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Obama, Hitler And The SCGOP

The S.C. Republican Party (SCGOP) is in hot water over a fundraising email which asserts that U.S. President Barack Obama’s Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is his “Gestapo.” The email – which asks recipients to donate $20.14 to the party – does not directly make the reference, but contains a logo…

The S.C. Republican Party (SCGOP) is in hot water over a fundraising email which asserts that U.S. President Barack Obama’s Internal Revenue Service (IRS) is his “Gestapo.”

The email – which asks recipients to donate $20.14 to the party – does not directly make the reference, but contains a logo which makes the claim. Take a look …

gestapo

Is this really what we’re writing on today? Sheesh …

This website is no friend of the SCGOP. In fact we recently blistered U.S. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) for helping the organization raise money.

“If Rand Paul wishes to have any credibility whatsoever with true fiscal conservative, pro-free market, pro-liberty voters – he will refrain from lending his financial support to an ethically bankrupt entity like the SCGOP,” we wrote of Paul’s efforts.

But in this case the SCGOP is absolutely correct – and the indignation of its critics rings hollow.

Here’s the bottom line: If Obama and his “Republican” stooges like U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham don’t like being referred to as Nazis, then they should stop behaving like Nazis.

(Drops microphone).

What do you think? Vote in our poll and post your thoughts in our comments section below …

UPDATE: Well that didn’t take long. The S.C. Democratic Party (SCDP) just issued a press release demanding Gov. Nikki Haley apologize for her comments.

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108 comments

Dice Man July 30, 2013 at 1:58 pm

If it feels like a Luger, looks like a Luger, and smells like a Luger, it MUST be a Red Rider BB Gun………

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Finius Nullis July 30, 2013 at 2:30 pm

In Moscow, Ivan was wakened by furious knocking on his door at 3 am.
“Who is there?”, he asks.
“Mail man,” is the response.
Ivan opens the door to find the State Police who take him in for a brutal interrogation.
For the next three months the same thing happens.
The fourth month when the State Police knock there is no answer. Questioning a neighbor they asked, “Where is Ivan?”
“He has moved to America,” is the response. “Ivan got tired of living where the mail is delivered at 3 am in the morning.”

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Dice Man July 30, 2013 at 1:58 pm

If it feels like a Luger, looks like a Luger, and smells like a Luger, it MUST be a Red Rider BB Gun………

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Finius Nullis July 30, 2013 at 2:30 pm

In Moscow, Ivan was wakened by furious knocking on his door at 3 am.
“Who is there?”, he asks.
“Mail man,” is the response.
Ivan opens the door to find the State Police who take him in for a brutal interrogation.
For the next three months the same thing happens.
The fourth month when the State Police knock there is no answer. Questioning a neighbor they asked, “Where is Ivan?”
“He has moved to America,” is the response. “Ivan got tired of living where the mail is delivered at 3 am in the morning.”

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RHood2 July 30, 2013 at 2:19 pm

I am sorry, but name one hat he IRS has done akin to the Gestapo rouning up enemies of the state for DEATH CAMPS.
I don’t like what was done in Cincy, but oh, our application was deyed longer than theirs before BEING APPROVED. Yup, just the same as getting prepped for Zyclon B.
You conservatiepves can be such pussies and wimps some times.

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Finius Nullis July 30, 2013 at 2:35 pm

Stay alert — the rumor is that he doesn’t like little red roosters.

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Vanguard16 July 31, 2013 at 3:21 pm

As one who pays his fair share of taxes, I applaud the IRS for looking out for my tax dollars on organizations that wish to be tax exempt.

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Smirks July 31, 2013 at 3:46 pm

But that delay is the literal equivalent to Kristallnacht!

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RHood2 July 30, 2013 at 2:19 pm

I am sorry, but name one hat he IRS has done akin to the Gestapo rouning up enemies of the state for DEATH CAMPS.
I don’t like what was done in Cincy, but oh, our application was deyed longer than theirs before BEING APPROVED. Yup, just the same as getting prepped for Zyclon B.
You conservatiepves can be such pussies and wimps some times.

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Finius Nullis July 30, 2013 at 2:35 pm

Stay alert — the rumor is that he doesn’t like little red roosters.

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Vanguard16 July 31, 2013 at 3:21 pm

As one who pays his fair share of taxes, I applaud the IRS for looking out for my tax dollars on organizations that wish to be tax exempt.

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Smirks July 31, 2013 at 3:46 pm

But that delay is the literal equivalent to Kristallnacht! /sarcasm

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GreenvilleLwyr July 30, 2013 at 2:26 pm

Too far, Will. Has Obama ordered the extinction of an entire race of people? Is he responsible for the deaths of six million members of any one particular race or religion?

This is the type of rhetoric that is unproductive and harmful. But I suppose it will generate a few page hits, so it’s all good, right?

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Frank Pytel July 30, 2013 at 2:27 pm

No No GL. He’s reporting. You decide. :)

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GreenvilleLwyr July 30, 2013 at 2:32 pm

What is he reporting? He’s not. He is referencing the SCGOP being “in hot water” without mentioning any names or any other sources of information. I hadn’t heard about this at all, and I try to stay pretty plugged in.

This is just mentioning a nothing story for the purpose of painting the President as a mass-murdering lunatic. No news here, just right wing knee-jerk rhetoric.

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Frank Pytel July 30, 2013 at 2:36 pm

OK. So you decided he’s Pol Pot today. ???

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Finius Nullis July 30, 2013 at 2:33 pm

Not yet, anyhow——his time is running out.

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Nölff July 30, 2013 at 2:47 pm

You’re absolutely right. You end up sounding like BigTango with the Nazi comparisons.

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loisdeboid August 1, 2013 at 12:13 pm

Where is that Tango piece of work? I haven’t been to this site in a while and suddenly it’s civilized and the IQ level of the commentators seems to have risen considerably.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 3:26 pm

Siccing the IRS on political opponents, or to put it another way, using the power of the state to harass the opposition is certainly a Gestapo-ish tactic. Torture, secret prisons, mass domestic spying programs etc are also.
Keep in mind, Hitler was in power for many years before WWII and the Final Solution came along. It has been said, that had he died in 1939, he would have gone down in history as Germany’s greatest leader.
TBG fears any leader or government that has/exercises this type power because sooner or later the power WILL be put to bad use. As evil as Hitler was, he did not operate in a vacuum; it took many years for the Nazi’s to consolidate enough political power to do what they did. Folks should heed Lord Acton’s words.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 3:54 pm

Just for fun, let’s move the whole Martin/Zimmerman thing to 1936 Germany and make Martin a German with Nordic features and Zimmerman a Jew. Vis-a-vis the national (federal) government(s), the results may have been similar.

Now take the same hypothetical and move it to Germany in 1941.

Now imagine what the original Martin/Zimmerman would look like in 2018 America………

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Squishy123 July 30, 2013 at 5:17 pm

He’s done his share to blame whitey for the death of poor little black boys. I’m sure if he could take out the Republican citizens he would.

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Roberto July 30, 2013 at 7:10 pm

So the Hitler references by Democrats and lefties towards Bush for 8 years was wrong, and we can count on commenting negatively on that in the future?

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Jesus H. Christ! July 30, 2013 at 9:37 pm

Refresh My memory – when did a statewide Democratic party ever compare Bush to Hitler?

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 11:05 pm

Googled it and apparently the answer is “never.”

Somewhat surprised Harpo squandered his chance.

BTW, does the “H.” stand for “Hallmark”?

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Frank Pytel July 31, 2013 at 8:39 am

https://www.google.com/search?num=100&safe=off&hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&biw=1920&bih=899&q=%22democrat+says+bush+is+a+nazi%22&oq=%22democrat+says+bush+is+a+nazi%22&gs_l=serp.3..30i10.76671.80099.0.80754.14.14.0.0.0.0.185.1554.3j11.14.0….0…1c.1.23.serp..6.8.697.KmY1ThXZPk0
12.8 M hits friend. :)

Frank Pytel July 31, 2013 at 8:38 am

I suppose a narrow enough question will result in the answer you want. How about a broader one (not that I’m a fan of Demlicans or Republicrats).

Oh shit, wait. Yeah Google turned up 12.8 M hits. TBG. Get with the program. Your Google skills need some work.

https://www.google.com/search?num=100&safe=off&hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&biw=1920&bih=899&q=%22democrat+says+bush+is+a+nazi%22&oq=%22democrat+says+bush+is+a+nazi%22&gs_l=serp.3..30i10.76671.80099.0.80754.14.14.0.0.0.0.185.1554.3j11.14.0….0…1c.1.23.serp..6.8.697.KmY1ThXZPk0

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Smirks July 31, 2013 at 3:40 pm

So the Hitler references by Democrats and lefties towards Bush for 8
years was wrong, and we can count on commenting negatively on that in
the future?

I’ll say yes.

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Frank Pytel July 31, 2013 at 7:44 am

I have to take issue with you on this GL. Personally I’m sick of hearing the All Jew All the time channel.

Major claims of the Gestapo are as follows (aside from murder/assassination).
1. They operated outside of the law (no judicial review).
2. They spearheaded firearm/weapons registration.
3. They instilled fear by way of jackboots for the purpose of taxation, state mandated education and criminalizing the peoples rights.

There’s the basics. So tell me how the Demlicans, the Repuklicrats, Oshitforbrains, Bushy or any other ‘power player’ the MSM loves is different? Just because they haven’t killed six million doesn’t mean their not on their way to accomplishing it post haste. The analogy is a great one.

Have a Great Day!! :) There won’t be many left with the Demlicans and Republicrats in charge.

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GreenvilleLwyr July 30, 2013 at 2:26 pm

Too far, Will. Has Obama ordered the extinction of an entire race of people? Is he responsible for the deaths of six million members of any one particular race or religion?

This is the type of rhetoric that is unproductive and harmful. But I suppose it will generate a few page hits, so it’s all good, right?

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Frank Pytel July 30, 2013 at 2:27 pm

No No GL. He’s reporting. You decide. :)

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GreenvilleLwyr July 30, 2013 at 2:32 pm

What is he reporting? He’s not. He is referencing the SCGOP being “in hot water” without mentioning any names or any other sources of information. I hadn’t heard about this at all, and I try to stay pretty plugged in.

This is just mentioning a nothing story for the purpose of painting the President as a mass-murdering lunatic. No news here, just right wing knee-jerk rhetoric.

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Frank Pytel July 30, 2013 at 2:36 pm

OK. So you decided he’s Pol Pot today. ???

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Finius Nullis July 30, 2013 at 2:33 pm

Not yet, anyhow——his time is running out.

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Nölff July 30, 2013 at 2:47 pm

You’re absolutely right. You end up sounding like BigTango with the Nazi comparisons.

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loisdeboid August 1, 2013 at 12:13 pm

Where is that Tango piece of work? I haven’t been to this site in a while and suddenly it’s civilized and the IQ level of the commentators seems to have risen considerably.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 3:26 pm

Siccing the IRS on political opponents, or to put it another way, using the power of the state to harass the opposition is certainly a Gestapo-ish tactic. Torture, secret prisons, mass domestic spying programs etc are also.
Keep in mind, Hitler was in power for many years before WWII and the Final Solution came along. It has been said, that had he died in 1939, he would have gone down in history as Germany’s greatest leader.
TBG fears any leader or government that has/exercises this type power because sooner or later the power WILL be put to bad use. As evil as Hitler was, he did not operate in a vacuum; it took many years for the Nazi’s to consolidate enough political power to do what they did. Folks should heed Lord Acton’s words.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 3:54 pm

Just for fun, let’s move the whole Martin/Zimmerman thing to 1936 Germany and make Martin a German with Nordic features and Zimmerman a Jew. Vis-a-vis the national (federal) government(s), the results may have been similar.

Now take the same hypothetical and move it to Germany in 1941.

Now imagine what the original Martin/Zimmerman would look like in 2018 America………

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Squishy123 July 30, 2013 at 5:17 pm

He’s done his share to blame whitey for the death of poor little black boys. I’m sure if he could take out the Republican citizens he would.

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Roberto July 30, 2013 at 7:10 pm

So the Hitler references by Democrats and lefties towards Bush for 8 years was wrong, and we can count on commenting negatively on that in the future?

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Jesus H. Christ! July 30, 2013 at 9:37 pm

Refresh My memory – when did a statewide Democratic party ever compare Bush to Hitler?

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 11:05 pm

Googled it and apparently the answer is “never.”

Somewhat surprised Harpo squandered his chance.

BTW, does the “H.” stand for “Hallmark”?

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Frank Pytel July 31, 2013 at 8:39 am

https://www.google.com/search?num=100&safe=off&hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&biw=1920&bih=899&q=%22democrat+says+bush+is+a+nazi%22&oq=%22democrat+says+bush+is+a+nazi%22&gs_l=serp.3..30i10.76671.80099.0.80754.14.14.0.0.0.0.185.1554.3j11.14.0….0…1c.1.23.serp..6.8.697.KmY1ThXZPk0
12.8 M hits friend. :)

Frank Pytel July 31, 2013 at 8:38 am

I suppose a narrow enough question will result in the answer you want. How about a broader one (not that I’m a fan of Demlicans or Republicrats).

Oh shit, wait. Yeah Google turned up 12.8 M hits. TBG. Get with the program. Your Google skills need some work.

https://www.google.com/search?num=100&safe=off&hl=en&gl=us&authuser=0&biw=1920&bih=899&q=%22democrat+says+bush+is+a+nazi%22&oq=%22democrat+says+bush+is+a+nazi%22&gs_l=serp.3..30i10.76671.80099.0.80754.14.14.0.0.0.0.185.1554.3j11.14.0….0…1c.1.23.serp..6.8.697.KmY1ThXZPk0

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Smirks July 31, 2013 at 3:40 pm

So the Hitler references by Democrats and lefties towards Bush for 8
years was wrong, and we can count on commenting negatively on that in
the future?

I’ll say yes.

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Frank Pytel July 31, 2013 at 7:44 am

I have to take issue with you on this GL. Personally I’m sick of hearing the All Jew All the time channel.

Major claims of the Gestapo are as follows (aside from murder/assassination).
1. They operated outside of the law (no judicial review).
2. They spearheaded firearm/weapons registration.
3. They instilled fear by way of jackboots for the purpose of taxation, state mandated education and criminalizing the peoples rights.

There’s the basics. So tell me how the Demlicans, the Repuklicrats, Oshitforbrains, Bushy or any other ‘power player’ the MSM loves is different? Just because they haven’t killed six million doesn’t mean their not on their way to accomplishing it post haste. The analogy is a great one.

Have a Great Day!! :) There won’t be many left with the Demlicans and Republicrats in charge.

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mph July 30, 2013 at 3:01 pm

Grown ups don’t use NAZI references. But let’s not kid ourselves.

And who gives a shit if he or the SCGOP call the President a fascist? I don’t want an apology. I mean, dog bites man. Besides, it’s not about the ideology, it’s about the dollars. Who cares about credibility when there’s a buck to be made.

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nitrat July 30, 2013 at 3:01 pm

What is truly pathetic is that the once GOP, after becoming the party of the Southern Strategy gone nationwide, is the entity that is infinitely closer in organization, ideology and tactics to fascists in general, and Hitler’s Nazis in particular.
Their ignorance of real world history, rather than the revisionist variety pushed by the GOP since Reagan and his one Big Lie after another and adored by the Libertarians, is the reason they don’t know what they have become.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 3:41 pm

For the sake of community and civility, TBG is willing to cede the GOP = NAZI fascists argument, if you will admit that the Democrats = Stalinist communists.

Yeah….didn’t think so.

TBG thinks both parties are chock full of power hungry, statist whores and that there is not a dime’s worth of difference between them.

BTW, libertarians (and especially Libertarians) do not “adore” Reagan. We liked his rhetoric but were disappointed in his performance. Keep in mind, he was a self-identified “FDR New Dealer”.

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nitrat July 30, 2013 at 6:45 pm

Since I know the definitions of Stalinist, communist and even socialist, hell no, I will not admit they = Democrats.
Pardon my lack of clarity, I was referring to the love of revisionist history that pretty much defines Libertarians and not how they feel about Reagan, though he was a fan of Nozick’s “Anarchy”

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 11:42 pm

Genuinely curious ….. I’d like a few examples of the “revisionist history that pretty much defines Libertarians” .

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nitrat July 31, 2013 at 11:26 am
TontoBubbaGoldstein July 31, 2013 at 11:44 am

Thanks. Will read today and get back to you.

? July 31, 2013 at 2:03 pm

Don’t even waste your time TBG…Nozick is nothing more then a Straw man created by Slate to attack libertarianism without actually talking about….libertarianism. lol

Nozick doesn’t even merit an entry in Wikipedia under “libertarianism”…that’s how “important” he is to the idea. It’s completely laughable that anyone important in libertarianism would emerge from Harvard to begin with.

lol

Only dupes looking for hit pieces regardless of content would reference this article.

If you want a “history” you start with the wiki entry, but you better also look up “classical liberalism”; under which libertarianism has some foundational elements as well.

For those wanting to try to effectively attack it, you start with Hayek & Mises…maybe backtracking to why Lockean property theories are “wrong”(and Bastiat perhaps), Say as well…then attack the Hayek & Mises underpinnings…moving in for the kill on Murray Rothbard.

Good luck with all that for those who try…lol….I’m sure there’s some gov’t funding someplace for someone that can make a good go of it.

TontoBubbaGoldstein August 1, 2013 at 8:23 am

Agreed. The neat thing about Bastiat’s “The Law” is that it is just as relevant today, as when it was written. If you want a hoot, get a copy of P J O’Rourke’s The American Spectator’s Enemies List (1996). You will be amazed at how much of this book could have been written in 2013. Same organizations, same people, same idiocy…..

TontoBubbaGoldstein August 1, 2013 at 8:14 am

Nozick (who?) = the father of libertarians. John Maynard Keynes, Noam Chomsky = libertarians. Well, thats definately some revisionist history at work there.
This article makes an argument against some of Nozick’s theories….but… (maybe I’m dense or under caffeinated this am), I didn’t see examples of “revisionist history that pretty much defines Libertarians” .

mph July 30, 2013 at 3:01 pm

Grown ups don’t use NAZI references. But let’s not kid ourselves.

And who gives a shit if he or the SCGOP call the President a fascist? I don’t want an apology. I mean, dog bites man. Besides, it’s not about the ideology, it’s about the dollars. Who cares about credibility when there’s a buck to be made.

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nitrat July 30, 2013 at 3:01 pm

What is truly pathetic is that the once GOP, after becoming the party of the Southern Strategy gone nationwide, is the entity that is infinitely closer in organization, ideology and tactics to fascists in general, and Hitler’s Nazis in particular.
Their ignorance of real world history, rather than the revisionist variety pushed by the GOP since Reagan and his one Big Lie after another and adored by the Libertarians, is the reason they don’t know what they have become.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 3:41 pm

For the sake of community and civility, TBG is willing to cede the GOP = NAZI fascists argument, if you will admit that the Democrats = Stalinist communists.

Yeah….didn’t think so.

TBG thinks both parties are chock full of power hungry, statist whores and that there is not a dime’s worth of difference between them.

BTW, libertarians (and especially Libertarians) do not “adore” Reagan. We liked his rhetoric but were disappointed in his performance. Keep in mind, he was a self-identified “FDR New Dealer”.

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nitrat July 30, 2013 at 6:45 pm

Since I know the definitions of Stalinist, communist and even socialist, hell no, I will not admit they = Democrats.
Pardon my lack of clarity, I was referring to the love of revisionist history that pretty much defines Libertarians and not how they feel about Reagan, though he was a fan of Nozick’s “Anarchy”

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 11:42 pm

Genuinely curious ….. I’d like a few examples of the “revisionist history that pretty much defines Libertarians” .

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nitrat July 31, 2013 at 11:26 am
TontoBubbaGoldstein July 31, 2013 at 11:44 am

Thanks. Will read today and get back to you.

? July 31, 2013 at 2:03 pm

Don’t even waste your time TBG…Nozick is nothing more then a Straw man created by Slate to attack libertarianism without actually talking about….libertarianism. lol

Nozick doesn’t even merit an entry in Wikipedia under “libertarianism”…that’s how “important” he is to the idea. It’s completely laughable that anyone important in libertarianism would emerge from Harvard to begin with.

lol

Only dupes looking for hit pieces regardless of content would reference this article.

If you want a “history” you start with the wiki entry, but you better also look up “classical liberalism”; under which libertarianism has some foundational elements as well.

For those wanting to try to effectively attack it, you start with Hayek & Mises…maybe backtracking to why Lockean property theories are “wrong”(and Bastiat perhaps), Say as well…then attack the Hayek & Mises underpinnings…moving in for the kill on Murray Rothbard.

Good luck with all that for those who try…lol….I’m sure there’s some gov’t funding someplace for someone that can make a good go of it.

TontoBubbaGoldstein August 1, 2013 at 8:23 am

Agreed. The neat thing about Bastiat’s “The Law” is that it is just as relevant today, as when it was written. If you want a hoot, get a copy of P J O’Rourke’s The American Spectator’s Enemies List (1996). You will be amazed at how much of this book could have been written in 2013. Same organizations, same people, same idiocy…..

TontoBubbaGoldstein August 1, 2013 at 8:14 am

Nozick (who?) = the father of libertarians. John Maynard Keynes, Noam Chomsky = libertarians. Well, thats definately some revisionist history at work there.
This article makes an argument against some of Nozick’s theories….but… (maybe I’m dense or under caffeinated this am), I didn’t see examples of “revisionist history that pretty much defines Libertarians” .

L I'll Be July 30, 2013 at 3:06 pm

It is not only offensive it shows how ignorant anyone from SC or the GOP who believes such fake news to begin with………..Will, how about posting how political organizations of all stripes were targeted for applying for 501(C)(4)

Conservative groups with terms such as “Tea Party” in their names AND liberal-leaning groups and the Occupy movement. Politics are dirty, but the GOP seem to have a monopoly on dirtiness and “fake scandals” right now……..

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Reading Comprehension July 30, 2013 at 3:16 pm Reply
L I'll Be July 30, 2013 at 3:36 pm

Thanks RC, I missed that article! GOP people need to read and understand this type article, and quit spouting this kind of craziness, Nazi comparisons and fake scandals………….I know I am naive!

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L I'll Be July 30, 2013 at 3:06 pm

It is not only offensive it shows how ignorant anyone from SC or the GOP who believes such fake news to begin with………..Will, how about posting how political organizations of all stripes were targeted for applying for 501(C)(4)

Conservative groups with terms such as “Tea Party” in their names AND liberal-leaning groups and the Occupy movement. Politics are dirty, but the GOP seem to have a monopoly on dirtiness and “fake scandals” right now……..

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Reading Comprehension July 30, 2013 at 3:16 pm Reply
L I'll Be July 30, 2013 at 3:36 pm

Thanks RC, I missed that article! GOP people need to read and understand this type article, and quit spouting this kind of craziness, Nazi comparisons and fake scandals………….I know I am naive!

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bogart July 30, 2013 at 3:17 pm

Republicans seem to only be interested in Hitler and vaginas….why is that?

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 11:09 pm

Hey, bogie….I’m no Republican!!

*The hit dog yelps*

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bogart July 30, 2013 at 3:17 pm

Republicans seem to only be interested in Hitler and vaginas….why is that?

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 11:09 pm

Hey, bogie….I’m no Republican!!

*The hit dog yelps*

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okay July 30, 2013 at 3:21 pm

Really? Who cares. The D’s would have an easier time crying foul if the IRS wasn’t engaged in political targeting and extensive corruption. Stupid reference, yes, but ask most Americans if they’re offended by it…

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okay July 30, 2013 at 3:21 pm

Really? Who cares. The D’s would have an easier time crying foul if the IRS wasn’t engaged in political targeting and extensive corruption. Stupid reference, yes, but ask most Americans if they’re offended by it…

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Comrade1917 July 30, 2013 at 6:46 pm

Obama is a true Neo-Marxist and not a National Socialist (Nazi).

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Comrade1917 July 30, 2013 at 6:46 pm

Obama is a true Neo-Marxist and not a National Socialist (Nazi).

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Utah July 30, 2013 at 6:51 pm

It’s clear that lots of people have no recognition of a metaphor when they see one.

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Curious July 30, 2013 at 6:52 pm

I believe you mean a false analogy.

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Utah July 30, 2013 at 6:51 pm

It’s clear that lots of people have no recognition of a metaphor when they see one.

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Curious July 30, 2013 at 6:52 pm

I believe you mean a false analogy.

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d d July 30, 2013 at 6:54 pm

I am a conservative, proud American, and love my country. Regardless of what party you support, this was ill-conceived and just unintelligent. Most who hate and mean truly hate Obama and simply cannot articulate beyond rhetoric they google, cut and paste into blogs, need to look at if they want to be part of an intelligent conversation. If you are Grand Tango or some others, the answer will be a string of rants, something with liberal in it and/or name-calling.

If you haven’t studied history of what the Nazis did or the Gestapo was, then maybe you should google that and read it carefully. Name-calling and vapid rhetoric is just not productive. It is astonishing that comparisons like that are viewed so casually. Maybe it is just the distance in years for some people or the shear lack of an historical and political perspective. Grow up people and be adult. Geeeezzz

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Soft Sigh from Hell July 30, 2013 at 7:47 pm

Yeah, this “Gestapo” stuff is over the line, hyperbole. Not useful at all.

Why for my own part, for example, I don’t consider the Teabaggers a bit worse than the SA. A useful analogy thus, not hyperbolic nonsense as SS or Einsatzgruppen would be.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 10:15 pm

Well played, sir.

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S E July 30, 2013 at 6:54 pm

I am a conservative, proud American, and love my country. Regardless of what party you support, this was ill-conceived and just unintelligent. Most who hate and mean truly hate Obama and simply cannot articulate beyond rhetoric they google, cut and paste into blogs, need to look at if they want to be part of an intelligent conversation. If you are Grand Tango or some others, the answer will be a string of rants, something with liberal in it and/or name-calling.

If you haven’t studied history of what the Nazis did or the Gestapo was, then maybe you should google that and read it carefully. Name-calling and vapid rhetoric is just not productive. It is astonishing that comparisons like that are viewed so casually. Maybe it is just the distance in years for some people or the shear lack of an historical and political perspective. Grow up people and be adult. Geeeezzz

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Soft Sigh from Hell July 30, 2013 at 7:47 pm

Yeah, this “Gestapo” stuff is over the line, hyperbole. Not useful at all.

Why for my own part, for example, I don’t consider the Teabaggers a bit worse than the SA. A useful analogy thus, not hyperbolic nonsense as SS or Einsatzgruppen would be.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 10:15 pm

Well played, sir.

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Soft Sigh from Hell July 30, 2013 at 7:34 pm

Christy or Limbaugh could do a good Goering imitation.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 10:14 pm

I had the exact same thought when I saw the piece on Christy attacking libertarians.

Our comparison may well be unfair to the old drug addict, though. (Of course, I am referring to Goering and not Limbaugh.)

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TontoBubbaGoldstein August 1, 2013 at 8:27 am

“Naturally the common people don’t want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY.” –Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

Get back to me when Rushbo or Orca say something this good.

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Soft Sigh from Hell July 30, 2013 at 7:34 pm

Christy or Limbaugh could do a good Goering imitation.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 30, 2013 at 10:14 pm

I had the exact same thought when I saw the piece on Christy attacking libertarians.

Our comparison may well be unfair to the old drug addict, though. (Of course, I am referring to Goering and not Limbaugh.)

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TontoBubbaGoldstein August 1, 2013 at 8:27 am

“Naturally the common people don’t want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY.” –Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

Get back to me when Rushbo or Orca say something this good.

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jack_foobar July 31, 2013 at 11:50 am

Apparently you are too young to know who the NAZI’s were, or even what NAZI stands for. What the NAZI’s are ‘known’ for is the “Final Solution”. Notice the word “Final”.

It was their last step, not their first. Their first step was what you see today in Obamaland.

Ask any survivor of a Socialist regime if you need more clarity on the issue- or read a book. Whichever is easier.

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Damien_Son_of_Hussein July 31, 2013 at 11:50 am

Apparently you are too young to know who the NAZI’s were, or even what NAZI stands for. What the NAZI’s are ‘known’ for is the “Final Solution”. Notice the word “Final”.

It was their last step, not their first. Their first step was what you see today in Obamaland.

Ask any survivor of a Socialist regime if you need more clarity on the issue- or read a book. Whichever is easier.

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Smirks July 31, 2013 at 3:37 pm

That is one poorly photoshopped picture.

I for one am pretty sick of immediate comparisons to Hitler or Nazi Germany at the drop of a hat. It’s dumb. The same shit was done with Dubya, and despite my distaste for him, I still believe that it was in poor taste. Hitler was responsible for leading a nation to declare war across Europe and slaughter millions of people. Getting extra scrutiny by the IRS for trying to create a politically-named group that by law can’t have political work as its #1 cause isn’t even a molecule in the bucket compared to that.

Hitler references are the first weapon of choice for those who have zero capability to intellectually argue a point, case in point being the oddly missing BigT.

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Cicero July 31, 2013 at 5:31 pm

Dude. It’s Will Folks. Since he doesn’t seem to get many real scoops anymore (OMG! CSOL is being sold! Stop the presses!), he has to resort to histrionics.

One wonders where he’s getting his money, though. Is he taking money from Netflix in some modern payola scheme? Ravenel funneling some cash for “consulting” which isn’t disclosed? I mean, am I wrong to wonder?

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Smirks July 31, 2013 at 3:37 pm

That is one poorly photoshopped picture.

I for one am pretty sick of immediate comparisons to Hitler or Nazi Germany at the drop of a hat. It’s dumb. The same shit was done with Dubya, and despite my distaste for him, I still believe that it was in poor taste. Hitler was responsible for leading a nation to declare war across Europe and slaughter millions of people. Getting extra scrutiny by the IRS for trying to create a politically-named group that by law can’t have political work as its #1 cause isn’t even a molecule in the bucket compared to that.

Hitler references are the first weapon of choice for those who have zero capability to intellectually argue a point, case in point being the oddly missing BigT.

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Cicero July 31, 2013 at 5:31 pm

Dude. It’s Will Folks. Since he doesn’t seem to get many real scoops anymore (OMG! CSOL is being sold! Stop the presses!), he has to resort to histrionics.

One wonders where he’s getting his money, though. Is he taking money from Netflix in some modern payola scheme? Ravenel funneling some cash for “consulting” which isn’t disclosed? I mean, am I wrong to wonder?

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Nanu08 August 1, 2013 at 6:28 am

How is any of this really helping the USA? Time to grow -up, people and keep it real!!!!!

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Nanu08 August 1, 2013 at 6:28 am

How is any of this really helping the USA? Time to grow -up, people and keep it real!!!!!

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bluedotgirl August 1, 2013 at 11:05 pm

Has anyone considered the possibility that the GOP was targeting Tea Party and Progressive groups? (Besides the fact that all of this during the Bush administration under the leadership of a Bush appointee). The GOP had much more to gain from the suppression of the Tea Party than the Dems did. The Tea Party was the greatest gift the Dems ever received because it split the Republican party. What did the Dems stand to gain by targeting the Tea Party? If I were a strategist I would have fueled the flames not tried to snuff them out.

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bluedotgirl August 1, 2013 at 11:05 pm

Has anyone considered the possibility that the GOP was targeting Tea Party and Progressive groups? (Besides the fact that all of this during the Bush administration under the leadership of a Bush appointee). The GOP had much more to gain from the suppression of the Tea Party than the Dems did. The Tea Party was the greatest gift the Dems ever received because it split the Republican party. What did the Dems stand to gain by targeting the Tea Party? If I were a strategist I would have fueled the flames not tried to snuff them out.

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