Nikki Haley Admin: Not Pro-Gun

S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley’s law enforcement agency has been breaking state law for months by failing to renew concealed weapons permits (CWPs) for Palmetto State gun owners. Really … it’s true. And as a direct result of her administration’s negligence and incompetence, thousands of law-abiding South Carolina gun owners are…

S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley’s law enforcement agency has been breaking state law for months by failing to renew concealed weapons permits (CWPs) for Palmetto State gun owners.

Really … it’s true. And as a direct result of her administration’s negligence and incompetence, thousands of law-abiding South Carolina gun owners are seeing their Second Amendment rights denied.

Of course while Haley’s State Law Enforcement Division (SLED) can’t seem to find the time to issue CWP renewals in a timely manner, it has plenty of time (and money) to enforce a new state law aimed at restricting gun ownership.

According to The (Columbia, S.C.) State newspaper, SLED has received a $1 million grant from the U.S. Department of Justice (a.k.a. those Mexican gunrunners) aimed at “improving background checks” in the state.

“The Department of Justice has awarded the State Law Enforcement Division a grant of more than $900,000 … to improve the National Criminal Background Check System,” the paper reported.

Says a lot about this agency’s priorities doesn’t it?

There’s a perception that the Palmetto State is rabidly pro-gun, and while that may be true of its people – it is not true of state government. In fact South Carolina ranked 35th in the nation on gun freedom (No. 1 being the most free) in a recent study by the Mercatus Center – down a spot since Haley was elected.

That’s unacceptable for any governor, but it’s downright inexcusable for an ostensibly gun-loving governor like Haley.

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Peter Oute September 6, 2013 at 4:39 pm

So… trying to make sure that people declared mentally unfit to own a gun are not able to illegally buy them makes you anti-gun?
I guess I’m clearly anti-gun then. Silly me.

TontoBubbaGoldstein September 6, 2013 at 7:17 pm

TBG has heard tell of things called “computers” and “databases”. While far from an expert on what SLED has to do to renew a CWP, over 90 days sure seems like a long time.

dan September 7, 2013 at 9:44 pm

maybe some day ‘mentally unfit’ will be used on you and me…as ‘rulers ‘ change their lawful definitions……NEVER agree with authority that wants to ‘LET’ you have your rights, with their conditions…then you are only ‘their’ do as they command you…..I will never obey….Semper Fi

Lone Ranger September 6, 2013 at 4:46 pm

Robert Stewart and Mark Keel were/are anti gun for all, but Police.
Haley is a fake and a fraud, along with a liar, adulterer, narcissist, incompetent chief executive.
She needs to GO!
Vote change, then repeat change at all levels.

nitrat September 6, 2013 at 7:33 pm

From what I’ve seen over the year, pretty much the only kind of cops who oppose restrictions on guns are elected sheriffs. They have to pander to keep their jobs.

TontoBubbaGoldstein September 6, 2013 at 7:47 pm


Why do you hate democracy?

Chris September 6, 2013 at 9:38 pm

I guess you mean they must pander to the lowly constituents. What a shame that is. Governments know best, Right ?

Us lowly constituents will remind everyone who is in charge in the forthcoming elections.

Smirks September 6, 2013 at 5:36 pm

SLED doing its job doesn’t provide her a photo op opportunity like posing with a gun, so she doesn’t give a damn.

jimlewisowb September 6, 2013 at 5:38 pm

The last damn thing our Gypsy Queen Governor and elected officials want is for more South Carolina taxpayers to be packing a gun 24/7

It would not be a surprise to see the Queen in pre-election parades next summer riding in a fully enclosed bullet proof knock off of the Popemobile

“Look mommy there is the Governor, why is she in that snow globe?”

“Honey that’s the BitchBubble and our Governor loves us so much she doesn’t want to infect us”

Roll on Gypsy Queen Dooh Nibor, dammit roll on ! !

shifty henry September 6, 2013 at 7:56 pm

+8 – well done!

Anon. September 6, 2013 at 6:24 pm

It took SLED more than the 90 days to reissue my CWP. I called SLED and was told that SLED’s reading of the law (posted on their own web site) is that they have 90 BUSINESS days to reissue. I asked to speak with a supervisor and the supervisor stated the same thing.

The law states “SLED shall issue a written statement to an unqualified applicant specifying its reasons for denying the application within ninety days from the date the application was received; otherwise, SLED shall issue a concealable weapon permit.”

Who do you contact when SLED violates the law? If I get stopped for exceeding the 55 mph speed limit, can I now just tell the judge that my reading of the law is that 55 mph is an average. The officer clocked me at 110 mph, but half the time I’m traveling at 0 mph???

Just another example of lack of oversight by Gov. Nikki Haley. SLED, SCDEW, SCDSS, SCDHEC and SCDOR…What’s next???

McLovin September 7, 2013 at 12:08 pm

You guys need to stop whining. Here in Michigan I’ve been waiting since late May for my renewal. The law here says that if the state has not renewed the permit within 60 days of the application, the county clerk will extend your current permit until you get the new one. The problem is the number of people who are now getting concealed pistol permits and the background checks that must be done on every one of them before the permit can be issued. Had you kept your eyes on the news (all you read about is how many people are getting their CPLs now), you would have known about the additional time it was going to take and applied for your new permit earlier, before your existing permit expired. Don’t blame the state because they have limited resources to do bg checks, blame yourself.

Oh, and Haley rocks and is smokin’ hot.

Anon. September 7, 2013 at 7:03 pm

McLovin, if I lived in Detroit, I’d want a rocket launcher.
Haley’s only concern is Haley and you’re vision impaired!

shifty henry September 7, 2013 at 8:26 pm

Process the RENEWALS first! Then worry about the NEW applications – they can wait! DAMN! – do I have to do the thinking for those f***ng idiots at SLED?! DAMN again….

You're McStupid September 8, 2013 at 12:16 pm

The SC government doesn’t follow its own laws and its the fault of CWP holders for not anticipating they wouldn’t obey the laws SC government wrote and are responsible for?

Why don’t you keep your stupid comments confined to your own state business instead of poking your nose around here?

I think you have plenty of problems to focus on there, start with Detroit and make your way down the list. When you get Detroit solved and MI balances their budget then you can come back here and point out our faults down here without looking like a hypocrite.

Polyphemos September 6, 2013 at 6:27 pm

SLED took exactly 119 days to send my CWP. But Florida was worse – 180 days! To Florida’s credit, however, they slide the expiration date forward to compensate for their tardiness. SLED was polite but uninformative when questioned about their lateness.

TontoBubbaGoldstein September 6, 2013 at 7:18 pm

SLED was polite but uninformative when questioned about their lateness.

Heh. Imagine that!

Gregory Geddings September 7, 2013 at 10:40 am

Re: Our recent conflict on another post:

I googled Fitsnews/Episcopal Church/Polyphemos and came up with only one link which fit all three criteria:

If you read the comments you get into a “pissing contest” (your own words) with a guy named Bill. All the while you are telling the guy how smart you are.

You then go on in another post to accuse me of making these comments and proceeded to assail me based on a mistaken assumption. I told you that, at no time, have I ever, on this site or any other, made any reference whatsoever to the Episcopal Church.

To that you called me a liar.

I pointed out that you are not man enough to stand up and admit to making an error.

Polyphemos September 7, 2013 at 7:43 pm

You are such a dunce. The STORY wasn’t about the Episcopal Church. Keep backfilling.

Gregory Geddings September 8, 2013 at 7:08 am

Can you count to two? In the first link I include in my rebuttal above the title is “SC Episcopal Church Covering Up Child Abuse.” Only in your strange world would that not constitute a story about the Episcopal Church.

I would invite anyone reading this to understand that the pathetic wretch who refers to himself as Polyphemos has repeatedly demonstrated that he is delusional and severely disturbed.

In the process of eagerly informing the folks on this site about how smart he is and how no one could possibly know more on a given subject than him, he comes off as silly and needy.

It is as if he requires constant confirmation of his imaginary superiority and, if others will not provide it, he will eagerly jump in to fill the void. That is a trait associated with narcissism. Jump forward to his unremitting refusal to admit to any error and we are dipping into the slop trough of sociopathy.

I have read many of his posts. I do not deny that he is smart. That trait, however, is not the be all, end all of human existence.

Wisdom is the next step…one which he will never attain. One of the most important elements in the development of wisdom is a hearty, self-effacing sense of humor and an ability to address one’s own fallibility and faults…the ability to assume responsibility for one’s own actions. Narcissists and sociopaths are genetically incapable of this but, if smart enough, are often able to mimic elemental human emotions.

In the long run, however, Polyphemos will never be anything more than a blind man chasing butterflies.

crc September 8, 2013 at 7:26 am

A lot of CWP holders who’ve been waiting on their renewals have also
been concerned that they couldn’t legally carry until they get their
renewed permits. But lawmakers also put a proviso into the budget to
address the backlog at SLED.

That proviso says: A concealed weapons permit may not be suspended by
a state official, agent, or employee supported by state funds if the
permit holder has initiated a renewal or replacement application and the
processing and issuance of a renewal or replacement permit is delayed
for administrative reasons. A concealed weapons permit remains valid
during the pendency of the renewal or replacement process so long as the
application for replacement renewal is submitted prior to the
expiration of the permit.

Gregory Geddings September 8, 2013 at 7:32 am

Thanks for all of the info about CWPs but please note that this is not the main issue in my post. It is about a disturbed and quite delusional individual who uses this site to commit libel and slander.

Polyphemos September 8, 2013 at 5:58 pm

You are one screwed up dude.

Gregory Geddings September 8, 2013 at 6:45 pm

I sure as hell wouldn’t trade places with you. I couldn’t play the role of loud-mouthed coward with the gusto that you bring to the part.

I will let you have last tag. You just aren’t worth the effort.

nitrat September 6, 2013 at 7:28 pm

There’s a lot more use to the National Criminal Background Check System than gun background checks. It’s something that needs to be accurate and up to date for a variety reasons far more important than gun purchases.

Puhleeeese, when you say “Mercatus”, why not just say Koch?

9" September 6, 2013 at 11:34 pm

I’ve never had a gun and don’t want or need one.I have a dick,and don’t need to compensate…

Hugh September 6, 2013 at 11:48 pm

Hey nine inch, ever plunged that thing into a female politician? You figure Will Folks ever did it to Haley?

9" September 7, 2013 at 1:10 am

his was probably just a bj,but have plunged mine it into a male felt real good

marko September 7, 2013 at 10:25 pm

what male politician? glenn McConnell? he likes it up the ass

9" September 8, 2013 at 3:35 am

my god,no.he’s got ironing-board butt

Dairy Queen September 8, 2013 at 8:20 am

Andre Bauer !

9" September 9, 2013 at 6:54 pm

Uni-brow ? He’s damaged goods.’Thinks he’s Brooke Shields in ‘Pretty Baby’…

Frank Pytel September 7, 2013 at 8:41 am


SparkleCity September 6, 2013 at 11:53 pm

The day I feel the need to carry a weapon on my person on a daily basis in the United States is the day that the country has truly gone to shit, it is over and time to regress to the Dark Ages..

Frank Pytel September 7, 2013 at 8:39 am

That time has come and gone.

Scooter September 7, 2013 at 11:16 am

Right on man. I don’t need to strut around like a cowboy.

Barry Hirsh September 7, 2013 at 2:04 pm

Then, die like livestock.

Eventually, it might be YOU the criminals decide to have for dinner.

hh1034 September 7, 2013 at 11:55 am

The Dark Age has arrived. Most people are blind and can’t see it. Our country went to Hell in a handbasket years ago.

Cleveland Steamer September 7, 2013 at 12:44 am

Nothing to rile up the base like an anti gun article. A CWP don’t mean squat if a higher power wants to take you out. If you applied for one and miracle of miracles you actually do take out a bad guy (with your CWP being expired due to state incompetence), I think you’ll get the benefit of the doubt. Yo

Frank Pytel September 7, 2013 at 8:38 am

Think again

Gen September 7, 2013 at 1:07 am

She is pro-Nikki. Not pro-anything else. Once you understand that you understand it all.

Lt. Gen. "Chesty" Puller September 7, 2013 at 2:01 pm

Amen Gen!!!! Salute!
A look at the way she leans back, and holds FN SCAR proves she has NEVER used or fired one before, especially on rock and roll.
She is a fake and a fraud (as posted by others). I tend to vote for the person; but, lean Republican, voted for her once, no more!
This photo op was nothing more than a campaign ploy. The only Chief Executive worse than her is my Commander and Chief (OBama). He was elected once, a mistake! He was re-elected, huge screw up, and now the Country and our standing in the world is FUBAR’ed for decades.
Haley and Obama are one in the same, unqualified, unprepared, misdirected, and unfit for service! Change is the order of the day!
Semper Fidelis
Carry on

Gunney Hathcock September 7, 2013 at 2:30 pm

Another NO vote here Sir!

guest99 September 7, 2013 at 2:34 am

By receiving a grant from the Justice Department, ensures violation of SC gun ownership laws.

Mark J September 7, 2013 at 2:38 pm

My second amendment rights were already being violated by the state requiring me to get the permit in the first place.

Geoff September 7, 2013 at 5:43 pm

Y’all are blowing this out of proportion. It took 86 (calendar) days to get my CWP a year and a half ago. At that time SLED had exactly TWO officers to process applications. Gov. Haley herself has a CWP.. Any delays now are due to over 64,000 applications in the first 6 months of this year, more than all of 2012. The $900K money is to set up a system to report those determined to be mentally ill by a court to NICS, which previously did not exist.

? September 8, 2013 at 12:24 pm

“Any delays now are due to over 64,000 applications in the first 6 months of this year, more than all of 2012.”

Sounds like a good reason to allow the 2nd amendment to be legal here to me.

The problem could go away tomorrow if they made CCW legal. Then they could add the two paper pushers to the staff of something more needed, like theft investigation.

Dan September 7, 2013 at 8:43 pm

The cheif of SLED is appointed by the Governor and confirmed by the senate.. Yes the chief has a lot of ass kissing and when they don’t they end up like Regie Lloyed who should have never been appointed cheif.. SLED has out live it usefulness time to reorganize or disband them.

dan September 7, 2013 at 9:37 pm

when you play by ‘their’ rules …you will lose…Vermont should be the standard for gun permits…NONE required……imho

ralph September 8, 2013 at 12:36 am

her left hand squeezing that thing like a pecker — she’s had plenty of those in her life

Boz Martin September 8, 2013 at 12:52 am

That’s still one hot pic of the Nikki right there.

konji September 11, 2013 at 5:18 am

why wyoming, as well as the other 4 constitutional carry states, is a prime example of what a state should look like as far as gun laws go.


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