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SC Teachers Arm Themselves In Wake Of Shooting

CONNECTICUT RAMPAGE SPURS GUN BUYING BONANZA If the desired outcome of the elementary school massacre in Newton, Connecticut this week was a demonization of guns and a ramp-up of gun control laws, the early returns aren’t looking so good – at least not in South Carolina. Saturday December 15, 2012…

CONNECTICUT RAMPAGE SPURS GUN BUYING BONANZA

If the desired outcome of the elementary school massacre in Newton, Connecticut this week was a demonization of guns and a ramp-up of gun control laws, the early returns aren’t looking so good – at least not in South Carolina.

Saturday December 15, 2012 may have been the busiest single day for gun sales in the Palmetto State’s history, sources close to the U.S. Attorney’s office tell FITS.  These sources were confirming anecdotal reports we obtained from Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agents who were conducting background checks in connection with the wave of new purchases.

Prominently featured among the new gun owners?

Teachers …

“I was just at Shooter’s Choice,” one of our sources said, referring to a gun store/ range in West Columbia, S.C.  “Four teachers from Brennan Elementary School were there and they signed up for their CWP (concealed weapons’ permit) classes while testing hand guns for purchase on the range.”

Brennan is a downtown Columbia, S.C. elementary school.

Good for these teachers … and good for their students.  We’re not saying that teachers with firearms could have stopped the massacre in Connecticut.  We are saying that if teachers want to take steps to protect themselves in their own classrooms, that’s a good thing.

Currently South Carolina law prohibits teachers (or anyone except a law enforcement official) from carrying a weapon onto school property – concealed or otherwise.  Well, that’s the law at government-run schools anyway.

Of course many teachers don’t abide by that law – a number that could soar in the aftermath of the Newton shooting.

“More teachers may start carrying illegally now,” one source told us.

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95 comments

Negro December 15, 2012 at 10:42 pm

Amen. These teachers know that the only protection they may have in the classroom when some thing like this happens is a gun and good aim.

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tomstickler December 16, 2012 at 8:37 pm

I appreciate a comment made by another on another blog.

“So I’m a teacher. According to conservative orthodoxy, I’m a parasite on the public’s dime who is only interested in indoctrinating the precious children of America into communism or atheism or whatever. I can’t be trusted to have any control over the curriculum I teach. I can’t be trusted to fairly and impartially evaluate my students, let alone my colleagues. I can’t be trusted to have collective bargaining rights. I can’t be trusted to have an objective view of governmental policy when it comes to my own profession.

But they’ll trust me to keep a gun in a room filled with children.”

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CL December 17, 2012 at 9:24 am

That is quite a straw man that teacher erects. I, like every conservative I know, love teachers. The parasites are public sector unions (be they for teachers, subway workers, whatever). Its not about trusting UNIONS to be able to collectively bargain, the evidence is quite clear that unions are very good at maximizing their own advantage. The problem is that the unions are negotiating with politicians they put in office. So they are essentially “negotiating” with their own sock puppets who rubber stamp ridiculous contracts.

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Thebeachisback December 22, 2012 at 4:06 pm

Well said, Tomstickler!

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junior justice December 15, 2012 at 10:48 pm

GUN CONTROL: means hitting your target (:}

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junior justice December 15, 2012 at 10:49 pm

(:) = “double tap”, folks

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junior justice December 15, 2012 at 10:55 pm

The expression on this girl’s face is telling someone that she is SERIOUS. By the way, is that cum on her forehead? Fits, where do you find these great pictures?

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Uncle Remus December 16, 2012 at 7:48 am

So you think she is upset over receiving a facial? Could be!

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Archie December 16, 2012 at 12:43 am

Why should teachers be the only ones carrying weapons? Every person at an educational institution, K-12 and beyond — students, faculty, librarians, coaches, nurses, kitchen help, janitors, bus drivers — should be trained in firearms and carry a pistol. Liberals are driving this issue out of proportion. We need more weapons, not less. How are people to know when the next loonie shows up with a semi-automatic?

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Destiny Now December 16, 2012 at 4:49 am

Shut up, Archie. Over-the-top hyperbole does not make the point you’re attempting to make.

Come up with a workable “gun control” solution and get back to us when you have something worth considering.

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 5:43 am

A lot of FITS followers are Liberals, and nutjobs at that (creep on the FB pages and you’ll see)…..

So you can bet a few of these Murder-prone, anti-gun B@$t@*ds just crossed Brennan Elementary of their target list…Coward = Liberal…

If you Anti-Gun Idiots think it’s OK for a police officer to have a gun, you should be OK w/ a teacher packing…

Where guns are more legal by law-abiding citizens, mentally ill leftist murderers shy away from…

DC and Chicago banned guns…and they are too of the most crime-rotten, death-wish sewers in the US…

Liberals are WRONG on almost EVERYTHING…but lives are lost (not just livlihoods) in the Left’s IGNORANCE over guns…

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Negro December 16, 2012 at 7:46 am

Absolutely! Every time something happens, a liberal comes up with some political control tactic instead of a real solution

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 7:31 am

You are one sick puppy Big T
“Mentally ill leftist murderers” ??????
you are a prime example why guns should ONLY be owned by sane emotionally stable people.
You are a ticking time bomb….where those innocent kids ” conservative”? What if some of there parents are ” liberals ” and voted for Obama?
“murder prone, anti gun b.s.t.a.r.s”? What DO YOU suggest we do with Obamo- voting , anti- gun, pro-choice liberals? ???
Do tell us what you have in mind. ..

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Uncle Remus December 16, 2012 at 7:48 am

Teachers and all other school officials should have right to pack heat. Only way to deter this shit.

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dwb619 December 17, 2012 at 9:10 am

YES SIR!

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Robert December 16, 2012 at 7:54 am

The more you promote guns, the closer you are getting all of us to a ban.

The train on the track will ban assault weapons. And I’m not opposed to it.

As for other guns, I won’t support a ban. But I do support strict regulations, or at least as strict as vehicle sales and operation.

As for Newtown, not sure what could have prevented this event. But I do believe more guns would not stopped it.

We must examine why America has more of these events than rest of the world.

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Mike December 16, 2012 at 1:49 pm

Well the comments sure have been…. interesting…

Gun control is not the solution, and Friday pretty much proves it. Connecticut has some of the strongest gun laws in the country, yet here we see someone who was determined to hurt others killing a law abiding citizen, his own mother, and taking their arms to cause that hurt. Now if this person is willing to take the life of their own mother in order to obtain arms to cause death and mayhem then what regard do you think they will have for laws?
Throwing around words like “assault weapon” “Bushmaster” “assault rifle” is pointless. Bushmaster is a brand, there’s no such thing as an assault weapon, or you could say that every weapon (gun, blade, bat, etc) is an assault weapon, and assault rifles are select fire weapons, which are so rare in crimes that you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning while being eaten by a shark than shot by one.
Creating limits by law, on those who follow the law, does nothing to help situations like this. You say if no one has guns, this wouldn’t happen, but the criminal element /always/ has guns.

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Brakeman December 16, 2012 at 8:44 am

The nut job stole the weapons from a sane, law abiding citizen then turned them on her. I’m not sure i want 100 pistols in my sons school left in purses or desk drawers for some 12 year old to grab or play with. Somehow 8 hours of training at some mom and pop gun range doesn’t seem like enough training for a second rate teacher that can’t remember to check roll everyday.

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 8:48 am

Yeah right Uncle Remus
We all “pack heat” ( you love that sexual connotation don’t you?) and every trip to the grocery store becomes a thrill-packed adventure..
Take your porn magazines and creep back under that stone you came from…keep dreaming of cum and head shots you sad little turd.

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 8:50 am

If they looked like Trayvon (could have looked like Obama’s son)…their lives matter more…Is what Obama told us…

Obama wanted ‘Revenge’ for people not his kind..

And when Obama’s preacher says GD America…is this what Obama meant???

When HATE is part of your political crusade…is it any wonder America is in the state it’s in???

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 8:53 am

Big T
When are you going to snap, pack hear and show us all what kinda guy you are????

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junior justice December 16, 2012 at 9:10 am

The posts by BigT leads me to believe that there must be several people posting under this name. The posts range from unintelligible to competent reasoning. It’s been interesting to see which one shows up.

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Sailor December 16, 2012 at 11:57 am

I think it’s the same asshole JJ. Just depends on how long ago he took his meds!

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jimlewis,owb December 16, 2012 at 9:47 am

Every year thousands of young men and women leave the military. My understanding is that a fair number of them have trouble finding gainful employment.

Given the number of free programs where individuals get something for doing nothing why would it not be possible for the military and schools to team up and provide employment for those who plan to leave the military.

During the last six months of an enlistment a soldier could be assigned to a local school for purpose of security. The cost of this deployment would be shared by the military and the school.

This type of assignment would help soldiers transition back to civilian life, make contacts to secure long term employment and be a visible force of opposition to those who want to make schools a killing ground

Nuts are nuts and they are going to do what they do. However I do believe that even nuts will have second thoughts before parading onto school grounds knowing that there are battle geared armed soldiers patrolling the grounds.

Every night national media seems to have videos of American Soldiers patrolling Foreign schools, public buildings and parks protecting the lives of innocent citizens.

I have never heard of a liberal, conservative or libertarian complain about protecting children of other nations.

The children in Connecticut were and are just as innocent as the children of Afghanistan.

Shame on all of us for not doing everything possible to protect Our Children, American Children, Our Future.

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 9:53 am

Liberals HARDLY EVER hear the Truth about themselves…It is rare for most people to GET IT…and/or to voice it…

That’s why Liberals never really Address their Hand in the deterioration of the country…They just Attack the people pointing them out…

But the Killer was from a Broken Home (most are and most vote liberal.)

Liberals have waged a War on Families for decades….And the Leftist Femenist movement advocates Hating men..and that contributes to torn families…

Until the Majority of Good people slap the living P!$$ out of the left…and Tell it like it is…we’ll suffer more and more rot…

Liberals are WRONG…but as you see in this tragic Murder by a likely leftist, they are using the bodies of children to perpetuate more of their Dangerous Liberal Theology….

When it’s YOUR child, maybe the good people will get enough guts and Outrage to Spit in the face of the Evil Leftist Filth that is soiling our nation…

Until then expect more…and nothing but Leftists, and their propaganda, to rule…

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 10:02 am

Jim Lewis,

Th complete militarization of our society is nonsense. Kids should not be in schools behind barb wire with soldiers patrolling.
Reasonable gun control is much more desirable.
How about a stringent gun license and training that matches what we get in the military? I know more about how to handle violent situations because I was trained and learned that deadly force is not the first option.
What speaks against gun ownership only for people olde than 25? Exceptions can be given but need to be justified…I mean 21 is the drinking age in this country!
Ban on automatic weapons and assault rifles. We had bushmasters in the service, you tell me why little Joey should get access to that? Doesn’t make sense!
Take the guns out of society as much as possible …..we have a long way To go With over 200 million guns in the US.
Keep the 2nd amendment, semiautomatic pistoles ( if people are trained and keep their license up on an annual basis ) and enjoy sports shooting and hunting.
Keep young adults (who have a higher propensity to overreact emotionally ) and people with prior convictions and mental problems away from them.
You will not prevent everything but maybe we can reduce our murder tolls down to European numbers..

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Todd December 16, 2012 at 11:15 am

Because a bushmaster just killed 18 six year olds. If there were ever a reason to outlaw them, Friday would be it.

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jimlewis,owb December 16, 2012 at 11:19 am

In any other time in any other place I have agreement with a lot you say.

Reality is guns are here and it looks like they will be here for a long time.

I am not advocating for or against gun control.

I am advocating for children who depend on us to protect them.

Barbed wire is not an option. Guard towers are not an option. Claymore mines are not an option.

I have not been overseas. However my granddaughters lived in Germany and traveled many countries across the pond. They have told me about armed soldiers on trains. Armed soldiers walking the streets. Armed soldiers in the airports.

Did they feel threatened, no. Were they afraid, no. Did they think their rights were being violated, no.

Did they feel safe, yes.

I do think that it is time to think outside of the box and make some reasonable choices based on what resources we have, current laws and common sense.

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Todd December 16, 2012 at 11:13 am

So a kid gets picked on by a bully at school and simply retaliates by breaking into his teacher’s locked drawer and stealing their pistol. Sounds like way more risk than benefit. Why not just have more resource officers? BTW the 2nd amendment is an archaic document.

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Original Good Old Boy December 17, 2012 at 1:48 pm

Is the 1st Amendment an “archaic document”?

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 11:30 am

BTW Fits it is NEWTOWN not NEWTON!

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 11:38 am

Jim ,
We have armed forces in airports and on patrol in DC.

In Europe kids do not go to schools and enter through a metal detector.
There is not even s lock done procedure in France, Germany, England I know of.

After schools we would attempt to ” secure ” universities, hospitals and shopping malls?

not give anybody a gun who is not older than 25- that would reduce shooting incidents and help policing.
Want an exception? You can, but explain why you need a gun and dont just tell me “2 nd amendment”.

We have drinking and driving ages ( you could have a learners permit so you can go hunting with daddy) as well as voting ages – apparently we need an age liimitfor gun ownership too. And if you don’t comply, community service and then time….

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Dr. Spock December 16, 2012 at 4:00 pm

Yeah, okay, just keep hiring and arming citizens. Take guns away from citizens, yet convert more productive citizens into legally armed government , I.e. non-productive, employees. So, when a govt worker kills in a rage, what would your solution be?

Air Marshals, school resource officers, Social Security Agents, FDA, Homeland Securityy, shall I continue?

Mental illness is the problem. Media sensationalizing these horrible events for weeks and months breeds the next offender.

Guns are not the problem, wise up.

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 11:44 am

Liberals have provided the “answers” since th hippies and Charles Manson took over our society in the 60s…

When willytou ignorant pieces of $#!* Realize what a F&*kin mess you are…and STFU…

Guns have been available before we were even a country…it’s how pioneers protected themselves from the barbaric savages that roamed the woods of this country before we Civilzed it….

Yet: We are going backward in intelliggence because liberals are so F*#kin Stupid, and the media perpertuates that Stupidity…

We are becoming as Barbaric as we were when the simple-minded ruled this continent…

The civilized better soon TAKE back what we worked so hard to forge…

The animals (liberals) are running amok…and it’s time to fear for your family, because the LEFT hates you for being moral, rational and American…

How much longer must we let the idiots (the left) run the show???

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Sailor December 16, 2012 at 12:04 pm

Big T(urd), you really are one sick fuck!

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BradWarthenSucks December 16, 2012 at 11:45 am

This article makes little different. Sure teachers are getting CWP’s… but the fact is that they still can’t carry on school grounds. If caught, I can guarantee it’d be immediate termination and the end of their teaching career.

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dwb619 December 17, 2012 at 9:15 am

Key word,”If caught”.
And whom will be searching the teachers.
Quite sure more than one judge is “packing” under his robes.

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W Megyese December 18, 2012 at 7:43 pm

At least they might be alive to be able to find an alternate career.

“I’d rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6”

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 12:01 pm

Big T – take your medication and STFU
Manson is in jail, liberals – animals ????
You need to be institutionalized!!

If anybody would hear that a guy called Big T finally lived up to his notoriety we could all go back and look at this verbal diaheria you display here.

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Isotope Soap December 16, 2012 at 12:14 pm

“Guns have been available before we were even a country…it’s how pioneers protected themselves from the barbaric savages that roamed the woods of this country before we Civilzed it….”

“Liberals have waged a War on Families for decades….And the Leftist Femenist movement advocates Hating men..and that contributes to torn families…”

Awesome, Biggie. Genocide and sexism…

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Joe Wilson Is A Very Smart Man December 16, 2012 at 12:16 pm

Yeh FITS I bet there were loads of people hanging around the U S Attorneys office on a Saturday and bunches of FBI agents doing background checks over the weekend!

HAHAHAHA!

Nice made up intro though

People always like getting THE word from “sources”

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 12:30 pm

You idiots believe the Miserable economy is Bush’s fault 4 years later…so I guess he’s going on that…

That said: If some Stupid Radical Leftist, who thinks he has Carte Blanche to kill, because Obama will protect him…He’ll think twice before going to a school w/ the guts to tell the gun control dumb@$$#$ to Cram It…

Wonder if FITS’ kids go to that school…Very Smart on FITS’ part if so…and it shows how much he loves his children…he’ll risk the HATRED of the murder-loving left to protect them…

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ButchSucks December 16, 2012 at 7:43 pm

Joe Wilson is the village idiot.

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 12:17 pm

Article on Drudge: “Obama administration let school security funds lapse”

Can’t wait to see CNN, MSNBC, NYT, CBS and The LAT pick this up and run w/ it…

Can you imagine if Bush did it…This is a MAJOR story…stay tuned…

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Isotope Soap December 16, 2012 at 12:24 pm

Well! I don’t think T needs any more Viagra…

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 12:34 pm

IS: aside from being one of the WEAKEST liberals on here…you are one of THE LEAST Creative…That Global Warming Fiasco F%^&ed you up…

So many of you just try to ride on the Substance I present…

Do you STUPID Son of a B!*c#$ EVER come up w/ something more than the leftwing Cliches and liberal Talking points they put out on TV??

Do you know how lame you look, piggy-backing on my charactarizations of you…w/ no effective defense…???

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Isotope Soap December 16, 2012 at 1:01 pm

Well, noting that everything you say is a polarization of the truth, I’ll take it as a compliment.

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 12:50 pm

Big T’s off medication against :

“stupid radical leftist who has carte blanche from Obama to kill”
“murder loving left”

Wipe the froth off your mouth and go back in your cave you moron

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ssnnaakkee December 17, 2012 at 11:18 pm

DONT WORRY BIG T God loves stupid ppl after all he made so many of you ;)

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 1:03 pm

The Ft. Shooter HAS NOT BEEN prosecuted…

Jared Loughner was NOT executed…and Obama champions 3rd-term infanticide…

Murderers think it’s OK…because liberals make excuses and leftwing attorneys pervert justice, to save them, for money and fame…

Unless you can address the facts…instead of looking like a Feeble-minded parrott dumb@$$…you need to STFU…

You peoples’ ignorant crap is getting old…

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Joe Wilson Is A Very Smart Man December 16, 2012 at 1:15 pm

Why are people on here always on Big Ts case?

I Find him a very typical SC Republican.

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 1:37 pm

Joe” I’m a Conservative who finds more Conservatives in the GOP…But I’m not a Republican…

And: Do you also allow that we’ve tried “typical” democrat answers (like in the economy or gun control in DC and Chicago) over and over…and they always fail…????

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Joe Wilson Is A Very Smart Man December 16, 2012 at 2:03 pm

You’re not a Republican?

Yeh RIIIGHT!!

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Andy December 16, 2012 at 7:44 pm

Joe Wilson is an asshole. Gone in 2014 and Butch Wallace as well. People know he’s a moron.

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Nunyabiz December 16, 2012 at 2:14 pm

Why is there such an outrage regarding the ban of fully automatic assault weapons? YOU CAN’T BUY ONE ANYWAY, at least in SC!! That’s a fact. Only LE and the Military can legally possess these weapons.

I took a Public Safety Citizens Class several years ago with a local LE agency. The Chief of that department asked us pupils if we would like to go shooting on their gun range. Of course, being a CWP holder and one that loves to shoot, my hand went up first.

When we arrived at the range, the Chief had several guns to shoot. One was a fully automatic MP3 rifle. I begged to shoot it!! He set it on 3-round bursts (it went up to 5). I fired and met center mass on the target. It was the sweetest rifle I have ever shot. He told me I was very good with it, and allowed me to fire at the target at will! I said, “Wow! I want one for Christmas!” He replied, “And I’d have to arrest you.” He then proceeded to school me on the law regarding automatic vs. semi-automatic weapons. I didn’t tell him that I already knew the law and was just kidding! Since he let me shoot his automatic rifle (which I will probably never have the opportunity to do again), I let him talk.

If the federal government bans fully automatic weapons, the only people that will be affected by that is police officers and members of the Military, who are the very people that are TAUGHT how to use those weapons in the line of duty.

So, what sense does it make to ban fully automatic weapons, other than our LE and Military will no longer be on the same playing field as criminals who STEAL these weapons or obtain them from the black market?

That’s right, it makes NO sense whatsoever.

As far as teachers and other educators arming themselves, I see NO problem with it whatsoever. Just taking a CWP class, does not train you to fire your personal weapon. They must have hours upon hours of range time before they will be fully comfortable carrying. We have three grandchildren, ages 6, 5 and 2. I carry every day, all day. They have absolutely NO CLUE that I carry, nor have they EVER seen a weapon in our house. I’m not about to provide them with the curiousity.

Someone mentioned that a child could get it out of a teacher’s purse. Leaving a personal weapon in a purse is absolutely the most STUPID thing a woman can do. First of all, by the time you need it, you have to dig for it and it could be too late. Secondly, a purse can be stolen (or dug through by someone else) – and there goes the weapon only to be used in another crime. Thirdly, the BEST place for a concealed weapon is ON YOUR PERSON!! If a teacher carries their weapon completely concealed on their person (as it should be), then students will not have access to it.

(off soap box now)

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dwb619 December 17, 2012 at 9:20 am

You can own an automatic if you the ATF background check and pay the $750 per year tax on it. Papers come with each weapon,including a beautiful full color picture of you on the front. The Fed’s also check up on you regularly. When they knock on your door with their copy of your federal license, you better be ready to show them the weapon,RIGHT THEN!

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 3:04 pm

Banning full automatic assault rifles for the general public will not prevent LE and military to have them – nonsense!

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 3:09 pm

I have 30 years experience using fire arms and the only place I want to be when a CWP holder pulls his weapon is far far far way.
We cannot turn fire men, teachers, university professors, cashiers into a private security army – the number of accidents and erroneous shooting would sky rocket.
Only solution :
Hunting and sports weapons for trained users
Pistols ie glock etc ok but no assault rifles – you don’t need a friction bushmaster !!!btw the same weapon the DC sniper used.

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bogart December 16, 2012 at 4:09 pm

You’re tooooo sane…..you’ll have to translate that for all of these John Wayne wannabees who think a gun on their hip makes them invisable.Mrs Lanza had a houseful of guns for protection,guess they’ll have to be buried with her.

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Booyah December 16, 2012 at 3:40 pm

We need to lock up the seriously mentally ill like during the good old days of sanitariums instead of pretending mental illness is meaningfully treatable.

Take them out of circulation where they can be forcibly medicated and live out their worthless lives until they die.

It should be MUCH easier to take crazies off the street permanently. Prison isn’t the place for them. Sanitariums are. There is no cure, treatment other than stunning them into docility with drugs is pointless, so don’t play games pretending otherwise.

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Tammy December 16, 2012 at 7:49 pm

Speaking of worthless, must be thinking of Joe Wilson. Agree with Andy that we need leadership now more than ever and morons like Joe Wilson need to be voted out in 2014.

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SparkleCity December 16, 2012 at 3:46 pm

The answer to this situation can be found in the Sci-Fi flick “Gattaca”

Random DNA checkpoints and apendage scanners in public buildings which prevent anyone who is not “right in the head” (or to quote the line in “Cool Hand Luke” – “got their mind right”) to enter or from having weapons or posessing anything remotely resembling a weapon let alone being a threat to anyone.

The rejects will live in a sub-culture where any potential threat is marginalized much like the homeless of today………

Then you can have all the guns you want.

And it will all be administered and handled by private corporations just like in “Gattaca”

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junior justice December 16, 2012 at 3:52 pm

“appendage scanners and not right in the head” – I hope you are not referencing my penis.

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 4:21 pm

Ban LIBERALISM…and you’ll see most of the ROT, Decay and Immorality evaporate…

Liberals will Get out in the Streets and March for some of the Nasitiest, Raunchiest and vile of behaviors…but when their Filth Bites America in the @$$…These sorry Pieces of $#!* act clueless…

STFU about Gun Control…Banning guns from law-abiders just empowers Criminals…

Work on cleaning up the Cesspool the Left has rendered America…and you may have something….

But you’re way too stupid and lazy to figure that out…

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dwb619 December 17, 2012 at 9:22 am

Ban liberalism. Isn’t that what Hitler did?
YOU BIG FUCKING IDIOT!
YOU BETCHA!
YOU BETCHA!

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9" December 16, 2012 at 4:36 pm

Carrying a gun increases your risk of being shot and killed with one,usually your own.

This sort of thing doesn’t happen very often in other countries,but reading Fits’ piece,and most of the comments,explains why it does…

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 4:48 pm

Hey you Fu*k!n leftwing Idiots…There is something called a US Constitution..

Google it and READ it…It guarantees the right of Citizens to hold weapons because of ignorant fools like you and Obama…

I know Obama said he hates the Constitution..but that dumb son of a B!t*h has sworn to UPHOLD it….

Try to violate it, and every citizen has the RIGHT to blow your NAZI head off…

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Fleet December 16, 2012 at 4:49 pm

Here’s a simple answer. Have a SRO (School Resource Officer)in every school. Spend the damn money. This way you have a trained person to answer the threat and the know how of how to contact other officers with the necessary information needed to quickly end the threat. We already have them in high schools and middle schools.

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 4:57 pm

Obama cut funding for school safety (probably used the money to pay off rich contributors)…There’s an article on Drudge about it…

That said: Quit making society so nasty…and cling to the good things, instead of promoting FILTH, as Obama and the liberals do…

Liberals have ruled America since Charles Manson…and it just becomes more Dangerous, espcially w/ anti-law abiding democrats in office…

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Breck Girl December 16, 2012 at 5:13 pm

Lather, rinse, repeat…

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Fleet December 16, 2012 at 5:09 pm

And our esteemed Secretary of Education turned down millions of Federal dollars earmarked for schools and our esteemed Governor told him to do so. Liberals have ruled the US since Manson? Even when Republicans held the presidency and both houses of congress?

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Breck Girl December 16, 2012 at 5:15 pm

He’s off his meds, Fleet.

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 5:18 pm

A hatred of Law Enforcement, More and More abortion, attacks on traditional familes, Anti-Americanism, hatred of white men, hate from the takers toward the earners, blacks bitter toward whites…

You can claim the GOP has been in power all you want, but the media runs this country…and children die and good people suffer because of the leftist corrupt, more and more each day..

And you evil, leftwing son of a B!*ches just laugh, as long as you can bully Christians, berate the contrutors and keep smoking dope and tearing down morals…

You are what you are…why do you ALWAYS flee from what you so proudly represent, when it is point out????…

Why be a Coward to your Filth???

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King-Tut December 16, 2012 at 5:16 pm

With the proper training and background check, let the teachers carry a handgun. History shows these terrorists commit suicide when law enforcement gets on scene. They are pussy’s not wanting to shoot at someone who can shoot back. The teachers can buy time for the cops. I’ll take that over letting them just sit there and hope they don’t get shot. Take a chance with your child not mine liberal assholes!

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dwb619 December 17, 2012 at 9:23 am

DITTO!

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interested December 17, 2012 at 9:47 am

YOU BETCHA!
YOU BETCHA!

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Fleet December 16, 2012 at 5:24 pm

BigT, how can I have a hatred of law enforcement when I said we need them in every school? You sir, really are freaking crazy. Have a nice delusional day.

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BigT December 16, 2012 at 6:10 pm

Clean up the country…Oppose the FILTH that Hillary and Barack introduce into the Villiage…

You can arm every lawful citizen to the hilt (and we should as a last resort)…

But when you have an Immoral Government, that perpetuates HATRED and Bitternesss just so they can live as Elities over the Ignorant…you’ll have Murder and Mayhem…

Your idea is just as Stupid as claiming that guns, not immoral fools, are the problem…

Ypo may not be a liberal, but you’re as big a mis-guided Dumb@$$ as they are…

The wages of sin are death…and we have been a Sinful, immoral nation…and it’s killing our society…

Just look at who we just re-elected as president…

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Fleet December 16, 2012 at 6:12 pm

Meow meow meow meow. Ever hear that between your ears BigT?

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Mike Hammer December 16, 2012 at 6:32 pm

The girl in the photo is definitely a BABE and not a “broad”. I would like to have her as the heroine in my next adventure with this photo on the book cover. The sales would be tremendous and I could finally retire.

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Lennie December 16, 2012 at 6:44 pm

tragedies like this are the sad but unavoidable cost of freedom to bear arms

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 7:21 pm

Lennie you almost beat big T with that kind of crap.
Charge your brain and not your gun for once…

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PD December 16, 2012 at 7:26 pm

Criminals don’t care about gun laws. Period.

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 7:47 pm

And you getting a gun is not going to change that. Instead getting more guns – even legally – raises the likliehood of them been misused. Mom’s glock, Sig and Bushmaster were legal and crazy junior got his hands on them…

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 7:51 pm

And we are not even talking accidents here during cleaning or kiddie-poo picking them up or 12 year olds bring stupid!

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Tt December 16, 2012 at 7:57 pm

Hey big T:

Filthy, murder-loving, socialistic, femi- nazi, homosexual, hate the constitution, fetus-murderers, Manson-lovers, Barak HUSSEIN Obama cool aid drinking liberal scum, family-culture-border, ….

Are you aroused yet?

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SparkleCity December 16, 2012 at 11:03 pm

I’m telling y’all….

Use the movie “Gattaca” as a model……

1. No notice DNA testing like DWI checkpoints and weed out those who “ain’t got their minds right”

2. Same for ALL public building entrances be they federally,state or local funded. Access is denied if the DNA scan is cross linked to the individual’s DNA profile and that individual has been registered to be harmful to society (listeners to talk radio will be given priority to pass freely if they have registered with the TEA party and have their DNA cataloged in their data bank).

3. All individuals who fail access to all portals will be regulated to menial jobs and spend the rest of their lives paying restitution to the state by way of “Get your Shit Right, Inc.”
Part of the proceeds pay for upkeep of the data bank and the remainder for private security and subsidizing automatic weapons for the populace in order to maintain the safety of the masses. If the individual cannot function in the present system they will be painlessly & instantly dispatched by a nuclear powered incinerator at at temperature of 2000 degrees centigrade. The individuals will be randomly selected by a computer generated lottery and viewed on pay-per-view in real time HD quality video. The fees generated from this pay-per view will be rotated back to “Get Your Shit Right,Inc. to fund future broadcasts and administration of the individuals who were not selected for the present lottery. It is expected that this revolving fund will be self-sufficient within 1 year from start of production……….

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SparkleCity December 16, 2012 at 11:29 pm

Remember:

Tuesday is Soylent Green day!!!

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Dawn December 17, 2012 at 1:29 am

If armed people don’t get killed, why do so many cops die in the line of duty of gun fire? 2 died in Topeka Saturday night. And chances are a teacher packing heat will more likely be dead before they can reach for their gun.

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Voice of Reason December 17, 2012 at 11:14 am

This nut wanted to go out in a blaze of evil – had there been armed and trained security at the school, this still could have happened. If you want to blame something other than the evildoer, blame a public school and health care system that could let a seriously derranged kid fall through the slats without anyone really attending to his mental health needs – the same responsibility falls on his poor family – people like this leave clues.

As much as I hate to say it, President Obama was right – this is a complicated problem – there are no easy answers – but we can’t let that push us into thinking that events like this are inevitable or unpreventable. We can do better.

Maybe the shock and outrage over this senseless horror will force us to value human lives more and protect kids better than we do. That has been in my prayers since Friday.

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Ashley December 17, 2012 at 2:44 pm

Interesting listening about “the gun problem”:

http://thestory.org/archive/20121217_The_Story__Gun_Violence.mp3/view

The Story (National Public Radio) With Dick Gordon: http://thestory.org

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Gun Violence

Dick explores the details of Baltimore’s successful “gun registry” with Frederick H. Bealfield, retired commissioner of the Baltimore Police department.

The initiative brought down the numbers of murders in signifgant ways, without increasing the number of arrests.

Bealfield says much of the success came from old-fashioned police-work, and knocking on doors.

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shifty henry December 17, 2012 at 3:48 pm

….. just came across the linked article discussing the CA teachers investing in Bushmaster – I read the entire article – it is unusually informative –

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/12/17/the-money-behind-the-massacre/?hpt=hp_t2

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ssnnaakkee December 17, 2012 at 11:12 pm

Did you know…..• A 1997 high school shooting in Pearl, Miss., was halted by the school’s vice principal after he retrieved the Colt .45 he kept in his truck.
• A 1998 middle school shooting ended when a man living next door heard gunfire and apprehended the shooter with his shotgun.
• A 2002 terrorist attack at an Israeli school was quickly stopped by an armed teacher and a school guard.
• A 2002 law school shooting in Grundy, Va., came to an abrupt conclusion when students carrying firearms confronted the shooter.
• A 2007 mall shooting in Ogden, Utah, ended when an armed off-duty police officer intervened.
• A 2009 workplace shooting in Houston, Texas, was halted by two coworkers who carried concealed handguns.
• A 2012 church shooting in Aurora, Colo., was stopped by a member of the congregation carrying a gun.
• At the recent mall shooting in Portland, Ore., the gunman took his own life minutes after being confronted by a shopper carrying a concealed weapon. 2500 times last year alone legal gun owners stopped violent crime when confronted with it long before any police assistance …

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Gun owner December 18, 2012 at 11:09 pm

Well isn’t this brilliant?! Publish the schools that probably have loaded guns in some cars!
I’m all for them protecting themselves, but REALLY?! You publish the school name?!

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Frank Pytel December 20, 2012 at 6:30 am

Well well well. I suspect there will be a story on this one soon. Now legislators are going to give teachers the right to concealed carry on campus. Another step towards the police state.

Please don’t misunderstand me. I think everyone, EVERYONE, over the age of 16ish should be required to open carry at all times. No business or gubmint angency should be allowed to prevent you from having a firearm at your side at all times.

The criminals don’t give a rats patoot about whether its legal or illegal. The police are not about preventing crime, though its nice when they do. The purpose of the police is to, plain and simply, arrest those that have committed crimes. So what does any of this have to do with the first paragraph?

It won’t be long before teachers, really one of the few gubmint departments left without them, are given arrest powers. Don’t like teachers teaching your 10 year olds how to use a condom and practice safe sex. Tough Nawnnies. Your under arrest. Don’t like little johnnie or jane reading some book. STFU before I blow your head off!!

Have a Great Day!! :) There won’t be many left with the Republicrats and the Demlicans in charge.

Frank Pytel

PS The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting and good sportsmanship. Its all about being able to fight back against corrupt legislators and other gubmint types.

Of course, my pitchfork stock isn’t falling through the floor now is it?

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