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Barack Obama Renames Mount McKinley

DOES IT MATTER? || By FITSNEWS || U.S. president Barack Obama has renamed the tallest peak in North America … but not without controversy. In anticipation of a visit to Alaska, Obama has changed the name of 20,237-foot Mount McKinley to “Denali,” which means “the high one” or “the great one”…

DOES IT MATTER?

|| By FITSNEWS || U.S. president Barack Obama has renamed the tallest peak in North America … but not without controversy.

In anticipation of a visit to Alaska, Obama has changed the name of 20,237-foot Mount McKinley to “Denali,” which means “the high one” or “the great one” in Athabascan.  That’s the most popular of several local Native American names for the peak.

“This designation recognizes the sacred status of Denali to generations of Alaska Natives,” a statement from the White House noted.

Originally named “Densmore’s Peak” after a local gold prospector named Frank Densmore, the mountain was called McKinley in 1896 by another gold prospector, William Dickey.   Dickey’s motivation?  Sticking it to silver miners.  McKinley, then governor of Ohio, was campaigning on a gold standard for America’s currency.  His rival, William Jennings Bryan, supported “bimetallism” – or the use of silver and gold.

“Sooner or later it all comes down to money,” right?

McKinley won the 1896 election and four years later America formally adopted the gold standard.  A year after that, though, McKinley was shot twice in the abdomen by a Polish-American anarchist named Leon Czolgosz.  After initially surviving the attack, McKinley died of an infection eight days later.

In 1917, U.S. president Woodrow Wilson formally recognized the name Mount McKinley when Congress passed a law creating the Mount McKinley National Park in what was then the territory of Alaska.  In 1980, the name of this park was changed to the Denali National Park and Preserve – and the state of Alaska changed the name of the mountain to Denali on its geographical surveys.

Efforts to get the federal government to change the name of the peak proved unsuccessful, though, as lawmakers from Ohio – most notably former U.S. Rep. Ralph Regula – insisted the government continue to honor the memory of McKinley, a native Ohioan.

Those efforts failed again this year, with U.S. Rep. Bob Gibbs of Ohio successfully countering efforts by U.S. Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska to change the name.

“This landmark is a testament to his countless years of service to our country,” Gibbs said in a statement supporting his position.

So …

Do we care what this mountain is called?  No.  And unless you live in Alaska (which already changed the name to Denali), neither should you.  In fact if you ask us, Denali is a much better name.

Seriously … climbing “Denali” sounds a lot more badass than climbing “Mount McKinley.”

Still, it seems as though Obama has once again totally usurped an ongoing debate within the legislative branch of government – appropriating authority unto himself that ought to rest with the people’s representatives.  In this case, the end result isn’t especially egregious (at least not to us) … but it’s the principle that matters.

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128 comments

Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 9:59 am

Oh no!!! We renamed a mountain. Holy crap. The world will surely end now. It’s been called Denali for a long time. The entire alpine hiking community calls it that. There’s an entire line of equipment marketed with that name. It’s the rare jacket that’s labeled Mt. McKinley.

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RogueElephant August 31, 2015 at 10:24 am

I thought a Denali was the top of the line Suburban. Oh well.

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flip August 31, 2015 at 10:34 am

Nice Rogue!

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Hank August 31, 2015 at 10:45 am

Yep, same source for the name as the Mountain. I guess they should have been calling it the McKinley all along, instead of being politically correct.

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shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 10:27 am

A Greek billionaire bought an island upon which to build a palace to honor his family heritage. As he walked with the architect he stopped and pointed to a tree. “That tree must not be disturbed in any way. Under that tree is where I lost my virginity.”

“Aaah, that is so romantic.” replied the architect as he marked it on his papers.

“Also, do not disturb that tree over there,” he again spoke, “because that is where her mother stood and watched us.”

“My heavens,” exclaimed the architect in amazement. “What did her mother say?”

“Baaaaa ..!”

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flip August 31, 2015 at 10:27 am

Flags,monuments,mountains….it doesn’t matter.Obama and the Democrat Socialist regime HATE this country.The above is just an extension of the destruction of the historical,cultural and moral foundations in this country.

The confederate flag is an example. The American Flag will be next.

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shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 10:30 am

you may be more right than you think..

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Quietus August 31, 2015 at 10:40 am

There is more culture and history in the name Denali than in the Name Mt. McKinnley.

From 1975 to 2015 there was a dispute over the name of a mountain in Alaska, the centerpiece of Denali National Park and Preserve. The mountain is the highest peak in North America.

The mountain was originally known as “Denali” meaning “the great one” in the Athabaskan languages of the Alaska Natives living around the mountain, until being named “Mount McKinley” in 1917 following the assassination of US President William McKinley. Alaska first requested in 1975 that the mountain be officially recognized as Denali, as it was still the common name used in the state. Attempts by the Alaskan state government to have Mount McKinley’s name changed by the federal government were blocked by members of the congressional delegation from Ohio, the home state of the mountain’s presidential namesake.

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flip August 31, 2015 at 10:44 am

Obama knows what he doing.This one cost the Dems Ohio in 2016-and a pick-up of a senate seat.

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Quietus August 31, 2015 at 11:01 am

Double plus good then. Triple plus if he can get rid of Ohio all together.

flip August 31, 2015 at 11:12 am

Not until after football…THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY!!! National Champions 2015 :)

National Chumpians August 31, 2015 at 2:23 pm

That championship doesn’t mean shit in South Carolina, they haven’t beat our two biggest teams even once.

Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 11:29 am

Yeah, Ohioans are just up in arms over a mountain they’ll never see.

shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 10:46 am

“There is more culture and history in the name ….. ”

Well, then, why are they crying that they are so offended about being called “niggers” …??

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urbantrout August 31, 2015 at 11:18 am

“Culture” sure…if spearing whales, chewing blubber and drinking prodigious amounts of booze is a culture.

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urbantrout August 31, 2015 at 11:00 am

Exactly…being the dusky-skinned Stalinist he is, he’s just following Old Joe’s advice.. ” to create a new future, one must first create a new past”

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CharlieChan August 31, 2015 at 11:50 am

…um, like renaming ancient mountains after Presidents as a campaign gimmick? Sounds a lot like creating a new past, kemosabe.

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Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 11:28 am

Again with the extreme – eh? Breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out.

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flip August 31, 2015 at 10:41 am

Good bye Ohio for Dems in 2016! Maybe Obama will go to Saint Augustine, Fl and rename the ‘Fountain of Youth’ the ‘Fountain of ISIS’?

That should swing Florida our way.

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CharlieChan August 31, 2015 at 11:27 am

You sound like one of those prognosticators that were dead sure the Supreme Court would kill marriage equality and that SC would never take down the flag. How did all that work out for you? I’m starting to get the feeling you hate America. If you don’t like it here, you should move.

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Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 1:13 pm

He was dead sure that the SCOTUS would rule agaisnt Gay Marriage and Obamacare. Right Flip? Remember that week? We ended it up with a rainbow light parade on the Casa Blanca.

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Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 11:32 am

The Fountain of Youth is a tourist trap. Maybe he’ll rename Marietta as Lazy White River Town. And by the way, why did Ohio have to steal the name of Philly – as in New Philadelphia, Ohio.

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Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 11:33 am

Nah, Trump already ensured Florida goes Dem – you can’t insult 25% of the electorate and expect to win.

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Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 11:34 am

Hey remember how Romney put out the attack ad that Chrysler was moving all the Jeep jobs to China, and in return Chrysler let all their employees who voted 2012 general election to have the day off? Wonder who they voted for? Bet it wasn’t Romney. BTW – I have it on good information that Romney tools around La Jolla in an Audi – not a GM car.

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Nölff August 31, 2015 at 10:13 am

Most people in Alaska call it Denali anyway.

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TroubleBaby August 31, 2015 at 10:25 am

Bingo!

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urbantrout August 31, 2015 at 11:32 am

And most people in Japan call Japan “Nippon”….so can we go back to calling them Nips?

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Racist Nitpicking August 31, 2015 at 2:20 pm

Nips, Japs, who cares what racist slang you choose to use?

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urbantrout August 31, 2015 at 3:09 pm

So, shortening a word is “racist” ? I guess when referring to members of the Crips gang, one should rightly call them “Cripples”

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Bible Thumper August 31, 2015 at 10:13 am

McKINLEY would be a good name for a truck.

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shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 10:19 am

GONE – would be a great name the pissant ….

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shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 10:36 am

Sorry, I change my thought to — VANISH

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Quietus August 31, 2015 at 10:14 am

Not a fan of the O-man at all, but Congress failed to act, as did the Boundaries and Monuments Commission, in these cases the Secretary of the Interior is allowed to act unilaterally as per US law.

The people of Alaska have been asking for this change since the 1970s and have renamed the Mountain themselves on the state level. In this case the current administration did the right thing, this may be the best decision of Obama’s presidency.

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flip August 31, 2015 at 10:35 am

Unbelievable.There may not be any hope for America.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis August 31, 2015 at 11:47 am

No hope for you, agreed !!

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Hope For America August 31, 2015 at 2:19 pm

There will be hope when morons like you stop voting.

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vicupstate August 31, 2015 at 1:41 pm

All that is true, but totally irrelevant to those with a nutty narrative to spin.

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Superfly August 31, 2015 at 10:15 am

You can expect more cultural cleansing to take place while BO remains POTUS. Meanwhile, BO’s allies execute police officers, and chant “Pigs in a blanket, fry like bacon.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/30/black-lives-matter-activists-chant-pigs-in-a-blanket-after-cop-murder/

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flip August 31, 2015 at 10:24 am

Yep.Obama has unleashed a war on law enforcement. They need our prayers.

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CharlieChan August 31, 2015 at 11:21 am

I think it’s more like he’s launched the first defensive maneuver on the centuries old law enforcement war on black men. The white patriarchy is fading… accept it.

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urbantrout August 31, 2015 at 11:28 am

Jesus, what a moonbat…blacks males commit crime all out of proportion to their numbers, therefore they encounter cops frequently in adversarial situations, and sometimes they get shot….common sense, pajama boy.

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CharlieChan August 31, 2015 at 11:32 am

The problem is, black males DO NOT commit crime out of proportion, they only get arrested and prosecuted out of proportion. Those are the facts, man. You can live in a fantasy world if you want, but being willfully ignorant of the world around you is no way to go through life, son.

The Colonel August 31, 2015 at 11:40 am

Maybe if they’d stop smoking it while driving in a stolen car?

CharlieChan August 31, 2015 at 11:42 am

I’m sure they would prefer to smoke it in a corner office on Wall St. where the REAL criminals get to work without fear of consequences.

a face in the crowd August 31, 2015 at 11:47 am

No need to argue with those who repeat the Fox News talking points. Was a great weekend. Mountain officially renamed, statue of Jefferson Davis removed from the University of Texas. Life is good.

flip August 31, 2015 at 11:51 am

It was a great weekend for REAL Americans:

Led by conservative activist and talk show host Glenn Beck, more than 20,000 people chanting “All Lives Matter” marched the historic civil rights route from Kelly Ingram Park to Birmingham City Hall this morning.

“It’s about taking our church out in the streets,” Beck said. He said marchers came from as far away as China, Dubai and the Netherlands.

Actor Chuck Norris, a conservative activist known for his martial arts, action movies and TV show “Walker, Texas Ranger,” marched about two rows behind Beck. Alveda King, a niece of civil rights activist the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., marched in the front row. Bishop Jim Lowe, pastor of the predominantly black Guiding Light Church in Birmingham, co-organized the march with Beck and marched with him at the front. As a child, Lowe attended Sixteenth Street Baptist Church, where the march started, a headquarters church for the civil rights movement in Birmingham. Lowe and his sisters were in the church when a KKK bomb blew up the church and killed four little girls on Sept. 15, 1963.

a face in the crowd August 31, 2015 at 11:54 am

Lost me with church and Chuck Norris. Although I did like Good Guys Wear Black.

flip August 31, 2015 at 12:24 pm

While racist American haters organized by the wH and DNC were marching to kill police officers, Christians were marching to save this nation and try and heal the damage the Kenyan Muslim has inflicted on this nation.

Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 1:09 pm

You were making good progress until you broke out to the Kenyan Muslim again. What a shame.

The Colonel August 31, 2015 at 11:54 am

Okay – time to drop a little reality on your pity party:

According to the Bureau of Judicial Statistics:

Whites are arrested 2:1 over blacks for drug violations

Whites are arrested 2:1 over blacks for Larceny

Whites are arrested 2:1 over blacks for Car Theft

Whites are arrested 9:1 over blacks for DUI

But,

Whites and Blacks are arrested in almost identical numbers for murders (hard to hide those bodies)

Table 1: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/aus9010.pdf

urbantrout August 31, 2015 at 12:02 pm

In sheer numbers, yes… and whites outnumber blacks 7 to 1, so your numbers are meaningless…..try taking Math 101.

The Colonel August 31, 2015 at 12:06 pm

Meaningless?!? Not so much, the 9:1 disparity for DUIs is easy to understand, more whites have cars – the others are simply a reflections of the crimes being committed my friend.

urbantrout August 31, 2015 at 12:15 pm

Ok, make you a deal…I’ll type this real slow, so you can read it real slow, and perhaps understand…you admit blacks and whites commit murders in nearly equal numbers….now, whites outnumber blacks 7 to 1. As a mathematical certainty then, it shows that any individual black is 7 times more likely to commit murder than any individual white…is it really that hard for you to comprehend that?

The Colonel August 31, 2015 at 12:18 pm

I’m agreeing with you, but my point is that the numbers reflect the real numbers of crimes. Percentages are unnecessary here.

Col.Flagg August 31, 2015 at 12:21 pm

See what taking down the confederate flag did, appeaser?

The Colonel August 31, 2015 at 12:28 pm

Yeah, and he just renamed Peach Rock COL Flagg’s brain…

This is nothing new and it happens all the time. That’s why Owens Field is now called Jim Hamilton–L.B. Owens Airport and Clarks Hill Reservoir is now called Lake Strom Thurmond.

Col. Flagg August 31, 2015 at 12:30 pm

Damn.You are a liberal. Carry on.

CharlieChan August 31, 2015 at 4:17 pm

Percentages are the only way to compare the two since one group out numbers the other by such a huge margin. If whites outnumber blacks 7:1 and yet the arrests for white is ONLY 2:1 more.. then you are proving my point! Thank you. Apology accepted.

The Colonel August 31, 2015 at 4:43 pm

No I am not – you were asserting that blacks were being targeted for smoking dope – are they being targeted for everything else too? Before you answer yes, I’ll just go ahead and call bullshit.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt September 1, 2015 at 12:53 am

Just agree with the man. His premise is that black people (and only black people) are the source of all our societal problems. Stats and numbers mean nothing to him.

Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 1:08 pm

That our more whites drink away from home. Maybe if we would just crack open the cold ones on the front porch more often.

The Colonel August 31, 2015 at 1:22 pm

Maybe both – that’s a good point. I prefer the front porch of my neighbor’s house to most bars…

Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 1:07 pm

Colonel – thank you for that enlightening post. Now I need to finish up my three-martini lunch and drive back to the office.

urbantrout August 31, 2015 at 12:00 pm

Of course they do….black males 15-30 make up 5% of the population and commit 52% of all murders. Of course those are FBI figures, and you know how a cracker will lie to you.

Love it! August 31, 2015 at 11:46 am

Sweet! I knew the ‘flip’ character would have field day with this nonstory.

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flip August 31, 2015 at 12:20 pm

The Nazi’s were a ‘non story’ until they started killing millions of Jews.

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flip = GrandTango August 31, 2015 at 2:11 pm

You two have to be the same person. Have to be.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt September 1, 2015 at 12:50 am

Replicants?

Limbaughsaphatkhunt September 1, 2015 at 12:50 am

Yep, he personally commanded every American to take up arms and literally shoot officers in cold blood.

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TroubleBaby August 31, 2015 at 10:26 am

It looks like Waffle House is sponsoring that event.

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shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 10:42 am

The Waffle House and Applebees starting at 11pm nightly…..

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TroubleBaby August 31, 2015 at 12:39 pm

Help me out Shifty one, I don’t get the “Applebee”‘s reference. Help a brotha.

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shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 1:26 pm

Broad River Road at I-20 ….. both were loaded up around 11 pm when the white folks left – I’ve been away from St. Andrews for a while so it may have changed; if it has I retract my statement.

TroubleBaby August 31, 2015 at 3:05 pm

Ah. I don’t know, I avoid that part of town around those times.

:)

I was referring to the sign that the protesters were carrying, which is hysterically close to how a “Waffle House” sign looks…the fact they were chanting about “bacon” and such was just a bonus.

shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 3:42 pm

OK, I missed the reference.

shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 10:48 am

I’m thinking about my comment a few days ago about those Naval Intelligence Officers and their discussions and conclusions ……

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Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 11:27 am

Once the link is shown as having come from Breitfart – all credibility is lost. What a worthless “news” organ. More like just a small organ.

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Tazmaniac August 31, 2015 at 11:57 am

I take their editorials with a grain of salt but they can’t manufacture video. They certainly put that #blacklivesmatter fraud in his place.

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Superfly August 31, 2015 at 12:04 pm

The video is real, and is all over the web. I just went with the first one I saw. Yea sure, Breitbart has an agenda, though not hiring actors and creating a black lives matter march, with police officers escorting them, while chanting, “Pigs in a blanket, fry like bacon”. The evidence of the accuracy of the report, is overwhelming.

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Kel September 1, 2015 at 3:51 pm

ahhh, yes. brings me back to 1830 the year of Jackson’s Indian Removal Act

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Superfly September 1, 2015 at 3:59 pm

We settled this nation, and acquired the land in a variety of ways, including defeating the indigenous population, and when that happens, the winners get to name the geographical points of interest. In this case, Obama is culturally cleansing America, of which he is President. The United States hasn’t lost anything, but you, he and the rest of your fellow travelers in the Cultural Marxist movement are full-steam ahead towards “transforming” the greatest nation ever. You and Obama may dislike the fact America exists, meanwhile the world suffers. Fortunately your time is almost up.

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Kel September 1, 2015 at 4:02 pm

cultural cleansing. ok. how lonely are you? haha! what a loon

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Superfly September 1, 2015 at 4:04 pm

Ok, you hate America, understood. How much of a prick are you? A huge one! What a putz.

Kel September 1, 2015 at 4:05 pm

i understand you need to vent. i’d go crazy in a cuban-missile crisis-era bunker, too.

President Perry August 31, 2015 at 10:24 am

My vote is for:

Mount Niggerhead

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flip August 31, 2015 at 10:33 am

Mount Rushmore will be Mount Muslim.

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shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 10:34 am

Someone should escort Lil’ Pissant to the top of the mountain, leave him there overnight, and let him find his way down — alone.

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erneba August 31, 2015 at 10:43 am

As long as he does not rename Sassafras Mountain in SC to “The Big Booty” in honor of his wife, I am OK with it. Since he has been in office he has committed much worse egregious acts..

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flip August 31, 2015 at 10:45 am

Not to a Buckeye. :)

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Quietus August 31, 2015 at 11:00 am

Speaking of which can we trade Ohio to Canada for something more useful like Manitoba or Newfoundland?

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flip August 31, 2015 at 11:15 am

You sound like Obama hating on other Americans and states. What’s up with you socialists and despising this great country.

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CharlieChan August 31, 2015 at 11:24 am

You do realize 50% of Americans are Democrats, right?

urbantrout August 31, 2015 at 12:56 pm

Yeah, they were all sitting in the audience at the Video Music Awards last night.

erneba August 31, 2015 at 1:43 pm

Yeah, they just have not been made aware of their mistakes.

Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 11:36 am

Yeah, I don’t want to trade Ohio for Manitoba. Maybe Ontario thoght would be good. Or Quebec.

Quietus August 31, 2015 at 11:53 am

Nova Scotia, The Yukon Territory, or maybe Alberta (where all the oil and money are).

Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 1:15 pm

Yeah ’cause it’s your mountain?

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fred farkel August 31, 2015 at 12:31 pm

Hey asshole, I’m sure the President is relieved to know that you approve of this change

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Barack August 31, 2015 at 12:43 pm

I was going to name it “Mount Michelle”, but I’ve already done that.

*rimshot*

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Head up your ass August 31, 2015 at 10:46 am

Meanwhile 1,000 more families sunk down to the poverty line over the weekend. Millions more insurance claims went unpaid and thousands more FT jobs were cut to PT.

Get your head out your ass. This guy is a MAJOR Failure.

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flip August 31, 2015 at 10:51 am

Amen! You got it right!

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Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 11:36 am

Can you please provide the statistical abstracts to support your comments. And BTW Brietfart isn’t a valid abstract provider.

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If the truth bit U on the ass August 31, 2015 at 12:32 pm

You’re still a True Believer…and STILL a Dumbass.

Reality makes no difference to y’all.

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Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 1:11 pm

Is that a No? Sounds like a No. Is that a “I don’t have any facts?? Sure shoulds like a “I don’t have any facts!!”

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Manray9 August 31, 2015 at 10:54 am

I lived in Alaska. Everyone there calls it Denali.

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Barry August 31, 2015 at 11:16 am

I lived in Kenya. Everybody there calls me Muslim.

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Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 11:35 am

Trump says – I live in Manhattan and everyone calls me Dick.

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shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 7:15 pm

Shifty roams out and about throughout the Deep South, but no one dares call me “Dixie” ..!!

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Speak D Truth August 31, 2015 at 10:58 am

There are a lot more important issues for our leaders to be worrying about than this but as long as Obama is dealing this this he isn’t doing anything to screw the country up.

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Krazy Kat August 31, 2015 at 11:01 am

The next President will change it to Trump Mountain.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein August 31, 2015 at 11:05 am


Still, it seems as though Obama has once again totally usurped an ongoing debate within the legislative branch of government – appropriating authority unto himself that ought to rest with the people’s representatives.

When it’s your guy, you say he “took quick, decisive action.”

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Sailor August 31, 2015 at 11:58 am

Plus 1000!

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Don't know your own August 31, 2015 at 2:25 pm

Obama is his guy, you ignorant Fuck.

Why do you think this site is infested with so many assbackward Liberals?

There are more dumbass liberals posting on this site, than the NYT.

About everybody else is America has figured out how stupid Obama is. You’re the last holdouts.

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shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 7:13 pm

“It’s a gutsy move!”

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The Colonel August 31, 2015 at 12:08 pm

Let’s see:
Bruce is now Caitlyn
Mt.McKinley is now Mt.Denali
He and She can now be replaced with Xe or Ze

Anything else need renaming?

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Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 1:10 pm

Tango is now Dick.

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Todd August 31, 2015 at 12:16 pm

I think we can count ourselves lucky he did not rename it Mount Obama.

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The Colonel August 31, 2015 at 12:19 pm

That would be Moochelle’s rear end…

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Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 1:14 pm

Mount’ed by Obama?

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shifty henry August 31, 2015 at 7:12 pm

now cut that out..!!

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Piss On Lindsey Graham August 31, 2015 at 12:16 pm

Trump gets elected, Obama will go to prison. Fact!

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urbantrout August 31, 2015 at 12:18 pm

If you don’t go along with Obama on this, be prepared to be pilloried as a Denali Denier.

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Rocky Verdad August 31, 2015 at 1:14 pm

Well we can’t go back to Mt. McKinley until we see McKinley’s birth certificate.

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Democrat RACE HATE hurting August 31, 2015 at 12:45 pm

The longer Obama IGNORES the murdered officers, the more the Democrat Party looks like it has BLOOD on its hands.

Word is Hillary is BEGGING Obama to admit he has perpetuated these Race-Hate Killings, and apologize and beg forgiveness.

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grandtangosuglydog September 1, 2015 at 10:12 am

fantasies fantasies and more fantasies. Not a single post you put up is based in any reality what so ever. Can you prove one word of what you posted about Hillary begging forgiveness??? nope just another proven liar

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt September 1, 2015 at 12:49 am

No, it doesn’t matter.

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