Five-Star Future Tigers?

Clemson University’s football program is out of the running for the nation’s No. 1 recruit Robert Nkemdiche – who previously gave the school a verbal commitment but now seems likely to play for Ole Miss. The Tigers have also been eliminated from consideration by a pair of four-star prospects – defensive end Elijah…

Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney gestures during third-quarter action in Atlanta on Thursday, Sept. 10, 2009. (Travis Bell/Sideline Carolina)

Clemson University’s football program is out of the running for the nation’s No. 1 recruit Robert Nkemdiche – who previously gave the school a verbal commitment but now seems likely to play for Ole Miss. The Tigers have also been eliminated from consideration by a pair of four-star prospects – defensive end Elijah Daniel and wide receiver Demarcus Robinson.

Does that mean the Tigers won’t be able to continue their solid string of recruiting classes? We’ll have to wait and see …

Clemson’s incoming classes have ranked among the nation’s most talented over the last three seasons – including a Top Ten class in 2011.

Head coach Dabo Swinney (and more to the point, offensive coordinator Chad Morris) have translated this firepower into back-to-back ten win seasons – including a statement victory over SEC powerhouse Louisiana State in the 2012 Chick-fil-A Bowl.

The Tigers’ win over LSU not only earned Clemson a ton of national respect, it landed the Atlantic Coast Conference school on the map of some serious stars – including five-star defensive end Carl Lawson (Alpharetta, Georgia) and five-star defensive tackle Montravious Adams (Dooley County, Georgia).

Lawson – the better of the two prospects – appears likely to choose between the Tigers and Tennessee, while Adams is currently favoring Clemson over Georgia.

Lawson does have one remaining visit to Auburn – where he verbally committed last year.

If Clemson is able to land both Lawson and Adams, it would not only guarantee a fourth straight Top 20 recruiting class – it would go a long way toward softening the blow of losing Nkemdiche. In fact both of these Georgia superstars are elite high school talents likely to compete immediately for playing time on Clemson’s defensive line.

Wherever Lawson and Adams wind up, Clemson is once again going toe-to-toe with SEC powerhouses in their own backyards for blue chip prospects – a distinctly positive sign for Tiger fans. Indeed, recruiting battles like these underscore the importance of Clemson’s 2013 season opener against the University of Georgia – which finished the 2012 season ranked No. 5 nationally.


Pic: Travis Bell, Sideline Carolina

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Original Good Old Boy January 29, 2013 at 5:15 pm

How is OL recruiting coming?

Jeff January 29, 2013 at 5:21 pm

Its one thing to recruit… its a whole other thing to be able to coach that talent.. I look at the win over LSU and am reminded that the sun does shine on a dogs behind every now and then.

Anonymous January 29, 2013 at 9:50 pm

Dude miles was out coached and LSU WAS OUT CLASSED the game should have been a 14 point or more win.

south mauldin January 29, 2013 at 5:26 pm

Dabo looks like he can’t decide between the #6 and the #12 on a Jimmy Johns menu.

fishy smelling coot January 29, 2013 at 5:48 pm

I can’t either. They are both delicious.

fiddler84 January 29, 2013 at 5:38 pm


We have a verbal from maverick morris (3 star OT), and tyrone Crowder is going to commit on NSD. he is a 4 star. we also picked up some big time OL targets last year. OL is definitely not going to be Clemson’s weak point. DL and DB is what we need the most.

Jim Sweet January 29, 2013 at 6:16 pm

with dabo we still gonna luz anyway. dat boy cant coach

mph January 29, 2013 at 7:22 pm

They’re handing out scholarships to players that nobody wanted – see the throw aways to NCST players they’er poaching.

Yeah, elite my ass. The wheels are coming off and we’re still hearing about National Championships. Pfffft.

Oh, and before talking about that BCS appearance that resulted in the worst beating since Kunta Kinte got whipped in Roots, remember that Northern Illinois University got to the BCS. Of course they didn’t get romped by an unranked a Big East team.

CNSYD January 29, 2013 at 10:04 pm


you are correct. N. Illinois has played in the BCS and South Carolina hasn’t.

scsince60 January 30, 2013 at 12:12 am

Up periscope! How can we beat the ‘Cocks in this decade? Remove safety measures on all torpedoes!!!! Captain Dabo has the helm!!! Dive, Dive, Dive!!!!!

toyota kawaski January 30, 2013 at 8:16 am

cnSTD no one remembers who won the Gator Bowl,Outback,Peach ect but the whole country will always remember that Clempson got ran in the Orange Bowl.

mph January 30, 2013 at 9:05 am

CNSYD, yeah, and you can thank them and Clemson for exposing the BCS as a fraud and helped push it towards reform. That’s Clemson’s BCS legacy.

Oh, where’d SC finish in the BCS standings the past two years? Here’a hint: It sounds like top ten.

CNSYD January 30, 2013 at 9:42 am


all dressed up and no place to go. USC east and the lowest ranked BCS team went to the same BCS bowl. None.

BigT January 29, 2013 at 7:44 pm

Clemson is hanging by a thread that was saved because LSU had 10 players leaving for the NFL, and quit…

Not to mention: if Chad Morris can get any team to give him an HC job, Dabo is immediately on the ticking time clock to termination…

Clemson is the most respected WEAK team in America…there will be a point of exposure of them…and FITS will act like he never bought the Bull-$@#!*…but we all know he is eating the crap Dabo is feeding him…

scsince60 January 29, 2013 at 8:12 pm

I’m afraid at some point playing Clemson every year may begin to hurt Carolina’s strength of schedule. I wish them the best as they prepare for next season.

South Mauldin January 29, 2013 at 9:01 pm

You are correct. Wofford gives us more problems and their strength of schedule is equal to Clemson.

Really?!? January 29, 2013 at 9:06 pm

Big T, Again, your an idiot!

17 Division 1 schools made offers to include Alabama, Florida, Michigan and Oregon jumped in yesterday.

It will be another top 10 recruiting class for Dabo for the fourth straight year.

Hope y’all enjoyed the ride! Turn out the lights, the party’s over.

Very soon we shall meet, stomp your ass to go on and win ANOTHER National Championship.

Please don’t take us off your schedule!

scsince60 January 29, 2013 at 9:44 pm

I guess you meant “YOU’RE” an idiot, but contractions can be confusing……Hey, It’s great to know Dabo is finally ready to beat the ‘Cocks this year. I bet you chaps are some kind of excited!

CNSYD January 29, 2013 at 10:06 pm


beating USC is no big deal. Hell, Georgia Tech stomped them in the Sun Bowl.

scsince60 January 29, 2013 at 11:00 pm

Admiral, You are the clever one with the “USC” thing. HaHa……Oh, wait I think a call is coming through,…Dabo, Dabooo, pick up, pick up,…..your daddy Steve is calling….you’ve been a very baaad little boy,….bend over and grab your ankles, it will soon be that time of the year again.

toyota kawaski January 30, 2013 at 8:21 am

Bi-Really you have out recruited us the last several seasons and still get the same results come Nov.

scsince60 January 29, 2013 at 10:38 pm

Admiral, Funny you would mention Georgia Tech. I’m sure you and other avid Clemson football historians are aware the Yellow Jackets lead the series with you worthy fellows 50-26-2. Would you consider that “domination”? Better get crackin’. But, of course, those old football records don’t have much bearing on the present. Do they?

scsince60 January 30, 2013 at 12:23 am

Admiral, If I must draw you a damned picture, you were suggesting Georgia Tech was not much of a football program, although they obviously own the Tigers. Well, Mr., which is it? Answer smartly there, no more lip from the crew.

CNSYD January 30, 2013 at 8:24 am


How stands the series history in football between USC east and Duke. OBTW, you chickens had banned Clemson from using history yet you continue to use it. So if history is now in vogue, what is the series record between USC east and Clemson?

scsince60 January 30, 2013 at 9:11 am

Admiral, I’ve warned you about this insubordination for the last time. Clemson College was started in the post Civil War period to teach the lower class in the state farming techniques. The Johny Come Lately school was modeled after Miss State and only recently has offered four year degrees. You’ll find yourself on report soon enough if you don’t straighten up, Mr.

CNSYD January 30, 2013 at 9:44 am


next time you criticize farmers, don’t do it with your mouth full.

History lesson January 30, 2013 at 10:08 am

from 1908 -1973 Clemson and Georgia Tech played 35 times. Georgia Tech won 32 of those. See how important history is?

Anonymous January 30, 2013 at 5:15 pm

Chief, How did I criticize farmers? I was explaining Clemson Agricultural and Technical College’s original mission statement of 1890. The school wasn’t organized to serve the landed upper class or social elites of the low country. The University of South Carolina in Columbia, had been educating the young men of our state for over 90 years before Clemson came into being. It did take a four year break 1861-65 when all the students and most of the faculty were at war.

scsince60 January 30, 2013 at 5:18 pm

Anonymous is I. Hit the wrong button.

VoiceofReason January 30, 2013 at 4:15 am

And just where did you all get your coaching and recruiting credentials?

Is 5 Points U reloading?

Jim Sweet January 30, 2013 at 7:22 am

This is for the idiot VOR that used to post about how much better an academic school Clemson was and that the athletes must be so much smarter than USC’s, and also to prove that the guy with the cute little Clowney fake report card name is a dumbass.
According to a Clemson website, “Clemson student-athletes posted a 2.99 GPA for the spring semester of 2012, the highest on record, according to data released by Clemson University’s Office of Institutional Research and Planning.”
According to WLTX “USC announced Monday that the school set the highest departmental grade point average (GPA) on record (3.267), based on numbers from the Fall 2012 semester. That broke the previous record of 3.202 set in Fall of 2011. USC athletics officials say Gamecock student-athletes have posted a combined GPA of 3.0 or better for 12 consecutive semesters.”
So as far as Clemson being smarter, it has its highest GPA ever of 2.99, never actually breaking the 3.0 mark and yet USC has 12 in a row over 3.0. Hmmm. That’s 6 years for those of you at Clemson playing sports.
Well Im sure that the football team is smarter right, nope.
“Clemson’s football program had a 2.61 team GPA, just below the all-time record of 2.63 set in the spring of 2008”
According to the same article/story on WLTX as earlier, “USC Football GPA was 2.918”
I know people assume USC athletes less bright, but it seems to me that Clemsux’s is lower. Surely there is a way to spin this into Clemsux being better. Maybe in 1948 the GPA’s were reversed or something. There it is, history. its all they got. But According to this Clemson athletes are not doing too well in that either (at least not in the classroom, and we know not on the field anymore) Bottom line is Clemson sucks at everything. hahahaha

VoiceofReason January 30, 2013 at 7:32 am

Looks like Tiger town might be causing some Taters to do poorly in class. Also there is no “5 points U”. Obviously you are either too stupid to know or are too worried about being “PC” but there are actually 5 colleges or universities within 5 miles from 5 points and 2 others other than USC actually closer to 5 points. Benedict College and Allen University are geographically closer to 5 points than USC. Seriously the of both is just straight up Harden st. by 5 blocks. The “center” of USC’s campus is 9 blocks up Greene so do you just want to assume only USC students go there. You must not have been near it in a while, or are too scared to “offend’ others by stating the truth. There are 2 others with in the 5 mile radius and 1 more with in 10. Get your fact right, because you missed them with all your ACC is so smart talk. Welcome in Louisville the worst D1 school there is.

CNSYD January 30, 2013 at 8:27 am

VoiceofReason, Louisville. Another team that has played in the BCS and USC east hasn’t.

VoiceofReason January 30, 2013 at 9:25 am

But unlike Clemsux actually earned it and didn’t get embarrassed in their game. ESPN still laughs at it. USC might have lost the SEC championship to the eventual national champ mind you but didn’t get laughed out the door by a team outside of the top 20. Also why only talk football? The SEC had their back to back reigning champ in SC while also finishing 2nd in baseball, then the reigning champ in basketball with 7 times champ in football. That is why USC can Chant SEC. We helped keep the SEC in total dominance in all major sports. And we all know the only reason USC didn’t play in a BCS the last 2 years is because the over rated crybaby conference that is the ACC cried the felt entitled to an automatic BCS berth and wouldnt let a top 10 team into the BCS. They sound a lot like the democrats in that regard. 12 spots for the BCS should go to the top 12 teams period. Wasnt USC one in BOTH the last 2 years? Clemson not. Carolina yes.

CNSYD January 30, 2013 at 9:49 am


felt cries? interesting concept.

VoiceofReason January 30, 2013 at 10:30 am

It actually read “felt entitled” not “felt cries”. So you messed up trying to rag on me all because I left a y off the word they. Nice try genius but it still doesn’t change anything else I posted. I guess while we at it by pointing out little tid bits that may be wrong, you didn’t use caps to start either of the 2 separate sentences. Does it take away from what you were trying to say? I don’t think it did, you just worded it wrong. Ooops. It’s just if you are going to be a smart ass and point out things wrong, make sure you didn’t commit the same thing in your point. It was nice talking to you. I am going to go now.

BigT January 30, 2013 at 8:11 am

Clemson is no beter than Hawaii or N. Ill. with a good record. They can have nice-looking records because they play no one….

Chad Morris is good enough to GIMMICK the pathetic ACC….and the LSU fluke win has Clemson thinikng they are a legitimate D-1 program…

Clemson is a mid-major that will is slicking by, and a collapse is much more likely than being a Carolina-level program…

Dabo has a bunch of gulliable, wishful-thinking idiots (see FITS) fooled…

And when I prove right…none of you will come back and admit it…

toyota kawaski January 30, 2013 at 8:25 am

Well said Big-T

CNSYD January 30, 2013 at 8:29 am

“a Carolina-level program”. I will admit that UNC’s basketball team this year is not up to its usual standards.

Sarah Sez January 30, 2013 at 11:07 am

“And when I prove right…none of you will come back and admit it…”

Exactly when has this happened before? You think Bush II was a good president — nuff said.

VoiceofReason January 30, 2013 at 12:56 pm

well Bush was alot better than Obama is

toyota kawaski January 30, 2013 at 8:25 am

Tell me who the coach is again?

CNSYD January 30, 2013 at 8:30 am

I will defer to Les Miles. He knows.

toyota kawaski January 31, 2013 at 8:34 am

CnSTD it was the freaking Peach Bowl not the National Title like your little coach said.

Jim Sweet January 30, 2013 at 8:36 am

Dabos assembling top talent as usual just ask lsu. this is the year for the big one.,

Charlemagne, King of France January 30, 2013 at 8:56 am

its funny because the only people who arent saying clemson is a preseason top 5 team are the people in columbia. every single analyst has them on the short list to win the MNC.

haha January 30, 2013 at 9:04 am

and some also have South carolina on that same list. rememner those “experts” also had Southern Cal winning it all. How did that work out? nice try though

mph January 30, 2013 at 9:20 am

“every single analyst has them on the short list to win the MNC.”

I’m seriously blown away by Clemson fans. For decades we’ve been hearing this nonsense. Please list “every single analyst” that has said something like this.

Roy Philpot doesn’t count.

Fantasy can be fun.

scsince60 January 30, 2013 at 9:27 am

Your quarterback has a big butt and runs like a girl.

jeffy01 January 30, 2013 at 8:57 am

no history lesson needed. The last time the 2 played was a fairly accurate, current measure of the 2 programs. 27-17

CNSYD January 30, 2013 at 9:51 am

jeffy boy, it is not I who is invoking history but your fellow cocks. when it suits their “purpose” they roll out history. when it doesn’t they say history does not matter. so which is it?

doodoo January 30, 2013 at 9:02 am

Clemson football. “Old history lessons is all we have. please dont take it from us”

mph January 30, 2013 at 9:17 am

“will be another top 10 recruiting class for Dabo for the fourth straight year.”

Ugh, Rivals has Clemson sitting at 21. Scout has them outside the top 25. You have google on your computer?

“Dabos assembling top talent as usual just ask lsu. this is the year for the big one.”

From the guy who is so retarded that he thinks that Dabo is a better coach than Spurrier. Hey Jim, what recruiting service are you looking at? In any event, the LSU win was the second win against a top 25 team in what? Eight years? Pathetic.

And each year is always “the big one” in Pickens County. It always ends with Clemson pulling a Clemson. Two years ago it was the taters getting romped by unranked GT, NCST, a 17 drubbing by USC and the biggest beating in BCS history. Ha! This year was a spanking by FSU and USC, the only ranked teams on that cream puff schedule. Next year, I expect that seat to awfully hot when Dabo gets drubbed by USC once again.

But you’ll always have history. Sadly, that’s all you have.

scsince60 January 30, 2013 at 9:35 am

And another graduating class at Clem can say they never beat the “Cocks.

CNSYD January 30, 2013 at 9:52 am


I know. Next you chickens will want royalties on your patented “Wait till next year” cry.

Grateful Cock January 30, 2013 at 10:28 am

CNSYD–we still like the “Wait till next year” slogan, only now it means every time we kick Clemsux’s ass (4 in a row now, right?), we can’t wait to do it again next year! LOL! Fear The Thumb! The W-B will be rocking and rolling!

mph January 30, 2013 at 10:42 am

Sorry, hombre, that slogan is now the property of Dabo and company. Just wait till next year – there will be heisman a tropy and national championships and greatness!

Can’t wait to see Clemson pull another Clemson.

mph January 30, 2013 at 9:26 am

I just realized there are at least five sock puppets on this thread.

Trolling for hits, I guess.

Oh, well. I was really hoping there really were Tater fans talking about the National Championship after winning the chicken bowl. Guess not.

CNSYD January 30, 2013 at 9:54 am

There is a way these children could fix that but then they wouldn’t be able to play their little games.

jeffy01 January 30, 2013 at 10:56 am

no histroy matters. Only the current score. Im ok with that.

CNSYD January 30, 2013 at 11:25 am

jeffy boy,

no problem as long as we all stay on the same page.

scsince60 January 30, 2013 at 2:24 pm

It’s a state law that Carolina has to play Clemson every year. This could be a very real problem in the years to come as scheduling Clemson begins to hurt our strength of schedule, power rankings, etc. yet we are bound by state law. Under these circumstances, might the NCAA issue some sort of waiver, or maybe allow Carolina to play an extra regular season game to bolster our schedule? Just an idea.

jeffy01 January 30, 2013 at 1:15 pm

you and I are always on the same page. (according to secret sources at FITS)

BigT January 31, 2013 at 9:46 am

Clemson is like Obama…Smoke and mirors, supported by an idiot media (see FITS)….

Real sports people KNOW that Clemson is a pretty weak program…that thrives only because of the HORRIBLE conference it plays in…

I still LMAO watching the replay of the fan shots after Dylan’s 3rd and 19 First-Down run…

D@*n that is FUNNY…watching Tater fans Crap their pants…

toyota kawaski January 31, 2013 at 3:44 pm

i like the time of possesion in the 3rd quarter

BigT January 31, 2013 at 4:55 pm

Could you refresh my memory TK?…I can’t remember..was it something like 15:00 to :00?…..Hahahahahahaha..

PS: Bruce on that last TD was CLASSIC…it was a great play..and BROKE their Backs in the BEST chance EVER……

Really?!? February 1, 2013 at 2:55 pm

Wow! The Coots are talking history! I thought “history” was taboo when discussing Clemson owning your sorry Ass’s for a 100 years.

Enjoy it. As I said before, the party is over.

toyota kawaski February 1, 2013 at 4:23 pm

party is over till Nov 30,2013

VoiceofReason February 1, 2013 at 4:33 pm

whats the matter pumpkin. cant figure out the all “history talk” is picking on you taters by showing you it means nothing. history is all you have, and all you can talk about. We pick on you for it since now you cant win anymore. We talk about now because we are also winning now. no one but taters care about the past. The party will only get bigger in Nov. when the cocks spank your ass again. bye bye little kitty


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