaining the money saving aspects of this in a little more detail for ol’ TBG.
Thanks.”
Sure – no dumpsters – no trash pick-up – just let it all rot.
You’re welcome.

TontoBubbaGoldstein November 3, 2014 at 5:34 am

just let it all rot.

*Gasps* You’re against diversified, sustainable, local biodegradation??

Good answer, BTW.

TontoBubbaGoldstein November 2, 2014 at 8:20 pm

Let’s do NOTHING…

Often far and away the best option….

http://www.despair.com/indecision.html

Smirks November 3, 2014 at 9:11 am

It’s because government passes regulations that factories dump their waste in our rivers! If the government stopped regulating them they would totes stop poisoning our waterways!

God, why don’t you libruls get it through your skull? Corporations are people and they have our best interests in mind!

FastEddy23 November 5, 2014 at 11:59 am

Actually it is g’ment regulations that g’ment itself does not abide … Here in the west the biggest polluters are g’ment.

SomalianRoadCorp November 3, 2014 at 3:16 pm

sooo many fallacies

FastEddy23 November 4, 2014 at 11:47 am

Granted, doing nothing might be the best solution. But if someone is dirtying my drinking water, I may clean and lubricate my Second Amendment Rights.

As thing are, the biggest polluter IS government. Got a another war in the middle east? Got a “super-fund” that funds lawyers but not cleanup? Got an Air Force making smoke and seeding clouds?

FastEddy23 November 5, 2014 at 11:57 am

“… Let’s do NOTHING – in fact I do not even think that littering should be against the law. …”

OK by me.

“… Aren’t the scientists that advocate for clean water the same frauds that are perpetuating the global warming hoax? …”

Some yes, some no. … And I’m a tree-hugger myself … Here in Taxifornia the state road (re)builders (CalTrans) have cut down more than 10,000 trees to widen highway 101 from SF to 50 miles north … and no body seems to know where the recent drought came from exactly.

SCBlues November 2, 2014 at 9:17 am

“So you suggest what? ”
Oh – I don’t know FastEddy – I guess for folks like you I’d suggest that you just continue to sit on your fat ass and slurp up everything those scientists over at FOX feed to you and not do a damn thing. ‘Cause that is exactly what you’ll do – no matter what. Everyone should do nothing – absolutely nothing. Happy now, FastEddy?
“Fire the weatherman?”
Uh . . . not sure what to say on this one FastEddy – I guess if you think Al Roker needs to go then let’s go ahead and get rid of him – will that make you feel better too, FastEddy?
“Fire FITS?
Well, I never hired FITS in the first place – and generally do not look to FITS to inform me on most subjects – well, any subject.
And the band played on . . . . .

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TontoBubbaGoldstein November 2, 2014 at 8:26 pm

I … generally do not look to FITS to inform me on most subjects…

Why on earth would you?

You’ve already got Mike at the Beach and TBG.

*smiles*

And the band played on . . . . .

“Rocky Top”?

Mike at the Beach November 2, 2014 at 8:32 pm

…and we don’t have ads!

SCBlues November 2, 2014 at 10:14 pm

“…and we don’t have ads!”
I’m not so surprised.

SCBlues November 2, 2014 at 10:16 pm

“You’ve already got Mike at the Beach and TBG.”
That’s right, Teach!

FastEddy23 November 5, 2014 at 11:50 am

Actually, you can read my missives and mistakes re: the global worms starting about here: “Hell will freeze over before BBC eco-zealots broadcast the truth” ( linked thru from another blog: http://www.goldtalk.com/forum/showpost.php?p=349744&postcount=1754 )

Smirks November 3, 2014 at 9:09 am

What would you suggest be done?

Government encouraging growth of green energy industries. Government encouraging increasing energy efficiency. Government funding discovery of alternative sources of energy, or increasing efficiency of current methods, through grants. Things like that, where government introduces a positive force in pushing green energy ahead. A good bit of this is already being done today.

Cap and trade I wouldn’t support because I don’t see it as a positive force, and it would negatively impact families.

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Smirks November 3, 2014 at 9:04 am

Surprised Willie and the other commenters aren’t trotting out the usual Republican cop out of “I’m not a scientist…”

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Ozone in your brain November 3, 2014 at 10:53 am

Yes, because we know that you’d never admit that you’re unqualified to have an opinion either way.

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Ozone in your brain November 3, 2014 at 10:53 am

Yes, because we know that you’d never admit that you’re unqualified to have an opinion either way.

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Smirks November 3, 2014 at 9:02 am

Lexington’s snow was caused by a rare set of conditions that favored snow, and those conditions only lasted a couple of hours. Basing a single instance (not even a pattern) of multiple conditions coalescing on a small area the size of a few counties to disprove global warming is really, really stupid.

Keep in mind the right assailed the “polar vortex” as something invented to explain the severe cold weather we had not too long ago, which caused Al Roker to bust out a textbook from the fucking 1950s to prove it wasn’t just made up.

There is shit understanding of weather and climate by the general public and various pundits on both sides, but the simple fact remains that a vast majority of scientists DO generally accept the idea that climate change is real, and that humans are making it worse. That doesn’t sit well with the right because they are beholden to various fossil fuel industries and will fight global warming tooth and nail even if 100% of scientists agree.

But no, the vast majority of scientists are the ones that are being paid to release biased reports! It’s the minority of scientists who get funding from Big Oil and the coal industry that have it right, they are totally not bought and have no reason to lie!

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Ozone in your brain November 3, 2014 at 10:13 am

There is no topic under which you lack expertise.

You are truly impressive.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein November 3, 2014 at 5:51 pm

Took you long enough to post this [just as TBG predicted], Chief.

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Soft Sigh from Hell November 1, 2014 at 11:54 am

Conservative fringers think freakish (i.e., fringe) weather equates to average weather (=climate) and its trends. Because their total personal experience with CO2 involves cold beverages (or, rarely, frosty CO2 fire extinguishers or dry ice) they cannot comprehend its being associated with any type of warming. It’s beyond con ken.

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FastEddy23 November 1, 2014 at 7:43 pm

Mmmmm … And three or four years in a row of colder than normal winter? How about the record breaking size of the Antarctic Polar Ice Cap? Or maybe you have noticed that South Carolina has not had a significant hurricane since Sandy?

Is the climate changing? Or is it just going through another cycle of extremes?

One thing for sure! Never in history has increasing taxes changed the climate.

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idcydm November 1, 2014 at 11:56 am

“the science is settled” has to be the most unscientific statement ever made.

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Bible Thumper November 1, 2014 at 10:28 pm

The science is settled. Fortunately, the earth won’t cooperated.

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Fits Ain't No Republican November 1, 2014 at 11:59 am

A Typical Republican like comment.

Of course, we all KNOW that Fits quit them a long time ago.

We also know that Mark Sanford is a paragon of conservative values,Joe Wison is a smart man,Richard Eckstrom is a traditional family type fellow and Nikki Haley is honest as the day is long!

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GrandTango November 1, 2014 at 12:20 pm

Looks like FITS has been over at SCPSD, lifting ideas. Nice job. Have you seen the new site, yet? Check it out.

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CorruptionInColumbia November 1, 2014 at 12:34 pm

I know. It’s a wonder FitsNews survived this long before your blog came along.

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GrandTango November 1, 2014 at 12:59 pm

Good point… adding posts about food allergies, and yuppie spas….w/ kick-backs from convicted drug felons, and dis-honest Democrat Trial Lawyers… is the epitome of success. …especially w/ brain -dead dumb-@$$ sycophants – like you- who’ll suck on anything FITS throws out there…as long as he tells you how smart yall are… (:

PS: How are all of those great candidates FITS turned you onto doing???…LMAO….

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idcydm November 1, 2014 at 1:11 pm

You really know how to get people to go to your site…LAMO…

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GrandTango November 1, 2014 at 3:14 pm

I hate to say this, but there are not too many on this site, considering the number of gullible Dumb@$$#$ FITS is admired by, that would appreciate my site.

I just like to poke y’all, FITS – and the stupid-@$$ politicians you drool over. I get a charge out of it when you get so P!$$#d off you crap your pants. And most of you attack me. You hardly ever have a defense for the ignorant S#!t you promote….

FITS pretty much preaches to the choir of ignorance…I like to provoke you Dip$#!ts on your turf….it keeps me sharp and motivated.

idcydm November 1, 2014 at 3:24 pm

lolcow…The only thing sharp about you is the point of your head.

grandtangosuglydog November 1, 2014 at 3:33 pm

what dipshit is really saying is she is so insecure she feels she has to constantly get attention, even if it is all negative and her only way to get attention is to scream at everyone and act like the biggest asshole in the world. Unfortunately for all of us her site is a total failure so she will continue to scream in the corner hoping someone will notice her and that in some twisted troll like way makes her feel as though she has friends..even though no one either on this site or in her life outside of trolling would give two shits if she jumped off a bridge tomorrow.

Squishy123 November 1, 2014 at 6:30 pm

Ha!!! Emily talking about nobody on someone else’s blog. The only person on her site the last time I checked (months ago) was her. If she got a half-dozen regulars she might be able to compete with Brad Warthen.

grandtangosuglydog November 1, 2014 at 1:55 pm

No One has seen the site as its a ghost town, hence why you spend all your time on this site. It must be a total failure if you spend all day everyday on this site, and with your reputation as one of the worst trolls ever along with the knowledge you are a liar and total weirdo, with the worst political prediction record ever, i dont see much chance of that changing.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein November 1, 2014 at 3:48 pm

Tango is merely applying the Bush Doctrine. He fights us over here so that he won’t have to fight us over there [@ his blog].

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Squishy123 November 1, 2014 at 6:28 pm

Don’t know the website address, don’t really care… it’s probably the same bullshit in a prettier layout and you over there talking to yourself.

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Native Ink November 1, 2014 at 1:25 pm

I’d rather learn about science from scientists rather than from political websites.

This reminds me of the B.S. political debates about cigarette smoking that had nothing to do with what the scientists had known for decades.

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jtom November 2, 2014 at 8:44 am

That’s fine. The best science blog is Wattsupwiththat.com. Take a look at the debate there. If you go to any blog site promoting CAGW, guess what you will find; a political debate!

Over 18 years with no warming. Of that,there is no debate. That’s just data. The best anyone can say is, IF atmospheric CO2 causes x degree of warming, then it will be x degrees warmer than it would OTHERWISE be, and we have no idea what that would be.

Clearly, all the predicted catastrophes are simply not coming true.

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Native Ink November 2, 2014 at 4:01 pm

Duh. Any blog will be filled with comments from deniers.

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Native Ink November 2, 2014 at 4:36 pm

Obviously you haven’t read the science.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/no-warming-in-16-years.htm

The great thing about reading scientists talking about science is that they don’t have an ax to grind or a perspective they’re trying to fit the facts to. It’s interesting reading, unlike the denialism B.S., which like I said earlier, sounds just like the B.S. people spouted when they said cigarettes don’t kill you.

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Smirks November 3, 2014 at 8:55 am

Of course cigarettes don’t cause cancer. I know one guy who didn’t get cancer even though he smoked, so obviously the science isn’t settled! Also, the cigarette companies have paid for a panel of scientists who found it doesn’t cause cancer, so yeah.

We can totally trust the tobacco industry’s paid scientist panel, but we can’t trust government paid scientists who say it does cause cancer because they’re obviously biased because they don’t want to lose government funding.

The tobacco industry’s scientists have no such vested interest, because, uhh… well…

SomalianRoadCorp November 3, 2014 at 3:08 pm

And the industry of grant-funded scientists don’t have hidden interests as well?

ELCID November 1, 2014 at 2:10 pm

Global Warming caused by humans is one of the biggest lies of the past 20 years.
If it’s too hot, humans caused it.
If it’s too cold humans caused it.
BS!!!
Humans didn’t cause the: Ozone Hole, Y2K or any other of these Chicken Little Lies.
When every professional Engineer and Meteorologist in the world that is not getting paid from Government Grants or Wall Street backed Carbon Credit Crooks tells you it’s a lie. Then it is a lie.
There’s been no increase in world or US temperatures in the past 19 years.
Even the founder of Greenpeace and the head of NOAA said it’s crap.
This is damnable propaganda at its worse.
With absolutely no scientific evidence to back it up at all.

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Republican Follies November 1, 2014 at 2:21 pm

It’s always enjoyable to see a Republican talking about Science.

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Beartrkkr November 1, 2014 at 5:24 pm

They might go after the round earthers soon.

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shifty henry November 1, 2014 at 6:01 pm

The teacher asked Little Johnny: “How can you prove the earth is round?”

Little Johnny replied: “I can’t. Besides, I never said it was.”

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Mike at the Beach November 2, 2014 at 10:28 pm

It’s not enjoyable watching knuckleheads who actually believe one political party has a lock on stupid. Maybe we should let this guy do our climate science for us…geology is a related science and he sure as shit has that down pat:

http://youtu.be/xM1QtyZvn04

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Smirks November 3, 2014 at 9:19 am

Oh, stupidity isn’t limited to the Republican party, not at all. It’s just that it is in much higher concentrations among the GOP thanks to Fox News watchers and the dittoheads.

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Mike at the Beach November 3, 2014 at 11:28 pm

Come on, friend…have you watched the shrill, angry misfits on MSNBC lately? Idiots are everywhere, people simply want to associate with other idiots who share their brand of stupid, that’s all. It’s psychology 101.

SomalianRoadCorp November 3, 2014 at 3:19 pm

Its always enjoyable watching the left wing preach others about the virtues of the AGW religion

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Centrist View November 1, 2014 at 2:33 pm

Y2K was a software issue. So, maybe humans did cause it.

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idcydm November 1, 2014 at 2:51 pm

Not much of an issue but there sure was a lot of hype.

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Iftheyonlyknew November 1, 2014 at 4:33 pm

Pre Windows Update days, and a mgmt structure that didn’t want to automate patching at the time, made for lousy night for me. Inherited one of our locations at the last minute, and found not a one had been touched. Hype it may have been, but my Dec 31, 1999 sucked. One of those, “or by the way, gonna need you to cover this. The jackass that should have done it never had a word said to him.

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Tazmaniac November 1, 2014 at 5:04 pm
idcydm November 1, 2014 at 5:06 pm

Thank you, sometimes there are those that have to sacrifice for the good of all.

Smirks November 3, 2014 at 9:32 am

“Oh, by the way, we’re going to need you to come in on Sunday, too. Mmmm, yeah…”

RogueElephant November 1, 2014 at 3:36 pm

All global warming, global cooling, or climate change has ever been about is increasing govt. control of our lives. Therefore anyone who gives any credence to it is brainwashed at best and stupid at worst. You can’t fix stupid.

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idcydm November 1, 2014 at 3:47 pm

You have to admit global warming was a pretty slick way for the government to tell us what kind of light bulbs we have to buy.

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Republican Follies November 1, 2014 at 3:59 pm

Well,you can vote for Nikki Haley.

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9" November 1, 2014 at 6:42 pm

Thanks for providing an example,Mr Science.

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Soft Sigh from Hell November 1, 2014 at 5:00 pm

“If it’s too hot, humans caused it.
If it’s too cold humans caused it.”

Learned it from big business cons. For example:

Con timber cutter’s management “science” for national forests:

“It hasn’t burned in ages, there is too much fuel built up, we need more new logging roads [at taxpayer expense] and clear-cutting.”

“It’s burning! We need more new logging roads [at taxpayer expense] and clear-cutting.”

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Money makes the world go round November 1, 2014 at 6:20 pm

Global warming, or climate change, or whatever they are going to call it in the future certainly has the best scientists money can buy.

Certainly, pols can’t be enjoying the hype knowing all the tax money they can get as a result….(beyond what’s already been grabbed)

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Ozone in my brain November 1, 2014 at 6:18 pm

“Ozone Hole”

You know what’s funny about that one? There never was a “hole” in the Ozone, there was a layer missing for a while(it’s got multiple layers), then it returned to its “normal” size…lol

Remember all the hysteria surrounding that one for a while?

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RHood2 November 2, 2014 at 12:52 am

Remember all those CFCs that were banned, and then the ozone layer returned?
Was that a miracle from God?
Coincidence?
Because there’s no other possible explanation, is there?

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Ozone in your brain November 2, 2014 at 3:50 am

Try to keep up partner:

“and then the ozone layer returned?”

that’s why I put “normal” in quotes…it hasn’t:

“The banning of ozone-depleting chemicals hasn’t yet caused detectable improvements in the Antarctic ozone hole, new research suggests.
Instead, changes in the South Pole’s ozone hole from year-to-year are likely the result of natural variations in wind patterns”

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/despite-cfc-ban-ozone-hole-wont-heal-until-2070-nasa-f2D11736034

So are you just making stuff up now?

The funny thing is, scientists received a “Nobel Prize” for this crap, like Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize.

Funny thing is, this guy had it almost exactly right back in 09′ and he’s a nobody:

http://www.godismyjudgeok.com/CFCs.php

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jtom November 2, 2014 at 8:52 am

Once they accept a new commandment to their religion (DDT is bad, man caused the ozone hole, man is causing climate change), it cannot be changed, regardless of new scientific understanding. They can not evolve.

Smirks November 3, 2014 at 9:30 am

The banning of ozone-depleting chemicals hasn’t yet caused detectable improvements in the Antarctic ozone hole

Antarctica’s ozone hole has multiple causes, not just from CFCs, dumbass.

http://uv.biospherical.com/student/page2.html

Scientists have already seen improvements in the ozone layer’s depletion as a whole and expect it to recover over the next several decades, maybe sooner if the developing countries start cleaning up their shit too.

Ozone in your brain November 3, 2014 at 10:03 am

“The banning of ozone-depleting chemicals hasn’t yet caused detectable improvements in the Antarctic ozone hole”

Who’s the dumbass you stupid communist? Can you not read?

Tell me where the manufacture outrage was other than the ozone over the Antarctic?

Was there some ozone depletion over Europe or some other major continent going on at the time?

No, there wasn’t. You’re talking out your commie asshole.

Slartibartfast November 1, 2014 at 8:47 pm

CID! Y2K caused the ozone hole which let out cow farts and slowed global warming! Unicorns are real! Al Gore isn’t fat! Kit Marlowe wrote all of Milton’s poetry – even after his bar-fight!

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Gorean inverted hockey stick November 1, 2014 at 10:34 pm

The irony of Al Gore leading the warming hysteria is that when his carbon footprint was measured it was a ridiculous figure compared to the average Joe.(20 times to be exact)

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Al-Gores-Hipocrisy-The-Climate-Crusader-Profits-from-Fossil-Fuels.html

Just like most of our nations laws, they are for the little people, not the big ones.

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Smirks November 3, 2014 at 9:17 am

Humans didn’t cause the: Ozone Hole

Holy shit, you guys are really anti-science aren’t you?

For fucks sake, they found a hole in the ozone layer above China years ago and even fucking China decided maybe it should stop using ozone-depleting shit. This is the same country that has rivers horribly contaminated with all kinds of toxins from factories that just dump whatever into them.

I swear, the Republican party is becoming the party of cave men.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein November 3, 2014 at 5:56 pm

Humans didn’t cause..Y2K…

TBG is on your side, but…

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RogueElephant November 1, 2014 at 3:33 pm

WOW. Snow on Nov. 1, If they don’t fix global warming we are all going to freeze to death. LOL

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SCBlues November 1, 2014 at 7:42 pm

“WOW. Snow on Nov. 1, If they don’t fix global warming we are all going to freeze to death. LOL”
What’s funny is that the joke is on you but you do not even realize it . . .

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idcydm November 1, 2014 at 8:24 pm

What’s funny, how politicized this has become.
What’s funny how stupid the conversation, if you can call it conversation, has become.

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Bible Thumper November 1, 2014 at 10:21 pm

What is sad is how politicized science has become.

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SCBlues November 2, 2014 at 9:21 am

“What is sad is how politicized science has become”
What is sad is how science is ignored for political purposes.

Smirks November 3, 2014 at 9:49 am

Has been for decades. Tobacco industry, coal industry, radium paint, cane/corn sugar industries, etc.

The culprits of what is hurting others don’t want to face the financial costs (or even ruin) of fixing that harm because they are terrible human beings that put profit and greed above prosperity of the human race, so they trick people into believing it is actually harmless and they are victims of evil scientists with an axe to grind.

“Sugar consumption isn’t one of the main contributors to obesity!”

“This doctor I paid says that this woman’s illnesses aren’t related to radium!”

“This doctor I paid says that this patient may not actually have black lung, so we shouldn’t have to pay for his medical treatment. Oh, he died and the autopsy undeniably proved he did have black lung? Oh, well, we can’t comment on that.”

The people who come to believe this crap don’t want to face being wrong about believing it, so they take every tiny speck of evidence to the contrary as overwhelming evidence that the mountain of scientific evidence behind the general theory is wrong.

“It snowed, therefore global warming doesn’t reals.”

“My uncle smoked and didn’t get cancer, therefore tobacco-related illnesses don’t reals.”

It’s just another example of the human condition and how the worst of humanity can really bring out the worst in humanity.

SCBlues November 2, 2014 at 9:36 am

“What’s funny, how stupid the conversation, if you can call it conversation, has become.”
Glad you could join the conversation, Stupid! LOL

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idcydm November 2, 2014 at 9:40 am

Thanks for proving my point.

SCBlues November 2, 2014 at 11:21 am

“Thanks for proving my point.”
LOL Yet here you are still contributing to the stupid conversation.
Oh the irony! (But I’ll bet you don’t believe in irony either, huh?)

Smirks November 3, 2014 at 9:36 am

You know what they say about boiling a frog slowly. The occasional cooler winters don’t matter if the overall trend is still going up. But that takes more brain power than “OH IT SNOWED TAKE THAT GLOBAL WARMING SCIENTISTS!”

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tomstickler November 1, 2014 at 4:04 pm

Reminds me of Pavlov’s dogs.

Will rings a global warming bell to see who is slobbering.

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E Norma Scok November 1, 2014 at 4:12 pm

So who was debating about it that you said was sparked?

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RHood2 November 1, 2014 at 5:05 pm

People who know the SCIENCE of global warming know that the weather on any given day does not prove the science. Climate and weather are two very different things.

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Slartibartfast November 1, 2014 at 8:57 pm

But they both have something to do with each other. NOAA’s AGW climate model is so bad, the GFS is continually incorrect, except within 4 hours of the event. I’m sorry.. too much science for you?

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Bible Thumper November 1, 2014 at 10:18 pm

They are not that different. Climate is cumulative weather.

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Slartibartfast November 1, 2014 at 5:10 pm

There are three words that completely destroy the Climate change argument: Spencer, D’Aleo, Bastardi.

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JK November 1, 2014 at 5:19 pm

This is, seriously, one of the most moronic posts I have ever read on this site and pretty much undermines your credibility on everything. All you really accomplish with a post like this is to attract comments from people also showing their ignorance. Do you even try to understand the science? I suspect not because it’s really not that hard.

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Republican Follies November 1, 2014 at 7:23 pm

No he doesn’t.

His purpose was simply to stir up the Usual Suspects.

He succeeded.

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9" November 1, 2014 at 6:11 pm

You might want to talk to some Polar Bears about this…

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FastEddy23 November 1, 2014 at 7:56 pm

BTW did you see the footage of Al Gore’s camera crew killing that polar bear? How inconvenient.

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euwe max November 1, 2014 at 8:00 pm

The environment is a liberal hoax.

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Bible Thumper November 1, 2014 at 10:15 pm

In regard to environment, liberals are conservative.

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Melvin November 1, 2014 at 9:00 pm

A million years ago the earth was a boiling cauldron of flowing lava, and there were no humans driving SUVS. Only the demented hubris of liberals who think they can stop the power of the sun allows such delusion to think man can somehow “hurt” the earth. Get your damn Prius out of the way of my Suburban you Moonie greenie freaks.

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Republican Follies November 1, 2014 at 9:11 pm

No it wasn’t.

It didn’t even exist.

Just ask your Partys leading Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee.

Instead of rambling around in your Surburban,you really ought to read your Bible more.

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Bible Thumper November 1, 2014 at 10:01 pm

Try knowing what you’re saying before you comment. A weak mind leans heavily on ignorant stereotypes.
Who said Melvin is a Republican? Who said he is a Christian? Plenty of people doubt “Climate change” who are neither. All you need to debunk “Climate change” is an understanding of science.

Huckabee is not the leading candidate.

CNN – However, when pressed about whether he believed in a literal interpretation of the timeline laid out in Genesis — that God created the world in six days about 6,000 years ago — Huckabee said, “I don’t know.”

“Whether God did it in six days or whether he did it in six days that represented periods of time, he did it. And that’s what’s important.” — Huckabee.

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Smirks November 3, 2014 at 9:34 am

“Well the sun and lava are hot too, so climate change doesn’t reals.”

lol…

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Bible Thumper November 1, 2014 at 9:32 pm

Scientists make many wonderful discoveries, but they have an awful record of predicting the future. The MSM also falls for the most dire predictions.
1. Silent winter
2. Peak Oil
3. Population explosion.
4. Hundreds of thousands of people will die from Ebola.

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Mike at the Beach November 1, 2014 at 10:56 pm

Here’s a good recent article from (dare I say it) a scientist, who summarizes the data pretty well. It’s a narrow slice piece (centering on the threat to park sites), but has some great info. It also mentions Charleston, SC.

http://fabiusmaximus.com/2014/10/30/climate-change-good-news-botkin-72571/

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idcydm November 1, 2014 at 11:44 pm

Thanks, I also found it interesting how they came up with their 97%.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-determine-the-scientific-consensus-on-global-warming/

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Mike at the Beach November 2, 2014 at 12:41 am

That was an interesting take…

It sets the anthropogenic warming / climate change crowd’s heads on fire, but I like to remind myself occasionally that the vast majority of scientists once believed the Earth was the center of the universe (or wouldn’t say otherwise within earshot of the Roman Catholic church, anyway, which is a pretty neat analogy for the current pressure that teh “climate change orthodoxy” puts on the collective scientific community). Even within climate science there are clues that the party line is patched together: Failure to predict (or explain, even) the “pause” that is turning into something other than a pause, the debacle of the hyperbolic Antarctic ice level predictions, etc. Hell, “science” can’t decide whether if salt is bad for us or not. This is, of course, not the fault of scientists, but of the politicization of the funding process, academic publishing, and a general lack of understanding that what most mainstream folks call “science” is (by design) a moving target.

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Mike at the Beach November 2, 2014 at 12:47 am

True enough, but not that simple. Down below, the Antarctic ice is at record levels. Even the climate folks admit they’re absolutely baffled that fact (not a single one of their dozens of models predicted, or can explain now even with the new data inputted). Ice Ages, long droughts, and huge climatic shifts waaaay pre-date the human age (and especially the Industrial Age).

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9" November 2, 2014 at 5:43 pm

I disagree,but not strongly.In the grand scheme of things,humans are most likely a small blip on the screen.
I’m now leaning toward the ‘side’ that Indians were not the first Americans,but European.Fairly recent archaeological finds in Florida convinced me.

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Mike at the Beach November 2, 2014 at 6:06 pm

It’s hard to argue that ice ages and major climate shifts don’t pre-date humans, but like you I don’t get too worked up about this stuff. The majority of public scientists (who must behave and conform to a certain level of orthodoxy if they want to get published and funded) can’t accurately predict hurricane seasons, sea level increases, explain the “pause” or Antartctic ice levels, so I’ll let them figure themselves out as the pause continues and warming (where it does occur) continues to increase much too slowly for the amount of CO2 emitted, even according to their own models.

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Mike at the Beach November 2, 2014 at 8:31 pm

Again, agreed. Still bears no relevance to ice age history, which date back to the Huronian (2 billion-ish years ago), Cryogenian (700-million-ish years ago, Andean-Saharan (425 million-ish years ago), Karoo (250-350 million-ish years ago) and the current cycle, the Quaternary (2.5 million-ish years ago).

9" November 2, 2014 at 9:51 pm

But it does bear relevance to Art History,which is hugely important to man’s history.Your numbers are irrelevant,when talking about the first Americans,and I’m not that easily snowed,so to speak..

Mike at the Beach November 2, 2014 at 10:16 pm

Mmmmmkay…obviously we were in different conversations. I thought we were talking about the climate…my bad.

BottomsUp November 2, 2014 at 3:29 am

All this weather change of late might be caused by the excessive use of ethanol in our gasoline. Alcohol needs to be imbibed, not blown out through your tailpipe.

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ClimateChangeIsReal November 2, 2014 at 9:22 am

Spoken like a real wacko:

“that’s not what the “global warming” debate is about … it’s about extending the power of government over the marketplace, and the global redistribution of wealth.”

http://www.wistv.com/story/27185768/un-climate-report-offers-stark-warnings-hope

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/basics/facts.html

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Bible Thumper November 2, 2014 at 10:47 am

IPCC — The period from 1983 to 2012, it says, was likely the warmest 30 year period of the last 1,400 years.

If this is true, then where are the famines, the drops in agricultural production, the flooded coastal cities. Where are the impacts that would justify government taxes and regulation of fossil fuels?

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Manray November 2, 2014 at 11:14 am

If it snowed in SC on November 1st, isn’t that indicative of climate change?

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Soft Sigh from Hell November 2, 2014 at 2:22 pm

Scientists frequently make mistakes in predictions, but businessmen and their paid shills–technical and political–frequently lie. One might go so far as to say typically lie when they see losing some money or even convenience over it.

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Bible Thumper November 2, 2014 at 4:31 pm

Scientists may lie if there is a pot research money availiable for climate change or if “Climate Change” is the only politically correct possition possible at their liberal university or agency.

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Soft Sigh from Hell November 3, 2014 at 6:43 pm

Science is probably the best self-correcting system humans have devised. There is some rigor expected. There is nothing a scientist likes better than to disprove a theory.

It is conservatives who never want to change opinions. And, as you bring up the topic, conservatives who mostly fill the ranks of Holocaust deniers and continued racists.

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Smirks November 3, 2014 at 8:50 am

Rare conditions leading to snow in early November in one small part of SC? Yup, disproves the entirety of global warming.

I’m glad as hell the rest of science doesn’t get this goober version of the scientific method applied to it.

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Alfred E. Gore November 3, 2014 at 9:12 am

Manbearpig spotted in Red Bank!!!!!

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urbantrout November 3, 2014 at 10:52 am

“Climate change” is redundant….what the hell do you think climate is? A constant state of weather variation. These brain dead college kids, socialists and fuzzy headed liberals may as well wring their hands and wail about “gravity pull”.

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Hand me my moon boots November 3, 2014 at 10:55 am

lol…the irony of your comment IS that they were actually whining about the change in gravity due to melting ice caps…it would be comically stupid if there weren’t so serious about taxing everyone/thing over it.

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Hand me my moon boots November 3, 2014 at 10:55 am

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Hand me my moon boots November 3, 2014 at 10:55 am

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Soft Sigh from Hell November 3, 2014 at 7:58 pm

What a loon.
The change in gravity (possibly detected as tiny shifts in satellite altitudes) probably simply evidenced the loss of ice.
I’ll bet 95+% of those who deride climate change and its technical evidence don’t even know how a simple airplane wing works.

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Hand me my moon boots November 3, 2014 at 8:27 pm

“The change in gravity (possibly detected as tiny shifts in satellite altitudes) probably simply evidenced the loss of ice.”

No kidding, so what’s your point? The issue isn’t even whether the climate is or is not changing, that’s a given. The questions are; what are the long term effects and what are the causes?

Even further, what are people deriding? The climate change, the results(which are still unknown long term), or the fact that governments around the world are using it as an excuse to tax the living shit out of people & companies over it?

Glad you’re so confident on the whole matter. It must be nice to take such a black and white view on a complicated matter. It’s probably reassuring.

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Soft Sigh from Hell November 4, 2014 at 7:19 pm

What a loon.

I showed no confidence in anything other than the average person having little knowledge in even basic science.

Hand me my moon boots November 3, 2014 at 10:55 am

lol…the irony of your comment IS that they were actually whining about the change in gravity due to melting ice caps…it would be comically stupid if there weren’t so serious about taxing everyone/thing over it.

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