WHITE MALE COP VIDEOTAPED “ARRESTING” BLACK FEMALE STUDENT
The Richland County (S.C.) Sheriff’s Department has a serious issue on its hands …
In a disturbing video clip posted to social media this week, a white male deputy (a school resource officer assigned to Spring Valley High School) is seen violently subduing a black teenage girl.
Here’s the clip …
Wow …
What happened?
“The student was told she was under arrest for disturbing (the) school and given instructions which she again refused,” Richland County sheriff Leon Lott told local television station WIS TV 10 (NBC – Columbia, S.C.). “The video then shows the student resisting and being arrested by the (officer).”
Huh?
WIS referred to the incident as depicting a “confrontation” between the student and the policeman.
Really?
Um … our guess is Lott and WIS are both going to have to come up with something a lot better than that. Fast.
Initial unconfirmed reports suggest the officer was dispatched to the class owing to a dispute involving a cell phone.
“She had a cell phone and refused to give it up,” one source familiar with the situation told us. “That’s what it was over.”
UPDATE: The story is now national news.
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Sue his sorry ass. At this point cops should be required to carry malpractice insurance. They are out of control.
I guess being under arrest is optional now? It may as well be because I’m sure she, in fact, ’bout ta get paid.’
Not getting abused by the police IN SCHOOL isn’t optional, apparently.
It totally IS optional. Behave appropriately. Comply with lawful, reasonable requests and commands. No problem.
You know, I never actually heard him say, “You’re under arrest” before he flipped the desk over.
That could be a further legal problem for him.
Context would be helpful. The video is OBVIOUSLY edited between 0:02 and 0:03 and we have no idea what happened in the run up to this.
other than her threatening him with a weapon, what he did was really fuck up.
It does not matter long as she did not attack the officer, which he did do.
I noticed that! Kind of like the Rodney King and similar videos, the stuff leading up to this eas conveniently not available.
OPPRESSION!!!! It’s very real in this white mans country and has to be stopped. This officer had better be fired. This is sick sick sick. You really want to elect an oppressive party like the GOP to lead this country?
Richland 2 uses threats of calling the “resource officer” to deal with students and parents. Phrases such as “blow your head off” or “weapons authorized” are used when you disagree with them. This is not a racial,issue. It is an example of school officials out of control.
CNN this shit. Badges make some cops superior any race and the abuse it out of control.
I guess no one taught her to obey lawful orders from the police…. As someone new to teaching this year, I’ve already had one student attack another in class, viciously beating him. The City of Charleston SRO was in the classroom before I could call the office. Some of these students are as big as adults, without any self control or fear of consequences. I for one am glad SROs are in the schools.
I guess no one taught you the difference between commands and laws. Nothing you can say will convince anyone that this is justifiable.
You need to get another job other than teaching.
That’s fine, he’ll get an other job other than cop.
and that is relavent how in this situation? she was sitting there and he threw her across the room, not once, but twice..He was TWICE her size at minimum..your are talking apples and oranges here..she was sitting there…no one was in any danger…your defense is specious at best
Maybe it is just me but sometimes I think some of these “kids” dumb up just to see if they can get their ass kicked
Odds are the student was told several times to do something but chose to play “what you gonna do fucker card” knowing full well the consequences
In the end school dollars will go to a hen house of lawyers, car dealership will sell a new car or two, a home that has been on the market for a year or two will finally sell, a SRO will have an asterisk by his name and Al Sharpton will be on the red eye to Columbia
Of course there is always the chance Neon Leon the High Sheriff will tell the whiners and moaners to go fuck themselves
No one in there right mind wants to be beat up. I do not think for a second that this young lady wanted to be beat up by an adult. I think like students she was stubborn and did not deserve to be assaulted.
Yeah, but she’s black see. And if you’re black you don’t get the right to be stubborn like your white counterparts. It’s taken as an imminent threat that must be met with maximum force…cause you know….they gotta teach her a lesson that her fatherless home never did.
The views expressed above are not mine, I am merely parroting right wingers on this site.
Have you scraped your Obama sticker off yet? That Hillary sticker isn’t going to attach itself.
More importantly…have you scraped off your Bush/Cheney sticker?
Really simple Quirk, I mean Khunt. Comply and don’t die. White people do it everyday why can’t brown people.
Except for that poor white boy in Anderson who was murdered in cold blood by a cop over some weed.
So sorry. Sucked to be him, I guess. Don’t smoke weed, don’t die. It’s the simple things in life that get you.
She’s no young “lady”
She is in fact a child. Nice try at trying to demonize the victim, but it will not work.
Really, well you are entitled to visit the Land of Pollyanna any day of week
In the real world an ass kicking probably pays out about a $1,000,000, a bullet in a non-vital area should warrant up to $3,000,000 and six feet under will leave your relatives rolling around in $6,500,000
These people may not be in their right mind but they surely are not stupid
What are you talking about? No one in their right mind would want to be assaulted in that manner. The student did not know this was being filmed nor did anyone else. It is a disturbing video of a child being attacked by a officer and you are trying to justify it. What type of person are you to even consider such a t hing?
“These people may not be in their right mind but they surely are not stupid”
and the officer fell for it…
as long as there are assholes like you, the world is gonna need Al Sharptons.
I consider that a compliment coming from someone who sticks their dick in a mossy covered stump hole
Winner – ding, ding, ding.
From a friend, “I heard from a student in that class that she punched him in the face. It’s hard to see in the video but when he asks her to get up and puts a hand on her she punches him in the face. That’s a felony and I’m sorry, I don’t care who you are, if you’ve ever been punched in the face in a fight you know that that is exactly how you’d most likely react too. I feel for the guy, that’ll probably kill his career.” TRUTH. Her inability to act like a decent human being will cost him a career. That’s so sad.
I would not write him off at this point
The High Sheriff of Richland County has a well earned reputation for backing his Officer’s.
Sometimes I feel that he puts too much on the line for some of his Officers but overall Lott will take the high road with them and for them
I heard from a friend – that’s pretty solid proof.
His option. Just how hard does a girl sitting in a desk punch. Sorry, this was out of line.
I heard you not being truthful a friend told me. It must be true..Ah oh yeah even teacher said student did not touch officer. So this is what going to happen since it went viral. Parents are going sue, parents are going to win. The officer or terrorist whichever you deem quantifys this person. Likely will not get as much of a wrist slap. The people who will be accountable will be the taxes payer yet again, until the taxes payers finally wake up and say no more. Then regulate the living tar out if the police to the point where there in fear of job security or federal lock up. Until that day comes and it’s coming you can only poke the side of a animal so much before you get bite. 5-10 years you’ll be seeing terrorist cops on cnn as they do isil.
Sweet child, there are new videos coming out that showing the young lady in question attempting to punch Deputy Fields… Thrice, by my count
There’s 0 videos of it
https://instagram.com/p/9USCrLCnDz/ Check again.
Again your a mole, if you are saying that this video in which she is BLOCKING not hitting as you keep failing to prove. You a blind and there is no attempt for me to argue with a mole. There is no civil court which will side with this cop. That was a block not a hit a block. It’s a natural protection since you brought up how SRO’S saved you back in the day. So you should know better since you got your ass kicked a lot how your body tris to protect. Quite frankly it’s what most cops use as an excuse. I was in fear of my life, that’s all her lawyer going say over and over and she was in fear of her life. LoL your such a mole I smell you through my phone. Ha ha
Or…trying to defend herself from being choked and tossed around.
Yeah the blocking one I saw but striking the cop is a fabrication. Typical scenario reaching for gun, stop resisting. Again I’m not defending the teenager but cop could of did a complete 180 from what he did. Why I say get SRO’S out of the schools.
She could have easily “defended” herself by getting up when asked to for the third time.
Keeping apes from acting like apes is now terrorism?
Well, indeed this is likely the reason why I’m reading a lot of well he’s not a racist. Well I guess the County not the city taxpayers ;>. Is going to pay couple 100 grand to the parents. Y’all keep it up.
Then suspend her. The class has to end sometime.
We would hope. Of course, there have been more than one occasions where Leon sold a deputy down the river for political expediency. Being that he already has a case of the red ass and is embarrassed with the shooting at thecState Fair, I hope the deputy doesn’t get the brunt of his rage.
This SRO saved me and a few friends when we went to SVHS. I had a desk thrown at me because I was white one time. Anyone who wants to make this into anything has no idea what happens at this school.
We are not debating what happened to you, but what happened to this young lady in the video.
straight up, were near people who were escalating an altercation, or did the desk come flying at you out of the blue? i am not accusing you, just looking for some clarity.
I happened to be in a CP class–because I suck at math–and someone decided to throw a tantrum, and there was a desk that was thrown at me…
did the offender get the same treatment as that girl did? sucking at math ain’t that bad, just means the artsy side of your brain is dominant.
I would hope the Taylor’s offender got the same or worse treatment than the girl in the video today. What the hell ever happened to school’s being able to discipline unruly students?
um discipline by a 200plus pound body building beast throwing around a small teen girl for MAYBE being “verbally disruptive” when is that discipline? that’s a bully
You mean pummel unarmed students in front of other students?
It’s not a core function of government.
Drink. #FITSDrunk
She got dragged out of the class by an SRO. So more or less the exact same treatment. Guess what, she never did it again. People seem so surprised when you break the rules –> punishment. WOW. THAT’S SOME NEXT LEVEL SHIT.
we punish in courts of law, we have not devolve to a judge dredd society. lighten up with the caps sista.
And by arresting someone who has broken the rules/law and resists arrest…. Are we to just let it go? Or follow what is expected in the real world?! Let resisting arrest be met with what will happen in any other place in the world if they resist arrest.
ok, we are at an impasse, as a man, i believe there is no excuse for violence against an unarmed woman, i am personally offended by this grown man’s violence against this teenaged girl.
If they wish to be treated as a lady, they need to conduct themselves like a lady.
Act like a turd and get all that equal treatment they demand, instead.
Right…so what kind of justice system would we have if the expectation was “treat me like you want to be treated”? Haven’t you ever watched cops?
Your questions make no sense. Care to clarify?
Are we to just give cops a free pass all the time?
What free pass is being given here? It’s all over national news.
yes, the officer and students were clearly in danger from an unarmed pupil sitting at a desk. Thank goodness the armed officer with all that training was able to midget toss her across the room and manhandle her to get the escalating situation under control.
I think what’s happened here is a classic case of S.C. cops. being S.C. cops. “We ain’t gonna take no lip from nobody boy”. They think they have the right to humiliate and injure people just because they don’t comply. Like the kid in Anderson shot over some pot b/c he didn’t stop his car…of which SLED still won’t release the video.
i was a bartender for many years Khunt, and the best bouncers never had to lay a hand on any of the belligerant drunks they had to show the door.
Fair play to you. I too have been in many a bar and pub and seen the right way and wrong way that bouncers handle unruly patrons.
it is all about defusing the situation, hurting people is bad for bidness.
That’s because cops are not very smart these days. The Supreme Court ruled that departments have the right to turn down applicants if they were too smart after someone surd after being turned down because of their high IQ. They don’t want bright people. They want dim, frightened people who follow orders.
And there’s no better place for that than Sakerlina
I bet your worked at the Double Duece. Did you comment on how you thought Dalton would be bigger?
in reality, i have never even heard of the doubl duece, coming from you, i would guess it is a gay bar you sneak into late at night.
You’ve never watched Road House? What sheltered life did you live?
my foul, i heard of it, jumped the gun on the gay bar insult, uncalled for THIS TIME.
I worked in Vegas several years back for a few months. The bouncers in the casinos knew all the “pressure ” points. I saw them walk people out with just one hand in the right place.
the good ones walk up as an understanding friend boosting their ego as they walk them to the door, before they know it, they are out the door. drunks and teenagers are stupid, keep your cool and control the situation, be the adult.
How was he to know whether she was unarmed or not? Maybe she told him she had a gun. Let’s get all the facts before we make a judgment.
Shouldn’t all students be able to bring guns to school? I’m confused…I get lost in all the twisty NRA talking points. Perhaps she was a “good guy with a gun”…
Still, in the video clip I never saw a weapon produced by her. It’s likely she didn’t have one. And if that fact is borne out, are you still okay with this excessive force?
It is illegal for children to carry guns, you idiot.
Is it? Pardon me if I don’t see tons of kids carting around firearms when hunting…or turkey shoots…or target practicing
It’s illegal for anyone to carry a firearm into school property unless they’re active LE.
Let’s get on board with the NRA and change that. I’m sure some lawmaker here is working on a law to allow full, open carry of assault weapons by teachers and students….to you know..make schools safer.
Holders of SC CWP’s can secure one in their vehicle while on school property, too.
Yeah, but that’s a loop-hole I, along with the other CWP holders can get away with… Not many though.
I know a teacher who carries. When she has to go to the school on Saturdays to set up for science class, she carries.
I don’t blame her.
second bottle of chard?
Nein. I wish.
k, hehe
Technicality. Kids can carry guns when hunting ONLY if attended by an adult.
Or finding it in dad’s sock drawer…loaded…and shooting their little brother.
You’re obviously not a hunter.
A rifle probably won’t fit in a sock drawer… Just saying
Exactly. And hunters, in general, keep their guns in a safe.
Except when they don’t…and kids find them and kill their siblings.
True dat…I was referring to hand guns of course. Or you could substitute those for a little girl killing a firing range instructor with an uzi…or a toddler killing mommy in a Wal Mart. I’ve got loads of these up my sleeve by the way.
Hell, just today a high schooler was killed in a hunting accident in Prosperity.
Obviously you don’t have sons. Or maybe you do and they’re sissies. EVERYTHING boys do is dangerous… skateboarding, football, baseball, riding bikes, hunting, boating, driving cars.
I do have a son…and pardon me but why would he be a sissy for not having a gun?
Does he hunt, fish, play football? Or does he play the violin and do crossword puzzles?
Violin and crosswords take brains…hunting, fishing and football…not so much.
Actually, if you were a serious and successful hunter, angler or football player, you would know it does take brains.
yes..sitting up in a tree…waiting for hapless deer to come eat the corn you set out below and then shoot them at near point blank range takes a lot of thought.
The most thought provoking part about hunting is figuring out how not to get shot by other hunters.
not really Khunt, there has been a big movement in sc deer hunting, bow hunting, it is up close and personal and takes a lot of work.
I’m down with bow hunting. Hell, I’m even down with rifle or shotgun hunting in the old man on foot pursuit style. But I got no time for lazy animal killers that use bait or dogs or hunt at night.
agreed, but coon hunters that don’t kill the coons are ok too, in my book. it is all about the dogs and running through the swamps at night, i kinda think it is cool if you leave them in the trees.
Never mind. You’re not educable.
let your point marinate before passing judgment
i’m a hunter and a fisherman Khunt, i don’t know a successful hunter or fisherman that don’t have his fare share of smarts.
charlie daniels play the hell out of a violin, whats your point?
hahah really? I make a judgement and this so called cop is a bully and it is coming to light he has been a bully there for years
Do you know him? Do you know her?
If she did have a weapon, the police officer put all of the other students in danger. It’s usually best to remove the “audience” (all other students) when a student is not in compliance. Normally this diffuses the situation because the student is no longer trying to “save face” in front of peers.
See..that’s what I thought as well. Simple. But apparently there are those that feel officers are entitled to “teach em a lesson” on our taxpayer dime.
What is she was threatening to use her weapon? Would there be time to remove all other students?
Exactly! I think we are dealing with some of those folks who learned all they know about police procedure from watching TV and movies.
Does anyone here know for sure whether she threatened to use a weapon or not?
No…they don’t. They’ve moved on to hyper-speculation now. It’s the Zimmerman syndrome.
NO.
Let’s not exaggerate! The video clearly allows you to heat students saying “what the F… Did she do.” So we know it was not that serious! Yet, it is still best to remove others from immediate danger. I am speaking from experience as an administrator.
We don’t KNOW anything yet.
Review video again! We certainly do KNOW what is stated in the video. Another student clearly says “what the f.. did she do” along with other students comments. But I admire your passion.
Because you were white?
Oh lord…
Let’s hear the whole story.
I went to RNE and graduated in the mid 90s, I was what you would consider an honor student. It was during the “redistricting” of the schools. There were many issues that led to it not being a conducive environment for learning. If it wasn’t for my computer technology teacher basically letting me live in her class room when I wasn’t in another class I would have lost my mind. My sister ended up going on home-bound because she couldn’t deal with all the stress caused by ill-behaved “students”. If anyone thinks this is out of line they should be witness to the abuse the students take at the hands of other students daily. I’d be willing to bet a case of wine that she had previous discipline issues and is no where near a model student. She needed to be out of the environment and she was removed. Some students lives will likely be better for at least a few days.
BTW people RNE and SVHS are both some of the “better” pubic schools in the area. I can only imagine what Kennan, Lower Richland or even Ridgeview are like.
Have you ever gone to Keenan, Lower Richland, or Ridgeview? It’s sad when we make judgments based on what we “heard.” I am sure students who went to those schools take pride in their education as well.
Silly Felicia…get with the narrative. Black students are hopeless apes and always will be.
Not all of them. Only somewhere more than 50% based on plenty of observation. A few had parents who bothered to teach them respect, honesty, snd integrity. Those are the ones who catch hell from the chimps for acting white.
Some people know more than you give them credit for. Bye Felicia.
An angry Cher posted, “Teen girl in classrm thrown around like rag doll. Every1 on TV saying ‘we can’t see what she did b4 video’ Who gives a flying Fk!! She’s a CHILD.”
The Reverend Jesse Jackson even remarked, “The police officer should be fired and the police department should be sued.”
Jeffrey Wright wrote incredulously, “Student ‘told she was under arrest for disturbing school.’ This the Soviet f’ing Union?!”
Steve Spurrier tweeted between jello shots, “Wish I had that peckerwood at linebacker”.
It doesn’t take a lot of imagination to picture it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EV1l3qMo9Yo
You people are crazy
@disqus_guUeONVGUF:disqus You probably should have left out the phrase, ‘because I was white.”
No, I had a desk thrown at me because I was white. That’s what was yelled at me when the desk came my way. Not gonna change the facts of the case.
Okay then. That’s an important detail. Otherwise, these sheep would accuse you of racism.
check your privilege brah.
Brah? WTF does that mean?
Are you saying she should have had a desk thrown at her because she’s white?
That seems like a racists statement, “brah”.
It’s a South Park reference you douche.
So is Mr. Hanky the Christmas Poo and that’s what that young lady acted like. Well except Mr. Hanky is a respectable member of his community.
Ms. Brown was a minority in her class and maybe the school (I don’t have demographics on had for 2008). She didn’t have any privilege.
Spring Valley is roughly 40% white, 55% African American and 5% Asian and Hispanic
Maybe it wasn’t being thrown at you, was just desk toss practice, like yesterday.
Moreover, resisting arrest is another charge that’s tacked onto your original charge in the real world.
Did we watch the same video?
Did we watch what happened before another student started filming? Because You have to go through several levels before an SRO is called. Let me tell you from experience, lovebug.
To rephrase….if I am sitting at my desk, unarmed, in a public place on public property and by “resisting” in this example not giving up my mobile phone…is it appropriate for an officer of the law, who is armed, to approach me and physically hurl me across the room, potentially causing physical injury, and use pressure holds to arrest and charge me with a crime?
As a graduate of SVHS who has had to give up her phone (I thought I was super sly texting under the desk with a flip phone) listening to your teacher will almost always help your case. You don’t listen, you’ll have an administrator called. If you don’t listen to an administrator, an SRO will be called–they’re the last ditch effort. An SRO isn’t just called “just cause”
To rephrase again, is the level of force demonstrated in the clip…regardless of who gets called when…acceptable against an unarmed teenage girl who doesn’t want to hand over her mobile phone?
To state again, you’re judging one act of an SRO off of a 15 second clip… We didn’t see the half hour that led up to it, or what was stated before the SRO tried to remove her from her desk. I’m positive this isn’t what Officer Ben wanted.
You could be the defense for officer Slager… (to be read in a southern drawl) “Yo honour….muh client clear-luh was in sum danguh as de negro had been a runnin’ away just moments befuh and he had no option but to shoot da man in da back to protect hissef…”
When challenging prejudicial assumptions and attitudes, it always helps to invoke prejudicial anti-white stereotypes.
Took me ages to type that and get the dialect right. I imagine Col. Sanders.
I imagine you as Bill Cosby, preaching morality and decency while raping every girl who crosses his path- the prototypic hypocrite. Your anti-white colors are showing.
Bill Cosby? Really…that’s the best you could do?
That’s the best I could do inside of 2 minutes. Should have used Larry Craig, sorry. You’re more like Larry Craig.
Fair enough…I’ll take that.
pedophile
Folks, here’s a classic case of a troll. Straight away resorting to insults b/c he has no brains whatsoever.
Officer Slager is a better person than the so called lady that got shown her place today. I’ve dealt professionally and personally with entitled AA females before. They are without a doubt the most disrespectful, hate filled “people” on this planet. Look up harpy in the dictionary and all of these entitled bitches are what that was written for.
Your comment really will bring balance to this conversation. Thank you for your thoughtful words..LOL!
Please say “Your Welcomed.”
Miss Brown will never experience violence like this from a LEO in SC. Things like that don’t happen in her world. Even if she did the exact same thing as that poor girl. You should see how some cops treat the constant flow of drunk, combative, disrespectful, white female Gamecocks that pour into in the ER at Baptist on game days, compared to drunk African-American girls on any given night. It so glaringly racist with some white cops that you can’t ‘not’ notice it. So, please don’t pretend that you know what’s happening because some other kid happened to throw a tantrum in your class. You will never know. Not your fault, but you will never know.
“Her world”? She went to the very school this happened at. How much closer can you get to this world?
It’s amazing how we can live in the same “world” and experience it so differently…I’m just saying!
It’s amazing how in some worlds the inhabitants just never take responsibility for their own stupid decisions. This girl defied her teacher, then an administrator, then resisted arrest. No one but propagandists feel sorry for her. If the facts turn out otherwise, as this is a mere preliminary understanding of the issue, then we can adjust our judgments of this officer’s conduct. But at least as it appears, this little nitwit resisted arrest and was in every sense an impediment to everyone else in the room learning. As far as I know she was not injured. But do you think it got to this point in a vacuum? Where police officers are in classrooms? Good god, you’ll believe anything if it absolves someone who has the same skin color as you of responsibility for their own idiocy.
Humm… Now we can tell skin color through posts. That’s amazing I wish I had your super powers! LOL! And actually I have blonde hair and blue eyes! Never said I agree with the students behavior. Thanks for asking! LMBO!
Well then my point was misdirected and I apologize.
If you did to your own child what this cop did to that girl you would be arrested. How is his abuse justified?
Because she’s being arrested genius. She’s in a school. She’s an impediment to everyone learning in the class. She won’t surrender her phone, she won’t leave the class, etc. She has 100 ways out but is too stupid to take any of them. She’s not Rosa Parks. She’s just a pest. No one wanted to arrest her, but she won’t listen to anyone. So she’s being arrested. When you’re being arrested, and you won’t do it cooperatively, you’ll be arrested uncooperatively. Get it? That’s how it works. It’s brutal and unfortunate, and yet her own fault.
If you can’t understand that simple explanation, them you’ll never know either.
Bullshit!
Says a white guy.
Don’t worry. I sure it happens at Clemson too. That just my personal experience.
I saw this behavior day in and day out. And you’re so right. I never experienced this because I respected those who taught me and who kept me safe. This never happened to me because I was brought up to show respect to my elders.
Good for you, dear.
Still doesn’t make what I said any less true. Like I said, it’s not your fault that you will have an easier time in this world than most minority women, but don’t pretend that your good manners are the only thing keeping you from being assaulted by an LEO.
I’m sorry for believing that if you treat people with respect, you’ll be treated with respect–regardless of your skin color. That’s what my momma taught me. I’m so sorry that you don’t believe/practice that.
Too bad the SRO doesn’t practice that with young females much smaller than him. You are the one who initially tried to play a victim of racism in your earlier post. Why?
Because I had a desk thrown at me because I was white… That was the explanation I was given as it flew at my body…
Well, he lost his job and will probably get sued.
He, and only he, is to blame.
You trying to counteract the obvious racism from this cop with a piss poor attempt at racial victimization of your own backfired.
I know of a State Senator that treated a white kid with respect and even let him attend Bible study – and the kid shot him.
Non-sequitir, my friend.
Heck of 15 seconds.
Right. Just let her sit there in defiance while disrupting the class. What’s another wasted hour for the students who are there to learn?
Yeah, that or learn and train on how to defuse a situation like this w/o violence which one would expect to encounter in any high school.
Would you let a cop theow your child around like that? If you did that in public to your own child you would be arrested.
That’s true!
One of the biggest fallacies in government is this:
I don’t have the right to visit violence upon you outside of self defense….BUT- government somehow has that right and it’s “ok” with most everyone.
Jan Helfeld has been very good in showing this fallacy to the general public, in fact, he made Bernie Sanders look like the tyrant he is over it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBIKP4W50-I
It’s a southern thing, got beat so bad by Sherman they’ve become passive.
If my child caused a problem that resorted in a response by the SRO, the SRO’s actions would be the last thing he’d be worried about.
So after the officer beats your child…you’ll take your turn at beating your kid?
No high school aged kid who has been raised by two parents even half-way right, would ever conduct themselves in this manner in school. It just wouldn’t happen.
Oh, it happens to kids from every kind of background you can classify, teenagers often lack the part of the brain that tells them when to shut up and move on.
No doubt the disrespect part can come from kids of all backgrounds. But no kid being raised by a stable two parent household would ever have to have their situation escalated to the SRO simply because they refused to remove themselves from a class by both a teach and administrator. Only someone without fear of accountability at home does something like that.
I have to disagree and I have more than a little experience to base it on. Stable, two parent families generally give a child the best opportunity to “turn out right”. That said, there are prisons full of kids from “stable, two parent families” and just as many successful kids from broken homes (see Dr. Ben Carson).
Clearly, two parent homes where the father is engaged on average produce better results but they’re no guarantee of success.
I remember only one part of mine working at that age, and it had nothing to do with math. Biology maybe…..
You don’t know my brother.
Sure got an hour’s full that time.
The answer is maybe. If she was talking or texting or taking calls or it was ringing or w/e, then yeah, it might be appropriate to take the phone away, or if she won’t surrender it, to demand she leave the class. Don’t you think? If no one can get her to leave, what are your options? Just let her chat on the phone in the middle of class? And even if it isn’t that level of insubordination, do you really want to set a precedent that you won’t use force as a last resort when students simply won’t listen to their professors regarding fundamental school rules? These folks will push the boundaries of that limp-wristedness to their absolute extremes. Everyone will be on their phones in the middle of class.
Is that what it comes to? That refusing to give up a phone or leave class equals a throttling in public view that’s disproportionate to the offense?
It’s like lazy parenting…and just going for the spanking straight away. My kids are very well behaved and they do what I ask b/c I talk to them like human beings and respect them. I have never had to lay a single hand on their bottoms at all.
Police aren’t parents. Should he have hugged her and given her a twinkie?
They would have doled out detention, they tried to just confiscate the phone. They probably tried eleven things, including threatening her with arrest. She refused all of those options. So yes, it might have come to that. Won’t put phone away, won’t give phone up, won’t leave class, etc. It is somewhat disproportionate to the offense but you have to see it in context and we also have to consider the precedent set for other recalcitrant students. We don’t know what precipitated it. She may have been having a conversation on her phone in class. She may have been texting non-stop. The phone may have been sounding or beeping repeatedly. She was probably asked repeatedly to put the phone away, and finally was asked to give it up. She refused every command, every way out. It’s not lazy parenting. It’s proper parenting with someone who isn’t just going to receive a stern reprimand and then change. Not all children are as amenable as yours.
Who are “these folks?”
Psssst…black people.
Delinquents. No race has a monopoly on delinquents, though some races are certainly overrepresented in the category.
Most properly trained officers could could her out of the class without flipping over the desk and dragging her across the floor. He couldn’t even get the cuffs on her after all that.
He should have just dragged her fucking desk out of the room.
Yes. If you ignore or don’t comply, it will happen.
And we all know that southern cops are totally honest and not dickheads at all.
All generalizations are false, including this one.
Southern cops protect white folks from the bro’s.
southern cops…some must have transferred up north according to all the protest going on.
If you refuse to orders of the principal, you are no longer “sitting at your desk”, you are interfering with the education of others.
I know the SRO, I wouldn’t screw with him. Because the video is so short, we have no idea what went on before or for that matter after, but I bet the next kid he tells to “get up and get stepping” will kill themselves trying to comply.
How do you know him?
I’m in high schools all over the state and know quite a few of them but in the case of Deputy Fields, my middle son had an issue at school and the SRO got involved. He was “tough but fair” as they say.
what part of that video looked tough but fare to you?
He told her to comply and she didn’t. We don’t have any idea what happened before the video begins, it looks like it was cut. My experience with him didn’t involve anyone getting “rodeo clowned”. As big a pain in the ass as my middle son can be, he does know when to shut up and comply.
The student punched the SRO. Officer Ben is flippin’ awesome, and I owe him a bit of gratitude. I’m just sad his career may be put into question due to this harpy.
What punch? Where?
In between seconds 3-5.
Taylor…I’ve watched the video several times now…there is no punch
Her hand flies up to his face.
No…it really doesn’t
Sweetie…
Yeah, it does. I see it. Then at around 8 seconds, she tries to kick him, too. She kicked upwards at him.
We all know people like her with the “nobody tells me what to do” attitude; male, female, all ages and races. Passive aggressive at times, just like this. She is displaying learned behavior. It usually catches up with these people; sometimes they get into a road rage incident, sometimes they get told their coupon for free fries is out of date, etc. And they end up “in the system” because they thought it was all about them.
Better for her to find out sooner than later that she’s not special.
I’m with Taylor Brown; this officer did what he had to do; this cretin had already wasted enough of the class’ time.
I’m with the Brown idea of what happened I was an honor student in that district myself and I felt safe half the time Whatever happened to accountability If you want beef you get the butcher and save all your snide remarks until you have walked half a mile in my kicks … son
The news had a much clearer video this morning. The “young lady” was ordered by the teacher to leave the class after disrupting class with her phone. She refused. A school administrator told her to leave class. She refused. The SRO was called, he cleared the area around her desk and ordered her to leave the class for times. She refused. When the officer attempted to force her to get up she clearly swung at him and the rodeo was on. Missing from the video is the fact that her (boy) friend was also apparently removed and arrested without incident.
Deputy Fields will probably be fired before this is over. Armchair quarterbacking this morning, I wonder why he didn’t just drag the desk with the “young lady” in it out into the hall before going “full contact”.
Good point, just drag the chair out. Or…… clear the room, and taze her.
Go beat your kids again.You come on here drunk and all fucked up with your hatred and we are tired of it.
Truth hurts don’t it….almost as much as pig throwing around a teenage girl.
Go fuck your daughter again tonight PIG!
His actions will get him in trouble. He and only he is to blame. He was unproffessional and abusive. He can’t handle the job. Fuck him.
Bless your ignorant heart. Don’t call a “pig” when you’re in trouble.
No..I’ll wait for a good guy with a gun
So you do need and appreciate white conservatives… : )
They are an endangered species….
The conservatives can go for all I care, but if you replace all the whites with Hispanics, Arabs and Africans, ideologies aren’t going to matter, we’re all f’d.
Never have, you apologist stereotype.
You are such an idiot.
I hope not. I thought what he did was harsh, but given the context I’m inclined to say he was within the bounds of his authority. When you’re arresting someone who is resisting arrest, it’s not always pretty. She suffered no injury, just got manhandled a bit. Can’t handle it, don’t resist arrest, don’t disrupt class, don’t be a pest, don’t prevent other kids from learning, don’t refuse your thousand outs and opportunities for clemency. F*ck her.
Who? ni##ga Obama?
Actions have consequences.
As do her actions. You seem to forget that tidbit
Correct failure to comply can get you cuffed, thrown out of your desk, across the room or killed. Next time she should act like a human and not a harpy.
Well shit the mole knows him. Yeah hun you boy toy is finished, although doubtful he’ll get tag with anything criminal. So at least you and your boy toy should be safe from that. Unfortunately he has done simular shady shit in the past now on cnn. If he pulled his gun or shot her well then maybe boy toy would of been another boy toy for someone else.
This roid-raging pig is going to get a vacation until the school’s lawyers have a chance to wait-out the outrage, then they will settle and this “man” will be allowed to resign.
Maybe he was having a bad day after one of his boy-toys on the football team refused to participate in on of Ben’s gloryhole fantasies.
I know the SRO, I wouldn’t screw with him.
so by your own words, you are afraid of him if he feels screwed with.
He said that the SRO means business. He didn’t say he “feared him”. Though I’m not sure a little fear of the law is inappropriate.
“I wouldn’t screw with him” meaning he treats her alleged impunity with the correct response.
Orrrrr…he pummels unarmed teen girls
Uh-huh….. Or something
impunity?
Impunity (n) exemption from punishment. That’s what she thought she had. She was wrong.
she should have believed that should never would happen to her, you are on the wrong side of violence toward women and even worse violence against children
fuck you…liberal women bitches abort 1 Million children a year.
why could’nt have you been one.
You fuckin your daughter tonight?
good, she has a std that scares the shit out of penicillin, your dick will fall off in the morning and the rest of your happy ass will rot and go to hell before sunup.
i know where your heart is in this Taylor, he would not have gone too far, he was teaching her a lesson, the fact is he went way too far, no good lessons were taught by his violence to this girl. look at the boy at the front of the class and the horror in his body language.
She’s implying that it’s ok for a parent to do this to their kids when they don’t listen and pack up their toys.
Cum fuck me daddy!
Eating too many cookies < Committing a crime.
Wow, great analogy. Incredibly stupid and flawed analogy, but clever nonetheless.
He really didn’t go too far. It looks a lot worse than it is. No one was injured. Someone was dragged across the floor while resisting arrest. That’s it and that’s all. It’s all just a media contrived, special interest contrived hullabaloo. And once again, an innocent man gets his life turned upside down. There is absolutely, positively no crime here. When someone will not take orders and will not cooperate with anyone, including police officers, and are committing a crime, they’re arrested, against their will. This is the result. And it’s fine. Unfortunate but 100% acceptable.
He never said she was arrested in the video….
Because she’s a minor they didn’t actually cuff her. Being nice, they gave her an appearance ticket. She was charged with a crime.
Actually, at the end of the video he’s trying to cuff her.
But more importantly, the officer never told her she was under arrest…that’s going to come back and bite him.
We don’t know what happened before the 15 seconds of video.
It will be interesting to see what the testimony of the kids in the class is as the facts come out.
You need to read the update from teacher and students in the classroom. Thus the reason he was immediately removed of all SRO duties.
From a student in the class room that took a video.
This is only part of it. But Ok like some may have seen but, I want to clear that he is not Racist she was asked to leave the class for telling the Teacher no she won’t put up her phone. He wrote her up for being disrespectful and disobedient he asked her to leave the class she said”No” he called Administrator and he asked her to come with her she told him No. The asked her over and then told her if she doesn’t he will call and office to take her out the room. When he arrives he asked her to get up 4 or 5 times she tells him No. He then moves the objects around him and while standing over her he asked one more time then tryed to pick her up but she started fight him. Then he used force to get hands behind her back.
https://instagram.com/p/9USCrLCnDz/
First there is nothing in video of him being “racist”. I see you obviously know the cop, so I appreciate your being as honest to what you believe. The girl did not strike that officer at anytime the video clearly shows that and will be proven that it was a natural reaction from being flipped in desk. So thanks
I don’t know the officer involved in this, and I haven’t written anything that would even insinuate that. She did strike the officer thrice, slow down the video and watch it. You can pause it by clicking on it.
Well why would you say he isn’t a racist off the rip. That would insinuate you have some sort of knowledge of it this some how? But if you live here you should know by now by the statements of the kids in the class she didn’t hit the cop once yet alone thrice you keep saying
The comments I posted below my first sentance were from a student in the class that took the video. Click the link and you can read them there. I didn’t bring up the race issue the student did. From a student in the Classroom that took a video. Then his comments, and then a link to his video which contain the comments. In that video you can clearly see three punches thrown. The information I’m getting locally isn’t matching anything you’re saying. You are playing a game or trolling. My bet would be trolling.
What you getting locally really? SBI involved, the two kids with the videos are involved and numerous people who have looked at thsee video have said she didn’t hit the cop, not one time. She blocked which is resisting but did not hit the cop. Regardless how you or Taylor the mole tries spinning it. Guess what both those tennagers even though I admire what they done was doing the exact same crap as she was playing around with the phone. Lott even said the video was disturbing and that’s the sheiff.
And the rest of the students in class didn’t even react. He was probably her BF or some such. Students don’t generally like people that disrupt class and cause a ruckus. If this was truly a “massive violation of her rights” or he was really unnecessarily violent the teacher, administrators and/or the students would have reacted differently.
No. Kids, especially minorty kids, see videos of police killing people like them all the time online. You’d be terrified into silence too.
Not buying it. It was a mixed class and I don’t think anyone was terrified in to silence. The second video that was posted was by a student in the class who was black. He said it had nothing to do with race and the student that was arrested was being disruptive and disrespectful.
https://instagram.com/_the.kiddd/
https://instagram.com/p/9USCrLCnDz/
Then why wouldn’t you leave when told to?
No, that’s what he thought he had.
He was wrong.
Violently thrashing around a small girl, like he did, is the behavior of someone who is used to evading punishment. She was just sitting their being a bratty kid.
You people raise brats by not raising them right.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qmdWDVfgvE
Typical Southern Racist…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E48QqcTOXeY
*there
If that’s the only rebuttal it you can muster, it only proves my point more.
Refusing orders to physically remove yourself from a certain space by teacher, then school administrator, and then SRO is certainly a romantic definition of “a bratty kid”. It’s completely false, but a nice way or you to paint a rosy picture and make this officer’s actions seem more out of line. The fact is, the way things were going, this officer was going to have to use violence no matter what. If he had tried to gently handle this girl, you know without a doubt it wouldn’t have gone well. She would have tried to control the whole situation. Instead, the officer made she didn’t get that option.
I’m 6’1″, 225, trained to kill people as a profession and often go about armed. He’s bigger than I am, in better shape and carries a gun all the time – why is that hard to understand?
You are trained to be a liberal.
so much more his crime, hell i,m 5’10, 200, and i would not do that to a teen ager, especially not a 100 pound female
Either way Colonel – bottom line now is $100K for her family, and a black mark on the officers record.
Meh, maybe. He was named in a suit 8-9 years ago for “police brutality” but apparently won the suit. He is generally well liked in the school. He’ll definitely be transferred.
Maybe, maybe not, Fields was sued 8 years ago for “police violence” and won. I’ll be very surprised if he isn’t transferred. The athletes really like him because he works with them on strength training and coached defense on the football team.
OK, joke time, I can’t pass this one up. Strenght training, for the regional desk / student toss contest.
First prize is a new job bouncing for a bar.
Have a good day. And don’t think I’m trying to excuse the student – I’m not. I just think there could have been a less sensational way to handle it. I still say, let her sit there, the bell rings, have her parents come get her, suspend her butt for two weeks, or have her kicked out of school.
You are in violation of South Carolina law for distubing schools (a dumb law if you ask me, but still it’s on the books and used all the time). Disobeying the teacher or the officer can be construed as breach of peace which can be treated as a felony and since she resisted getting up she was resisting arrest.
SECTION 16-17-420. Disturbing schools; summary court jurisdiction.
(A) It shall be unlawful:
(1) for any person wilfully or unnecessarily (a) to interfere with or to disturb in any way or in any place the students or teachers of any school or college in this State, (b) to loiter about such school or college premises or (c) to act in an obnoxious manner thereon; or
(2) for any person to (a) enter upon any such school or college premises or (b) loiter around the premises, except on business, without the permission of the principal or president in charge.
(B) Any person violating any of the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and, on conviction thereof, shall pay a fine of not more than one thousand dollars or be imprisoned in the county jail for not more than ninety days.
(C) The summary courts are vested with jurisdiction to hear and dispose of cases involving a violation of this section. If the person is a child as defined by Section 63-19-20, jurisdiction must remain vested in the Family Court.
So just to be clear…you support an armed officer throwing around an unarmed student and using excessive force to take of a situation about a phone?
What’s he supposed to do, sit on his ass and play tiddly winks with her? As I stated the law is dumb but yeah he has to enforce it. She didn’t with a lawful order and then she attempted to resist arrest. The new video that came out shows her attempting to throw at least three punches and then to grab his leg in an attempt to throw him on the ground.
Any reasonable person would see she’s not throwing punches. She’s trying to defend herself against excessive force.
In any event, the district disagrees and has issued a statement repudiating the actions of the cop and he will never set foot in a school again. The police force has stood him down on admin. leave and Leon Lott has indicated his deep concern at what the video depicts.
I guess they’re all wrong.
Administrative leave is SOP in these cases and you know it. The school district spokespersons statement was that.
“Our District is deeply concerned about an incident that occurred at Spring Valley High School today. The incident took place between a school resource officer employed by the Richland County Sheriff’s Department and a student. Video of the incident is circulating on social media.
“Student safety is and always will be the District’s top priority. The District will not tolerate any actions that jeopardize the safety of our students.
“Upon learning of the incident, school and district administrators began an investigation. We are working closely and in full cooperation with the Richland County Sheriff’s Department to conduct a thorough and complete investigation.
“Pending the outcome of the investigation, the District has directed that the school resource officer not return to any school in the District.”
Not much of a repudiation there just bureaucrat speak for we’re looking in to it now y’all don’t riot, ok?
In other words once the investigation is over and he’s cleared he can comeback.
If what he did was ok…why would he be taken off the school resource beat?
He’s not been taken off other than to be on administrative leave. That is why. WIS just stated that it appears that she was resisting.
Is that what you do when your 3 year old refuses to brush their teeth?
This was a high school student, not a three year old. What makes you think I have or even want kids, anyway?
The argument is that same. I don’t know or care if you have kids but the logic that applies is that are you going to be outsmarted by a person just sitting in a chair and resort to brute force when it’s obviously uncalled for? Is that the best this officer could do?
Sure.
Ah yes, because chillin’ on the sidewalk bench while on a mobile phone is the same as chillin’ in the classroom while on a mobile phone. And let me guess, she just had the mobile phone because she couldn’t miss that important business call she had to partake in.
This is nonsense. A classroom is not a “public space” where you’re entitled to freedom of speech, freedom to play on your phone, or various other freedoms you associate with being in public spaces.
Yep, the principal asked her to leave the class. She refused. Then the Vice Principal asked her to leave class. She refused. Then the SRO was called to the classroom and he asked her to leave. Let’s remember there were other students in the room trying to get an education. There IS a point when physical force is necessary.
Taylor, what if you were the one in the chair. If this is how SC wants to police classrooms, we have bigger problems. Isolate her, call her parents, have them remove her and suspend her for two weeks.
That’s not the way the real world works. She wants to be an adult so badly, let’s treat her like an adult. She’s resisting arrest. She assaulted an officer… Soooo yeah, by all means, lets suspend her.
Do you just make this shit up as you go, Sugar?
Cause what I saw on the video was a brutish display of force that was absolutely out of context with the situation.
What assault? Resisted how?
Ohh, that’s right. You heard from a friend of a friend.. Rigght?
IGNORANT MUCH?
Sort of like the cop who beat the chick in the bar in downtown Columbia last year, treat like an adult that way? Your losing your objectivity because of the officers past assistance to you. You don’t fling kids across classrooms strapped in their desks. This isn’t NASA training.
NASA training, Rocky??? Is that what they do there? Sign me up!!!!
The POS off-duty Deputy in the bar last year was totally and completely in the wrong. Not only was he grossly intoxicated, the female soldier he tortured at length had done nothing wrong, other than possibly turning away his advances.
These two cases are apples and rocks.
How can you isolate her if you can’t pull her out of the room? I guess maybe the officer could’ve dragged her desk out of the room with her in it or something?
And exactly how do you isolate her if she refuses to leave the classroom? She had already been asked to leave several times, so how do you make her leave without putting your hands on her? Or do you suggest the rest of the class leave so that this one disruptive individual is isolated? How is that fair to the other students who are there to receive an education? We shouldn’t have to have police in the classrooms, students should know right from wrong and respect for authority should be taught at home.
Apparently the woman in the video punched the SRO…. Just so we’re all clear. This is coming from someone in the class.
Must be some punch…I didn’t even see it when the officer was miles away from the student.
Check when he’s trying to get her out of her desk. Her hand closest to the camera swings at his head.
LMFAO…there’s no punch. What are you talking about? I just see a cop throwing a kid around.
I don’t see the student doing much of anything. I also tend to believe, at this point, he went a little overboard.
I also do understand that the student was disrupting her teacher’s plans, and the classroom and when a student refuses to abide by a teacher’s instructions, and a principal’s instructions, an officer might have to be involved. That’s typically going to involve some force because other options have been exhausted.
Strangely all I saw was an officer of the law doing his job after the student was give the opportunity to comply with the teacher, the first administrator, the second administrator and the officer of the law.
How do you know that a first and second administrator were called?
I don’t see that in the story, is there another outlet you are referencing?
It was from a student in the class. It was posted on Social Media, I don’t have a way to share it here, but unless they made up that one part of the story that’s the way it went down.
i think she was to busy getting flipped and slammed to the floor to throw a punch, really look at the replay, you are acting like a SEC referee
She’s clearly resisting arrest and failing to follow a lawful order. What video did you watch?
so a young girl desrves to be beaten up by a 200pound plus man? really? she was sitting there…he is at least twice her size and is a body builder…if you in anyway think this is okay, well, that’s just sad,,,it matters NOT what happened before…in this moment, this “officer” beat up a girl..yeah he is some “man”
She wasn’t beaten up.
if i flipped your happy ass over and drug you down the street, would you be telling the judge i did not beat you up? don’t answer that, you have already made a big enough asshole out of yourself
No, in her definition you would merely be giving her a strong talking to.
actually it would be a come on
“is a body builder”
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Roid rage.
Ok, so update on all of this folks.
The district has made a statement that fully repudiates the actions of this cop and has informed the public that he will no longer be involved as a resource officer in any schools anymore…period!
He’s also been placed on administrative leave while the investigation into excessive use of force starts to take shape.
Yesss!!!!!!
My comment seems to magically keep disappearing…so I’ll keep posting:
Ok, so update on all of this folks.
The district has made a statement that fully repudiates the actions of this cop and has informed the public that he will no longer be involved as a resource officer in any schools anymore…period!
He’s also been placed on administrative leave while the investigation into excessive use of force starts to take shape and no less than Sheriff Lott himself has said he’s disturbed by the video.
Yesss!!!!!!
Racist idiot. God. South Carolina births the dregs of a nation. You fools almost give Mississippi some class. Losers all.
What a great response. All rage and no logic. Typical from the simple-minded robots with the thought-provoking “racist” charge.
Blah blah.
Taylor your a liar with your comments I can tell by your speech pattern of theory.
“I had a desk thrown at me because I was white one time.”
It’s tough being white! But since you were only white one time I guess it did not happen again, huh?
Dis bitch.
This guy has no business around children or adults.
Again not the fault of the police they were giving permission to act as terror agents, fault squarely sits with the public. Remove every SRO out of the schools. Ban SRO’S from school properties, ban use of excessive force and treated as a class 1 felony.
But please people get the terrorist out of your school’s
Good toss, he needs to work on getting more air time though.
hahahah…I love it! I always love to see rebellious idiots get their asses handed to them. Its so funny, all she had to do was get up. So funny.
I doubt she’ll get any sympathy from anyone who has worked in public education. More than likely the mouthy little bitch refused to cooperate to the teacher’s and Resource Officer’s instructions. I bet she complies the next time.
No, she won’t. She will have been hardened by this and be a bigger problem. This ignorant fuck (as you are) had no right to treat anyone like that. There are many good ways to handle that situation. Blinding, cruel and illegal force is not one of them. He will lose his job. The school district will pay, and you will go on thinking this sort of shit is OK, because you are a racist shit. What if it had been your daughter?
parents of kids, like this, need to have the chit slapped out of them too.
yes because a 200plus pound man threw here around like a doll because he could and he was in such danger and when does being “mouthy” get you beat up by a cop” is he so weak and pathetic he can’t take a bit of sass? Is he so scared he has to beat up someone half his size and not once but twice throw her to the ground and then sit on her? no wonder everyone in that class was afraid to move, this “person” is a menance and your name calling shows how weak and small you are as well
The video is cut between two seconds and if you look at the video after her grabbed her arm it appears she rolled or flipped her own desk in an attempt to resist. Watch the video in slow-mo.
I noticed that. I would like to see the full clip.
I dug up the orginal from a student that was posted on Facebook. The cut is in the orginal. The student that posted it, cut it. This almost seems like it was set up.
yep, and Sandy Hook was a hoax.
Prove it wasn’t
Here’s the Video.
https://www.facebook.com/NathanIsBae666/videos/1701915906686955/?hc_location=ufi
its not cut, for heaven’s sake…grasping at straws
It is cut. I know how to edit video and I know what a bad edit it. It’s a bad edit. Your ignorance is showing.
Don’t know the SRO or student and didn’t watch the video. I do know that if the student had followed instructions from the teacher to begin with there would be no video.
If only people would follow the Supreme Court rulings on constitutional law on gay marriage and Roe v Wade.
Do you disagree with my comment? What does “gay marriage and Rove v Wade” have to do with this situation, a straw man maybe?
Because you’re argument is that we should be sheeple. Just blithely following and obeying every law and every command by those in authority.
Yet, if you’re on the right…you can not issue marriage certificates, you can pass unconstitutional state laws against legal abortion, etc.
My argument is not that we should be sheeple. But for the sake of argument, let’s get rid of the SRO and teachers, according to you they don’t need to be obeyed. We’ll let the students teach each other, would that make you happy?
I never said students get to run the school…but even the phraseology of “obey” connotes a biblical context of submission to authority.
What I am suggesting is that throwing a teenager across the room b/c she wouldn’t give up her phone or leave class is excessive.
Like I said straw man, you used the word “obey” I just responded to it in kind.
Whinny bitch!
You should be really damn careful with these kinds of comparisons. You open your logic up to all sorts of shredding when you find a so-called comparison under every rock to justify not following lawful orders.
If you want to go there on these points, then here you go: There is no law requiring anyone to “issue marriage certificates”. There was merely a ruling on a case involving gay marriage. That’s it. There was nothing more than that. As for abortion, it’s not “constitutional law”, it’s case law. So, even your two so-called analogies are fails.
This officer just cost the taxpayers a lot of money- he probably won’t lose his job for being incompetent either.
Thing is…there’s an insurance fund that will eventually have to pay out an undisclosed settlement to the girl and her family. The insurance the district has to carry will increase b/c of this…and come out of our pockets b/c an asshole cop wanted to show an unarmed teenage girl some manners.
The officer is simply incompetent. Even if he couldn’t convince her to get up voluntarily(and I’m not convinced he tried sufficiently by this video, but in time all the facts will come out), his actions were way beyond what someone that is in fighting shape should require to physically remove her from the class.
Exactly!!!
You’d think the clueless cops would have had special and effective training for dealing with kids before being “resource officers.” (And what a dumb bureaucratic name.)
“And what a dumb bureaucratic name.”
Reminds me of Carlin and his “anti-personnel device” rant on language.
I’m sure that everyone will say he was trained, but then throw their hands up and say he didn’t follow his training- abdicating all responsibility.
Loser!
Anyone else watch the longer video? The child genius who took the video shot a picture of his test result… every fucking question was marked incorrect. Rewatch it and look at the last 5 seconds. I don’t think this was a class of students competing for class valedictorian.
She disrupted class. The teacher tried to deal with it. The student would not comply and further disturbed school. The teacher called for an administrator and the SRO. The student still failed to comply. He tried to arrest her. She didn’t want to do things the easy way. She chose the hard road.
Political Correctness from the liberal school administrators and the democratic sheriff will lead to this deputy being scapegoated by the system. If he had not acted then it would have led to her believing that her inappropriate actions had not consequences. Now, because of political correctness she will learn that playing the race card will not only benefit her but will punish those that seek to hold her accountable.
yeah, that or the cop was a complete dick.
Whinny bitch. You, Limbaugh are a whiney bitch.
You like dick.Fuck your kids in the ass?
He was called there by the teacher. An administrator was also there.
Excessive force is subjective, so let me ask you a question.
Do you think you that any other 200lb man, trained to fight, might have been able to extricate the problem child without the same measure of violence?
I think the student should have complied with the teacher and never created a situation where the SRO had to be involved. He parents should have jerked a knot in her ass a long time ago and taught her to respect authority.
You didn’t answer my question, so I can only assume you agree.
If that’s the case, regardless of whether this child was disobedient or not, the officer is clearly incompetent in doing his job.
Unless of course you think that the level of violence was needed.
What was needed was for the student to comply. She didn’t do that. I wish he has tased her and been done with it.
Ok, as I stated earlier “excessive force” is subjective. So you’ve expressed your opinion that the violence was appropriate.
Here’s what I think is going to happen:
The school/insurance carrier will never let this case reach a court room because they know that most people would probably disagree with your assessment, & they’ll settle.
The taxpayers will foot the bill for this incompetence.
Mark it down.
Do you think a child that was properly disciplined at home, taught to respect authority, and taught to follow established rules and procedures would have behaved the way that this young adult did?
Doesn’t matter. Teaching kids manners is not a core function of gov’t.
Ahh, isn’t it sweet… you’re one of those “everbody gets a trophy” parents.
If they are to be educated in a public institution then part of that education should be teaching them to behave appropriately. If they cannot function in society then all of their other education is useless.
Well, I think we need more context than what we have with this video to answer your question.
But more importantly, I think that the officer has not been taught to respect the establish rules & procedures, nor has discipline and by extension lack respect for authority(his bosses, his training, etc.) as exhibited by his behavior in response.
His behavior was actually worse than the behavior of a petulant child.
Lol… Awe Limbaugh… Don’t get all butt hurt… Just because few agree with your stance… That’s just called being a douche.. Go whine someplace else. Libtard crap obviously isn’t going over well with the “populace” these days. The time for your viepoint is very short my friend… You may want to think about jumping ship… Cause when the can of whoop ass is opened by the silent majority, you’ll be standing in a VERY precarious position my friend… Of course I use the term “friend” very loosly.
Pissing you off means I am doing something right.
Limbaugh is a whinny bitch. Whinny bitch is Limbaugh.
You are a pedophile.
Taylor you speak from experience. In regard to the young woman, the officer gave her a choice before touching her to cooperate and she refused. Then when he got her on the floor she continued to refuse to cooperate. Those were her choices and they were both wrong. Like you said there is no other information about this incident or her past. If you break the rules what do ppl expect? If my kids made those decisions I would have said, ” Well you got what you deserved.” I do not think my kids would have made the dumb decisions she did. If you don’t want to follow the rules don’t bother being there and ruining it for those that do.
Really…you’re down with a pig tossing your kid around like a rag doll over a phone?
You fucking American hating RACIST POS.Go to hell.Pig? You have posted you are a father on Fits.Your children should be removed from your home.
Try and come get em….
When you are done fucking them in the ass?
Here we go again with the anal. Cop was in the wrong. No doubt. Excessive force. Once Richland County pays out on this one they’ll be raising property taxes.
Not worth it, by now they’re a lost cause.
Yep, any excuse at all is good enough for vast escalation with some of them.
But had the kid been male and out just beyond the school yard, there might have been gunfire.
I believe it was for disobeying an order from the teacher, Vice-Principal and Resource Officer.
“pig”, now don’t go all hippy on us.
Cause that’s fair…disobeying = a beating. You must be a great parent.
Likely better than you are. My kids don’t get in trouble at school, maybe because they know if they get in trouble at school they’re in bigger trouble once they get home. Not like your special little snowflakes who can do no wrong and it must be the teacher or school who’s at fault.
Get in trouble, or get a double flip slam down while still in a desk, onto a hard cold floor. Be realiistic – this truly was out of control. School cops, they’re great. I read a story the other day about how in Jacksonville FL school cops have a habit of having expensive stuff stolen out of their cars, like laptops. Great.
Seem more like he flipped the chair over with her in it. Nice. That’s worth thousands, thousands I tell you. Probably end up in the $100K to $150K. Her college is paid for now. And I doubt it’s gonna be USC.
What is really pathetic about this type of situation, the need for SROs in schools.
The problem with this video, along with all of the most recent ones is the lack of context. In the academy you are taught to “Ask them, tell them, make them” when it comes to making a subject comply. What she is doing is considered “passive resistance,” and is taught to be countered with pressure points near the nose, below the ear, and along the jaw bone.
What this video lacks is enough context on whether those steps were used. If they were, he was correct in increasing the level of force, and if he did not, then he would have some issues with this level of force unless he can explain that it was reasonable (would require more context than this video to determine wrong or right). In any context, why was the officer called? Why couldn’t the teacher or administrators handle? This has to be a problem child that was raised to defy authority.
The lesson that most parents should gather from these instances is that it is best to listen to what an officer is telling you to do. You can challenge it in court and likely win your case (after the fact), but if you try and prove a point on the spot or run,
–you will definitely go jail (pick one: breach of peace, disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, failure to comply, interfering with an officer),
–likely get your ass kicked,
–or possibly killed based on your actions.
That is the core of the issue with the most officer involved incidents. All situations begin with verbal commands that people decided to ignore. Agree or disagree, I don’t care. Try it out yourself and see
No he is not correct..I dont give a shit what is taught
In all seriousness, what do you feel like the appropriate response is? How would you handle it? Do you simply disagree with the level of force used? Or that any force was used at all?
The teacher was trying to take her property (phone) which he has no right to do .. If the student is being disruptive then you ask them to leave and return to school . You don’t call the police because they won’t go along with theft
She wouldn’t leave. Have you been following and trying to keep up?
She’d have left sooner or later.
Obama started this shit.Why all this stuff is happening.
That’s stupid. Just a Fact.
She wouldn’t consent to being arrested ? Shocking …People need to stand up to this bullshit
Yes..you don’t arrest students ….. so no force is necessary.
Obama caused this.He hates whites and the black children no longer have any respect for white’s in authority.
That’s stupid. Just a Fact.
FBI connected Ferguson and the spike in violence today.Obama lit the match.Race hustling liberals like you just poor gasoline on the fire.
Funny, I thought shooting a black person in the street did that.
Shooting a criminal in the streets did it.Obama just tried to use it for votes in 2014.How did that work for super n$g?
You are an idiot…when your kid gets pounded in the kidneys by a cop I hope I am there to say some stupid shit to you about being “anti-authority” ..
Liberal pussies like YOU destroyed the public schools.
So your brain tells you that anyone that disagrees with you is a “liberal” … Because standing up for individual rights and property is a communist idea ? I find it funny that someone calling another a liberal supports socialist schools
I don’t support public schools.You perverts have destroyed em.If the girl was white you wouldn’t have cared a bit.
A new poll says the most important thing 18-29 year-olds care about is ‘inequality’.WTF?????Not faith,family or a job!!!They have been brainwashed.
You have no clue what you are talking about (except I may be a pervert) …But skin color has nothing to do with one american assaulting another . At best just force to remove a trespasser would be used is this case once she was asked to leave…There is absolutely no grounds for arrest or this kind of abuse. This progressive violent state is only going to get worse and the men in blue are the soldiers for the state
End the class, empty the room. Let her sit there until the bell rings. Call her parents, have her picked up and suspend her for two weeks.
Black children are being taught to disrespect white authority ….police/school officials etc….
White authority is an oxymoron.
Riiiiigghht…
What if he took her to a closet and said “suck this.” Should she comply with that too?
Sounds like you have tried this before?
Yes! Then bite it off if it is visible.
…. check out my post above
The video has been edited to skip something happening a couple seconds in. Watch the beginning portion and you can see and hear the “skip.” Likely that was when the “student” did something to trigger the officer’s reaction.
Some (many?) of these clowns would defend any white cop for mauling any black American under any circumstance. Some, but not all, would however draw the line at small children, grandparents, the otherwise innocent already in hospital beds (wheelchairs and crutches would still be fair game) and probably would lament their favorite sports stars being beaten too badly. White cops can do no ill to black people in this universe.
Bull Conner, are you related to Michael Brown?
Typical Spring Valley resident: “Will this make my house value go down?”
Let me ask the hard questions no one else wants to:
How many times do I need to ask someone to leave before making them leave? Once? Twice? Three times? Four times? Five times? Six times? Seven times? Eight times? Nine times? Ten times?
(meanwhile students who want to learn have to wait to be taught)
Eleven times? Twelve times? . . . Fifty times?
(meanwhile the bell has rung signaling the end of class — do we just give up now and reward this behavior)
Fifty-one times? Fifty-two times? Fifty-three times?
In all seriousness, at what point can we physically remove someone who will not leave on their own?
If anyone will provide a specific number, I will seriously engage in a conversation about what this officer did wrong.
Watch the clip again…if you think what the officer did was justified…then you have real problems.
In fact, the latest development is that the District has put out a statement condemning this officer and he has been removed from all school deployments and placed on immediate administrative leave pending the result of the investigation!!! YESSSS
My questions address these types of situations in general. Give me a specific number. How many times should someone be given an instruction to do something? I’m not saying there’s a right answer. But not responding to my simple invitation to start a dialogue is telling.
This is a quick reply: From my experiences at citizen’s classes for law enforcement, Lexington County Sheriff’s Office being one, an officer has a menu of steps he is allowed to use under “use of force” — he should escalate his response based on the behavior of the person under attention. The lowest force is his command (stay in your car) (empty your pockets), and so forth. While on ride-alongs I never witnessed any resistance from anyone stopped and/or questioned. But I will tell you that I did get some training on pressure points and defensive tactics, and that SHIT HURTS! I’ll always be respectful and quiet with an officer — but if I meet an asshole, well, you folks know that I can be sarcastic……
You’re about as fucking annoying as GrandTango.
As I stated earlier, Political Correctness will prevail. The liberal school administrators and the democrat sheriff will sell out the officer to pander to their liberal base. Other officers will take note of this and will be hesitant to act. In the end the misbehaving students will be empowered and have free reign to do as they want without consequence for their actions.
Too many parents are allowing their kids to become punks and punkettes at home but they are not “so cute” when they are disturbing decent kids and adults. I would not allow that shitty attitude to be ignored in the presence of my grand-kids.
“If anyone will provide a specific number, I will seriously engage in a conversation about what this officer did wrong.”
Assuming that you aren’t going to get a number, I’m still curious what you think the officer did wrong- given you brought it up.
I don’t think many here are suggesting the behavior of the child is in any way acceptable, appropriate, etc.
The issue is simply the officer’s reaction to the child disobedience. Some say it’s acceptable/reasonable, some not.
When violence is used to combat a non-violent “crime”(such as the ordinance that says forbids disruption of schools), it sends the message that violence is how you solve problems, even if those problems themselves are not violent in nature.
This is not a parent spanking their child over disobedience. This is an officer flipping over a desk with the child in it, dragging her across the floor, & then attempting to handcuff her over said disobedience.
As another poster pointed out, any parents doing this very thing to their children in public would 90% be likely thrown in jail if the police witnessed it. But when the police do it, it’s ok. There’s a problem with that.
The point of my comment is just that — I’m not going to get a number. I’m not going to get a number, because people think it is perfectly acceptable to disregard authority in the hopes that the authority gives up. That is, people don’t care about authority or respect it–this comment addresses the world, generally–not just this situation.
To your points about the overreaction: If you watch the video closely, you see that when the officer first approaches the student she slides her desk back a few feet. Already, she’s indicating she won’t do as she’s being told. In spite of this, the officer asks her multiple times to get up and leave. She does not. Here I have a few more questions just to start a dialogue.
She won’t get up on her own despite repeated questioning–how do people suggest that the officer get her to leave the classroom?
If he tries to pick her up out of her desk, she locks her legs into the desk’s legs and holds the desktop with her hands. What then? Does he pick up the entire desk with her in it?
If he tries to grab only her arms, she locks her legs into the desk’s legs and now she’s halfway out of the desk. What then? Does he pull her out of the classroom with the desk dragging behind her because her legs won’t be dislodged from their hold on the desk?
If he tries to grab her legs only, she maintains her hold on the desktop and now she’s, again, halfway out of the desk. What then? Does he pull her out of the classroom with the desk dragging behind her–her hands still holding on tightly?
Seeing as how many will vote down these alternatives, we are back to my earlier questions. Does the officer simply keep asking nicely until he’s blue in the face? Until the bell rings? Until the school day’s over? Does the officer (or any authority for that matter) just quit after asking 55, 60, 75 times?
“Well, I’ve reached my limit. You win.”
You’re talking about sending the wrong message–so am I. Let’s not send the message that if we resist or ignore authority long enough, it goes away. That’s not a world you want to live in.
And back to my original point: not even you will give me a number.
**FYI — the desk flips over because the student has her legs and feet locked into the base of the desk. Translation: she’s resisting him the whole way through.
“I’m not going to get a number, because people think it is perfectly acceptable to disregard authority in the hopes that the authority gives up.”
Well, after thinking about it I’ve decided on a number:
You ask twice. Once, then if it’s denied, you escalate and say, “I’m going to have to physically remove you if you don’t comply.”
The officer didn’t ask the child twice, nor warn her it was going to get physical. Excessive force is subjective, and when something is subjective and cause of fault is determined, that’s done so democratically(whether that’s right or wrong is a different story).
A jury is most likely going to recognize this is excessive force. I don’t think there are enough people that see her “resisting” as you try to argue and the lack of an explanation of the consequences of the child’s behavior prior to the officers use of violence is going to be what most likely costs the taxpayers money and the officer his career.
Even if violence was the “answer” to this problem, “the people” in general understand the concept of proportionality in justice.
She was already asked at least once by the teacher to leave. That’s why the officer was summoned.
If you think she was only asked once by the officer, I think you need to watch the video again. I here at least two commands to leave. This also ignores the additional fact that the video recording starts AFTER the officer has entered the room.
Neither of us know what was said before the recording started and after he entered the room. We’ll have to wait for those facts. Logic tells me, however, that the student moving her desk backward was not in response to silence. So, by my count I’d wager that she was asked at least three times.
How do you proportionally remove someone from a desk? Do you lead them by the hand?
You certainly have a wealth of critiques regarding the situation. That’s fine. We can all reasonably disagree about those. The import of my questions is alternatives. If you’re not willing to offer up SPECIFIC alternatives, then your critiques are completely unhelpful.
If she’s not resisting, then why does she not come straight up out of the desk when he tries to pick her up? As you said, he’s twice her size. He should have picked her clean up out of the desk. Instead, the desk moves in concert with her body. That doesn’t happen unless some part of her person is attached to the desk…
“I think you need to watch the video again.”
“I here at least two commands to leave.”
I only hear one, with no warning of what’s coming afterwards.
” If you’re not willing to offer up SPECIFIC alternatives, then your critiques are completely unhelpful.”
I have suggested alternatives, you’ve missed them. (and lots of other people here too have alternatives, including “The Colonel” who’s actually an apologist for the officer)
“As you said, he’s twice her size.”
More specifically, he’s trained in deploying specific violence, one would assume he’s also trained in specific SRO duties, like handling petulant children, escalation, etc.
I think the litmus test for this situation is this:
Would this video be used as a training video for future SRO’s on “what to do” or “what not to do”?
I said SPECIFIC alternatives. I’ll concede, for the sake of discussion, that he asked only once and didn’t explain that he would use force (putting aside the fact that I’m aware of no law requiring him to spell out in detail what he’s about to do).
So, with my concession in hand, we’re left with how he removed her from the desk.
How would you have removed her from the desk with specific violence? Tell me where you would start. How would you remove this student from the desk “peacefully?”
I’m not being flippant with these questions. I really am curious. And no more generalizations. Get specific with me. I’ve conceded your first point for the sake of discussion. Grant me the same intellectual courtesy and be truly specific.
“How would you have removed her from the desk with specific violence?”
I never claimed that it wouldn’t require violence, but we don’t know if it was required because there was no 2nd warning, no escalation or explanation- just an explosion.
But further, even if violence was required- the question is one of proportionality.
My contention is that a 200 pound plus officer trained in how to dispense violence effectively should have been able to remove her from the class without the desk flipping, throwing/dragging, & subsequent back pressure EVEN if violence was necessary. (which we don’t know)
You think it’s proportional and necessary, I don’t and would gather a majority do not and given that excessive force is a subjective charge the majority will prevail if it goes to a court room.(for better or worse)
You and I can’t argue on something subjective, because opinions are just that. I wish there was an objective form of violence measuring on some sort of proportionality scale, but there isn’t- it’s just opinion.
“I’ve conceded your first point for the sake of discussion.”
Well don’t concede it for “the sake of discussion”.
Explain to me what video you watched that led you to say:
“In spite of this, the officer asks her multiple times to get up and leave. She does not.”
It’s interesting how foul the language becomes when officers on are the spot.
Not knowing if the video is edited or what proceeded it…I will say if I did this to my teen at the mall food court (for not listening or mouthing off etc), somebody would probably call the cops and I would be arrested.
Uh she resisted arrest. And without knowing what is actually on her that could be used as a weapon (hard to Terry frisk someone sitting in a desk). I would say she was restrained with minimum force neccesary to ensure she couldn’t harm the deputy. And maybe if her parents had taught her to comply with a lawful order then maybe she wouldn’t have been snatched up.I also think its fair to say she’s probably never been snatched up for anything before which resulted in the behavior that led to the incident. I’ll bet her parents won’t focus on preventing their darling angel from getting herself into a situation like this again .. They will probably tell her she was an angel. This will result in a future of many arrest in her future! Good job people focus on things you know nothing about and ignore that the student of highschool age resisted arrest. Has anyone mentioned her age yet? Bet not..
— see my post below
Agreed, SRO’s don’t just “appear” in classrooms almost 100% chance he was summoned there by the teacher or some other administrator.
If she refused to get up and leave the classroom in an orderly fashion can someone explain what the officer was supposed to do?
Once you are told you are being placed under arrest if you refuse to “stand up and put your hands behind your back” what options does the officer have?
I bet now she gets nothing charges drops and lawsuit rolls.
Hmmmm . . . the video was sort of tough to watch – and you are making all sorts of judgments about the young lady without knowing her or her family – which makes me not agree too much with you. With that said, I guess times have just changed too much for me to try to understand this situation – when I went to school if the teacher – much less a resource officer, which we did not have – told you to do something, you did it. I cannot recall a single instance in 12 years of public school where a teacher told someone to leave the classroom and they did not leave – folks just always did what the teacher said. I do not know the young lady and do not know the officer – looks like a lot of force to me just from watching the video clip BUT not knowing any previous history and not knowing the entire circumstances I am withholding judgment. Just tough to watch. Your post goes too far in judging the young lady and her family as much as some of the other posts go too far in judging the officer – we were not there and none of us know the entire situation. Cameras and videos are great – they just do not always give the entire picture of a dramatic situation. Again, just tough to watch.
They could of just let the situation blow over and expel her at the end of the day.
community service would be another alternative, nothing like spending the weekend picking up trash to clear the mind.
Agreed. How she handled herself for discipline would be the factor.
So justified the young black kid in the foreground has his head down in shame. Yeah, an enlightening moment at our SC schools.
Liberals like you have destroyed public education.
The kid was laughing.
Right now this story is lacking crucial info for me to make my judgment call. There’s more that needs to be made public….
Secondary videos surfacing showing the young lady punching Deputy Fields in the head
Taylor, some school districts do not allow cell phones in the classroom.
Here we go Ms. Brown. I counted three with out any real analysis.
https://instagram.com/p/9USCrLCnDz/
She should have attempted to bite his penis off.
If a police officer ever did that to me when I was a teenager, you now what my father would’ve done when he found out? Well let’s just say I would’ve wished I was back in police custody. By the time my father was finished with me, I would be being begging that officer to forgive me.
Back in the day, the officer would have given you a warning, “Son, I’m about to kick your ass”- before doing so.
We can’t tell what happened before the tape began. He may have. But it is safest to act quick and surprise them so there 8s no time to resist.
Yes, the testimony from the kids & teacher will be important in helping to decipher the facts.
The SRO clearly says “Are you going to remove yourself or do I need to”.
I don’t hear that in the video. All I hear is “Come on, let’s go.”
Then he flips the desk over, drags her across the floor, & the video closes with him demanding the childs arms while he’s on her back.
“But it is safest to act quick and surprise them so there is no time to resist.”
lol…if this cop was facing an adult that he was worried about his safety over I would agree.
He was facing a petulant child though…lol…if he was in fear he probably shouldn’t be an officer.
If the cop is carrying a gun, any struggle at all is dagerous. This is especially true when other innocent people are nearby.
lol…not buying it. Sorry. Teenage girl throwing a tantrum doesn’t warrant the response. Most people know that subjectively.
Just saying “teenage girl” evokes images of Taylor Swift concerts, selfies and Justin Bieber. Tantrum fits so well with the stereotype. If it was only that simple. If just identification as a teenage girl told you all you needed to know.
Well that’s all we have by the video. What more do you want? Are you contesting what I’ve described?
What could we say about the officer?:
Elementary school award for excellence recipient with one won lawsuit in a case of excessive force and the video in question.
None of what I typed is inaccurate, & when more facts come out none of what I typed will change.
Different times for us, BT, but the cops knew all the kids in the neighborhood and they would take us home. Of course, we never acted like these kids do today.
Staying with my Grandmother in Mississippi when my Dad was in Korea, I got the lecture from her, and when my Mom got home I got another lecture and a whipping! However, as of today, my record is still no indictments and no convictions (hands clasped in grateful appreciation).
Discussing issues like this with my cousins got us to the same conclusion — our parents, and their examples combined with a loving home was our salvation. My kids and my grandkids have the same, and we are fortunate that they also did not hang out with the wrong people. There is plenty of room in our world for goodness and beauty.
I’m not foolish enough to believe that the good ole days were better than today. There is a bias towards our youth. But there was a certain constancy between the values I got from family, church, school and even television.
If Andy Taylor lived in my town, he would not have stood out as anyone unusual. There were a lot of Andy Taylor’s looking out for me. I didn’t appreciate it then.
excellent points…
An interesting note here, about a bit of advice my Dad gave me as I headed to boot camp. I really didn’t pay much attention to it until later, but he told me that if I was going to get into a troubling situation try to do it alone. Then I wouldn’t have to worry about a buddy being a witness, and I wouldn’t have to lie for him if it came to that. None of my low crimes and misdemeanors to date are on any booking sheet….. and aren’t you glad for me — because I’m here with you guys (and Taylor) …!!
The bigger the crowd, the more mischief. You would think it is the opposite, but the more freinds that are watching the stupider you are likely to act. At least in your youth.
BT, interesting you mention that, because you just brought back to me something I learned in high school! An experiment was given to some of us in psychology class that proved your statement. The more people in a crowd the more they will go along with whatever is happening. It goes on all the time — sporting events, the beach, parties, and more recently the tragedies in fraternity hazing in colleges all around the US.
Another example: my Mississippi period again (my Dad in Korea) when one of my cousins and I had the freedom of the day and night in the city (we were never bothered by anybody) and our moms and our grandmothers only wanted us on the front porch at breakfast!
The difference between us — he was the leader and instigated our “adventures” and I just followed (we are same age) but we never got into any big trouble. In fact, about five years ago I went throughout Dixie to see all of my still living cousins. This one now lives in Mobile and owns a successful manufacturing business. One of the things I told him as we “relived” some of our memories, was that two more years together and we both would have criminal records! His wife was almost shocked at our tales… (heh) (heh)….
i believe you and i like you but you are from a hellish culture, kinda like the taliban, sad, really sad
Hellish culture? No. Early on — think Mayberry. Later on — Brady Bunch. And yes, there was some Archie Bunker.
Padding? I can count on two hands. Mostly at school. Hid that from my parents. Otherwise I’d get more punishment at home. Was some unjust? Yes. But I got away with things more often.
Parents are gone now but my siblings and our families still get together often. Your right! Hellish!
Well, well, well what do we have here. I count three attempted punches from the student. New evidence has surfaced.
https://instagram.com/p/9USCrLCnDz/
I don’t see it like you…just sayin’.
Same here — it appears she is just flailing or trying to grab his shirt for balance. Too quick for me to judge.
Watch the newest video and pause at the beginning. He get’s behind her and tries to lift her up quietly and non-violently. Then she starts grabbing at his hands and arms. After that is when it turns more violent when she starts throwing punches.
My pc doesn’t give me a pause option so I still can’t get it… but thanks
Yeah, no seeing it the same way as you.
An angry Cher posted, “Teen girl in classrm thrown around like rag doll. Every1 on TV saying ‘we can’t see what she did b4 video’ Who gives a flying Fk!! She’s a CHILD.”
The Reverend Jesse Jackson even remarked, “The police officer should be fired and the police department should be sued.”
Jeffrey Wright wrote incredulously, “Student ‘told she was under arrest for disturbing school.’ This the Soviet f’ing Union?!”
Hard to look at this and not think that the liberal hopes of my well intentioned parents and their peers has largely failed. Where do you even go from here, when seemingly intelligent people would put this punk’s “rights” over, litterally, everyone else. And so no one calls me a racist, I once jerked a white punk up by his shirt collar in a restaurant because his parents had similarly failed him. I would honestly want the same for my own children if they act like punks.
oh being violent to a white teen aged boy does not obsolve you from being a racist, just means you are a sorry violent son of a bitch first and a racist second, ASSHOLE.
I can tell you from experience, jerking that punk up from his collar is probably the most love that punk ever had.
A similar experience taught me to respect my mother.
momma failed
I did get jacked like this and enrolled at a private school the next day I never felt it was anyone’s fault but mine it was my first offense but I knew I bailed You get back on the saddle you take your punishment and you live to have a an even greater future I was having a bad day and it got worse when the SRO told me what I didn’t want to hear I’m glad I let him put me down That’s what they are there for to put people down when the mood gets threatening I’ve since apologized to the principal and officer over a decade ago This is my personal experience I don’t deny any other idea of how it should have been but all I see in this incident is a lawsuit and if we could only maximize those all are tax problems would go away or we could join Greece in the lovefest
Your constitutional rights were violated my friend. No need to apologize.
It’s not the government’s job to teach you a lesson about manners.
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Well folks this cop is GONE, he will no longer be SRO in ANY schools and is on administration hold, which I hope some of you already know mean he’s under investigation. Now the likely hood is for himself he won’t see anything other than a termination at the most. That’s just the sad part, now before anyone of you especially the mole here gets excited because you some how feel this domestic terrorist cop, and before you start writing your back butt narrative read what a domestic terrorist is. You’ll be surprised to see what he did was terrorized.
But anyway I’m not here to defend this teenager but there were a 100 things that could of happened. That were at there exposure and the former cop should have done to defuse this and made the former cop look good doing it. But he chose the terroristic method sadly the taxpayers are accustomed to watching. We are the true ones accountable for morons like this because of law suits, again sadly this girl and her family are going to win. The school knows this the city know this and the police knows this. Regardless how you feel until you sanction the crap out of your police and have an over sight committee with full disclosure with teeth higher than attorney general all in which are within the people’s power. So you don’t have cops investigating cops <~~~Really how stupid us that. I sure there's people out here remember the days of wait till you dad/mom comes home. Or if they just called mom or dad up and came to that class. But to snatched a one piece desks flip on top of her and you have moles in here pushing cop narrative of what fear of my life. Comply lick my boots, stop resisting that what people are sick of. This former cop had a chance to do the right thing and like this girl choose not to. Seriously you father's out there watch that video, to me I don't look at it like a color thing you daughter just got slammed with the desk. What are going to do that the sad part.
I can tell from the way you wrote this you aren’t from South Carolina. This happened in an unincorporated part of Richland County. The school district and the sheriff’s office handle this. The city isn’t involved in anyway and administrative leave doesn’t mean he’s gone. That’s pretty standard around here when investigating use of force situations. I’d address the rest of your long post about nothing but it’s basically nonsense so I won’t drop to that level.
We can vouch for Taylor. She’s not a mole.
Lol now your vouch in for Taylor lmao, Vouchin for a mole lmao
Taylor writes for the site you’re typing on. She lives in the community and is very active in the community. Next.
https://www.fitsnews.com/tag/taylor-brown/
This sociopathic deputy is a student of Sheriff Leon Lott school of law enforcement, acquired by him in Israel. The Mossad, the infamous torture experts, have sponsored many of our top law & order leaders with ” vacations ” there. Leon Lott, a bonafide psychopath & international war criminal, has trained many terrorists in Iraq & Syria at the behest of President Obama, Senators Mccain & Graham. At $500,000 for 5 terrorists, Lott should be a multi-millionaire. All government officials & military personnel endowed with a license to kill should have a college degree earned at an accredited college. And when they stray from the plantation maximum penalties will be inflicted. Incidentally, Sheriff Lott should forthwith be reprimanded to the Hague for prosecution.
what happened? she refused to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance?
It appears that someone else had a cell phone too. Thank goodness.
If this is over some stupid cellphone violation, then this SRO used poor judgement.
This video is released on the the same day that the FBI Director claims that video of police actions is somehow causing the police to not do their jobs. What a joke. This video, and the hundreds that we have witnessed over the last 24 months, is simply evidence that sometimes the police are in the wrong. I realize that there are many more other incidents in which are not wrong and are justified in using the full force of the powers.
I don’t think that removing some punk student who may a school cellphone violation with a beatdown is appropriate law enforcement technique.
Another way to handle this could have been for the SRO, after multiple requests for the perp to voluntarily submit to arrest, to simply exit the classroom. This would give the perp and the students the false idea that somehow the perp had won. The SRO can wait outside the classroom door for the perp to appear and then apprehend the perp. If there is time, the SRO can summon administration personnel or even additional law enforcement to wait outside the door with him.
Racist Obama caused this.
If the girl had been white we would never have seen this video and what is this deal with a Black Parents Association? Everyone wants to be equal but we have a black everything. Go start a White Parents Association and let’s see what kind of trouble that starts. OLE Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would be screaming racism all over the place. It is time some white folks start screaming. If this sweet little black child had stabbed the officer – we wouldn’t be having this conversation either by the way. She would be under mental evaluation and we would be in mourning for a few days for the officer and his family. I want some equality here…it’s time we get it!
“If the girl had been white we would never have seen this video”
Does that somehow excuse this SRO’s actions?
if the girl had been white, the video would have still gone viral, no question about it hickbilly.
If the girl had been white, the deputy would have never physically engaged her like this. When white children are disproportionally suspended for the same behavior as black children, then their parents can form a White Parents Association. So no need for white folks to scream.
What great PR for Richland 2. Saw you on national tv and out of state local tv.
Didn’t she learn anything from Eric Garner ?
Obama caused this.
If school teachers and school administrators and the colleges of education that train them to teach and manage students and schools had not forgotten how to manage classrooms and students from kindergarten through 12th grade, stuff like this wouldn’t happen.
Really, is refusing to give up a cell phone the criminal offense of ‘disturbing a school’?
The individual who decided to send the cop to that room to handle something as trivial as this deserves to be on suspension pending the conclusion of an investigation, too.
Parents of students at Spring Valley High School are already reacting to the video. A group calling themselves the Richland Two Black Parents Association called the video “egregious” and “unacceptable.”
Well there is another group at Richland 2 calling themselves white parents association and call the video “necessary” and “proper.”
Our children and all children deserve to have an uninterrupted education from this student or any student that chooses not to follow instructions. Instead of attacking the deputy for doing what the teacher, the principal and administrator could not or would not do, we need to demand answers from this student on her action and from her parents on why she defies authority. Could it be that this student has was raised to be racist against whites or any authority? I pray that Leon Lott does not throw this deputy to the wolves for removing this student from a class room that essentially she was holding the class hostage from learning. If children had respect for teachers and other students and parents were more involved in their children’s lives, there would it be a need to have deputies put in schools.
Lol, well he is finished. Your thoughts and prayers hoping that people turn the other cheek for his poor decision making and his complete disregard of following the arrest mandate that he was obligated to uphold. His own boss put him on unpaid administration leave, that’s a sign that he’s getting fired, the kids and parents who were in the classroom are not saying what you saying on cnn. But I am waiting for fox news to see if they’ll jump on this but I don’t know.
But worst thing for him is the FBI is involved plus his past has been lit up for all to see which is sort of the narrative here excessive force. But I don’t know at first I thought he would just get a slap on the wrist but it’s looking like he’s going to be charged here. Either way his career is finished and I think from what people are saying on cnn, that SRO’S will be booted out of the school or SRO’S going to be sanctioned heavily.
This is how far the officer tried to have the student to move from her seat. and after the teacher and another teacher asked her to leave, “He asked her again, ‘will you move, will you move.’ She said ‘no I have not done anything wrong.’ Then he said I’m going to treat you fairly. And she said ‘I don’t even know who you are.’ … And that is where it started right there.”
If the student had it her way, she would still be sitting there…
I haven’t heard anyone even the students who were in the class, say she was right nor that the cop should have done something. But if your system flipping and body slamming then tossing a kid 6-8 ft just cause she was a snotty brat. Then you hopelessly have issue.
Why would anyone want to be a cop in this day and age? Arrested a suspect without injury to himself or the suspect. Fired because it was on camera. And on top of that a poverty level salary! Sweet! I hope no one wonders why the 911 response times are getting so long.
Wow! When is the childs funeral? Any crowd funding available yet? How sad…
Wow, crickets up in here. LoL I think reality is starting to settle in huh.