FACTS STILL UNCLEAR IN CONTROVERSIAL SHOOTING …
We have no clue what happened on the mean streets of Ferguson, Missouri on the evening of August 9, 2014 – when white police officer Darren Wilson of the Ferguson Police Department fired six bullets into 18-year-old Michael Brown, an unarmed black man.
Maybe one day stuff like this won’t be such a mystery … but in the interim, we’re content to continue letting the facts sort themselves out.
We know that one set of witnesses has offered up one version of events – namely that Brown was senselessly gunned down while holding his arms in the air to show he was not carrying a weapon – and another set of witnesses has offered up another narrative, that Brown assaulted Wilson prior to the shooting and caused damage to his face (allegedly an “orbital blowout fracture” of his eye socket).
We also know Brown was a suspect in a convenience store robbery prior to the shooting – a robbery in which he allegedly stole a $48.99 box of cigars and physically assaulted a clerk at the store (there’s video of the assault, by the way).
We know the streets of Ferguson erupted in the wake of his death … turning the town into a virtual war zone that prompted Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon to call out the National Guard.
And we know that the law enforcement overreaction to the Ferguson protests has spawned a much-needed debate in this country about why our local police departments are armed to the teeth with military hardware.
Nobody in the Ferguson drama has come out clean … the cops, protesters, media, politicians … nobody.
It’s a failure of the American experiment in every way imaginable, no matter what the facts of the case ultimately prove.
And while a grand jury mulls those particulars, the protesters have made it clear that there is only one acceptable outcome to the proceedings.
“This officer has to be indicted,” one told the Associated Press. “I’d hate to see what happens if he isn’t. The rioting, the looting, man …”
In addition to the local probe, a U.S. Department of Justice (USDOJ) investigation is also looking into the matter, seeking to determine whether the shooting was a civil rights violation.
The good news out of Ferguson? Things have quieted down considerably since the peak of the protests, with the streets remaining quiet and non-violent for three straight nights.
Let’s hope that trend holds … although it seems unlikely if the investigations don’t go the way the protesters want.
A kid attacks a cop. Not a good choice. Simple as that.
Exactly, especially when you bash the policeman’s skull in. Thank God, Wilson retained the gun. And justice resulted.
simple as that.
Yes, simple as white dudes scared as shit of young brown-skinned men. Or any brown-skin person, for that matter.
And your childish grade-school-playground taunting is
supposed to show us that the stereotype of violent, abusive,
brown skinned young men is wrong? You’re not helping things.
This is exactly why people don’t trust you, want to have you around them, hire you to work at their place of business. Once you enter the adult world, you have to leave this behind, or else
you’ll experience difficulties.
You take the comments section here seriously? Talk about needing to grow up.
Sometimes I do make the mistake of wasting the effort being
a straight arrow in a world of dirtbags. Yeah.
Time to grow up, then.
No. I think I’ll keep on trying to be the straight arrow, thanks.
Yeah…that didn’t happen. No broken eye socket. Just another scared white man, like you. Does it get old being so fearful all the time?
Hell, I’m afraid. Chicago just won LLWS. Ni##ers will burn south Chicago down tonight after they murder 10 more bro’s.
I’m scared????…but what is Michael Brown???….and Darren Wilson will walk free, as he should…Dumb@$$#$ like you will stay that way… LMAO…
Tango, you are the most scared white turd on this site. Hell, you probably avoid sunshine because of the color of your shadow.
You do not know if he has a broken eye socket or not. A scared man will kill you. Why do you think so many brothers kill each other!
He doesn’t. What is it about you types that get off on being terrified of dark skinned people?
Yes, I do. It was a lie, of course.
They’re not killing because they are scared of each other.
No broken eye socket, but apparently there was some
bruising. So he was attacked. You don’t need to break
bones for it to be an attack that -will- get you shot.
You actually believe that?
I believe nothing, one way or another. Just saying that once
the GJ report comes out, if there are hospital photos of even minor facial injuries, then that will be sufficient evidence that he was attacked. Getting yourselves hung up on the broken eye socket thing is a waste of energy.
Seems to me like Lil Mikey Brown was the one ascared, otherwise he would have complied. You go around acting like grown folks, you get put on your ass like grown folks.
Except you forgot that you can’t read and that you are ignorant and have no clue how to look past your blazing white racist blinders. Besides that you are right on.
Let me educate you, you willingly ignorant racist F*#k…….6-5, 270 lb. Bully-Robber Michael Brown attacked police officer Darren Wilson, hitting him so hard that he cracked Wilson’s eye-socket.
Brown then scuffled w/ Wilson, trying to take Wilson’s weapon, and Wilson’s gun fired….Brown turned to leave. Wilson told him to FREEZE. Brown mocked Wilson and said: What are you going to do…”Shoot me”…Brown then turned and charged Wilson…Wilson did his job, to applause from the decent people in this county.
FITS…you are Ignorant because you want to be. It FITS your Corrupt politics. America is not free when Thugs can break the law and get away. While you are as dangerous as Micheal Brown and Eric Holder, you have the right, like Obama to play the D@*n fool, that you are. …
But if you did what Brown did, they’d blow your stupid @$$ away too. There’s NOTHING like seeing a liberal paying for the consequences of his behavior…It just does not happen enough…
I’m just glad the law-abiding are beginning to gather for Wilson. I hope FITS – and his minions – would show up, and play stupid with them. I’d LMAO when justice manifested. I’d REALLY LMAO…
PS: If Wilson is indicted, it’s only because of hateful racist politics. He will not be convicted, unless he is tried by a black, democrat jury only…
your a faggot, give it a break.
Can’t stand when you get the living S#!* slapped out of you, with the truth. You like the myths so much better, don’t you?
You should move your computer to another room. That way you could actually fucking cuss without her looking over your shoulder, man.
Your poor, poor mother, that is
I am a faggot. Always will be. Used to fuck my Sgt. .
Gomer Pyle, is that you?
GrandTango/Emily Peterkin/SC Shit Blog/Guest, please get a job.
You educating anyone is a hysterical thought. This is SC, though…
Let me educate you, you willingly ignorant racist F*#k…….6-5, 270 lb.
I’d rather be educated by Raggedy Andy
At the time of his death, he was 6’4″ (1.93m) tall and weighed 292 lb (132 kg).
Very typical liberal and FITS-level thinker. The simple-minded effeminately hand-wring over immaterial details, while you are totally F*#king oblivious – and unable to offer substance – to anything that really matters.
Very typical idiot trying to plug his shit blog.
Have you read it?
That’s a good one. You can’t form a coherent thought or sentence here. Why would I want to read a whole paragraph of your idiocy?
You don’t read it, but you condemn it. Pretty F*#king uninformed of you, is it not?…LMAO….
Typical liberal. Too stupid to educate yourself, but you run your mouth based on your bigotry and hate.
No, I’d be stupid if I clicked on a link to your “blog”.
Commenting on something that you have not seen. LMAO… Just like the Dumb@$$#$ in Ferguson…You are in your own company of fools, anyway.
This place is certainly a company of fools. No doubt.
Don’t be so hard on yourself. You can certainly turn your life around. That’s what repentance is all about.
You are the FITS-level thinker. You live on this site, turd blossom.
Oh, my God. Hell is freezing over. I’m agreeing with GT…. and he’s RIGHT.
Debate is needed about police “armed to the teeth with military hardware.”
What’s the debate?
It has been 22 years since a rioter has been killed by police, State or National Guard.
Seattle Mardi Gras riots occurred on February 27, 2001. One man, Kris Kime, died of injuries sustained during an attempt to assist a woman being brutalized.
One police officer killed in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. A rapist was beaten to death by a crowd.
Whatever has changed in riot control since the Rodney King riots of 1992, has been good. Fifty three people died in those riots. Only the three listed above have died since then.
God bless the “military hardware” for saving lives.
Don’t you get the “other” news of all the people, black and white, who are shot by trigger-happy cops who very often have gone to the wrong address armed to the teeth in military gear? Here’s one of many for you.
Is it possible that a website called “Police State USA” just might be a little biased? Accidents and incompetence like this are bound to happen in a nation of over three hundred million. Your link had nothing to do with riot control or military equipment.
This is just one of many, and you can find them on numerous other sites as well. There have also been hundreds of pet dog shootings that happen every day – happening very often also at the wrong address and with no provocation. Why do you think there are sites called “Police State USA” and “Dogs Shot By Police?”
Google “Dogs saved by police”.
Which is the greater threat to civilization – authority, or freedom?
You can’t have one without the other. It’s the balance between tyranny and anarchy
I asked which was the greater threat, not which do you choose.
Morality is the key. The more morality there is the less authority is needed and the less we need to fear freedom.
You can’t change morality.
Not for the better by government for sure.
It’s seems you’re arguing with yourself now.
I’m convinced that I’m wrong. Sorry, It’s late
Yep, that’s exactly what Jesus said.
It applies to humans not saints. I discussed morality blow.
Without a doubt, authority.
I think so, too. Authority disagrees.
I once had my leg ripped open by a “family pet”. Still have scars. I was lucky. a neighbor went in, got a pistol, and shot it dead before it could kill me. I still love dogs (and have two), but I also recognize that they can be dangerous. It isn’t toy poodles being shot.
Ay dog can bite, but cops need to be trained in how to handle them. Cops should not be going to the wrong address and trespassing on peoples’ property without their permission.
God bless the “military hardware” for saving lives.
war is peace
Deterrents work. No one is disputing my facts above.
Do you believe in condoms as much as the death penalty?
The death penalty has a lower failure rate.
My pants are always down for loot.
The problem here is too many on this thread “know” what isn’t so.
I will not expect those who are spouting what they “know” that is already shown to be false to offer any sort of apology — not even a “nopology”.
Can I borrow a million?
Let’s see your business plan.
Sandi, are you begging because Haley fired you?
You just described the rioters, the Democrat Party, FITS, the liberals and the media. You run your F*#king mouths, in accordance with your ignorance, and your myths…and by the time the truth comes out – which proves you to be the F*#king liars you are – you have moved on to the next load of Bull-S#!t that you feast on, and try to feed everybody else.
Your whole propaganda campaign is based on your Fables and stupidity. You have not changed your playbook since 1960. Looking like a Fool does not faze you, because you are not held to account. And the self-appointed arbiters of truth are as F*#king ridiculous and lost as you…
PS: Tom, I’ve seen it said you live in Pawley’s..can you give me the first letter of the subdivision you live in?…. It would not surprise me a bit, if you are who I think you could be.
Let me educate you. A nigger is a nigger. he is a big nigger. fuck him asap. Bury him in a hole of shit.
But then who would your Mother blow for crack? Have a heart.
I want the hot dog cart concession rights for that corner. That’s what *I** know!
Yeah. Looting a hot dog stand, wouldn’t make sense.
Opposition to corrupt authority may result in seeing capitalism as oppression, but hot dog carts are still a perceived necessity. No one steals your pot when you’re sharing joints.
letting the facts sort themselves out.
Good luck with your magical thinking. If that’s how you studied for finals, that explains why you’re making a living as a sloppy journalist.
Sorting facts helps so that you can pick and choose.
Yeah, but he’s wanting to let the facts sort themselves out
You consistently comment on a ‘sloppy journalist’s’ blog every day. For free, one would assume. What’s your excuse?
i don’t need one.
Little Mike Brown
Went to town
To steal some cigars
He roughed up a clerk
And acted a jerk
when told to get out of the way of the cars
He fucked with a cop
Who told him to stop
Apparently he had the IQ of a rock
He ran at the officer
Which sent him to the coroner
’cause he shot him six times with his Glock.
The busted eye socket thing was disproven, I thought. The guy had swelling in the face but from my understanding no x-ray confirmed broken bones.
You don’t need to break bones for the cop to shoot you dead if you attack
him. I’m not sure why people are continuing to yammer on and on about
The bruising is sufficient to prove that Brown attacked Wilson – this isn’t a
contest to see who can dish out or receive more punishment, nor is
this a little tiff in the grade school playground. It’s not a game. If you attack
a police officer, you can expect to be shot. Even if there was just a tiny little
cut on Wilsons cheek from where Brown punched him.
It would have taken 5 seconds, if this account is true, to press that panic button, to press that two way radio to call for back up as he got out of his squad car to pursue Brown. Like, “officer needs help” or something. Dispatch was not aware there was even a shooting until news agencies alerted by social media called dispatch for more information.
5 seconds to push the panic button, 10 minutes to wait for backup to appear. Non-useful suggestion.
Anything to get the white man pissing in his drawers.
What have we learned from Ferguson, MO? Too much.
When crimes are committed, the public at unease, the police and prosecutors are known to make an arrest. Nothing is more soothing than our tax payer funded police hard at work arresting the bad guys. Considering the education and wherewithal of the majority of bad guys their jobs are easy. The tough cases, the cases of a more personal nature, the “political fallout” cases are not so easy…unless you entrap the bad guys, unless you fabricate the evidence, unless prosecutors engage in misconduct to convict the bad guys. This happens every hour of every day. Innocent people are convicted, citizens rights are violated, citizens are put in jail to fight an injustice system greased with money and privilege they do not have. However, when a police officer is found to break their oath’s, when police officers cover up crimes against the privileged, when prosecutors break the laws to get convictions, just once-twice-thrice-fifty times, we have a justice system subject to the whims and prejudices of those in uniform or elected offices to suit their fancies.
…Unless one of their own broke the laws, then we see stone walling, reluctance to prosecute, cell phone calls to supervisors then verbal warnings without arrests, light sentences upon conviction, if ever. If this happens once, twice, thrice, it happens all the time. Internal investigations often means administration leave with pay. Resignations or rare terminations lead to another job elsewhere doing the same thing. Until men and women in law enforcement stop working the system to fuck people over, until they stop with the bull shit, until they are prosecuted at the fullest extent of the law, we will have more Fergusons.
What else did we learn from Ferguson, MO?
“If you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?”—Sunil Dutta, an officer with the Los Angeles Police Department for 17 years
Life in the American police state is an endless series of don’ts delivered at the end of a loaded gun: don’t talk back to police officers, don’t even think about defending yourself against a SWAT team raid (of which there are 80,000 every year), don’t run when a cop is nearby lest you be mistaken for a fleeing criminal, don’t carry a cane lest it be mistaken for a gun, don’t expect privacy in public, don’t let your kids walk to the playground alone, don’t engage in nonviolent protest near where a government official might pass, don’t try to grow vegetables in your front yard, don’t play music for tips in a metro station, don’t feed whales, and on and on.
For those who resist, who dare to act independently, think for themselves, march to the beat of a different drummer, the consequences are invariably a one-way trip to the local jail or death.
What Americans must understand, what we have chosen to ignore, what we have fearfully turned a blind eye to lest the reality prove too jarring is the fact that we no longer live in the “city on the hill,” a beacon of freedom for all the world.
Far from being a shining example of democracy at work, we have become a lesson for the world in how quickly freedom turns to tyranny, how slippery the slope by which a once-freedom-loving people can be branded, shackled and fooled into believing that their prisons walls are, in fact, for their own protection.
Having spent more than half a century exporting war to foreign lands, profiting from war, and creating a national economy seemingly dependent on the spoils of war, we failed to protest when the war hawks turned their profit-driven appetites on us, bringing home the spoils of war—the military tanks, grenade launchers, Kevlar helmets, assault rifles, gas masks, ammunition, battering rams, night vision binoculars, etc.—to be distributed for free to local police agencies and used to secure the homeland against “we the people.”
It’s not just the Defense Department that is passing out free military equipment to local police. Since the early 1990s, the Justice Department has worked with the Pentagon to fund military technology for police departments. And then there are the billions of dollars’ worth of federal grants distributed by the Department of Homeland Security, enabling police departments to go on a veritable buying spree for highly questionable military-grade supplies better suited to the battlefield.
Is it any wonder that we now find ourselves in the midst of a war zone?
We live in a state of undeclared martial law. We have become the enemy.
In a war zone, there are no police—only soldiers. Thus, there is no more Posse Comitatus prohibiting the government from using the military in a law enforcement capacity. Not when the local police have, for all intents and purposes, already become the military.
In a war zone, the soldiers shoot to kill, as American police have now been trained to do. Whether the perceived “threat” is armed or unarmed no longer matters when police are authorized to shoot first and ask questions later.
In a war zone, even the youngest members of the community learn at an early age to accept and fear the soldier in their midst. Thanks to funding from the Obama administration, more schools are hiring armed police officers—some equipped with semi-automatic AR-15 rifles—to “secure” their campuses.
In a war zone, you have no rights. When you are staring down the end of a police rifle, there can be no free speech. When you’re being held at bay by a militarized, weaponized mine-resistant tank, there can be no freedom of assembly. When you’re being surveilled with thermal imaging devices, facial recognition software and full-body scanners and the like, there can be no privacy. When you’re charged with disorderly conduct simply for daring to question or photograph or document the injustices you see, with the blessing of the courts no less, there can be no freedom to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
And when you’re a prisoner in your own town, unable to move freely, kept off the streets, issued a curfew at night, there can be no mistaking the prison walls closing in.
This is not just happening in Ferguson, Missouri. As I show in my book A Government of Wolves: The Emerging American Police State, it’s happening and will happen anywhere and everywhere else in this country where law enforcement officials are given carte blanche to do what they like, when they like, how they like, with immunity from their superiors, the legislatures, and the courts.
You see, what Americans have failed to comprehend, living as they do in a TV-induced, drug-like haze of fabricated realities, narcissistic denial, and partisan politics, is that we’ve not only brought the military equipment used in Iraq and Afghanistan home to be used against the American people. We’ve also brought the very spirit of the war home.
This is what it feels like to be a conquered people. This is what it feels like to be an occupied nation. This is what it feels like to live in fear of armed men crashing through your door in the middle of the night, or to be accused of doing something you never even knew was a crime, or to be watched all the time, your movements tracked, your motives questioned.
This is what it’s like to be a citizen of the American police state. This is what it’s like to be an enemy combatant in your own country.
So if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, by all means, stand down. Cower in the face of the police, turn your eyes away from injustice, find any excuse to suggest that the so-called victims of the police state deserved what they got.
But remember, when that rifle finally gets pointed in your direction—and it will—when there’s no one left to stand up for you or speak up for you, remember that you were warned.
It works the same in every age. Martin Niemoller understood this. A German pastor who openly opposed Hitler and spent the last seven years of Nazi rule in a concentration camp, Niemoller warned:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
By John W. Whitehead, an attorney and author who has written, debated and practiced widely in the area of constitutional law and human rights. Whitehead’s concern for the persecuted and oppressed led him, in 1982, to establish The Rutherford Institute, a nonprofit civil liberties and human rights organization whose international headquarters are located in Charlottesville, Virginia. Whitehead serves as the Institute’s president and spokesperson
I saw somewhere today where they posted Brown’s juvenile arrest records, and it wasn’t a short list.
Kind of like the job Wilson got fired from because he was a racist in Jennings. Keep celebrating the death of a kid and calling yourself a Christian. You end like the rest of them.
The Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson defense fund is collecting money like wildfire. Read about it on SCPD. Coverage over here SUCKS, unless you’re a radical idiot leftwing liberal.
Oh, that is such a smart comment. You must be a brilliant Tea Bagger. Oh, wait, you guys hate thinking.
It shows liberals are TAKERS not givers. You can run your mouth in defense of Brown, who attacked Wilson, but you are not GIVING the level of money so his family can GET PAID for the political power his life gave for you to advance.
Conservatives need to quit whining all the time about the media, gays, blacks, democrats, liberals, intellectuals, muslims, Europe, the UN — oh, pretty much anything that doesn’t fit into your fake-Christian pew of hate and intolerance and frothing resentment.
You know who you are and so does America — the media doesn’t need to tell anyone that the Tea Party is built on rage and resentment and hatred, That’s what you do when you open your mouths or pluck away on your little keys.
And if you could just get us to those gall-darn Gas Chambers, like your idol Adolph did so many years ago, you’d have your “Final Solution”…Wouldn’t you?
It’s Tea – Party rage that is present in the streets of Ferguson, Mo. They are the ones looting.
Here are some more facts. Check out the video of the cop in Ferguson pointing his weapon at protestors at near point blank range will threatening to kill them outright and using profanity when asked what his name was…he’s now suspended.
Check out the story about the cop from a neighboring precinct in St. Louis who said he’s “into diversity…I’ll kill everyone” or the cop who said that the protestors need to be put down like rabid dogs.
In fact, if you go to the State and type in police or cop in the search bar, you’ll get dozens of stories about cops in SC who are corrupt, drunk, abusive, wife beaters, bullies, liars and the like.
Yes, let’s support our local law enforcement.
Just another nigger dead.