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SC Social Conservatives To Oppose “Skype” Abortions

2016 “LITMUS TEST” LOOMING FOR “FIRST IN THE SOUTH” PRIMARY By FITSNEWS || Just in time for the 2016 “Republican” presidential primary, along comes a rallying issue for social conservatives in early-voting states like Iowa and South Carolina. We’re referring to so-called “Skype” abortions – in which abortion-inducing drugs are administered…

2016 “LITMUS TEST” LOOMING FOR “FIRST IN THE SOUTH” PRIMARY

By FITSNEWS || Just in time for the 2016 “Republican” presidential primary, along comes a rallying issue for social conservatives in early-voting states like Iowa and South Carolina.

We’re referring to so-called “Skype” abortions – in which abortion-inducing drugs are administered to women following “virtual” examinations conducted by physicians using online videoconferencing technology.  Championed by pro-abortion groups like Planned Parenthood, “Skype” abortions are meant to compensate for a nationwide shortage of abortionists.

In Iowa, the state Supreme Court upheld these “webcam abortions” on a temporary basis.  That decision came months after Iowa’s board of medicine outlawed the practice on the grounds it was unsafe.

An estimated 6,400 abortions have been performed in Iowa using “telemed” prescriptions since 2008.

In South Carolina – another early-voting state – social conservatives are gearing up for a fight on the issue.

“Have you heard of the nasty little trick the abortion industry is playing in some parts of the country?” Oran Smith of the Palmetto Family Council asked his supporters in a recent email. “Known as ‘telemed’ or ‘Skype’ abortion, it is an abortion where no doctor is actually present.”

According to Smith, “telemed” abortions offer “low overhead for the abortion industry” but provide a “very low standard of care for the patient.”

That’s why Palmetto Family Council says it will be working to ban the practice within South Carolina’s borders during the upcoming legislative session.  In fact the group is already endorsing legislation sponsored by S.C. Sen. Kevin Bryant of Anderson to do just that.

But that’s not what this issue is really about …

It’s about creating a social conservative litmus test for the 2016 “Republican” presidential primary – an election in which South Carolina will once again play a starring role.

Oh, and raising money for Smith’s organization.

Don’t get us wrong: This website opposes abortion – and always will.  In our opinion, you can’t have individual liberty without first having life.  But this effort strikes us as more political than policy-oriented, even if we do support its objective.

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147 comments

Centrist View December 29, 2014 at 1:50 pm

There are three distinct milestones in human life.

1. Conception
2. Birth
3. Death

Everything else in between is a phase of human development. Gestation, the time in Mom’s belly, is a 9 month phase of human development.

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Really? December 29, 2014 at 1:52 pm

Or you just go from step 1 straight to step 2. Way to over simply things.

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Really? December 29, 2014 at 1:53 pm

*step 3

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Smirks December 29, 2014 at 2:01 pm

Births and deaths are celebrated/remembered. Nobody gives a shit about the day they were conceived.

Your turn.

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Swallow December 29, 2014 at 2:08 pm

Must of had those types of parents who like to go on and on about how special the time Dad got drunk and could pull out fast enough was.

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Squishy123 December 29, 2014 at 3:29 pm

After the third pump?

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Fecal Matters December 29, 2014 at 3:51 pm

So did he pull out or didn’t he?

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Too funny December 29, 2014 at 1:51 pm

This is one of the stupider things social conservatives have thrown out there lately to scare up the rubes. Really scrapping the bottom of the barrel with this one.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 1:54 pm

Yeah: Wish I was as smart and enlightened and love to kill babies like you, Obama, Dr. Gosnel and Caligula. (NOT!!!)…..

You’re SO sophisticated and the best and the brightest, they tell us…too…Oh to be you….Babies are trash to you…you’re so advanced…Congrats…

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grandtangosuglydog December 29, 2014 at 1:55 pm

who exactly tells you this? Come on be honest..its those voices in your head huh? the squeaky little sound of mice roaming about..all with cute names like Flip, sandi, the long gone Pogo..the voices..they scream..they scream…

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Smirks December 29, 2014 at 1:57 pm

If only a psychiatrist could help assess and administer GrandTango’s meds over Skype.

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Dr. Deaf December 29, 2014 at 2:03 pm

Or an super, extra late term Skpye abortion. Or maybe exposure to direct sunlight might work too?

GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 2:14 pm

Psychiatrist and Meds charges. How do you do it?….You are so creative. On a level w/ FITS. You are so so deep and insightful. Where do you come up w/ such genius. You liberals are such GREAT thinkers. How do you do it?

Smirks December 29, 2014 at 2:23 pm

Ancient Chinese secret.

Dr. Deaf December 29, 2014 at 2:24 pm

It pretty easy actually. Unfortunately you lack the cognitive ability to ever gain any level of insight, so I can’t help you. Sorry, little fella.

Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 9:07 pm

Psychiatrist? Will calls you a socialist. You threaten to leave Fits and take other bloggers with you. Child.

Psycho…calling Nurse Ratched!!! :-)

can't keep track December 29, 2014 at 2:01 pm

Don’t forget Emily Peterkin (his drag persona) and BigT (his cruising handle)

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Too funny December 29, 2014 at 1:59 pm

I see it’s working. You’re like a fly to shit when comes to these things. Like a good puppet.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 2:03 pm

But you are so smart you ignored it, right. LMAO…

You liberals may be the most IGNORANT pieces of $#!* to NOT get aborted, EVER….

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Too funny December 29, 2014 at 2:05 pm

Is your brain having a “thought abortion”? I imagine you aborted logic decades ago.

Rocky December 29, 2014 at 2:41 pm

Don’t feel left out. I’m sure your support for the GOP has resulted in millions of dead babies in Iraq. Way to go Tango.

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mamatiger92 December 29, 2014 at 2:53 pm

Life is only precious when you are a fetus.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 1:51 pm

Yeah: If it were not for those DISGUSTING social conservatives, you’d be able to just abort at will…all the time and every time. A virtual paradise for abortionists…

And it’s SO TOUCCHING that the loving and compassionate FITS is trying to figure out how he can play the politics of hate and manipulation w/ the lives of these babies and snuffing them by Skype…If you can get Liberals in office using dead babies…FITS w/ P!$$ his pants to do that…Getting apolitical advantage is ALL that matters to these filthy secular B@$*@*ds….

REAL Classy people…You epitomize of the value of freedom…NOT!!!!

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You're welcome December 29, 2014 at 1:56 pm

You are never going to impregnate anything, so let the people this will actually effect talk. Although, you do need more taxpayers to fund the gov’t checks you keep cashing, so I see were YOU are coming from.

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Smirks December 29, 2014 at 1:59 pm Reply
So sad :( December 29, 2014 at 2:05 pm

I know why you are so against abortion.

If I had been born with an unwound coat hanger sticking out of my skull, only to be saved by having the birth doctor pull it out ex-womb, subsequently leaking some of my brain onto the floor I too would be pissed.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 2:10 pm

Abortion has been promoted by the left for about 50 years. Are you liberals SO F*#king Ignorant, you can come up w/ nothing more creative than repeating how the people you HATE should be victims of the scalpel that kills babies….

Speaking brutally about squishing the brains of babies does not make you sound smart or sophisticated. It just makes you look like the common, Dumb@$$ you are…typically following in lockstep with what the media tells its idiots to say and do…

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So sad :( December 29, 2014 at 2:13 pm

Actually, I wasn’t commiserating with you on baby brain squishing, it was leakage.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 2:16 pm

Best and Brightest for sure…

So sad :( December 29, 2014 at 2:16 pm

Well, we have to adjust our standards for your ailment.

Smirks December 29, 2014 at 2:16 pm

Abortion has been promoted by the left for about 50 years.

The right, too. Remember Nixon?

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Buz Martin December 29, 2014 at 6:03 pm

Let’s not forget Ayn Rand.

Smirks December 29, 2014 at 1:55 pm

Social conservatives stumble over themselves to effectively outlaw abortions, get outraged that people find a way around their fuckery.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 2:06 pm

The liberal hero and Baby Killer Dr. Vermin Gosnel,…is now offering his Der Fuehrer salute to FITS, and all his hateful Baby Killers orgasmic over new Skype Baby Killings…

But Vermin Gosnel is still P!$$#d Obama has not pardoned him yet….

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Call 911 December 29, 2014 at 2:09 pm

I don’t think I’ve ever witnessed anyone having an active stroke while typing on a computer before. Freaky.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 2:12 pm

Yall S#!* all over yourselves when I reference your Hero Vermin Gosnel.

You P!$$#D he’s still in jail for killing babies, even after he did exactly what Obama, you and Hillary told him he should do???….

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So sad :( December 29, 2014 at 2:15 pm

My new pet name for you is “strokie”.

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Buz Martin December 29, 2014 at 6:02 pm

Who sees Gosnel as a hero? Nobody I’ve ever read or heard about.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 6:06 pm

Hmm: Obama says kill a baby 3rd Trimester, and you Suck him off as your lord-god…but Gosnell gets busted, and you Cower like the spineless piece of $#!t you are…typical….

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Buz Martin December 29, 2014 at 6:15 pm

You’re a very nasty man.

Here’s where you go off the rails, where I’m concerned. I have been speaking out against Obama and his policies since 2009. I never voted for him, once. Yet you keep suggesting I’m a big fan. You are deeply, deeply in error on that.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 6:25 pm

What I have ALWAYS maintained…idiots like you and FITS, by pulling votes from Conservatives ARE a BIG part of the problem….

FITS likely does it because he wants Democrats elected. He said he’d just as soon work for Jim Hodges as he would the Liberal-Tarian Republican who pulled his fake @$$ into the power circle…

You just envy power…and you attack any Republican. And the left is the only ones who need Dumb@$$#$ like you to help forge a coalition……You’re just as F*#king dangerous, and Stupid, as FITS….because you result in Democrats being elected if there are enough of you….

And there is NO success with Democrats in power. When Conservatives get this country, if we ever do, it will be fixed and be fit for freedom…until then, we have to get fools and lairs, like you, and FITS out of the way….

Now you may be offended by that characterization, but it is SPOT ON…You are either right, or against it…You are not for it….

Buz Martin December 29, 2014 at 6:18 pm

Just for future reference, what kind of a perverted notion of religion do you have, where people suck off their god?

Dear Lord, you creep me out!

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 6:27 pm

Ever hear of Hedonism…Go educate yourself….You’ll see you are the POSTER BOY for it.,…

Buz Martin December 29, 2014 at 6:32 pm

Isn’t that a resort in Jamaica? There may be two of them.

No, seriously, I know the concept. Never was a full adept, myself. Too much of a conscience, or something like that.

You seem oddly fixated on dick-sucking, anal rape, etc.

You seeing a professional to work through all that? If so, I pity them. You’d make even the best shrink want to shit-can their shingle.

GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 7:55 pm

Do any of you EVER get tired of responding w/ idle and trite prattle…after I @$$ rape you w/ the reality of who, and what you are… (:

You’re simply no match….

Just Say No To Ass Rape December 29, 2014 at 8:29 pm

You and “Flip” seem a little bit hell bent on getting bent…

grandtangosuglydog December 30, 2014 at 10:20 am

Ass rape..uhh grand asshat always has one thing on his mind folks..its either Obama or ass sex..stay true to who you are asshat/sandi/pogo/flip..its all about the ass rape huh?

grandtangosuglydog December 30, 2014 at 10:19 am

the grand asshat..he doesn’t deny it..just tries to justify it..says it all really.

grandtangosuglydog December 30, 2014 at 10:18 am

ladies and gentlemen..the holy duo..Obama and Anal sex rear its ugly head again..cheers to you little troll..you never, ever disappoint in your obsession with your God Obama and sucking something off or having it anally inserted..You are the troll gift that keeps on giving..i think you and your alter ego flip should do some more “research” you know sit around and look at gay porn..all in the name of “research” You guys must be practically PHDs by now..

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Zaman Dogar December 29, 2014 at 2:10 pm

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xy January 4, 2015 at 5:48 pm

Yeah. I would guess most of us readers stay current on this and other sensational news stories like that. What about a pregnancy that endangers the mother’s life? I could digress. But abortion is a gray area – not black and white.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 2:27 pm

What I have to LMAO about: RonPaul, a god to FITS, ran some of the MOST Anti Abortion radio commercials I have EVER heard in SC …but these same Triangulating liars – while campaigning elsewhere – will tell you a woman has the right to take the life of a baby, if she wants, because of “liberty.”

Liars think no one sees what they are doing…It’s why you tell er’body you’re on the Appalachian Trail, and think you’ll get away with it…or why you tell the fools they can keep their insurance and it will cost less…or why you can say you want abortion to be rare…like Hillary told them…

This country is falling apart because of these liars…We cannot afford any more.

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mamatiger92 December 29, 2014 at 2:49 pm

You should head back over to the Panthers’ story and continue to explore your homosexual feelings for Tim Tebow. No need to be ashamed. 2015 could be a year of great personal growth for you, GT.

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grandtangosuglydog December 29, 2014 at 3:40 pm

anyone can dream..cant they?

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Buz Martin December 29, 2014 at 6:01 pm

Point me to the Ron Paul pro-abortion rhetoric, please. Or is that just another hallucination from one of the snakes in your head?

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mamatiger92 December 29, 2014 at 2:30 pm

**grabbing popcorn**
nothing like an abortion piece to bring out the crazies.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 3:01 pm

Yeah you’d have to be insane to want a baby to live…What was I thinking…

You are so neat…

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No kidding December 29, 2014 at 3:34 pm

You’re only happy once they’re born. Then it’s fuck those welfare babies, look at that future thug, there goes a future felon…and that’s just the white trash from SC.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 5:16 pm

Ignorant F*#king Liberal Cliche Much?

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No kidding December 29, 2014 at 5:27 pm

The white trash welfare whore is a cliche for a reason. They are commonly encountered in the real world. Unlike you, the “angry old white man who rages on the Internet against everything he actually is” cliche. Which is commonly encountered here on FitNews’ website.

GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 5:32 pm

I’m not old…Just not an easily-led Dumb@$$, who marches in lockstep, like pop culture idiots, like you….

And for the sake of FACT: There are not enough babies to be adopted NOW…you IGNORANT F*#k…and Cliche….

60 Is The New 30 December 29, 2014 at 5:47 pm

That’s right, Bigums!

No kidding December 29, 2014 at 5:58 pm

Yes there certainly are. Hypocrites like you won’t adopt a child of another race or older children. Once a fetus leaves the womb, you pieces of shit could fucking care less what happens to them. Fuck you!

GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 6:12 pm

Hahahahaha….What are you talking about Race…you ignorant little F*#k??….LMAO….

You must be a regular watcher of The View…you sound like one of those empty headed imbeciles….LMAO….

You people are so eaten up in your tiny world of pop culture…Go down to the coffee klatch and push your delusional, imaginary Bull-S#!t for idiots….It’s Dumb@$$#$ like you who prove everything I say about liberals, and the mind-numb clichés you are….LMAO….

Everybody December 29, 2014 at 6:38 pm

Whatever GT, you could walk the walk and adopt a orphaned child. Oh wait, you’re practically a ward of the state yourself. Well played, fat boy.

What's In A Name? December 29, 2014 at 6:44 pm

Funny, you never see Tango or Flip on a big troll flurry on the same page, but maybe a comment here and there…?

Come on big guy, let the other personality have a go.

Bring her back December 29, 2014 at 7:11 pm

I miss Emily Peterkin. Why did you drop that one, GT?

Buz Martin December 30, 2014 at 2:52 am

Maybe he was afraid the real Emily Peterkin was gonna sue his fool ass.

Buz Martin December 30, 2014 at 3:03 am

Actually GT and Flip are two different guys, with very similar ruined minds.

Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 8:51 pm

Busy day GT. Thank you my friend for your comments on protecting ‘life’.

Mother Teresa once said, “If a mother can kill her own child, what could be next”? ….

Answer? Infanticide (partial-birth abortion), euthenasia (Obamacare ‘death panels’) and souless POS like those posting on this thread today that have infected our state controlled schools and communities via their children, with the same hate and perversion that seeks to eliminate the most vulnerable in our society (the unborn,handicapped, elderly) and yet glorify cock sucking pedophiles while allowing the perverts to legally marry.

You ain’t gonna win this this debate on Fits. A perfect audience.

GrandTango December 30, 2014 at 6:58 am

Appreciate the support, FC. And I’m not trying to win. I just want these cretins to see themselves for who, and what, they are.

Most of them are coffee shop philosophers who speak into an echo chamber of ignorance, and have their cliches, and mindless theories, validated by pop media.

None of them have seen some poor liberal woman pulling her hair out after constant nightmares about the faces of the babies she’s been talked into aborting. They don’t come from families with men in them, who will kick the baby dead if the mother refuses to “take care of the problem” so she can be his rag-doll seamen dispensary again…

These are shallow, ignorant and dull people…who are told they are brilliant as long as they march in lockstep with FITS-like masters…Then they are used as the vacant soulless animals they are….

Flip Coscoe December 30, 2014 at 7:37 am

No problem.Keep up the good work. Been attending the Beach Ball Classic in MB and watching Duke recruit Luke Kennard light it up with 52 and 39 in consecutive games.

Boz said the mayor gave him free tickets but I haven’t seen him. My guess is the mayor didn’t throw in a bus ticket and a comp into the hospitality area. Damn I got some stories to tell ya. :-)

GrandTango December 30, 2014 at 8:26 am

I’ve been to the Beach Ball Classic before. It was one of the first of those type tournaments in SC. LOTS of talent usually….

And yeah: Boz does impress me as a freebie-seeker, trying to look down on other people, based on his own arrogance and self-value. He will hate a politician, until he is patted on the back…then he’s like a panting puppy, in service. That’s why FITS feeds him.

Would LOVE to hear the stories. As you can tell NOTHING intrigues me more than REAL people, and how they act. Actual EXPERIENCE is how I draw my understanding about politics and everything else. Boz is a GREAT case study, because he has NO idea of who he really is, and how he projects what he is…

grandtangosuglydog December 30, 2014 at 10:14 am

“Semen dispensary”….lol there it is again.. the littlest trolls dreams and fantasies are showing their ugly head..

grandtangosuglydog December 30, 2014 at 10:13 am

if anyone..and i mean anyone knows about hate and perversion..its you and your other personas..grand asshat.,.pogo asandi etc..you guys are practically Rhodes scholars on the subject..but please stupid little troll..continue stewing in your hate

Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 9:01 pm

Dumbass. If Planned Parenthood doesn’t kill the children we raise em, pay for em from ‘womb to tomb’ and most of em become Democrat voters. Why do you want to kil the babies?

mamatiger92 December 30, 2014 at 9:45 am

“There are not enough babies to be adopted NOW”
Are you serious? Maybe not enough healthy WHITE babies.

Buz Martin December 29, 2014 at 6:34 pm

Kinda like when ya catch a small fish, and throw it back so it can grow big and fat, and you can catch it later. Lots of profit in those prisons, and executions excite the masses, to bring in massive votes.

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Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 8:53 pm

What a dumbass comment, by a serial loser ,that lives with his mother, so he doesn’t have to live at Street Reach.

Buz Martin December 30, 2014 at 3:01 am

This subject makes you so crazy, you forgot that you were supposed to have an actual sense of humor in this new persona, pogo/Sandi.

btww: If I didn’t live here, where (as you know) I am my mother’s only care-giver, I’d move back to Myrtle Beach and live in an apartment.

Duality of Phoetus December 30, 2014 at 9:18 am

That’s what’s weird. It’s the perfect Democrat demographic. You’d think they’d be against abortion on the basis of power retention.

Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 8:57 pm

’92’ comments ain’t nothin,’ mammabitch’.
Fits posts about queers,fags and perverted marriage and he gets 200 + comments from the anal explorers of men and animals.
Throw in legalizing drugs and even the homeless in Colorado comment on here.

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mamatiger92 December 30, 2014 at 8:14 am

right on cue

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grandtangosuglydog December 30, 2014 at 10:30 am

you comment on here..says it all huh little troll

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Rocky December 29, 2014 at 2:40 pm

You get abortions via Skype? Gosh technology is awesome.

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aikencounty December 29, 2014 at 5:15 pm

Does this mean I can “have” Dana Delaney AND Blythe Danner at the same time?
SIGN ME UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 9:27 pm

That is how how Obama got his ‘long’ birth certificate from Al Queda??? So they say???

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grandtangosuglydog December 30, 2014 at 10:10 am

Lets see if you are man enough to answer..who is “they” ???? grand asshat, sandi, pogo or whomever screams loudest in your tiny little troll mind??..so answer the question..who is “they” (let me guess..its the voices huh…screaming…always screaming..”)

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 3:00 pm

Ain’t nothing gets the Democrats Hard-oning like killing babies…except maybe protecting homosexual pedophiles or assassinating cops…

What the left GETS OFF on….Nice people you are… (:

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Just Wondering December 29, 2014 at 3:00 pm

13% of the population makes up 40% of yearly abortions, do black lives really matter?

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 3:01 pm

Why do you think they are trying to import beggar-voters from South America????…Aborting does not lend itself to growth among mothers so selfish, they’d rather kill their own, than take care of them…

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jimlewisowb December 29, 2014 at 3:02 pm

Skype abortions don’t cause me to lose any sleep

However, Skype pregnancies have really got me concerned

I am at the point that I now cover my laptop screen with a zip lock bag just for protection

The last thing I need is for some comely lass to file a paternity suit naming me as the daddy

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 3:05 pm

Veg out and turn off…unless it tickles one of your pleasure buttons, for fat. warted rednecks…

Sit up at some bar w/ a blue bib on getting spoon fed oat-meal, like they would any brainless, don’t care @$$hole. Wonder why your parents did not do the same…or maybe they did…and that explains you….

Killing babies should not matter to the people too stupid to even take care of themselves….Shoe fit?

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grandtangosuglydog December 29, 2014 at 3:39 pm

“one of your pleasure buttons, for fat. warted rednecks….” Ladies and gentlemen we are reaching new depths here..

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Buz Martin December 29, 2014 at 5:53 pm

Where’s the bar where they spoon-feed us oatmeal? Coz I’m all in!

Jello body shots for desert? I’m DOUBLE-D all in!

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Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 9:26 pm

Shit Boz…you would just walk out on your ‘tab’ anyway-what was it???. ..it was raining and your ride was leaving…and you don’t have a DL or vehicle?

LMAO!!!!

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Buz Martin December 30, 2014 at 2:54 am

How cute. pogo got a logo and a new screen name. What have you done with Sandi?

Buz Martin December 29, 2014 at 5:51 pm

That would be a job for the Virtual Maurey app!

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Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 9:10 pm

Aren’t you from Chapin? Didn’t you losers hire a football coach that hung Tampons in high school football players lockers at a previous ‘stop’…??? :-)

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Slartibartfast December 30, 2014 at 10:44 pm

I understand. But, how do the sea men get through the vapor to the lady’s lady bits? Or is this only for an exeunt, rather than an entrance? Or is this article the same explanation my grandmother gave me? Boy, was I surprised when my wife didn’t give birth to a head of cabbage! Can I get an AMEN???!!??

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jimlewisowb December 31, 2014 at 9:31 am

amen

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Squishy123 December 29, 2014 at 3:14 pm

So some think it’s okay to have an invasive medical procedure done without a qualified medical doctor present? What next “Skype” deliveries?

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Rocky December 29, 2014 at 3:25 pm

Can you get the clap from Skype too?

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Crooner December 29, 2014 at 4:18 pm

Why don’t you right-to-lifers spend your time and money developing a minimally invasive procedure that will pluck the zygote from the recalcitrant mom-to-be, place it in some sort of primordial ooze while it develops, and then take it home, treat it as your own, home-school it and send it to college? You know, because you love them so much and all.
There always have been, and always will be abortions. The only question is whether they will be safe for the unwanted fetus carrier.

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truthmonger December 29, 2014 at 5:16 pm

So…. How is it that harming a pregnant woman and causing the death of the fetus can result in a murder charge, yet aborting a fetus is permissible? I’m confused…. is it bad when you WANT the unborn child, but good when you don’t? And please, what are your opinions on post-partum abortion?

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Crooner December 29, 2014 at 5:37 pm

Because the right-to-lifers realized that was a way to recast the abortion issue. Remember then AG Charlie Condon prosecuting drug addicts on child abuse/endangerment charges for using while pregnant? And apparently, that only applied to crack addicts.
Post-partum means done left, in language suitable for this board. So that would be murder.
Why is it that sooo many right-to-lifers support the death penalty?

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Smirks December 29, 2014 at 6:06 pm

How is it that harming a pregnant woman and causing the death of the
fetus can result in a murder charge, yet aborting a fetus is
permissible?

How is it that someone beating your car with a baseball bat can result in a vandalism charge, yet beating your own car with a baseball bat is permissible?

How is it that someone killing your dog can result in an animal cruelty charge, but having your own dog put to sleep is permissible?

How is it that some things are different shades of gray, and that absolutes are often retarded?

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tomstickler December 29, 2014 at 5:10 pm

Sorry to bring a few facts to this unenlightened forum, but “Skype abortions” are not what some appear to think they are.

What Bright’s bill targets are the unnecessary medical consultation, then 24 to 48 hour waiting period “to think it over” before actually getting the procedure. Legislators like Bright have worked for more than 40 years placing “”obstacles in the path of easy abortion”.

Bright wants to make women take 2 days off work and make two (possibly long) trips. The Skype consultation is an attempt to meet that stupid extra consultation and wait.

BTW: Do those who consider abortion to be murder consider abstinence to be genocide?

Just askin’.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 5:27 pm

You’re a F*#ked up backward piece of S#!* to promote any kind of baby kill, you spineless and IGNORANT lemming…

Tell the truth…You’re a Coward little B@$t@*d who wants so much to be liked by pop culture, you’re stupid and misguided, you’d kill your won son, if Barack would dangle his little inch-worm, in your PERVERTED mouth….

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grandtangosuglydog December 30, 2014 at 10:07 am

Bingo..there it is again…Obama and homosexual sex..ladies and gentlemen..i give you our own little troll, the guy obsessed with all things anal and Obama..ms. grand asshat/sandi/pogo/flip.

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Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 9:14 pm

There we go. The infamous “tomstickler” of TSN and biker rally fame…run out of town cause he and his friends were dope smoking drunks and lawless creatures of hopelessness , commenting on issues of “life”!!! LMAO!!!!!

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Buz Martin December 30, 2014 at 2:57 am

Still stuck in 2009, are ya, pogo?

I’ve seen enough of Tom Stickler to know that he hasn’t been run out of anywhere. He’s still in the area because it’s his home. He we wears a helmet. Rides a bike, but then so do a great many cops.

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9" December 30, 2014 at 11:50 pm

Not sure but,sperm banks are…My BF always says,after he flushes-I just killed all your babies,and then, I scream,MURDERER !!!

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 5:24 pm

Please Tell me Mr. lord-god FITS: How can I avoid being seen as a gross and ugly SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE?…How many babies do I need to kill to be like you and Barack…???

I’m so ashamed of being a Southerner, and not liberal. How can I be sophisticated and smart….like you….????…

Can I send a check to Planned Parenthood, or maybe talk a young mother into ripping out that selfish, woman-hating seed of life she’s burdened with…. Anything, I’ll do it, if I can be hip and modern, like you…

I want Katie, Wolf, Anderson, Bob, George, Chris Wallace and Rachel to see me as educated and elite, like you. The planet already has too many polluting humans in it now. Life is EVIL, Barack said so……I don’t want to be a backward, child-loving neanderthal like these stupid hicks in South Carolina…I want to be a Democrat and kill babies….

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Call 911 December 29, 2014 at 5:29 pm

Another stroke?

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 5:30 pm

Too stupid to think much?

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Dr. Laura December 29, 2014 at 6:47 pm

You should have went with “stroke”.

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E Norma Scok December 29, 2014 at 6:34 pm

You should kill yourself.

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Buz Martin December 29, 2014 at 6:05 pm

Will, Ayn Rand is in Hell now, going TSK TSK TSK at this post. She thought Skype abortions were the cat’s pajamas.

She’s a little behind in her slang, you know.

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Buz Martin December 29, 2014 at 6:22 pm

At the risk of being accused of over-commenting, or whatever …

This is an example of what Will does when he is truly enjoying an extended holiday and not do many new posts — but still wants to generate lots of hits and a comment thread 100 yards long.

Well played, sir. Well played indeed.

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GrandTango December 29, 2014 at 7:14 pm

Not sure why: most of you mind-zapped, zoned-out no-account dopers are full-fledged 100% in favor of snuffing out the life of a baby, in the most convenient process possible…

Not too many of the dread “social conservatives” FITS so hates on here…debating you…

Unless you’re saying that you F*#ks are so ignorant you argue w/ people in lemming lock-step with you…. I don’t really think your point is supported…

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Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 9:18 pm

If that is the case why didn’t he post something about homosexuality, gay marriage or legalizing drugs? That light Fits up with the perverts and criminals.

Not many comments here. Maybe Will is pro-life and this bothered him?

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9" December 29, 2014 at 8:47 pm

There’s no easy answer when it comes to abortion;a lose/lose situation,but it questions ‘liberty’ ,more than any other issue,or does ‘liberty’ apply only to men? You can’t claim to be a ‘libertarian’ and oppose abortion.Admit you’re a right-wing extremist republican who thinks a woman’s body is part of your ridiculous ‘politics’,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV

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Bible Thumper December 29, 2014 at 9:29 pm

Every woman began as a fetus.

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Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 9:40 pm

‘liberty’ you fucking queer, reprobate? Domestic abuse against women is indeed sic, wrong, a sin and should be punished. Men apparently use this kind of abuse to ‘control’ women???

Women use killing their unborn child in the name of ‘control’ over their body.

Both are wrong.

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Bible Thumper December 29, 2014 at 9:43 pm

Abortion is in the interest of selfish men who want to control women’s bodies for their own pleasure without the responsibilities of marriage or fatherhood.

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Bible Thumper December 29, 2014 at 10:00 pm

“There’s no easy answer when it comes to abortion…”
Unfortunately, people like Flip Coscoe and Tango make it easier for many to choose “pro-choice”.

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Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 10:02 pm

Fuck you.

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Bible Thumper December 29, 2014 at 9:25 pm

Never thought I would say that Buz and Tango are both right about Ayn Rand and Will being embarassed to be pro-life.

Ayn Rand describes her philosophy as “‘Objectivism’, its essence as “the concept of man as a heroic being, with his own happiness as the moral purpose of his life, with productive achievement as his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute.”

This is pure selfishness. –“His own happiness”, no concern for anyone else.– In see a lot of the same ideology in Will and “Ayn” Rand Paul.

Will can be passionate about the 17 trillion dollar deficit, which effects his own pocket and perhaps his own family, but has to practically apologize for being pro-life. To Will, Hitler would have been great if it weren’t for the 11 million executions and the war and all that. That is Will’s support for life. Glib!

Even when he rails against the US “war machine”, he is more concerned about the wasted money and crony profits than the suffering and lose of life. Instead of concern for our soldiers, he condemns and insults them.

Will, Pro-life is just a philosophical construct to you. Am I wrong or is it possible for you to make a passionate defense for life?

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euwe max December 29, 2014 at 10:05 pm

Hypocrite – government invades not only your property, but your own skin.

Step over the starving as they die, without government intervention, but save the “baby” to suffer in your libertarian hell.

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Bible Thumper December 29, 2014 at 10:07 pm

Hypocrite – government protects life, except if your preborn.

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Flip Coscoe December 29, 2014 at 10:22 pm

euwe max is right…you are indeed a hypocrite…attacking ‘believers’ that get into the gutter to fight for the ‘truth’….

Check out Franklin Graham’s comments on such issue.

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Bible Thumper December 29, 2014 at 10:39 pm

If you’re going to get in the gutter, clean it out instead of making it dirtier.

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lulz December 29, 2014 at 11:45 pm

“government protects life”

lulz….gov’t is reponsible for killing more people globally in all of time that any other single organization.

Democide FTW!

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Bible Thumper December 29, 2014 at 11:54 pm

Usually people prefer government to anarchy. There are bad governments, but the general situation would be deadlier if they were all replaced with anarchy. If that is true, then the net result of government is lives saved. I suggest we try to improve government.

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lulz December 30, 2014 at 9:25 am

“but the general situation would be deadlier if they were all replaced with anarchy”

…and your proof of this?

Zero, nada, nothing.

On the other hand, there is no question that governments are responsible for a mountain of skulls that can’t be approached by any other organization, including religion.

It’s not even a controversial fact.

What “people prefer” isn’t germane to the question/issue of gov’t being the most efficient & effective killer of man ever.

Bible Thumper December 30, 2014 at 9:48 am

There are very few places in the world where more death is caused by government violence than by crime that governments usually try to prevent. In 2013 the FBI reports that there were 14,196 murders in the USA.

lulz December 30, 2014 at 10:57 am

lol, 14K?

Dude, the US in Iraq is responsible conservatively for well over 100K in civilians deaths alone(with some estimates much higher), and conservatively 500K when the picture is muddier(combatants & civilians) and you want to bitch and moan about 14k in a year?

Seriously, do you want to start piling up the bodycount over the last 50 years of gov’t caused fatality vs. crime?

It wouldn’t even be close.

Bible Thumper December 29, 2014 at 10:36 pm

I help the starving. The ones who get the government help, too often, have Smart phones, cable TV, internet and are fat.

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euwe max December 29, 2014 at 10:40 pm

You’d rather they live on dirt floors eating dog food with bones showing through translucent skin, in concentration work camps, than provided necessities by the government?

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Bible Thumper December 29, 2014 at 11:26 pm

I favored Clinton/Gingrich welfare reform, which has been abandoned by Obama.
The current system, puts food in the belly, but destroys self worth.
Matthew 4:4 Jesus says “It is written. Man shall not live by bread alone.
The rioters of Ferguson are not suffering from hunger. They stole liquor, tobacco and electronics. They are suffering from neglect. We are neglecting their behavior. That is just as hateful as if we didn’t feed them when they are starving. The same is true of the homeless. The least of their problems are hunger. Addiction and mental illness is their main problem.
Luke 10:33 But a Samaritan, who was on a journey, came upon him; and when he saw him, he felt compassion,
The feeling of compassion is more important to the victim than the needs provided. They have even proven this with monkeys.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Harlow
“Overwhelmingly, the infant macaques preferred spending their time clinging to the cloth mother.[9] Even when only the wire mother could provide nourishment, the monkeys visited her only to feed.”

Providing someone with food, clothing and shelter is a social action as much as a physiological. If you solve the physiological problem without dealing with the sociological issues, you can cause more harm than good.

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nitrat December 30, 2014 at 9:06 am

Is your high horse as pompously sanctimonious as you?

Bible Thumper December 30, 2014 at 9:38 am

“high horse as pompously sanctimonious”
Add condescending, dismissive and belittlement.
Fact remains, the war on poverty has left a lot of collateral damage including concentrated high crime areas, family breakdown and teen pregnancy.

Rocky December 30, 2014 at 7:08 am

Amazingly, the very “Party” that is all about unregulated Internet, freedom of speech and access and unfettered free enterprise, wants to regulate the ability of doctors to provide information via the Internet. So as usual, they’re only commitmented to individual rights, when the individual does only what they say is right? The Moral Right, always wrong, never right.

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nitrat December 30, 2014 at 9:11 am

http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/12/22/us-usa-north-carolina-abortion-idINKBN0K01M920141222

NC ultrasound abortion law struck down.
Is SC’s far behind?
More SCGOP AG political gesture lawsuits at taxpayer expense to come?

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Slartibartfast December 30, 2014 at 10:34 pm

Ah, Malthusian drills.. 1, 2, 3, 4 ! Ford, Almighty!

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xx January 4, 2015 at 5:35 pm

“TeleMed” is now a part of many types of medicine. For example, small town Emergency Rooms employee Tele-Psychiatrists. Obviously many small hospitals do not have a Psychiatrist on hand and there is often a need to assess a patient on the spot. I would assume the same hospitals do not have an Ob-Gyn on hand for a women seeking the abortion pill. Whether it be for mere convenience, rape, incest or a pregnant woman involved in a tragic accident or a tubal pregnancy.

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