The Gay Wedding Cake Case Advances

COURT RULES CHRISTIAN BAKER MUST MAKE “GAY CAKE” || By FITSNEWS || The Colorado Court of Appeals has ruled that a bakery in suburban Denver must bake wedding cakes for gay couples … even if it violates the owner’s religious convictions. The ruling upheld a December 2013 verdict against the…


|| By FITSNEWS || The Colorado Court of Appeals has ruled that a bakery in suburban Denver must bake wedding cakes for gay couples … even if it violates the owner’s religious convictions.

The ruling upheld a December 2013 verdict against the baker – Jack Phillips – who refused to bake a cake for gay couple David Mullins and Charlie Craig, who were married in Massachusetts but moved to Colorado.

According to that ruling, Phillips violated a Colorado statute banning discrimination at “public accommodations” based on sexual orientation.

Mullins and Craig claimed that Phillips’ refusal left them “mortified and dehumanized.”

Sheesh …

We wrote on this case back in 2013, referring to it as “ridiculous.”  And it is.

“Phillips is absolutely within his right not to bake a cake for Mullins and Craig,” we wrote.  “It’s the job of the marketplace to hold him accountable for decisions like that, not the job of government.”

More recently, we’ve written on the debate over dueling liberties in America – and where to draw the line between religious freedom and a legitimate case of discrimination involving essential services.

Obviously government should never discriminate in performing any of its prescribed functions (just as it should never ban or sanction any form of marriage – gay, straight or plural), but what about the private sector?

We believe circumstantial discernment must be applied – i.e. a fair weighing of the competing liberties.

Here’s an excerpt from our post back in April …

Obviously a hospital emergency room isn’t the same as a florist … just as a dentist’s office is different that a restaurant.  Heating and air repairmen aren’t the same as utilities which power their machines.  And attorneys and used car salesman are … okay, there are some similarities there, we’ll grant you.

Bottom line? Each transaction has to be assessed based on the competing rights at stake – which puts added pressure on our judiciary to be fairer (i.e. blinder) than ever.

In the case of a wedding cake, we would humbly submit the baker’s right not to provide the cake trumps the right of the couple to force him to bake it.

Again, such discrimination on the part of the baker is – in our opinion – sanctimonious and wrong, but that doesn’t mean it should be illegal.  Tolerance – like discrimination – is a two-way street.


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Tazmaniac August 13, 2015 at 5:34 pm

Yet Muslim cabbies won’t carry liquor and cashiers won’t ring up pork products. Even though I’m Agnostic, I can clearly see discrimination is only OK against Christians.

Mike at the Beach August 13, 2015 at 5:50 pm

Oh, yeah?! You try tearing up a picture of the Pope on national television, or throwing a crucifix in a jar of pee and see how fast your ass is dragged into court (or blown up) by angry, mainstream Christian weirdos. Um, wait a minute…

Mike at the Beach August 13, 2015 at 8:08 pm

Ha! Predictably, you go straight to the Klan reference! It’s like Godwin’s Law, only less original.

9" August 13, 2015 at 10:33 pm
9" August 13, 2015 at 10:40 pm

You mentioned,Piss Christ by Andre Serrano
The green KKKer is another Serrano work
Jesus,Once you kids get a degree,you forget all about education

Mike at the Beach August 14, 2015 at 12:42 am

I did make the Piss Christ reference and I am generally familiar with Serrano’s work, I just don’t think it’s that great. I wasn’t offended by the whole Piss Christ flap; my only point was that picking on Christians and their culture, iconography, etc. is okie dokie. A Klan ref is a Klan ref. I do like being called a “kid,” though. You must *really* old… ;-)

Speak D Truth August 13, 2015 at 7:21 pm

Next up, Christian Book stores will be required to sell porn.

Rocky Verdad August 13, 2015 at 7:47 pm

Porn bookstores are a thing of the past. They use the internet.

9" August 13, 2015 at 8:02 pm

I should send you my copy of the Bible,with the *good parts* underlined.
Can you say,Noah?

Biblical Knowledge August 14, 2015 at 8:04 am

Like that one guy who was hung like a horse and had huge money shots.

9" August 16, 2015 at 8:44 am

Upvote.I thought that was 100 Years Of Solitude,where the prostitutes paid the big stud

Bible Thumper August 13, 2015 at 5:42 pm

Buy a regular wedding cake. Remove the bride. Replace with another groom. Case closed.

If our founding fathers only knew that our courts would eventually be clogged with such trivial cases. I imagine it will go to SCOTUS. Nine of the brightest minds in our nation sitting in the highest court in the land discussing cakes and thousands of bakers awaiting their decision.

One Step Too Many August 14, 2015 at 8:06 am

“Remove the bride.”

Most cakes don’t even come with that stuff. Most people just buy the cake and the topper separately anymore.

My question is, why can’t the baker just sell them a regular wedding cake and let that be that?

Sad little christian boy August 13, 2015 at 5:47 pm

Poor christians. Maybe one day they can find a way to be represented in government. Until then it’s persecution city. *shiffles*

9" August 13, 2015 at 6:02 pm

Christians lead such burdensome lives.Pray for them.


9" August 13, 2015 at 5:53 pm

Riveting news.In a perfect world,ALL weddings would be illegal.


CorruptionInColumbia August 13, 2015 at 6:14 pm

That was certainly, … different.

9" August 13, 2015 at 6:23 pm

Yeah.I’ve been best man at three weddings(straight),and will do anything to get out of going.There was one where I did the wedding rehearsal,and rehearsal reception.The heavy appetizers were good,and were the only reason to follow through with the real wedding.Italians.What can I say?

CorruptionInColumbia August 14, 2015 at 1:07 am

I was talking about the video but yes, I agree about avoiding weddings! I’ve been the primary victim in three, already. Not in a hurry to repeat that mistake and I hate to watch friends commit that mistake.

9" August 14, 2015 at 11:17 am

There’s a lot to be said for bachelorhood…

Free Food August 14, 2015 at 8:14 am

I never turn down going to a wedding if I know the food is going to rock.

shifty henry August 13, 2015 at 7:14 pm

A guy with five penises walks into a doctor’s office. Curious, the doctor asks him how his pants fit. “Like a glove,” he answered.

shifty henry August 13, 2015 at 7:15 pm

A duck is buying a package of condoms. The clerk asks, “Cash or charge?”

The duck says, “Just charge it to my account, please.”

The following week the duck is back to purchase another pack
of condoms. The clerk asks, “Want me to put them on your bill?”

The duck replies, “No thanks – I’m not that kind of duck.”

shifty henry August 13, 2015 at 7:17 pm

Dissatisfied with the results he got from his family doctor, the balding man sought out alternative treatment for his hair loss. A friend referred him to a scientist who had been testing a chemical that showed great promise. Within a week after taking the recommended dosage, hair began to grow uncontrollably all over his body. The suddenly hirsute fellow returned to see the scientist.

“What the hell did you give me?” he demanded.

“It was DNA from a woolly mammoth.”

“Aha,” the hairy man exclaimed. “That would explain the size
of my balls!”

Speak D Truth August 13, 2015 at 7:20 pm

This bakery is forced to make a wedding cake for a gay couple even though it violates their beliefs. Yet, Wal-Mart can refuse to make a Confederate Flag cake because it violates their beliefs. How can one be wrong and the other be right?

shifty henry August 13, 2015 at 7:21 pm

100 +

9" August 13, 2015 at 10:24 pm

Your erudition knows no boundaries…


Equality August 14, 2015 at 7:47 am

The baker doesn’t have to bake an erotic cake, but he does have to be open to the general public, including gay people.

Walmart doesn’t have to sell confederate flags, but they do have to be open to the general public, including sons of confederate veterans.

You fucking lying idiot August 14, 2015 at 7:54 am

So if the baker emblazons (in icing) a MAN and a WOMAN on the cake, your will STFU?

Derp Derp August 14, 2015 at 8:02 am

If they ask for that on their cake, sure. If not, no.

All the baker has to do is make reasonable accommodations. All a homophobic baker has to do is make a simple wedding cake they would normally sell to a regular straight couple. All a racist baker has to do is make a simple wedding cake they would normally sell to a white couple. This really is not difficult. If they are open to the public, they must serve the public equally.

If the only wedding cake a baker made had a man and woman in icing, they would not be in business long because most straight couples wouldn’t even want that on their cake.

9" August 14, 2015 at 11:09 am

What if the bakery had refused to bake a cake for a straight black couple?

Speak D Truth August 14, 2015 at 11:25 am

In today’s world they would face public scrutiny and be put out of business by a community that refused to business with racists. I don’t think the government has a right to force a private business to anything. They also don’t have the right to force a private business to do business with anyone. How does the government justify allowing a private business to deny a CWP holder his Constitutional Right to bear arms at their business by saying that the business owner has the right to limit activity on their property and refuse admission or service to people that are armed but then say they do not have the same rights when doing business with a homosexual couple. The gay couples right to a “pursuit of happiness” should not be allowed to infringe upon the business owners ‘freedom of religion.”

9" August 14, 2015 at 1:39 pm

Gays are at their,Rosa Parks’ stage.True equality will take a long,long time.Your answer is correct and makes that case.


Speak D Truth August 14, 2015 at 1:43 pm

There are legitimate religious issues with the refusal to accept homosexuality. Homosexuality is a either a choice or a taught practice from a young age. Race is not a choice. To force someone to alter their religious beliefs to accommodate someone’s choice of lifestyle in their pursuit of happiness is unconstitutional.

9" August 14, 2015 at 2:28 pm

So,you could have chosen to be gay? Sure.Life isn’t hard enough.I need a real challenge.I’ll choose ‘gay’.
Sexuality is NOT a choice.

Speak D Truth August 14, 2015 at 2:32 pm

Then why do 45 year old men with 3 kids get caught having gay sex? in the mapping of the genome and DNA structures where is the “gene” that makes them gay?

shifty henry August 13, 2015 at 7:20 pm

After the football game a guy, after a night of heavy drinking, woke up to find two rings around his penis – one orange, the other brown. He rushed to the emergency room where, after examining this oddity, the doctor says, “There’s good news and bad news. The good news is that the orange ring is lipstick. The bad news is that the brown ring is Skoal.”

tomstickler August 13, 2015 at 7:21 pm

The real story FitsNews is not covering is the Federal Court ruling that AG Wilson has to pay the legal fees of the same-sex couple who sued to get a marriage license.


CorruptionInColumbia August 14, 2015 at 12:40 am

Yep! Unfortunately, I bet “he”doesn’t pay for his little fuckup.
“We” probably get to do that.

You ignorant fucking lemming August 14, 2015 at 7:47 am

Obama has taken SC to court and lost repeatedly. It cost us millions, not only in legal fees, but lost time and jobs.

Will you demand he pay the legal fees for that, you ignorant piece of media-led shit?

DipshitTango August 14, 2015 at 8:13 am

Please list the cases where Obama took SC to court, provide links as well.

Rocky Verdad August 14, 2015 at 8:15 am

Might as well go fishing, ain’t gonna get those links and case histories anytime soon.

Ignorance "FITS" you well August 14, 2015 at 9:01 am

Typical. Pleading IGNORANCE as your excuse. (: Why am i not surprised. And actually, it works for you. Very well. (:

Cram it up your ass August 14, 2015 at 7:45 am

Will you pay legal fees for you and Obama’s war on free work laws in SC by the NLRB or your attempt to try to keep the vote corrupt in SC? You got your ass kicked in court, and cost us millions just for the freedom to work and vote ethically.

You filthy piece of shit. It should work both ways you NAZI Liberal Asshole.

Daniel Boome August 13, 2015 at 7:26 pm

Indentured serv

shifty henry August 13, 2015 at 7:32 pm

(Vicki Shaw) – “I told my kids, ‘Look, you guys, if someone comes up to you at school and says, “Is your mom gay?” Look them square in the face and go, “Why? Does your mom want to date her?””

Daniel Boome August 13, 2015 at 7:36 pm

Indentured servitude, the13th amendment, is what we are up against. No baker can legally refuse their services because someone is gay nor can they refuse to sell a pre-made cake on the basis that it MAY be used for this or that specific occasion/purpose. They absolutely cannot, however, be forced to make a cake (or anything else) that hasn’t already been made if they do not want to participate in whatever occasion it will be used for. That is the 13th amendment indentured servitude violation. The reason for not being forced into indentured servitude is irrelevant. Religion is the bogeyman in all of this, but it’s irrelevant. There is no “dual liberties” conversation to be had here.

Rocky Verdad August 13, 2015 at 7:48 pm

Why not just serve – cupcakes.

SYNTwist August 13, 2015 at 9:22 pm

IF I were gay, I would not spend a dime on some company who did not want to serve me. I’d make my own cake.

Speak D Truth August 13, 2015 at 9:42 pm

Or go to places that refuse to serve gays and sue the hell out of them for refusing to serve you. That way you get a free wedding, nice compensation, and become the darling of all of the liberals that want to destroy and pervert what little is left of the Constitution.

Equal Treatment August 14, 2015 at 8:12 am

Don’t blame this on liberals, the only reason equality movements exist is because you guys made minorities fight for their freedom, their right to vote, and their right to eat in restaurants with whitey.

It’s like blaming workers for unions coming into existence while ignoring the unethical companies that created a need for them in the first place. Once you open Pandora’s Box it don’t close.

Speak D Truth August 14, 2015 at 9:30 am

Then Wal-Mart should be required to sell Confederate Flag cakes. If forcing someone to violate their religious beliefs is OK then forcing Wal-Mart to violate their own political correctness should be OK.

STFU you ignorant A-Hole August 14, 2015 at 7:43 am

But you’re an ignorant Fucking liberal, and you want to FORCE your unhealthy, decadent, destructive lifestyle on others who are disgusted by you, and your unholy religion of liberalism and HATE.

Don’t be timid about what you are are. You are an intolerant, bully piece of shit, trying to pass as an open-minded American citizen.

Telling Moments August 14, 2015 at 8:09 am

“and you want to FORCE your unhealthy, decadent, destructive lifestyle on
others who are disgusted by you, and your unholy religion”

This is how those deranged atheists feel about Christians.

FITNews Pack of Liberal drones August 14, 2015 at 8:54 am

You’re just used to a one-sided argument, droned into the ignorant and easily led. When you see original, truly open-minded thought, you shit all over yourselves.

Rocky Verdad August 14, 2015 at 8:14 am

Eating cake us an unhealthy lifestyle?

Unhealthy Lifestyles August 14, 2015 at 8:15 am

Most would consider GrandTango sitting here all day posting his hate filled rants is an unhealthy lifestyle, but it’s his right to live however he wants.

Misguided Homosexuals August 14, 2015 at 8:52 am

Hating me has not cured one case of AIDS, or protected one child from a Homosexual pedophile, you mean bastard.

NAZI Homosexual Storm Troopers August 14, 2015 at 7:40 am

Liberalism is a religion, and always has been one, that about FORCING your will and your Lifestyle on the people who build this country.

You’re LIARS about who, and what, you are. And you ALWAYS have been.

Marketplace Malfunction August 14, 2015 at 7:44 am

People who say the marketplace should dole out punishments for unethical decisions have no fucking clue what they are talking about. Businesses make unethical decisions every single day, namely because it earns them more money. Just because the market fails to punish bad decisions or fails to reward good decisions does not change whether those decisions were good or bad.

The market has no soul, much like politicians ethics only counts when the public catches you with your pants down. As long as nobody sees your hairy… legs, it doesn’t matter who you’re fucking.

Enforcing YOUR "Morals" August 14, 2015 at 7:52 am

The problem is you only want to ENfORCE your “Morals” in relation to your unholy Commandments forced on us by Liberals, and the liberal church.

You are not against unethical business practices, as long as you can legislate your sin, and punish those who violate the filthy dogma of the leftwing temple, and your nasty corrupt gods.

Unethical Commenters August 14, 2015 at 7:53 am

Here comes GrandTango the fake Christian to lecture me on unethical practices when all he can do is hurl nasty language and insults at everyone. You are a poor excuse for a Christian if I ever did see one.

Not very literate, RU? August 14, 2015 at 8:50 am

Read the most above his, you ignorant Fuck. That where ETHICS was brought up, you unintelligent DNC Drone.

R U Kidding August 19, 2015 at 1:08 am

You pay now!! No?? Ah, yes! No? Ah, yes, Wan make a special Won Ton Soup fo you!!

Are you kidding me? You are going to FORCE someone to bake you a cake when there are 99 other bakers in town who would probably love to bake your sorry *&^ a cake? Are you kidding me?

Are those crunchy little nuggets chocolate sprinkles or rat feces?


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