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Activists Take Down Confederate Flag

BANNER BRIEFLY REMOVED FROM S.C. STATE HOUSE GROUNDS || By FITSNEWS || Not waiting for legislative action, protesters removed the Confederate flag from the north lawn of the S.C. State House early Saturday morning. The controversial banner was quickly returned to its place by two state employees (both of whom were…

BANNER BRIEFLY REMOVED FROM S.C. STATE HOUSE GROUNDS

|| By FITSNEWS || Not waiting for legislative action, protesters removed the Confederate flag from the north lawn of the S.C. State House early Saturday morning.

The controversial banner was quickly returned to its place by two state employees (both of whom were black, ironically), but not before several images of an empty flagpole were snapped …

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flag down

(Pic via Ferguson Action)

The group Ferguson Action claimed responsibility for removing the banner – hailing a “group effort” of local activists. Specifically, the organization credited a North Carolina “freedom fighter” named Bree Newsome with climbing the pole and removing the flag.

Newsome and one other activist were arrested by officers of the S.C. Bureau of Protective Services (SCBPS) following the incident.  The charge?  Defacing a monument.

“Bree wanted to ensure that white racists had no flag to worship at their rally today,” the group said in a tweet.  “The State of SC disagreed.”

Supporters of the flag are holding a rally on the S.C. State House grounds at 11:00 a.m. EDT.

RELATED: “HATE, NOT HERITAGE”

South Carolina lawmakers appear likely to take the controversial banner down early next month in response to last week’s horrific, racially motivated shooting in Charleston, S.C. – which left nine black South Carolinians dead.

We support that effort.  And have counseled in favor of removing the flag sooner rather than later.

Having said that, we don’t condone Newsome’s stunt.  In fact our guess is it will do more harm than good to the broader effort to take the flag down legitimately.

In fact consider this excerpt from The (Columbia, S.C.) State newspaper’s coverage of the incident …

Witnesses said the incident might hurt efforts to remove the flag permanently from the State House grounds.

“I’m glad to see it down,’’ said Willie Hampton, an African-American who said he saw the flag being removed. “But now, this is going to bring a bunch of riff raff about the flag.’’

Hampton said “the Sons of Confederate Veterans is already angry.’’

Ya think?

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(Pics via Ferguson Action)

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313 comments

Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 8:34 am

“The flag is a rag
The Bible’s a book
Mother’s a hag
And God is a crook” — South Pacific

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 9:40 am

You’ve got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You’ve got to be taught
From year to year,
It’s got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You’ve got to be carefully taught.

You’ve got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff’rent shade,
You’ve got to be carefully taught.

You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You’ve got to be carefully taught!

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 9:53 am

The Hymn of Homeschooling

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col.sanders June 27, 2015 at 9:59 am

Reverend Jerimiah Wright Sunday school class.

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 10:04 am

Every Southern Baptist church for a century and more.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 10:06 am

Surely racism ended on this day in 1995
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Resolution On Racial Reconciliation On The 150th Anniversary Of The Southern Baptist Convention

Atlanta, Georgia – 1995

WHEREAS, Since its founding in 1845, the Southern Baptist Convention has been an effective instrument of God in missions, evangelism, and social ministry; and

WHEREAS, The Scriptures teach that Eve is the mother of all living (Genesis 3:20), and that God shows no partiality, but in every nation whoever fears him and works righteousness is accepted by him (Acts 10:34-35), and that God has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on the face of the earth (Acts 17:26); and

WHEREAS, Our relationship to African-Americans has been hindered from the beginning by the role that slavery played in the formation of the Southern Baptist Convention; and

WHEREAS, Many of our Southern Baptist forbears defended the right to own slaves, and either participated in, supported, or acquiesced in the particularly inhumane nature of American slavery; and

WHEREAS, In later years Southern Baptists failed, in many cases, to support, and in some cases opposed, legitimate initiatives to secure the civil rights of African-Americans; and

WHEREAS, Racism has led to discrimination, oppression, injustice, and violence, both in the Civil War and throughout the history of our nation; and

WHEREAS, Racism has divided the body of Christ and Southern Baptists in particular, and separated us from our African-American brothers and sisters; and

WHEREAS, Many of our congregations have intentionally and/or unintentionally excluded African-Americans from worship, membership, and leadership; and

WHEREAS, Racism profoundly distorts our understanding of Christian morality, leading some Southern Baptists to believe that racial prejudice and discrimination are compatible with the Gospel; and

WHEREAS, Jesus performed the ministry of reconciliation to restore sinners to a right relationship with the Heavenly Father, and to establish right relations among all human beings, especially within the family of faith.

Therefore, be it RESOLVED, That we, the messengers to the Sesquicentennial meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention, assembled in Atlanta, Georgia, June 20-22, 1995, unwaveringly denounce racism, in all its forms, as deplorable sin; and

Be it further RESOLVED, That we affirm the Bibles teaching that every human life is sacred, and is of equal and immeasurable worth, made in Gods image, regardless of race or ethnicity (Genesis 1:27), and that, with respect to salvation through Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female, for (we) are all one in Christ Jesus (Galatians 3:28); and

Be it further RESOLVED, That we lament and repudiate historic acts of evil such as slavery from which we continue to reap a bitter harvest, and we recognize that the racism which yet plagues our culture today is inextricably tied to the past; and

Be it further RESOLVED, That we apologize to all African-Americans for condoning and/or perpetuating individual and systemic racism in our lifetime; and we genuinely repent of racism of which we have been guilty, whether consciously (Psalm 19:13) or unconsciously (Leviticus 4:27); and

Be it further RESOLVED, That we ask forgiveness from our African-American brothers and sisters, acknowledging that our own healing is at stake; and

Be it further RESOLVED, That we hereby commit ourselves to eradicate racism in all its forms from Southern Baptist life and ministry; and

Be it further RESOLVED, That we commit ourselves to be doers of the Word (James 1:22) by pursuing racial reconciliation in all our relationships, especially with our brothers and sisters in Christ (1 John 2:6), to the end that our light would so shine before others, that they may see (our) good works and glorify (our) Father in heaven (Matthew 5:16); and

Be it finally RESOLVED, That we pledge our commitment to the Great Commission task of making disciples of all people (Matthew 28:19), confessing that in the church God is calling together one people from every tribe and nation (Revelation 5:9), and proclaiming that the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ is the only certain and sufficient ground upon which redeemed persons will stand together in restored family union as joint-heirs with Christ (Romans 8:17).

Lakip's Bag of Coke June 27, 2015 at 10:43 am

kinda like mission accomplished? Or hope and change? Or (insert your favorite leader’s stated goal)?

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 11:01 am

Were the baptists racist, like they said?
I don’t know if they were or not – I don’t know what was in their minds and hearts, you’ll have to ask them.

oops, misunderstood the question…

of course they were racist!

…but *that* begs the question that if they apologized in 1995, where did all that racism *go*?

Is it like a bit-bucket, where all the used bits go?

Lakip's Bag of Coke June 27, 2015 at 11:52 am

“begs the question that if they apologized in 1995, where did all that racism *go*?”

I answered your question. The racism has been defeated. The proof is sitting right next to the “mission accomplished” banner…or next to our Hope and Change trophy. We only decided to fly the flag in the 1960’s as a sign of love.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 12:07 pm

The racism has been defeated.
——–
so… this is what it feels like.. I wonder, when we defeat terrorism, if it will feel like this.

Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 8:35 am

FREE BREE!!

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guest June 27, 2015 at 8:38 am

She was black.Figures.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein June 27, 2015 at 9:47 am

FREE BREE!!

For a moment there, you almost had TBG.

Thought you said “FREE BEER!!”

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 9:49 am

From guestpetunia it would have been “Free Brie.”

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 1:47 pm

…more like freebie.

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Rocky June 27, 2015 at 8:37 am

Wasn’t bout the flag.I wanted to get married on top of a big pole.I felt gay.

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Prenuptial Agreement Police June 27, 2015 at 10:51 am

Did you marry the pole?

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tomstickler June 27, 2015 at 8:48 am

Might have known that a new thread would be started while I was typing on another, but…

Props to the pole-climber, but the flag was quickly replaced. Now to see how the government prosecutes this.

Section 10-11-315.
It is unlawful for a person to willfully and maliciously deface, vandalize, damage,
or destroy or attempt to deface, vandalize, damage, or destroy any monument,
flag, flag support, memorial, fence, or structure located on the capitol grounds and a person convicted of a violation of this section shall be punished pursuant to the provisions of Section 10-11-360.

SECTION 10-11-360. Penalties.
A person who violates the provisions of this article is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than five thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. . . .

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guest June 27, 2015 at 9:00 am

That’s right.’Props’ to the lawbreaker.The very definition of the Democrat Party and liberals.

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tomstickler June 27, 2015 at 9:35 am

Progress in some areas of human relations comes only via civil disobedience.

Orangeburg lunch counters in 1960 come to mind.

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guest June 27, 2015 at 9:38 am

Hilarious.You are not interested in progressing human relations. YOU and the band of merry/ferry perverts and racist thugs you support are only interested in eliminating free speech and religious freedoms.

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Civil Disobedience June 27, 2015 at 9:54 am

Oh shit! They’re on to us! Call 1960 and tell them not to bother, our 55 year master plan is unraveling!!

Dick Nixon June 27, 2015 at 10:00 am

You can say that again!

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Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 10:04 am

So, what’s the ruling if the law no longer exists when the activists come in for their trial date?

Seriously though, props to them for finding a non-violent symbolic protest that is going to get national coverage. It hurt no one, it got their message across… they even treated the flag with respect as the brought it down, not letting it touch the ground. I see this as an ideal display of civil disobedience.

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 11:51 am

The charges stand, the violation was committed while there was a law in place.

They broke the law by entering the fenced area and removed the flag. It doesn’t matter if they were singing Dixie while doing so. They still broke the law, now they get to take responsibility for their actions… which will likely be a first for some of them.

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Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 12:14 pm

I was actually asking for someone to answer who might know something, not the wishful thinking legal fantasies of a paranoid white supremacist, but I am appreciative of your reply. Cheers!

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 12:37 pm

So what you’re thinking is along the lines of if drugs are make legal, all the people in prison on drug charges will be let out and their criminal records erased.

Ignore me, see if you get the answer you want from someone else… but I wouldn’t get your hopes up.

I would have laughed if the police would have tasered the bitch as she was hanging from the poll. Don’t trust anyone who smears shit in their hair as a fashion statement.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 1:46 pm

poopy head!

Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 10:19 am

“willfully and maliciously deface, vandalize, damage,
or destroy or attempt to deface, vandalize, damage, or destroy any monument, flag, flag support, memorial, fence, or structure located on the capitol grounds”

How does lowering a flag violate any of that?

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tomstickler June 27, 2015 at 10:31 am

That’s what will make any prosecution (or lack thereof) interesting.

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Fran Leftist June 27, 2015 at 10:43 am

If you walk onto my private property, climb my flag pole and remove my American flag-what happens to you when you return to the ground?

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 11:49 am

I’d assume it would involve bleeding.

CorruptionInColumbia June 27, 2015 at 12:20 pm

Only if wearing “period” clothing (sanitary napkin belt) with no fresh napkins available.

Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 11:48 am

And the ones who were spray painting the other monuments will say they were just applying UV protection to the granite.

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SPF 50 June 27, 2015 at 11:52 am

Hope and Change! Hooray

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TontoBubbaGoldstein June 27, 2015 at 12:14 pm

TBG wants a ‘Murrican flag for the 4th of July BBQ.

Maybe TBG will just take the one off of the US Capitol.

You ok with that, SSFH?

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CNSYD June 27, 2015 at 12:15 pm

Get one of the ones Farrakhan wants taken down.

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 11:46 am

Wouldn’t it be awesome if these people who think of themselves as taking the law into their own hands were handed sentences of $5000 fines and 3 years in prison? That may take a little candy out of their asses.

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Dan Ruck June 27, 2015 at 9:04 am

S.C. Bureau of Protective Services? What’s that?

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 9:18 am

It used to be called the Capitol Complex Police (or something similar). Security for state buildings and grounds, except for Dept. of Mental Health (which has its own) and prisons obviously.

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 9:31 am

A fully owned subsidiary of Gun Waddlers

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guest June 27, 2015 at 9:35 am

I am gonna use the confederate flag as my avatar.What you gonna do about it ya racist pussy?

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 9:37 am

Just continue to laugh at your whining impotence as a serial loser.

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tomstickler June 27, 2015 at 9:38 am

When are you going to get a Disqus account, coward?

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guest June 27, 2015 at 9:42 am

Why is it a badge of honor to have Disquis account?Your avatar is cartoonish and makes you the fool.

tomstickler June 27, 2015 at 9:51 am

Only a fool plans to use the confederate flag as an avatar without a Disqus account.

shifty henry June 27, 2015 at 9:59 am

I like his avatar, and if “tomstickler” is just his moniker then I like his humor…

guest June 27, 2015 at 10:05 am

I do too.Notice how he leans left on the bike. All in fun.

shifty henry June 27, 2015 at 11:44 am

that’s why he is clever — and you figured him out!

CNSYD June 27, 2015 at 11:38 am

Is Disqus a NSA run entity?. Do you know for sure? Sic Willie would sell you for a few pieces of silver or even just some clicks.

Flip is mental June 27, 2015 at 3:33 pm

Laugh at your petty crybaby ass as your goddess Haley signs the bill to have it taken down.

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Comrade1917 June 27, 2015 at 9:14 am

The state of Lower Massachusetts, formerly know as occupied South Carolina, will receive social justice, comrades:
1. All Confederate banners and war relics are to be seized and destroyed.
2. All Confederate monuments are to be destroyed.
3. All Confederate graves to be removed and remains dumped at sea.
By order of –
The Supreme Council of Soviets

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 9:33 am

When the Russians dug up Hitler’s remains not that long ago I believe they just dumped them in a river, though the first reports said a sewer.

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Comrade1917 June 27, 2015 at 10:05 am

Schwuler?

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 10:29 am

He had only one testicle, it’s said, but I doubt gay.

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Comrade1917 June 27, 2015 at 10:56 pm

You know squishy quite well.

Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 8:46 pm

That’s what they want you to believe… and they said Bin Laden was buried at sea too.

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EndlessWarGOP June 27, 2015 at 9:15 am

So, Haley and the Assholes put it back up. Stand up again, we’er happy to smack you down again.

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well-i-am into it June 27, 2015 at 9:40 am

The empty pole should be left as a reminder of how far we have come. A testament to how deep faith in Christ and undying love for God’s ways can surely overcome centuries of injustice. What a moment in history for us as a country. America and Americans are truly great, whites and blacks alike ! May God bless this great nation to be the brightest light to the world. There is so much more to do for us, but the people of faith have spoken and have shown us the path forward. I am a proud old man for my people.

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guest June 27, 2015 at 9:44 am

American Flag is next for the socialist Democratic Party.They will use the courts to have it removed from public grounds.

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Victorious Secret June 27, 2015 at 9:47 am

Extrapolate much?

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guest June 27, 2015 at 9:49 am

WASHINGTON — Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan wants more than just the Confederate flag pulled down; he wants the American flag pulled down, too.

Farrakhan made the comments Wednesday at the Metropolitan AME Church in Washington, D.C.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/national/louis-farrakhan-we-need-put-american-flag-down/nmknZ/

AME church? Hmmm….

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Victorious Secret June 27, 2015 at 9:54 am

Haha….Louis Farrakhan. Riiiight.

He’s a complete radical nut-job of little import. The average black takes what he says with a grain of salt. He’s looking to do nothing more than to (1) stir the pot and (2) raise more funds from his few radical followers.

Oh, and the media is happy to stir the pot and sell more advertisements because fools (such as yourself) actually buy into the fear-mongering.

Perhaps we should heed the words of David Koresh? Or maybe we should be on the lookout for Hale-Bopp?

guest June 27, 2015 at 10:03 am

No difference to radical leftists…confederate flag/American flag…they are BOTH symbols of oppression to these folks…

Louis Farrakhan: ‘We Need to Put the American Flag Down …

http://www.theblaze.com/…/louis-farrakhan-we-need-to-put-the-amer...

TheBlaze2 days ago – “White folks march with you because they don’t want you upset in the city,” … We need to put the American flag down because we’ve caught as much ….Army Responds to Atheist Activist’s Prayer Complaint: ‘Graduates Are …

Activist removes Confederate flag at S.C. Capitol – USA Today

http://www.usatoday.com/story/…flag…activist…/29383973/

USA Today50 mins ago – The activist group also posted video of the woman, wearing a helmet and climbing gear, bringing the flag down as police and security await her …

Dem Flies Communist Flag at State Capitol Until Patriots …

insider.foxnews.com/…/democrat-flies-communist-china-flag-washingto…

Apr 6, 2015 – Tea Party Activists Watch As Chinese Flag Is Lowered at Wash. … If youwant to be a true Americian, then show some respect to our ….. Army tears down the Washington fat cats and brings to America the workers’ Paradise.

Inside the battle over the Confederate flag – CNNPolitics.com

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/21/…/south-carolina-confederate-flag-debat...

CNN5 days ago – Debates over displaying the Confederate battle flag are as familiar here as grits and sweet tea. … the flag, local activists and some elected officials are pressing for its … The South Carolina and American flags flying at half-staff behind the … The same poll reported that 61% of blacks want it taken down.

Louis Farrakhan calls for American flag to come down: ‘Who …

http://www.washingtontimes.com/…/louis-farrakhan-cal...

The Washington Times2 days ago – We need to put the American flag down because we’ve caught as …that liberal activists would call for the American flag to be taken down, The …

Students, activists remove US flag from Hawaii campuses

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6128

Dec 9, 2014 – WATCH: Activists remove the American flag … We’re wanting [sic] just education and truth and that’s what we as students are standing for…” …. Don’t be taking down the US Flag, take down the CRIMINALS who are corrupting …

Flag made of firehoses sparks dispute in Portsmouth …

hamptonroads.com › Home › News › Local GovernmentMar 12, 2015 – Sheriff Bill Watson wanted it to hang in a courthouse hallway, but the city’s four circuit judges put a stop to it … “To say he can’t put up an American flag is just blowing everyone away,” Cherry said … We did not ask him to take down a flag…… Morrison and his wife are part of the same activist that now burden …

South Carolina governor calls for Confederate flag’s removal

news.yahoo.com/activists-urge-south-carolina-capitol-down-r…

Yahoo! News5 days ago – Calls for Confederate flag to come down after Charleston church shooting … The Heavy class is your go-to choice if you want to plow your way through the …”The only flag we should be worried about is the U.S. flag,” said Carl …

Sheriff Ordered To Remove American Flag From Courthouse

conservativebyte.com/…/sheriff-ordered-to-remove-american-flag-from-…

Mar 12, 2015 – “I just can’t believe that they don’t want to display the American flag in a ….. To hell with the communist “activist” judge who desires to tear down …

Confederate flag must come down, South Carolina activists …

http://www.al.com/…/confederate_flag_must_come_dow….

The Huntsville Times5 days ago – Confederate flag must come down, South Carolina activists declare …Storm Roof burning one American flag and stepping on another, while waving ….Georgetown Professor Condemns Father’s Day, Wants It Replaced With …

well-i-am into it June 27, 2015 at 9:50 am

There is no power on earth that can cause that to happen, unless we are conquered by another nation. Of that I am certain in this country of ours that our people will never let that come to pass.

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guest June 27, 2015 at 9:57 am

No.The American people would NEVER elect an American hating socialist as pResident or let unrestricted immigration and perversion of traditional marriage ‘come to pass’. They would also never allow the federal government to mandate healthcare and who your doctor will be.

Never. :)

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Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 10:08 am

You know none of that has actually happened, right?

1. Obama is not socialist (did you hear about the Trade deal he just championed?)

2. Immigration is still restricted.

3. Homosexuality is not a “perversion” and traditional marriage has been a joke since the 70s anyway if you look at divorce rates.

4. Healthcare is not “mandated”… You can pay the fine.

You are wrong on all of that, and probably just about every other thing you pick up from whatever bullshit mountain website you’re getting your info from. Enjoy living in a world of hate, the rest of us are going to try to love one another. We’ll love you, too…

guest June 27, 2015 at 10:16 am

1.Okay…he is a MARXIST!Daddy was a marxist,trained by marxixt professors at university and Rev.Wright.
2.Immigration is ONLY restricted because of an injunction in federal court.
3.adam and eve-floodgates now open to for state controlled schools to destroy another generation of children
4.Government blackmailing citizens with threats of fines and imprisonment if fines not paid. IRS collects this money.

Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 10:24 am

Again, all of that is factually wrong. You are living in a haze of partisan bullshit. Quit being a sheeple, and come into the light, my friend. We welcome you with love and acceptance.

Guest June 27, 2015 at 10:32 am

And you forgot to mention that ABORTION is also still legal in the US and approximately 1,060,000 were performed in the most recent reported year. Did you know that you can hear the heartbeat of a child in the womb as early as 6 to 7 weeks and I am sure that a large percentage of these abortions were performed after this time frame.

We have Obama getting up and singing Amazing Grace which my great-grandfather sang until he passed away at 98, but at least he was not being a hypocrite about being a Christian. It is amazing how many politicians claim to be a Christians yet support abortions and gay marriage (and please do not take this statement as saying that I support gays being persecuted or singled out – quite frankly, the gay crowd are some of the best folks you will ever meet).

If the good folks that were killed by that kid in Charleston were truly Christians, I can tell you that they never supported abortions or gay marriage in a sense of being recognized by the church.

So if you have ever had a kid or are about ready to have a kid, just remember the first time you hear that heartbeat of your kid in the womb and remember a lot of folks (and a good block of politicians) ignore this heartbeat

Fran Leftist June 27, 2015 at 10:37 am

Well done.

Old Bigoted Freak Flip June 27, 2015 at 3:29 pm

Man, you bigots have lost and lost and lost, and all those times getting your ass handed to you, you still don’t give up in your narrow minded hatefulness.

You guys will die off eventually. Future generations will look at you and feel the shame we feel today when looking at our history of slavery.

The Buzzman June 27, 2015 at 10:57 am

That won’t happen, even if it’s tried. You are a foaming-at-the-mouth ideology-poisoned maniac, pogo.

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Veterinarian June 27, 2015 at 3:31 pm

When dogs get rabies we put them down. When people get rabies we give them a keyboard to troll in FITS as pogo.

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Fuck Flip, What A Dick June 27, 2015 at 3:26 pm

Fuck off troll.

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randysmugglesgerbals June 27, 2015 at 9:15 pm

really, well fuckin hurry up and die .marse robert will be a waitin and rally fer ol virginia. fuckin douche

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Victorious Secret June 27, 2015 at 9:43 am

Anyone else surprised this didn’t happen sooner? Hell, I figured this would happen, any moment, since last Friday.

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well-i-am into it June 27, 2015 at 10:09 am

Like you, I expected this to happen too at any moment since the tragic event. At a historic moment like this, some people try to find ways to claim a mention in the history books. Similar things will likely happen across the country. But the bravest and the most gracious among us have already won that victory in God’s name (the Emmanuel 9). I do not support such acts, especially when the American public overwhelmingly supports removal of such symbols. These are not any acts of bravery for sure.

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The Buzzman June 27, 2015 at 10:55 am

Exactly.

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Loud Shriek from Heaven June 27, 2015 at 10:18 am

This makes absolutely no sense

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 10:21 am

I post for a higher clientele.

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Loud Shriek from Heaven June 27, 2015 at 10:24 am

Clearly, I am dumb…might you be a good lad and help me by clarifying what these are?

“pikers in the monuments”

“monsters business anyways”

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 10:27 am

Relatively small, comparatively two-bit

Tillman, for example.

Louder Shriek from Heaven June 27, 2015 at 10:37 am

Wonderful, and one final question.

What does Stone Mountain come close to? Is it close to a piker in the monument? Or a monsters business?

By the way, you must do the Sunday crosswords, no?

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 10:50 am

His parents forced him to read as punishment for experimenting with explosives.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 10:00 am

Play that music for me and my sweet
All dark people is light on their feet
And just the same as flowers get honey
All God’s chillun got buck and wings
Pale-face babies don’t dance in the street
All dark people are light on their feet
(“All Dark People” by Rodgers and Hart, from Babes in Arts, 1937)

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Victorious Secret June 27, 2015 at 10:02 am

..?

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 10:03 am

Reminiscing….

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Victorious Secret June 27, 2015 at 10:04 am

You must be much older than I originally thought

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 10:12 am

poetic license.

shifty henry June 27, 2015 at 10:02 am

Helmets are designed to protect the brain — didn’t know that a cockroach has a brain……

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Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 10:10 am

Is “cockroach” the new word since you can’t use the N-word in public?

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Quietus June 27, 2015 at 10:13 am

Around here cockroach is usually reserved for politicians, but in her case there isn’t much difference. If you walk the walk and talk the talk then you too can be a cockroach. She just set her own cause back.

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Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 10:19 am

Maybe. I doubt this will have any effect on the debate/removal, other than keeping the issue in the national news in the wake of the SCOTUS rulings, and that will only help her cause, not hurt it. As long as the national eye is upon this, then the momentum to take it down will continue. Calling someone a cockroach for a peaceful civil disobedience demonstration is a little out there, in my opinion. You wouldn’t call the Boston Tea Party participants cockroaches… but then again they were white, just pretending to be a hated minority to deflect blame.

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erneba June 27, 2015 at 12:50 pm

The flag coming down is “fait accompli” for all practical purposes. And most people I know, and myself, are fine with the fact that it is destined to only be viewed in the future from the confines of a museum.
This kind of “showboating” does not help either side. Her activities would probably be more helpful in places like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc, where the black culture is disintegrating into heaps of lawlessness and dependency.
Also, trying to compare taking this flag off the flagpole in no way is similar the Boston Tea Party.

Bibi June 27, 2015 at 10:53 am

bullshit!

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Mike at the Beach June 27, 2015 at 10:41 am

Aaaaaaahhh…”coded language” everywhere, huh? Weak. Sometimes a word is just a word, you know.

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erneba June 27, 2015 at 11:10 am

Typical of people who just can’t let go and must keep the controversy , distrust, and unrest going.
If you told some of these people the flag was coming down on Wednesday, they would still call you a “racist” because you are not taking it down on Tuesday.

There have been people on this blog denounced as “racist” when they agreed the flag must come down, but they just did not do it using the appropriate language and conviction.

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Elfego June 27, 2015 at 10:47 am

“Thug” is the new word. It belongs right there with their favorite words of “F” and “N”.

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 11:45 am

or DAN.

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 11:44 am

Both seem to be prolific nuisances.

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shifty henry June 27, 2015 at 11:58 am

A cockroach is still a cockroach, and a piss-ant is still a piss-ant.

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Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 12:11 pm

You seem to be both.

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shifty henry June 27, 2015 at 1:39 pm

Let’s hope that you make it “Older Hippy” ….

erneba June 27, 2015 at 12:13 pm

Invoking the “piss-ant,” nice call, and well-deserved.
Do you have an unlimited number of “piss-ant” calls or once you are granted the privileged, you get an unlimited usage license?

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shifty henry June 27, 2015 at 1:37 pm

It evokes the essence of the creature under discussion. It’s also easy to spell.

Buddy Miles June 27, 2015 at 10:03 am

In a written statement, Ferguson Action states, “We’re going to remove the George Jefferson monument ’cause he owned slaves”.

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guest June 27, 2015 at 10:07 am

Yep.After the confederate flags and symbols are confiscated and removed they will move onto confiscating and removing the American flag from public sites and view.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 10:13 am

Where is it located? I would like to visit it.
http://genius.com/1201397

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Book em Danno June 27, 2015 at 10:11 am

So far look like the charge is vandalism. The should charge her under the heritage act and ask for the maximum sentence 3 years and $5,000.

Alan Wilson are you reading this?

http://i.imgur.com/zDjGRqS.png

SECTION 10-11-360. Penalties.
A person who violates the provisions of this article is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than five thousand dollars or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

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Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 10:14 am

The Heritage Act will be gone by the time she is sentenced. Waste of time. Give her PTI and let it go in peace.

Alan Wilson are you reading this?

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Book em Danno June 27, 2015 at 10:18 am

The Heritage Act will still be in place. Only one section is being debated and that’s if the flag should be on the grounds. Make an example of her, defacing monuments will not be tolerated. Three years and five-thousand dollars. Put her on interstate trash pick-up detail for the entire thirty-six months.

Alan Wilson are you reading this?

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Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 10:22 am

ACTUALLY… The word I hear from downtown is the debate will be about repealing the whole kit and kaboodle, We shall see….

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 10:26 am

I say we hold her down and straighten her hair, and coif it into a quasi-steel helmet, and make her wear North Eastern Establishment attire to her court appearance.

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Too Bad Confederistas June 27, 2015 at 11:11 am

Yeah good luck finding a jury that will convict her.

But I’m sure that great legal mind,Alan Wilson,(hahaha) has thought of that.

Will never go to trial.

She pleads a to a minor misdemeanor for a suspended sentence.

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bobx@bobcat.com June 27, 2015 at 10:25 am

Here, here, Bree!!

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TankMcNamara June 27, 2015 at 10:29 am

Disclaimer: I don’t care if the confederate flag stays or goes on the State House grounds. Now, having said that, the anti-flag people need to be real careful with their actions. They are closer now than they have ever been to getting the flag removed. This incident, the current acts of vandalism against monuments, and the movement to erase any references to the confederacy are only going to inflame and anger the pro-flag people more than they already are and may hinder the movement to get the flag down. Also, i wouldn’t be surprised if there are retaliatory acts against monuments honoring blacks. Its going to get worse before it gets better. I hope I’m wrong.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 10:32 am

There are some people who relish conflict and don’t want to resolve any issue.

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tomstickler June 27, 2015 at 10:33 am

Yes, people must tread very carefully so as not to rile their oppressors!

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Fran Leftist June 27, 2015 at 10:36 am

We are tired of treading carefully so as not to offend you American hating socialists that are destroying EVERY historical and cultural institution in this country.

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tomstickler June 27, 2015 at 10:47 am

This sentiment is more consistent with your original avatar, not the one you are using now.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 10:46 am

Progress is frictionless.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 10:48 am

Conflict is necessary, but not an end in itself.

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 10:53 am

Those kinds of considerations would only serve to eliminate “independent news sources”… and the blotchy bigots who staff it.

“We stimulate the conflict, you collide.”

Elfego June 27, 2015 at 1:15 pm

We only have one real Independent News Source left in America.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 1:23 pm
Toyota Kawaski June 29, 2015 at 8:56 am

Hope the progress on the moving operation back to Ohio is going smooth.

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Bibi June 27, 2015 at 10:47 am

True… like the traitors who succeeded from the U.S. Those soldiers from the South should have been executed from a firing squad of the newly freed Africans.

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CNSYD June 27, 2015 at 11:31 am

succeeded?
which Southern soldiers should have been shot by newly freed Africans? all of them or just those who owned slaves? What about the slaveholders in non Southern states and territories, e.g. Mo., Kansas, Maryland, DC, etc.?

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Bibi June 27, 2015 at 11:42 am

All that actively participated in their unjust cause, sparring only women & children. The South murdered all Africans captured that were supporting the effort to liberate them & many of the white northern soldiers.

CNSYD June 27, 2015 at 11:44 am

So the cause of slavery in non Southern states was just? Please cite sources for your murder allegation. My source for slave locations is the 1860 US census.

Bibi June 27, 2015 at 12:10 pm

Andersonville prison – 13,000 Union soldiers murdered; Capt. Henry Wirz its commander was tried & hanged for war crimes.

CNSYD June 27, 2015 at 12:14 pm

That’s it? These were the “Africans” you spoke of? Where there any US prison camps for captured Confederates? Did any prisoners die while in captivity?

Bibi June 27, 2015 at 12:17 pm

Saltville – Champ Fergusson, he & his confederates invaded a Union hospital & beheaded & stabbed to death over 2 dozen Black soldiers of the 5th Colored Cavalry.

Elfego June 27, 2015 at 1:18 pm

Sherman’s and his soldiers raped and murdered women and children all through South Carolina.

CNSYD June 27, 2015 at 1:28 pm

Saltville is a matter very much in dispute. Some historians do not even think it occurred at all. There seems to be agreement that if anything happened it involved 5 “colored troops”. The perpetrators, if it occurred, appear to have been non uniformed “locals”. I did not find reference to “beheading”. What is your source?

Slartibartfast June 28, 2015 at 5:20 pm

I think “Bibi” is the size of his brain. At least the size of his reference library.

Comrade1917 June 29, 2015 at 10:16 am

Elmira Prison Camp … no war crime?

Elfego June 27, 2015 at 1:17 pm

Most folks do not realize a Black Man who owned Slaves was the first person to bring a suit in court to return his slaves who escaped. History has a way of being manipulated.

Elfego June 27, 2015 at 1:16 pm

Bring it on, I will stand for one of the Southern Soldiers that lived through it. Bring your ass on Punk!

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Fran Leftist June 27, 2015 at 10:38 am

Great opinion.

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Elfego June 27, 2015 at 1:14 pm

I do not think you are wrong. It doesn’t matter what the Legislature does you have a bunch of radicals that are supported by George Soros that are out to destroy America and for the most part the so called Black Leadership in America is Communist inspired and want revenge not peace and understanding. Just like the young folks in wars in the past they were used by the so called leaders. I predict America will have a terrible confrontation that will bring in Government Troup’s. I do not see how we can not.

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Jack June 29, 2015 at 12:38 am

You are an idiot. The sooner you old racist nuts fade into oblivion the better the rest of us will be. You are just like Roof. You want the same thing he did. But the rest of us wil not indulge your race war fantasies. Go hang out with your Klan buddies

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Claire Kingston June 27, 2015 at 7:00 pm

I agree with you Tank. While I want to see that flag down ASAP, I don’t think stunts like this help the cause at all. Fanning the flames of contention is just going to make undecided legislators more likely to pander to the worst elements of their constituency. Sad, but this is SC.

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 10:43 am

We are powerful enough to destroy the earth with war, and possibly, now, pollution… but it wouldn’t be a group effort – a deliberate focused attempt.

If we *were* to focus our collective energies on destroying the Earth, would man be able to do it? How long would it take? Would we use a gas, combined with atomic weapons?

How about the sun?

What technology would we have to master to fuck up the sun?

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Hallelujah June 27, 2015 at 10:44 am

Just pray for it Max!

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 10:58 am

Can we?
Is it possible?
Can we?
Can we?

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Bibi June 27, 2015 at 10:44 am

One brave soul. Much luv , Bree.

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Elfego June 27, 2015 at 10:46 am

If they work this hard at bettering themselves our whole nation would benefit. But it has to be all about them and being recognized for worthless crap!

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 10:57 am

I know, right? If only they weren’t so focused on the flag, they might have better education, jobs and roads!

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Bibi June 27, 2015 at 11:05 am

max euwe, was a world chess champion, not a world class fool.

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 11:13 am

Yes he was. And he granted Alekhine a rematch, proving he was a gentleman as well. To contrast the two, Alekhine would not give Capablanca a rematch, but avoided him like a disease.

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Bibi June 27, 2015 at 11:37 am

True.. 1. Fischer, 2. Capablanca, 3. Alekhine… some have opined that Alekhine was assassinated by roving bans of Jews in post WWII Europe.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 11:46 am

…roving bans of Jews?

CorruptionInColumbia June 27, 2015 at 12:52 pm

They played backup for James Taylor when he was on concert tour.

:-)

CNSYD June 27, 2015 at 1:35 pm

I thought it was Simon and Garfunkel.

CorruptionInColumbia June 27, 2015 at 3:50 pm

Them too!

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 11:52 am

Who is the best?

We can’t answer Magnus Carlsen—not yet. His future is still ahead of him. We also can’t answer Paul Morphy—in his day no one else was very good, and he got through everyone like a hot knife through butter. I present to you five options:

Player A scored 77 percent with white and 69 percent with black. Won the World Championship.

Player B scored 67 percent with white and 68 percent with black. Won the World Championship.

Player C scored 80 percent with white and 64 percent with black. Won the World Championship.

Player D scored 72 percent with white and 63 percent with black. Won the World Championship.

Player E scored 72 percent with white and 56 percent with black. Won the World Championship.

You’d agree Player A and Player C jump out at you as the best, right?

Player B is José Raúl Capablanca, Player D is Mikhail Botvinnik, and Player E is Anatoly Karpov.

Player A and Player C? You probably guessed it. Bobby Fischer is Player A, and Garry Kasparov is Player C.

Bibi June 27, 2015 at 11:00 am

Genocide against the true indigenous people of Turtle Island, enslavement of Africans, genocide against the people of Korea, Vietnam, Japan, Irag, Afghanistan, Iran etc. are just a few of the high crimes that white folks & jews must be held accountable in this life or the next one.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 11:06 am

Jews? Really! You have a lot in common with the KKK. You should consider joining forces.

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CNSYD June 27, 2015 at 11:26 am

Yes those white people forced all those Japs onto the Bataan death march. You sow the wind (at Pearl Harbor), you reap the whirlwind.

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shifty henry June 27, 2015 at 11:46 am

— the GrandTurnip has returned to us, and she is busy.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein June 27, 2015 at 12:19 pm

that white folks & jews must be held accountable in this life or the next one.

*blinks*

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TontoBubbaGoldstein June 27, 2015 at 12:24 pm

*Some other things white folks and jews are responsible for:

Euclidean geometry. Parabolic geometry. Hyperbolic geometry. Projective geometry. Differential geometry. Calculus: Limits, continuity, differentiation, integration. Physical chemistry. Organic chemistry. Biochemistry. Classical mechanics. The indeterminacy principle. The wave equation. The Parthenon. The Anabasis. Air conditioning. Number theory. Romanesque architecture. Gothic architecture. Information theory. Entropy. Enthalpy. Every symphony ever written. Pierre Auguste Renoir. The twelve-tone scale. The mathematics behind it, twelfth root of two and all that. S-p hybrid bonding orbitals. The Bohr-Sommerfeld atom. The purine-pyrimidine structure of the DNA ladder. Single-sideband radio. All other radio. Dentistry. The internal-combustion engine. Turbojets. Turbofans. Doppler beam-sharpening. Penicillin. Airplanes. Surgery. The mammogram. The Pill. The condom. Polio vaccine. The integrated circuit. The computer. Football. Computational fluid dynamics. Tensors. The Constitution. Euripides, Sophocles, Aristophanes, Aeschylus, Homer, Hesiod. Glass. Rubber. Nylon. Roads. Buildings. Elvis. Acetylcholinesterase inhibitors. (OK, that’s nerve gas, and maybe we didn’t really need it.) Silicone. The automobile. Really weird stuff, like clathrates, Buckyballs, and rotaxanes. The Bible. Bug spray. Diffie-Hellman, public-key cryptography, and RSA.

*h/t to Fred Reed

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Bibi June 27, 2015 at 1:11 pm

All, instruments of oppression; born of the necessity to survive.

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CNSYD June 27, 2015 at 1:33 pm

Damn TBD, you are going to force Bibi to answer the Joe Pyne question.

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 1:36 pm

You missed internet porn and LSD.

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 2:25 pm

And Zyklon B and mustard gas and industrialized genocidal murder.

And Green Acres and Tiny Tim.

TontoBubbaGoldstein June 27, 2015 at 10:14 pm

@euwe & SSfH

TBG never said it was a comprehensive list.

euwe max June 28, 2015 at 1:16 am

I know, but I felt that they were glaring omissions.

Centrist View June 27, 2015 at 3:18 pm

Euclid was Greek, not Jewish.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein June 27, 2015 at 10:08 pm

*whites and/or jews…

Happy now?

Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 12:23 pm

“Bettering themselves”….

Tell you what, why don’t the bigots like you go first. You better yourself and quit acting like it’s 1962 and I have a feeling “they” will stop annoying you with their disgust over your racist symbolism. Then we’ll see what happens.The ball is in your court.

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Elfego June 27, 2015 at 1:21 pm

Old Hippy,
I was raised dirt poor on a Mill Hill owned by Yankee Carpet baggers. I am over 75 and know what being dirt poor is like.If I am a bigot you are a Son of A Bitch.

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 1:30 pm

Sounds like you’ve met his mother.

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 1:35 pm

Yankee Carpet baggers
———-
Republicans, eh? Tough break.

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Been ReadingYour Posts June 27, 2015 at 2:10 pm

I dont know about him being a son of a bitch,but you are a bigot.

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Elfego June 27, 2015 at 2:13 pm

The same applies to you as what I said to him.

Jack June 29, 2015 at 12:47 am

Old Hippy I’d say that makes you a son of a bitch. Not always a bad thing! Sometimes we need SOBs. We have no need for bigots however.

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60yrOldWhiteGuy June 27, 2015 at 10:47 am

If more South Carolinians understood the Mechanics of Basic Logic, and Fallacy, the SpokesHeads for the SCV would have Nothing To Say! … But, this is the home of the Corridor Of Shame.

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ClassOf77 June 27, 2015 at 11:02 am

Hey, USC Philosophy Department, looking for soething to do? … Still searching for meaning in life?…

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The Buzzman June 27, 2015 at 10:50 am

It was a stupid stunt that was not helpful in any way, in my opinion.

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Quietus June 27, 2015 at 11:05 am

Agreed, but the perps got what they wanted. Attention!! Twitter is treating her like she’s the second coming of Rosa Parks and Harriet Tubman all wrapped up in one. She is neither.

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 11:17 am

Perception is reality.

Ask Kim Kardashian, she’ll tell you.

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Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 12:10 pm

Umm… the goal of civil disobedience is attention. As far as that goes, this was a complete success. At least she didn’t threaten to do something ridiculous like set herself on fire.

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35TWW June 27, 2015 at 11:24 am

This conduct is not calculated to solve anything. It’s designed to “organize a community.” Which is another term for fomenting a riot. The last thing these people want to see is for our State to take the flag down on its own terms. We are well on our way toward doing that, so they have to make trouble in an effort to disrupt things.

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 11:30 am

It’s not as if escalating the conflict will give them an excuse to start illegal settlements on the Capitol grounds to deny them access to the flag pole… and then move in armed units to defend the settlements, followed by more conflict, and more settlements, until they control the entire Capitol with tanks and fighter jets.

How about we relax a little? Maybe we could think of it like stealing the other team’s mascot? How about that? Yeah, that’s the ticket!

They got your goat!

Besides… they got their precious war flag back, didn’t they?

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randysmugglesgerbals June 27, 2015 at 8:49 pm

holy jesus christ how much does fits pay you to spout off this gungagalunga ..

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 9:44 pm

Not enough, I can tell you that!

What a thankless job. I’d rather delouse Republicans with a wire brush than do this another day.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 11:35 am

About thirty flag supporters have shown up for their rally with flags etcetera. .. plenty of pics and video at link. More nuts like Bree…
http://ban.jo/News/US-Canada/20150627/Confederate-Flag-Rally-At-SC-State-House-Columbia/?_banjo_noredirect

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 11:38 am

30?

Hey! Great excuse to get another assault rifle… that new camo M16 with the night vision scope you’ve had your eye on. This time, because of the state of emergency, you can get one of those slick conversion kits for it.

Timmy’s new crutches will just have to wait a little longer.

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 11:53 am

A .22LR rifle with a suppressor works better. Use a bolt action rifle and it’s Hollywood quiet.

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 12:02 pm

Most neighborhoods in Anytown, USA, will be very similar in that 200 yards will be about as far as we can reasonably expect to shoot.

The official primary weapon for the Republican sniper is a bolt-action rifle chambered in .300 Blackout. With suppressor, of course.

The .300 Blackout cartridge has about the same overall length as a .223 and works in the same magazine. It is a small cartridge, but it’s more than capable of reaching out to 200 yards for head shots on Republicans. The .300 Blackout cartridge also has the added benefit of being commercially available in either subsonic or supersonic loadings.

The difference between subsonic and supersonic bullets is that subsonic bullets travel slower than the speed of sound, or less than 1,050 fps. When fired through a rifle that has a suppressor, bullets traveling at subsonic speeds have a negligible signature and are almost impossible to detect. This makes the Republican sniper armed with this setup extremely effective.

Bullets traveling faster than 1,050 fps break the sound barrier and give off a mini sonic boom as they pass through the air. It’s still difficult to locate a sniper shooting a suppressed rifle even if the bullets are supersonic, but when we go to subsonic there is no sonic boom, and therefore nothing for the Republicans to home in on. The .300 Blackout has no equal for the Republican Apocalypse.

Some Republican enthusiasts will claim that a rifle chambered in .22 LR would be a better choice because it can also be subsonic, and it is much smaller, so we could carry more rounds. Nonsense. Our servicemen returning from overseas can recount numerous cases where bullets fired from their government-issued rifles (that are much more powerful) glanced off the human skull. A .22 LR bullet travels at a slower speed and weighs less, so the risk of the bullet glancing off the skull increases, especially as we increase the distance to the target. A .22 LR might be a good choice if you want to stick it in a Republican’s ear, but I would prefer never to get that close.

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 12:50 pm

Look, someone knows how to use Google and knows jack shit about supressors.

.300 Blackout with a suppressor, will sound still sound like a big fucking gun going off. All the suppressor will do is not blow the shooter’s ears out when he pulls the trigger.

.300 Blackout – Go to around 1:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff9JbtkzxOU

.22LR bolt action supressed – Go to around 3:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwN8FJMOy6s

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 1:19 pm

I guess you missed the whole

The .300 Blackout cartridge also has the added benefit of being commercially available in either subsonic or supersonic loadings.

The difference between subsonic and supersonic bullets is that subsonic bullets travel slower than the speed of sound, or less than 1,050 fps. When fired through a rifle that has a suppressor, bullets traveling at subsonic speeds have a negligible signature and are almost impossible to detect.

thing, huh?

Well, it wasn’t a total waste of time. Look at it this way, you got to play around with You Tube, and watch some gun videos.

There are lots of advantages to not paying attention.

Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 1:34 pm

Yeah, that all happens after the primer ignites the powder… which is where the suppressor does the majority of it’s work.

Nice try though, for those who don’t know what we’re talking about you may have convinced most of them.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 2:04 pm

primer? powder? – gee.. do they still use that stuff? If you didn’t use any powder, wouldn’t the primer be silenced by the suppressor?

..and if, oh… say, you use so much less powder to go subsonic than supersonic… wouldn’t it then make less noise with the suppressor on? So little noise, that there’s not enough noise left to locate you?

Now, if I’m following your reasoning here, you’re saying that if it’s supersonic, instead of subsonic, the bullet would break the sound barrier after it leaves the barrel, and make a noise Republicans can locate you with? I guess that’s a bad thing, huh?

…. well, it’s probably making you all sleepy and shit, thinking about all these complicated things.. maybe you should take a nap, and come back when you’re feeling refreshed.

.. but don’t worry, nobody is watching you – or gives a fuck about this little rabbit trail.

Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 3:26 pm

Actually a primer will still pop like a firecracker with no powder and maybe propel the bullet to the end of the barrel. Why would a sniper use a round with no powder?

Yes the silencer would suppress the primer sound. What you don’t realize is that high power rifles use a lot of powder, a suppressor will not Hollywood suppress that much of the sound. It will suppress it enough that you can fire the weapon without damage to your ears. If you shoot a low power cartridge such as a .22LR subsonic the suppressor will reduce the majority of the explosive sound but some will escape if using a semi-automatic. If you use an enclosed chamber such as a bolt action, lever action or pump action rifle, you can achieve a Hollywood quiet suppressor.

Using your argument, my gun should be silenced if I just use subsonic rounds and no suppressor. Maybe you should get your information from real world experience and not movies.

Yes, a suppressor does nothing to slow down a supersonic bullet, so you will still get the sonic crack.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 4:00 pm

The recommended rifle is the Covert Whisper.

https://goo.gl/photos/dNmjYretiWxjkkdJA

Supersonic ammunition produces a muzzle signature of 134 dB (30.1 dB net reduction), which is several decibels quieter than a Sten MK2S or an unsuppressed .22 rimfire rifle firing subsonic ammunition. This is also the sound level where suppressed subsonic .308 caliber rifles operate. Meaning the Covert Whisper is very stealthy with supersonic ammunition.

Switching to subsonic ammunition, the compact Whisper really shines. Sound signatures drop to 126 dB (27.5 dB net) which is almost as quiet as a suppressed .22 rimfire pistol. The difference being a .22 rimfire typically fires a 38-40 grain bullet where the Covert Whisper is launching 150 – 240 grain bullets capable of penetrating body armor at ranges beyond 100 yards. That is some serious capability for something so stealthy.

..and as we both know, Republicans have thick skulls. I wouldn’t want a 22LR to ricochet off and kill something living – like a rat, or a snake.

Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 4:28 pm

That’s not even a real rifle, it’s a Thompson Contender pistol with a bunch of shit hanging off of it. With a 12″-14″ barrel you better be no further away than about 50 feet if you plan on hitting your target.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 4:53 pm

Thr Covert Whisper is a neat little suppressed weapon built to look as innocuous as possible. Compact enough to fit into a briefcase or computer case but able to pack a discrete wallop when required.

It is a Thompson Center Contender rifle with a side folding stock and 10 inch barrel chambered in 300 Whisper. The silencer is disguised as an ordinary flashlight when not on the weapon.

The Contender single-shot has been around for about 25 years and has developed a devout following due to its ability to quickly change calibers and configurations. This handy weapon offers an excellent platform for a compact, covert suppressed weapon. The single shot action reduces action noise to almost zero and ensures no tell-tale brass can be left behind.

The suppressor’s aluminium tube and front cap are not designed to soak up large amounts of rapid fire. This is a covert, concealable weapon for the discrete engagement and removal of point targets at ranges inside 200 yards. It is simply not meant for high intensity or open combat, however this suppressor was tested on a different rifle using a full power cartridge without blowing the endcap off or damaging the flashlight tube. Thus there is a significant safety factor when using the diminutive 300 Whisper cartridge.

Perfect for in-city sniping where the average shot from window to Republican is within 200 yards.

Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 8:38 pm

Well you’ve demonstrated that you can cut and paste from Google… what you haven’t demonstrated is that you know a damn thing about guns.

What it is is a piece of junk. It’s not deployable, if you pulled that out you’d get laughed at. “inside 200 yards”, why not just fucking stand next to the guy.

I’ve owned a Thompson Contender with 4 different barrels, it’s cool for what it is, that one-off abortion in the picture is fucking retarded and there’s nothing “covert” about it.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 9:21 pm

Damn, you’re dumb.

Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 11:12 pm

Why do you think that?

I just am fairly knowledgeable about guns. I also know that it appears your only knowledge of guns is what you’ve read while doing Google searches. I bet you’re in fact scared of guns and break out in a sweat thinking about handling or owning one. You should consider turning in your Man Card.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 11:18 pm

oh.. I don’t know.. I just kind of picked it up in the course of our conversation… nothing I could put my finger on…

…maybe it had something to do with the fact you didn’t know shit about the subject, but insisted on being condescending anyway.

…or that you didn’t bother to read anything I posted.

…maybe I’m reading too much into it, but you seem content to be ignorant and appear stupid.

Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 12:19 pm

Compare with the anti-flag rally pictures. I think it’s safe to say where public sentiment lies… on the side of love, not hate.

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 12:42 pm

Go take a shower and a nap, it’s too early to be stoned.

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Birthers For Cruz June 27, 2015 at 11:37 am

Ah the best thing about this is watching all these Republicans go friggin crazy!

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Love Won June 27, 2015 at 3:21 pm

What a great week for America and a horrible week for bigoted hateful old white Republicans! FSM be praised!

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Flip June 27, 2015 at 3:23 pm

Yeah, I am miserable and angry and there is nothing I can do about it! Wwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 11:43 am

I hope the book gets thrown at these people. It’s likely they are the same people who have spray painted other monuments. If they get the maximum penalty, it may send a message to the other idiots who are thinking about defacing other monuments.

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You talk just to hear yourself June 27, 2015 at 11:59 am

“It’s likely they are the same people who have spray painted other monuments”

Speculative bullshit.

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 12:41 pm

Oh look, someone here watches Matlock.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 11:53 am

It’s got to drive Haley haters crazy, how popular she has become. She has moved to the top of the VP lists. Even gets a hug here from Sharpton.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/nikki-haley-al-sharpton-share-a-hug-at-charleston-funeral-services/

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Dream On June 27, 2015 at 11:55 am

…because a hug from Sharpton makes me want to vote for Haley!

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 11:59 am

It’s an inoculation from liberal attacks. She has immunity from liberal attacks. The Republican nominee will have immunity from feminists attacks with Haley on the ticket.

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Cuckoo June 27, 2015 at 12:03 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3YD5v9w_3M

Ignorance is bliss. Do you honestly believe one grainy picture of a half-ass hug from that race-baiter will insulate Nicky Haley from attacks from black democrats?

You have your head so far in the clouds that I’m not sure you can be saved.

btw…i have some property in Arizona I’d like to sell you really cheap! It’s even ocean front!

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 12:10 pm

They will make their attacks, but the bullets. will bounce off her brackets.
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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 1:33 pm

Do you honestly believe one grainy picture of a half-ass hug
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How about a leaked Ultra High Def sex tape of her with Jesse Jackson?

TontoBubbaGoldstein June 27, 2015 at 12:17 pm

The Republican nominee will have immunity from feminists attacks with Haley on the ticket.

Sarah Palin on line 1…..

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 12:23 pm

Palin is reality TV, like Trump and T-Rav, they get attention but can’t poll above the low teens.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 1:29 pm

above the low teens
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Talking about her family is off limits!.

euwe max June 27, 2015 at 12:25 pm

Hips in, too!

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Hips Don't Lie June 27, 2015 at 12:49 pm

spooning standing up?

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 1:20 pm

They were facing.

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Sandi Morals June 27, 2015 at 12:50 pm

She got em again.The liberals have figured out they can’t beat her. When will the RINO’s? :)

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 12:56 pm

She will rise to the top and Will Folks, stuck at fits, will be left to wonder, what could have been if he had stayed out of trouble and shut his mouth.

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He appeases the liberals June 27, 2015 at 1:52 pm

He has made an industry catering to the Obam-ites, who hate Republicans. But is that really needed, or so hard to do?

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 11:58 am

“Bree wanted to ensure that white racists had no flag to worship at their rally today,” the group said in a tweet.”

So how’d that work out for her?

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Old Hippy June 27, 2015 at 12:16 pm

Well… quite well actually. Instead of the flag issue being sidelined for NY Manhunt, Gay Marriage, Healthcare Rulling, Obama sings… It’s still right in the 24 hour new cycle. Bad news for flag supporters.

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 12:40 pm

So sitting in jail for the weekend is a successful mission for an activist?

All she accomplished was piss off people for taking the law into her own hands, some of which will be voting on whether or not the flag stays or goes. Give it a week or two and people will have forgotten all about the Charleston shooting. Much like they’ve already forgotten about Aurora, Sandy Ridge, Columbine, etc…

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Squishy123 June 27, 2015 at 11:59 am

” horrific, racially motivated shooting in Charleston, S.C.”

Will apparently has a new favorite phrase.

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shifty henry June 27, 2015 at 12:02 pm

Where is the Governess Haley? Probably waiting to get some “face time” on the Sunday news programs, hoping that she doesn’t blurt out some insanely laughable statements.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 12:05 pm

Shifty, Shifty. You spend too much time on fits. Get out in the real world. The national media is praising her. She’s our next VP.

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shifty henry June 27, 2015 at 12:09 pm

Virgin Princess? It’s way, way too late for that!

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euwe max June 27, 2015 at 12:14 pm

I’d go for it, if it’ll make the crops in California grow again.

…I think the Kilauea Volcano is active, and available.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 12:16 pm

Precisely. If only Will would have stayed out of trouble and kept his mouth shut, he could have held onto her skirt hem and gone along for the ride.

shifty henry June 27, 2015 at 1:36 pm

Max’s pendulum has now swung to his positive thinking mode …

CorruptionInColumbia June 27, 2015 at 12:25 pm

What’s the difference in a 67 Harley and Nikki Haley?

Not everyone has ridden a 67 Harley.

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Slartibartfast June 29, 2015 at 9:58 pm

I had an ’82 Yamaha. And that was just the piano.

Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 12:27 pm

Would I be breaking the rules if I edit VP to Vice president?

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shifty henry June 27, 2015 at 1:34 pm

You have my permission to edit/change/remove/redact/ any comment without any criticism from me. I’ve been blasted for some of my phrasings — that’s part of my fun in seeing others zapped…….

Really?!? June 27, 2015 at 2:43 pm

No serious candidate would vet her. Remember her “half the applicants to the Savannah River Site can’t pass a drug test” comment? Remeber her issues with what exactly her saley was on her Lex Med application? Not to mention all the cabinet agency “rock stars” that she hand picked that ended up resigning in shame. Not to mention she railed on cutting gov costs while giving all her staff large raises.

A Haley VP nod would be a dream for the Dems, the national electorate is not nearly as gullible as the SC electorate.

Seriously, a Haley VP ticket only means one thing, hello President Clinton.

http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/metro/2011-09-19/haley-cant-document-srs-drug-test-failure-claim

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20110316/PC1602/303169903

Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 2:52 pm

You forgot, she’s a woman and of Indian decent besides..
How about Reverend Wright, ISIS is the B-flat blah blah…

SHE IS HOT!!!

CorruptionInColumbia June 27, 2015 at 4:11 pm

She’d be the “new and improved” Sara Palin. Now with 75% more corruption and 15% more skank added.

Quietus June 27, 2015 at 5:14 pm

Secretary of Commerce or Ambassadress to India.

Denozitall June 29, 2015 at 5:17 pm

Holy shit…send her to India, puh-leeeeaaase

ted June 29, 2015 at 12:07 pm

What in the hell are you smoking? She would not survive the vetting.

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Denozitall June 29, 2015 at 5:15 pm

That sucks, but at least it would get her worthless butt out of SC!

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Denozitall June 29, 2015 at 5:16 pm

Just like the military, if you can’t get rid of the worthless, promote them!!! It works every time.

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Tired of it all June 27, 2015 at 12:53 pm

IF the legislature takes the flag down and three days later someone hangs it back up…..what will the press call them?? An activist? A racist?

And if they are from out of state? Will that be marginalized or emphasized?

There remains no balanced reporting or discussion on this matter any longer…
are we sure the wacko didn’t accomplish his goal?

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sparklecity June 27, 2015 at 12:57 pm

How come Lee Bright was not standing guard at the flag pole guarding his symbol of “heritage”?
You can’t trust that slacker for a damn thing!!!!!
Only viable option is post a changing of the guards like at Arlington!!!!
Lee Bright and the Sons of the Confederacy should step right up!!!!

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Bibi June 27, 2015 at 1:17 pm

The Bible is an anthology of mythologies stolen from other religions.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 1:46 pm

The Bible is an anthology of mythologies stolen combined from other religions to unite into one religion.

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Thank God for everything good! June 27, 2015 at 2:22 pm

Liberalism is a dark, flaw-based religion, comprised of a series of lies that reveres false profits and charlatans, in order to control people, degrade them, and take their money. Whereas Christians, through the blessings of God, have built the most-prosperous, most-generous, successful and most-loving country on the face of the earth.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 1:28 pm

Will Folks and other critics praise Haley’s to ‘The Hill’

“I think she has handled it about as well as could be imagined,” said Will Folks,
Folks added that he thought she had “done a good job of being a uniter. And I say that as someone who has been critical of the governor on a wide range of issues.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/245931-haleys-stock-rises-amid-flag-furor

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CNSYD June 27, 2015 at 1:31 pm

Politics make for strange bed fellows.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 1:39 pm

And Haley always ends up on top. Double entendre intended.

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Clayton Bigsby June 27, 2015 at 2:52 pm

Haley’s been fantastic. She says she can’t take down the flag because it’s against the law, but she doesn’t mind breaking the law when it’s politically expedient, even when it costs the state millions.

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20141006/PC1603/141009608

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 3:00 pm

She has won more than her share of legal battles against the NLRB and IAM.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 3:05 pm

So What? Obama tried to break the laws on immigration and lost in court.

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R U still that stupid? June 27, 2015 at 1:49 pm

Most of the ignorant THINK they want anarchy, but it has not worked out so well for the Godless who preceding them. Has history not taught you anything? You’ve pushed the envelope before, and it’s why you are relegated to whiner losing status now. The people you hate always win, when you poke them.

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Bibi June 27, 2015 at 1:53 pm

Amerikkka, is occupied territory, founded & surviving on the myth of white supremacy.

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Bible Thumper June 27, 2015 at 2:12 pm

What’s wrong? You left out Jews. ;-)

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Book 'em Danno June 27, 2015 at 3:01 pm

Bond Court judge was way to lenient; $3,000 10% bond. She pays $300 (Well social media does) and she can leave the state. Should have left her in AGDC, she’s a flight risk. She has nothing invested in her bond and she’s facing 3 years in jail. Need to find out who the judge is. He/she/it need to be exposed.

http://imgur.com/8azzITL

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Book 'em Danno June 27, 2015 at 3:07 pm

It’s the Eastover Magistrate – Judge Donald Simons.
Todd Rutherford is her attorney. I guess we know how this is going to go, right to the Richland County Corruption bin.

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nitrat June 27, 2015 at 7:02 pm

Do you really want to pay someone’s room and board in jail or prison and the salaries of her guards for 3 years over the Confederate flag?

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DD June 28, 2015 at 10:27 am

Yes. These scum are ok till they turn on you.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis June 27, 2015 at 3:05 pm

The comment made by the ” African American ” rubs me wrong. I’m not a flag supporter, nor a ” African ” supporter. I support the USA.

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 3:07 pm

An effective stunt. Keeps the hate-flag on the front page. And shows the legislature that it will all never end until they remove the flag.

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Fran Leftist June 27, 2015 at 3:19 pm

A lawless stunt indeed.Front page? Nobody gives a shit outside of South Carolina and there only the paid political protesters that were at Ferguson and Baltimore.

Old news.

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 27, 2015 at 3:38 pm

Nobody but the bigot-brigade cares that it was lawless.
It was harmless but effective publicity and shows that attention is not going to go away.

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Civil Disobedience June 27, 2015 at 3:15 pm

Civil disobedience is a bit understandable if someone feels strongly for a cause and doesn’t feel it is getting the attention it deserves, but the flag will likely be removed at this point so you are just getting your ass thrown in jail for basically nothing. Real smart, morons.

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Fran Leftist June 27, 2015 at 3:20 pm

She was just practicing for what this is really about-removing the American Flag.

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Flip sucks June 27, 2015 at 3:36 pm

No one asked you, troll.

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Jail is home to the hateful June 27, 2015 at 4:13 pm

So many of the radical left are criminal, any way. So if they were not in jail for destruction and trespassing, they’d be in for armed robbery, assault or murder. These are not decent, law-abiding people were talking about.

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nitrat June 27, 2015 at 7:00 pm

Kind of like all those frivolous, meaningless political gesture, taxpayer financed losing lawsuits AGs in Red states have been filing since 2009…totally unnecessary just to stir things up.
I was thinking some civil disobedience was the way to go a couple of days ago, but have changed my mind….ever since I checked that list of foreign auto manufactures in the US and the states where most are located. They will see that the flag is taken care of.

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Slartibartfast June 28, 2015 at 5:37 pm

Yeah, but they were from North Carolina, the home of lost dreams and useless protests, so it is, at least, understandable.

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Fripp June 27, 2015 at 3:46 pm

Good! Take that nasty flag down and put a rainbow flag in its place! There should be no place for hate, only love! God bless! Pray for those who can’t let go of their hate, they know not what they do!

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Why are you still so bitter? June 27, 2015 at 4:10 pm

If you’ve followed social media since yesterday, the homosexual community is in full rage and hate, after getting the unConstitutional ruling that redefined marriage to what you said would make you whole. You are the most-hateful, vindictive and miserable people I’ve ever seen after a butchering of the law to your whim, and a “win.”

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9" June 27, 2015 at 5:05 pm

I don’t like the rainbow flag,and have never attended any sort of Pride march,etc.Flags tend to separate people. I’ve never wanted anything but to be included,and have equal rights,like everyone else.Why continue to isolate your self? Does it make you feel special?

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Why do you lie? June 27, 2015 at 5:35 pm

If you’re an American, you have equal rights. You’ve just been convinced to believe that you don’t have equal rights, to the point you now have extra-rights. I’m not going to get the rules of our institutions changed to my whims. Forced redefinition of marriage against the will of the people who created it and strengthened, is not equality. It’s dictating your capricious desires based on your sexual proclivities. Your habits do not avail you to more rights than others. You’re a selfish, and ignorant, bully. But you’ll never believe that, or be told by anyone pandering to you, because you are in the powerful political elitist class of a special interest.

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Traveler June 27, 2015 at 4:49 pm

This historically inaccurate and racist flag needs to be removed ASAP. Having said that, criminal acts, civil disobedience, and outside liberal and race-bait agitators do not help our cause. Let the legislature act in good faith and take the legal action to permanently remove the Battle Flag.

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Sam June 27, 2015 at 4:51 pm

Several comments and treads have been deleted. What must someone do to be deleted by FITS?

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Quietus June 27, 2015 at 5:10 pm

Someone deleted their Discus account, FITS didn’t delete the comments.

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tomstickler June 27, 2015 at 5:53 pm

Fran Leftist may have set a record for setting up a Disqus account with private history, changing avatar from Confederate flag to some History of the Bible poster, then chickening out after less than six hours.

Probably back to trolling as a “guest”.

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Quietus June 27, 2015 at 6:00 pm

So sad, Flippy-Pogo, III didn’t like in the land of the living with the rest of us. Back to the grey ghost profile for him.

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CarolinaWoman June 27, 2015 at 7:52 pm

I don’t care if they take the flag down or leave it alone. I just think people from other states don’t need to stick their nose in South Carolina business. The woman removing the flag was from North Carolina. The petition they have up to remove the flag has people from all over the United States and it’s none of their business. Let our elected members in Columbia decide. Take it down if it’s offending anyone or leave it alone just let it be South Carolina’s decision not the rest of the country.

I guess this means we need to cover up the bronze stars indicating where Sherman’s Union Army fired at our Capitol and just pretend the Civil War never happened.

Louis Farrakhan stated “We need to put the American flag down. Because
we’ve caught as much hell under that as the Confederate flag.”

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 28, 2015 at 9:33 am

Outsiders had to stick their noses into South Carolina’s to get black Americans treated like full human beings and US citizens. SC doesn’t have a very good record when it goes it alone.

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Speak D Truth June 29, 2015 at 10:15 am

South Carolina actually has a very good post reconstruction record compared to other states. The facts of the Orangeburg Massacre are debatable but wasn’t our finest hour. But if you look at the number of minorities that have held elected office and held positions of prominence you will see that we have not been oppressive and that we advanced with equal treatment for all at a rate equal to or faster than many other states. There were many federal civil rights court decisions handed down by federal judges in the SC Circuit. Recent events in Charleston from the unjustified shooting of a black man by a white officer, the racially motivated shooting of a white officer by a black man and the horrific murders at the church were all handled quickly, swiftly, and appropriately by SC without outside intervention or prompting. The citizens of this this state came together to support each other during these events without regard for race. So you can take your Todd Rutherford, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson inspired woe unto me attitude and shove it.

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randysmugglesgerbals June 27, 2015 at 8:15 pm

im sure its not the first pole shes shimmied

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 28, 2015 at 10:13 am

Imagine a porky wheezing Teabagger trying to get up that pole.

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Squishy123 June 28, 2015 at 10:31 am

I was shocked to see she was black, what next… swimming and skiing?

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euwe max June 28, 2015 at 1:18 am

Helmet and bullet proof vest… they’re learning!

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Mark June 28, 2015 at 8:05 am

You are truly a one hit wonder, with that hit being ” I am a vicious old liberal hack and everything I see is through the lens of hate.”

Grow up, get a life.

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euwe max June 28, 2015 at 8:37 am

Uncomfortable?

I thought those photographs had interesting historical significance, didn’t you?

Sort of like Norman Rockwell paintings, aren’t they?

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Hal June 28, 2015 at 10:25 am

No, I was referring to you.

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euwe max June 28, 2015 at 10:29 am

Me?

I thought you were replying to the content of the post.

Bible Thumper June 28, 2015 at 1:23 pm

We have to push back when hateful people appropriate symbols and words from others. Those pictures appear to all as klansmen. Before thee KKK, a klansmen might be a member of a Scottish fraternal organization. They have taken Confederate symbols as their own as well as Masonic rituals.
From no others have they taken more symbols, than Christians. The “Crann Tara” or fiery cross is a old Scottish custom and is currently used as the logo for the United Methodists church. Fire has long been a symbol of the Holy Spirit or indwelling gifts of the spirit.

White robes are also mention several times in the bible.
Revelation 7:9 — After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands,

Revelation 7:13 — Then one of the elders addressed me, saying, “Who are these, clothed in white robes, and from where have they come?”

This last verse refers to Christian martyrs and tells me that Martin Luther King will one day be wearing a white robe.

Revelation 6:11 — Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

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euwe max June 28, 2015 at 2:29 pm

That’s the first time I saw those.

I was pretty shocked.

Soft Sigh from Hell June 28, 2015 at 9:29 am

The target audience of the GOP’s Southern Strategy.

The direct antecedents of the GOP’s present base.

“Our Founders”

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MB Pete June 28, 2015 at 8:09 am

They took the flag down knowing it would inflame some people and hurt the peaceful action to remove the flag and facilitate healing.

Many people are PAID to keep this racial stuff in the face of those that disagree with them. I bet you a $1000 those criminals had an all expense paid trip to Cola to fan the fire.

Happens on both sides of the political fence, only difference the demo think they don’t do it.

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MB Pete June 28, 2015 at 8:15 am

Don’t be surprised if it does not come down. All this momentum give tremendous power to those members that disagree or are simply greedy, and they can hold this up for choice appointments or other political favors.

Stunts like the thugs from Fergerson pulled piss off a lot of people. You don’t have to get but 26% of the vote to keep the flag up, and there are districts that would approve of that and reward their representatives for standing strong.

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LadyBandwagon June 28, 2015 at 10:51 am

Just saw Senator Linda Graham’s remarks on Press the Meat. Most reasonable statement on the flag I’ve heard all week. Well said, sir… (uh…

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leftHandedCompliment June 28, 2015 at 11:23 am

Hey! It’s alright now, Boy, You can get married like everybody else!

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RogueElephant June 29, 2015 at 9:23 am

Where are all the cops with tazers when you need one ????

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Jackie Chiles June 29, 2015 at 10:08 am

Wasn’t there some guy on here saying if the flag was taken down, nobody would put it back up? Wonder why he didn’t do it himself?

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allison gilliam June 29, 2015 at 11:26 am

Did they even lower the flag for the funerals of the 9 slain? You know, out out respect. I want to know!

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