By FITSNEWS || From the “you didn’t build that” file of colossally dumb political utterances, the usually polished Hillary Clinton committed a major unforced error while campaigning in Boston, Massachusetts on behalf of Democratic gubernatorial candidate Martha Coakley.
Perhaps you’ve heard the quote already?
“Don’t let anybody tell you it’s corporations and businesses (that) create jobs,” Clinton told the crowd. “You know that old theory, ‘trickle-down economics.’ That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly.”
Last time we checked perpetual government “stimulus” was spectacularly failing our country – to the tune of 93 million working age Americans out of the labor force, stagnant wages and $18 trillion in debt.
Oh and record government dependency … which was probably government’s objective in the first place.
By contrast, businesses – especially small and mid-sized ones – do create jobs. And they’d be creating millions more of them if government would stop taxing and regulating them to death.
While Clinton’s remark is shockingly stupid, it’s not surprising coming from her. After all she is the mother of U.S. president Barack Obama‘s socialized medicine law. Or grandmother, if you ask some of her opponents …
Clinton has been working hard in recent months to distance herself from Obama – burnishing her credentials as a “neo-conservative” (a.k.a. warmonger).
Her objective? Picking up moderate voters who approve of the “Republican” foreign policy.
Not sure how this helps that effort …
What’s going on??
It’s no wonder her hubby was dipping his cigars and chode in Monica, that’s a hard face to love.
Anyway, I think she’ll get traction with the business owner hate thing.
“Eat the rich” is an easy sell as the economy deteriorates . People are suffering more and see the big corps getting all the tax breaks they can’t get…so naturally it’s easy to hate them.(and anyone “doing well”, because the assumption is they cheated for it)
Never once do they consider that they reason they are struggling has nothing to do with a corporate tax break. They are just struggling, see the inequality, & are rightfully pissed but misplace their blame.
It’s gov’t that both has impoverished them and created the atmosphere of economic inequality, but they are blinded by their emotions and the demagogues that play them like a fiddle(credit Hillary).
And so it begins.
BTW, what happened to Disqus?
Wondering the same thing, looks like they changed the comment section.
BTW it now sucks.
What’s up with the shitty message board?
What’s up with the shitty message board?
Nancy Mace, PLEASE come back!
Fits decided he was tired of paying Disqus to “create jobs.”
Fits, what’s going on with your Disqus connection? It looks funny with the faded fonts and such. I just went to another site that I frequent that uses Disqus and it looks normal.
your blog is gone.Trav payback?
T-Rav apparently told Fits he was going to put the family in a mobile home within a year.
Maybe he just cut the cable off?
What does it matter?
Hey, Will, what’s the big deal with this new format? Faint display on comments. How do we reply to a comment? Why do we have to scroll to the end to make a new comment? This is not “commentator friendly”.. Please don’t tell us that the GrandTurnip has hacked Fitsnews..!!
PS: — There’s no way to edit a previous comment..!!
Now I’m sorry that I didn’t trademark my AVATAR..!!
What a maroon. Has Hillary hired Sheheen’s campaign managers?
But maroon is such a nice color.
Comment section sucks now Fits….
Like The Colonel would EVER support Hillary Clinton.Hell,the Republicans could nominate Bobby Harrell for President and he would rationalize voting for that crook!
The Democrats nominated and elected an American hating socialist that shredded the Constitution and created ISIS from the prayer rug in the wHite House.
New comment section sucks. I guess you want to cut down on comments. You have succeeded.
Don’t let em run you off, my friend?
My guess is the majority of lib/socialists will quit the blog as they can no longer use the “like” button to feed their ego’s and try and justify their perverted and warped world-view.
Smirks comes to mind.
Thank goodness Haley still pays Sandi, so she’ll come here no matter how bad the comments section gets.
Gotta pay dem billz, gnomesaiyan?
Trickle down economics has failed, and it has failed tremendously. This country has been in a downward spiral since the 80s. Don’t worry, though, Republicans have an explanation:
Obama has a time machine!
Smirks, is “Obama has a time machine!” that Hope and Change thingy?
Hillary is just speaking from personal experience. Government has certainly created all of her jobs.
Hillary is a Socialist/Marxist Pig? This is not a dog bites man story. More like dog acts like dog has always been.
I think she sees Elizabeth Warren over her shoulder, that is the problem here.
I see what your saying but you would think she had the sense to step just inside the right of her. Bill and Dick Morris called that triangulation and it really worked for him. Hill will never win trying to out loon Warren.
About time someone challenged this right-wing horseshit.
Absolutely correct. Hillary IS the right wing, the “progressive” Fascist elitist wing. Most sane democrats have seen through her pile of road apples.
Trickle down DOESN’T work. Turns out those at the top are hoarders. I’d propose a tax rate of 90% on all income over $10M. THEN you’d see it trickle down.
You are just jealous that you will never, ever make it to the top of that money pyramid.
FARC You! Keep your hands off of my stack, Jack.
Why do so many assume that people who rail about the rich being greedy are jealous? I, for one, would not want to be Donald Trump or a Koch or the CEO of a corporation. Who needs that much money? With all those starving and thirsting in the world, it’s a sin. Most of them could never spend what they have in their lifetime and work too hard to keep it. Money can’t buy love or happiness.
“… Who needs that much money? …”
The poor need it obviously. The rich pay the taxes that the poor consume, or at least that’s the way it is supposed to work.
“… Most of them could never spend what they have in their lifetime …”
Oh contraire’: Every rich person I know or know of tries mightily to spend and/or give away what they have. Trump? Forbes? Gates? Ellison? Buffet? Al Gore? … They all give away most of their net worth, either in the near term or through their foundations and trusts. “I know better how to give away my money than any government.” – Sir John Templeton ( http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/assessment/1997/06/gods_venture_capitalist.html )
Those are the good guys giving it away, but it keeps on pouring in.
You are so so right. The more they make; the more they want; and the more they’ll keep away from anybody else. And all that money and stuff does not make them happy.
“Damn! Damn! Damn! How can I get control over my sick, twisted mind?
That woman is a complete loser. She epitomizes the “progressive” Fascist elites agenda.
You can’t deny that it is demand, not businesses, that creates jobs.
You think a business would hire anyone if they didn’t have to? Nope, it costs money to pay employees.
They hire because they are unable to meet the demand of their customers and clients and they expect that the money they make off fulfilling the demand of these customers will exceed the money they pay the employee.
“… You think a business would hire anyone if they didn’t have to? …”
I suppose you think that g’ment will hire anyone because they have to? The only reason g’ment hires is to rope-a-dope Helots, slaves to the bureaucracy. And g’ment would not hire as many as they do except to keep private enterprise from getting the productive jobs.
“… They hire because they are unable to meet the demand of their customers and clients and they expect that the money they make off fulfilling the demand of these customers will exceed the money they pay the employee. …” = WTF is this? Twisted logic fur sure.
BTW: The profit motive is what creates wealth … and pays taxes. Government? Not!
Nope, government also hires to satisfy demand, such as demand for more infrastructure.
No its factual logic, businesses only hire because of demand, and its the intention of the business that they will make more revenue from fulfilling demand than the expenses they will pay for having the employee (its how they make a profit, Revenues exceeding expenses)
Demand creates jobs
Businesses would be perfectly happy if they could do said business without employees as employee compensation is an expense.
But in order to meet consumer demand, they must have labor.
Correct. And thusly businesses create jobs … to supply the demand.
And if there were no demand, there would be no business … and no jobs … and no profits for the business … and no taxes to collect.
In one of my businesses, I used to have six employees. Now that business only requires three employees, thanks to Oh Bummer and politically greedy government replacing the demand with welfare recipients, who are now dumbed down and rely on trickle down poverty.
So like I said, its demand, not business that creates jobs, since without the demand the business will not hire.
Of course missing from that equation is government, because government can not efficiently replace business in fulfillment of a demand, even when government tries to.
Example = health care insurance. Even if it is perceived that business is providing health care insurance at an excessive or exorbitant profit, government still can not compete.
In most cases you are correct, government cannot compete with business, as it is less efficient.
However there are cases where business, left to its own devices will come up with a situation that is less economically beneficial than allowing the government to take a role.
Lets look at your healthcare example.
Yes business can give more efficient care than government can. However when dealing with a situation where healthcare costs can become too expensive for people to afford, or where people will choose to take advantage of more expensive forms of care (such as ER) in order to avoid paying health costs, the government has a role to play.
Government should not be the first option, but it should be used to help deal with situations where the free market on its own will create a negative result.
“… when dealing with a situation where healthcare costs can become too expensive for people to afford, or where people will choose to take advantage of more expensive forms of care (such as ER) in order to avoid paying health costs, the government has a role to play. …”
Oh? If (health care) costs are too high for people to afford, then there must be an imbalance in the supply and demand equation: greater demand, smaller supply. … Which the private sector (business) will promptly address but government can not address without additional taxation.
The imbalance is of course driven by government in the case of health care insurance. Fully 30% of the costs (overhead) of private sector health care insurance is spent satisfying government regulations. (Ask any medical insurance office worker or private general practice nurse.) … Yet Even with that, the private sector is able to deliver health care insurance more efficiently than government can … except for BummerCare and the add-on taxes, tithes and tributes.
In order for that to happen, you have to have a situation where Doctors don’t benefit from offering patients the most expensive treatments.
Its in a doctor’s best interest to push the more expensive treatments which will benefit their bottom line.
If I’m a doctor and I know by offering the more expensive surgery I can make more money than if I offer prescription drugs (or tell them to just eat a healthier diet and exercise more), which do you think I’ll offer?
Patients trust their doctor’s and usually don’t know enough about medicine to ask for cheaper alternatives, this results in higher medical costs, which the insurance companies push onto consumers.
“… Its in a doctor’s best interest to push the more expensive treatments which will benefit their bottom line. …”
And to pay the associated taxes to support an interfering government.
BTW: That doctor who overcharges for services will not be taking home too much in the way of additional profits as competing doctors will get some of his business, either at a lower cost to the patient or with better service or both.
Not likely, as the supply of doctors is lower than the demand for medical services (as there is a license required to be a doc, the supply is limited).
So any decent doctor will be able to find enough patients to go home with a fat wallet even if they gouge.
The free market does not work for healthcare unless you are willing to let people who cannot pay die. The demand for healthcare is inelastic. People who need healthcare have no options. Further, there is oligopoly power involved in the health care market. The AMA must approve new Medical Schools and the licensure of doctors. They have always controlled the number of doctors.
The bottom line is the individual has no market power in the healthcare arena. Doctors who overcharge will still have all the patients they can handle, so long as payment is guaranteed by someone.
Everyone should have access to quality health care, and that will not happen in a free market system.
We probably have the most free market health care system in the first world, and the results fall well below the health care results of most of the other first world nations.
“The free market does not work for healthcare unless you are willing to let people who cannot pay die. The demand for healthcare is inelastic. People who need healthcare have no options. …”
This is what happens when some folks confuse “healthcare” with “health care insurance”.
The free market does have options for people who can not pay for healthcare. One does not always have to pay in money, but can pay with barter or trade (as happened regularly during the Great Depression) for healthcare … And in the case of the doctors’ bills, many doctors operate under the strict Hippocratic Oath, to heal the sick and injured without regard to compensation. And I, who may be able to afford my own healthcare, do not mind paying extra to know that my neighbor is cared for even if he can not pay.
Health Care Insurance is an entirely different matter.
Too many folks there is no difference between healthcare and health care insurance … because the g’ment/media/”progressive” Fascists have brainwashed the Helots into believing everyone “needs” the insurance in order to get the care. (Something akin to the “no-fault” auto insurance that is seemingly “required” to drive a car.)
If the doctors say they will not take barter or trade, only money, then you cannot barter or trade.
And Doctor’s may operate under the oath, but if the patient refuses to pay the bill, guess who gets stuck with the cost?
That’s right, the people who do pay.
And costs rise.
This is where government can step in and play a role.
Then find another doctor.
Then find another government.
If the next doctor says the same thing, and you don’t know that much about medicine, why would you question it?
This is why the government has a role to play
Well, if you were to actually consult your government instead of a doctor for your illness, maybe your illness is all in your head :>)
Check out how your g’ment is doing with O’Ebola …
Pretty well. only one person has died.
And if the doctor is telling you a lie to boost their profits, they aren’t helpful either
Example= the former Soviet Union. Nothing teaches that lesson like listening to my Russian born friends. 8 hours in line for 3 rotten potatoes. Government can’t kill businesses, they just go underground to the black markets. As always, its the people who suffer.
Well, the people who believe in g’ment as a solution, maybe.
BTW: The Soviet Russian were not the only poli-wonks who tried socialized medicine and failed. Consider the Nazis, consider the Italian Fascists, consider South Africa recently … One might also include considering the Plymouth Rock Pilgrims, who had a mortally rate greater than 50% until the Indians converted them to basic capitalism and family farming. (That’s right: more than half of the Pilgrims died of disease and starvation during the first year because they insisted on communal farming, communal living and communal health care.)
Business and Capitalism: I will cure you if you pay me.
Government and Socialism: I will pretend to cure you if you pretend to pay me.
Business and Capitalism. i will try to cure you if you pay me what I demand. Whatever the value of your life is to you, that will be the price. If you cannot pay the amount I demand I will let you die. I will even let you die to prove that I am willing to let you die, so that others will not be tempted to not pay my price.
Same, same with capital crime defense lawyers.
And if enough people don’t have the money/jobs to create the demand, then no jobs created and on and on. Big circle.
With hands flailing, “What difference does it make”.
If you’re looking to Hillary rodman Clinton for politically astute dialogue. Look in another direction. Why is no one asking who Hillary rodman and mister Clinton going to most often for the millions of dollars In campaign contributions?!? Do you reckon that the Clinton’s both have had their hand out repeatedly for campaign cash from BIG BUSINESS ?!?
Obama. The Clinton’s, and all other libtard democrats are the epitome of hypocrisy.
If you’re a democrat and offended by the truth of your parties hypocrisy, find a new party. No not necessarily republicans but something better than failed democrat policies and politicians who are at best incompetent but mostly just corrupt.
The center cannot hold.
This article is ridiculous. Please put “REPUBLICAN GRANDFATHER RANT:” before these kinds of articles next time. Also “you didn’t build that” was not a gaffe. How in the world is stating that Americans use public resources(roads,water,police) to help build themselves up offensive in any way? I never understood that. Romney also said the same thing almost word for word when he was speaking during the opening ceremony of the SLC Olympics, why is this not an issue?
Because Republicans are hypocrites. They are willing to lie to get power. With power comes money from rich people.