OBAMA TO STATES: ACCEPT FUZZY SCIENCE OR LOSE FEDERAL FUNDING
|| By FITSNEWS || At first we thought this was one of those crazy far right wing hoaxes but apparently not … the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is actually preparing to deny disaster preparedness funding to states which refuse to acknowledge “global warming.”
That’s right …
According to FEMA’s new state-level “mitigation plan review guide” – released this month – states would be forced “to integrate considerations of climate change adaptation” into their planning models or risk losing access to federal monies.
“The challenges posed by climate change … such as more intense storms, frequent heavy precipitation, heat waves, drought, extreme flooding, and higher sea levels, could significantly alter the types and magnitudes of hazards impacting states in the future,” FEMA stated in its report.
Now … FEMA isn’t proposing to withhold disaster relief funding (at least not yet). But it is threatening to withhold emergency preparedness money – of which an estimated $5 billion has been doled out to state governments over the last five years.
FEMA’s declaration – which would become law next March – comes on the heels of former U.S. vice president Al Gore‘s suggestion that “climate change deniers” should be forced to “pay a price” for rejecting what he termed “accepted science.”
Really?
Last time we checked, all this hyperbolic insanity comes as the case for global warming (outside of government-subsidized academia, anyway) continues to unravel. Which may explain why eco-radicals in the administration of Barack Obama are pushing this nonsense now …
No matter what their rationale, this is pure Chicagoland thugocracy at work … yet another example of an Obama bureaucracy going rogue in an effort to appease the far left. Which means we should probably prepare for an imminent “Republican” capitulation …
Because bowing to the far left’s radical overreach is clearly all the GOP is good for …
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I don’t understand why Obama isn’t FOR global warming.
What self respecting black person doesn’t like a good backyard BBQ?
He doesn’t know he’s Black.
He’s 1/2 White too…. Perhaps he likes a Nice Water Crescent Sandwich with some Amish Potato Salad some Turkey Sammiches Mayo
Box Wine, Apple Juice Some Parsley Potatoes Possibly a FRESCA every now and then…..
Dave Chapelle said it best…….. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–g3PP3dfDo
Dave implied that Black people can’t get “juice” because it’s a White thing. I happen to know that the real reason is they are spoiled children and won’t buy what’s good for them.
I thinks its more an Economic thing but Yes White kids do get Spoiled….. Blacks Typically don’t have the Money to spend on JUICE and have to Settle for Unhealthy alternatives… The Purple Stuff…
How do you simulate clearing your throat…eheraaahhhdddcccc? People on welfare and food stamps receive benefits that allow them to purchase just about anything they want. You can buy dope with EBT in Colorado, MickyD’s and other fast food anywhere in the country.
“I want a Big Orange” (me too by the way) don’t want none of that OJ…personally I think the SOB did it!”
Try again.
Amish Potato Salad! Mmmmmm good! Just add some Eye-tie black olives for me!
YYyyyeeeeeeaaaahhhh Perfect….. I like a tad bit extra sweet Relish in mine
Please, go buy a Starbucks.
Ya wants some of that federal money, ya has to meet the reqirements.
Surely North Carolina and Florida would rather do without before the words “climate change” or “global warming” pass their lips?
They will stand up and scream until they are blue in the face about these issues, but the moment they have to put their money where their mouth is they hush up real quick like. Don’t worry though they can quit any time they want, they just don’t want to right now that’s all!
I don’t think we need FEMA. Close it down.
That’s Right…. YOU DONT THINK!!!
I think you are a dummy therefore you are a dummy I think.
You’re really not sure are you??
I’m sure FEMA is a rotten bad idea. Penning memo to the future President Cruz right now.
PRESIDENT CRUZ??????? LOL!!!!!! NOT UNTIL HE SHOWS US HIS PAPERS!!!!LOL!!!
I wondered about that too. They’ve decided that the Constitution allows it and other laws back it up that being born to a US citizen in another country makes you an automatic US citizen and the “natural born” clause in the Constitution can be understood to favor Cruz. I didn’t think he had a shot legally either but apparently he does.
I still wanna see his papers….. LOL
Can we see Hillary’s emails too?
Ask her………. Tell Fox news to get right on it…..
I think we should be able to ask the State Dept. don’t you?
I think they are
They’re asking alright, not getting much though.
They’re not going to….. favors will be asked and made after she is Elected President…. Somebody will get a New Bridge or Library or Highway….. Ya know how it works… It will be a Big NOTHING
Elected President, maybe…much can happen between now and the elections.
Now you have lost any remaining credibility.
Funny thing is…. I’M NOT LOOKING FOR A NOD OF CREDIBILTY FROM YOU!!!!! LOL!!!!
Get Jeb to ask for them.
Why?
Because.
Because why?
Because it would be interesting.
It would be that and might even be fun.
Maybe they can use it in their debate. Lol.
We should take a look at Jeb’s email too.
And Her husbands?
It looks like we all may get to do that. Don’t worry though he’s still plenty liberal enough for you.
I’ll show you mine if you will show us all of yours. Got any scientific degrees? Got your own campaign pledges in order? Got any outstanding warrants?
You wanna play the Degree game???
“Got any outstanding warrants?”…. LOL I would be the FIRST to know…..
President Cruz…. LOL that’s really funny…. He’s down at the Bottom of the list….. Seriously….. He is NOT Electable… Period….. If he moves any further to the right we’ll have to call him a Lefty……
“If he moves any further to the right we’ll have to call him a Lefty……”
No, he’s a right wing piker and will probably turn out to be like all the rest. You were describing me.
“I’m so far to the right if you want to see me coming just look over your left shoulder”
I-RIGHT-I
Scared much? Not used to seeing a politician give a speech without a teleprompter? Euhahaha…
He is not? Then neither are you, Shirley.
I know we should close down FEMA. They spent more on armor piercing ammo than on drinking water during and after super storm Sandy … Did you get yours?
Carefully… They got guns!
(They spent more on bullets than on drinking water for super storm Sandy.)
Why Not??? If you Live in a Trailer Park out in the Middle of Flatland Nowhere You SHOULD expect an Increase in Tornados If you Don’t and want to Roll your houses onto a Lot and stick a few cinder blocks under it….. You should get NO FUNDING!!!
If you build a Mult-Million Dollar Mansion ANYWHERE on the shores of the East Coast without some Heavy duty Hurricane proofing….. Sorry…. You gets no Love…..
If you Build your Home On a Tinder Box… What do you want the rest of us to do??
Sorry but If you hate Science and REFUSE to take steps to Fortify yourselves That’s on YOU…. … I don’t think Fema should be Running Around rescuing Trailer Parks and Oceanside Mansions…..
“I don’t think Fema should be Running Around rescuing Trailer Parks and Oceanside Mansions…”…not to mention people that live below sea level.
YUP… even More Crazy
Wait. You think getting federal money is a good thing, then?
Confusing,at best.
As for how climate science is supposedly unraveling, are you sure the Vencore Weather info on the Sun does that? Reputable climate scientists all maintain that there are other factors impacting on climate change besides that created by humans. That doesn’t mean the impact of carbon emissions, etc., are negligible. It means they are part of the whole package. And they are a part of the package that we CAN control.
Do some zealouts take it all too far? Sure. But so do some total science-deniers, of whom the GOP has far too many. Sure hate to see you siding with those nutjobs. Is this an election cycle thing, like all that fawning over “The Donald?”
But back to the basic question: If taking federal money is bad to begin with, as you often seem to believe, how is it a problem that any of the money might be withheld.
I’ll pretend to hold my breath until you answer. Not stupid enough to actually hold it.
Is Man Good?
Anyway, there is a lot of very credible evidence that CO2 levels above 400 parts per million is a good thing. CO2 is after all is said and done: Plant Food!
(Apparently plants die if CO2 levels drop below 150 parts per million.)
Both FITS and the crazies in state government need wake up. Trying to deny the reality that the weather has gotten more extreme is absurd. And, arguing that scientists are divided is equally ridiculous: 98 for climate change with two against is not an equal division.
And those two gots lots of bucks from “clean coal”.
Don’t you just love Chicago Politics.
Try this one.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/03/23/3637673/china-meteorologist-says-climate-change-serious-threat/
BS Crap paid for by Carbon Credit selling bankers on Wall Street.
The vast majority of all scientists and engineers, not on the payroll, agree that global warming is not, and can not be, caused by humans. All we can do is wallow in our own manure. The Earth does what the Sun tells it too. And the Sun does what ever in the hell it wants to do.
In reality the world is entering another mini-ice age just as predicted in the 1970s before Wall Street found out it could make money on the fools who believe in Chicken Little. The Earth has noticeably tilted just like it does every 20,000 years.
Talk to those Liberal dolts in Boston about Global Warming. If they don’t freeze to death first.
The climate has been changing forever and will continue to change forever.
It’s the height of idiocy and ultimate arrogance that anyone can think that humans have any control over climate change. Sp of course it’s the liberals going on about it. There has never been a more ignorant and arrogant and so far disconnected from the real world species than liberals.
Like you said the climate has been changing since there has been an Earth. Long before humans came into existence and will keep changing long after humans have disappeared from the galaxy.
Ditto and thank you.
“The vast majority of all scientists and engineers, not on the payroll, agree that global warming is not, and can not be, caused by humans.”….. NO THEY DO NOT!!!! You can not even Cite a Source to Support such a Ridiculous Statement….
As for the Mini ice Age….. I can See that too but the Reasons for this may be Different than you say….. NASA http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic/
Global Warming may have damaged the Underwater Conveyor Belt and may take North America and Europe into a Mini Ice age….
OK, THEN LETS START NAMING THEM NOW!
1. The founder of Greenpeace: Patrick Moore.
2. The past & Former head of NOAA
3. Dr Benny Peiser, from the Global Warming Policy Forum
4. Jan Lieser from the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre (CRC).
5. Study, conducted by researchers from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the University of Washington, was published by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
6. Dr. Steven Goddard
7. The IPCC Modeling Group that admitted their models are wrong.
8. Andrew Rivkin, New York Times Science Writer.
ETC., ETC., ETC. And I could go on and on.
It’s all a bunch of Crap.
LOL!!!!! LOL!!!!! now times by 10 any list you wanna come up with and you STILL wont come close to the Amount of Scientist who Agree that Humans are Causing Changes to our Weather……
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming#/media/File:Climate_science_opinion2.png
I’m not saying the Dissenting Scientist are WRONG…. What I am saying is that the Scientist who Agree that Humans are causing Changes to this earth FAR OUTWEIGHT the Science of the Few who Don’t…..
Lets look at some Qualifications here…
Dr Ben Peiser…….was educated in West Germany and studied political science, English, and sports science in Frankfurt….. NO EDUCATION IN EARTH OR WEATHER SCIENCE!!!!!
Patrick Moore……… LOL!!!! It seems He LEFT Greenpeace to make MONEY in the Family Business as soon as the Money started Flowing he Flipped the Script!!!! http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Patrick_Moore
Dr Steven Goddard???? LOL!!!!!! I don’t even think he is a Doctor…. he has a Blog a Masters Degree in Electrical Engineering and a Bachelor of Science in Lord knows what… BUT HE DEFINITLY HAS NO IDEA OR CREDENTIALS TO SPEAK ON GLOBAL WARMING/CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!
The IPCC????? Those Idiots were Paid off by the AEI the American Enterprise Institute who was In Turn paid off by EXXON MOBILE
In February 2007, The Guardian reported that the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) think tank was offering scientists and economists $10,000 each, “to undermine a major climate change report” from the IPCC. AEI asked for “articles that emphasise the shortcomings” of the IPCC report, which “is widely regarded as the most comprehensive review yet of climate change science.” AEI visiting scholar Kenneth Green made the $10,000 offer “to scientists in Britain, the US and elsewhere,” in a letter describing the IPCC as “resistant to reasonable criticism and dissent.” [2]
AEI “has received more than $1.6m from ExxonMobil, and more than 20 of its staff have worked as consultants to the Bush administration. Lee Raymond, a former head of ExxonMobil, is the vice-chairman of AEI’s board of trustees,” added The Guardian
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Intergovernmental_Panel_on_Climate_Change
Andrew Rivkin????? LOL he has an Associates Degree in Biology and a Masters in Journalism…… Sounds like Hes and Expert….. NNNNNOOOOOTTTTT
Did you even Research the dudes you posted????? PERSONA NON GRATA!!!!!!
Come back when you have somebody with Credentials….. TEN TIMES IT BY 1000
Back peddling and changing you arguments = the sure sign of a retarded, clueless scientist-wannabe.
Where did I change my Argument????
Ridiculous, I could have added many many more. Including 650 scientist that protested the entire Global Warming conference in Poland. Nobody believes this crap except foolish people who stick their heads in the sand.
Everyone promoting this crap is being paid to do so. Everyone.
Name anyone who is not directly funded by carbon credits and political pressure applied by Wall Street Bankers peddling Carbon Credits that says this junk is real.
“… Dr Ben Peiser…….was educated in West Germany and studied political science, English, and sports science in Frankfurt….. NO EDUCATION IN EARTH OR WEATHER SCIENCE! …”
So, what are your creds? Got a degree? Any degree? Want one?
What degrees would you accept as credible for weather prediction or climate change studies? How about Aeronautical or Mechanical Engineering? Physics of Fluid Dynamics? Computer Math?
B_Mc: You an all to obvious tool of Gruberment. Your obfuscations and multiple layering of shortened posts to fill out this rather simple question.
Repeating: “Never in history has raising taxes changed the weather.”
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2007/feb/02/frontpagenews.climatechange
http://www.bulldogreporter.com/dailydog/article/exxon-linked-pr-pay-oil-giant-sponsored-think-tank-offers-scientists-10000-criticiz
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/American_Enterprise_Institute
The ICCP???? LOL!!!!
ALL of your citations are more than seven years old and have been withdrawn.
Cite your Source…….
What? Again?
Take a look at this: https://youtu.be/4Ew05sRDAcU
(Many citations, sources in links below video = 90 citations plus 125 links to support information … read ’em and weep.)
Not True, and their are many more out recently.
… IPCC has recently admitted that ALL of their computer models are wrong.
There is a famous quote by George Box: All models are wrong. Some are useful.
When I see comments like this, I just want to cringe about the overall scientific skill of the US population.
Please don’t opine on stuf you don’t know. You might get called out on it.
Wikipedia on George Box … Too cool!
Cringe away. Bad data + bad algorithm = bad results, no matter how stupid or scary.
Bad Reasoning + Juvenile Scientific Understanding = Moronic Statements
Yes They Do!
Citing a credible source: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dCrkqLaYjnc
LOL!!! Patrick Moore…. Soon as he started making money in the Family Logging and Mining Business he Turned his back on everything he Believed in…… Money will do that to ya
Now, you changed the argument again … To what? Cast a dispersion on one of my credible sources.
If you want to argue about the global worms, we can do that: take a close look at the photo at the top … LOL
Your Source is not Credible that is my whole Point….. I cant take this Guy Seriously….. He has No Conviction….
So, you are the only one here with convictions? How many? And what for?
Nope….. I see a lot of people here with Conviction….. I never seen so many people that seem to think STUPID is a Virtue….. I Guess that’s Life in REDSTATISTAN…..
“The vast majority of all scientists and engineers, not on the payroll, agree that global warming is not, and can not be, caused by humans”.
If you call 3% of climatologists, who are the people in the know about the various forcings causing earth temperature fluctuations, the majority, then you would be right:
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
BTW, it was 86 here in Denver the other day, setting an all time March record high. My point: you should learn the difference between weather and climate.
BTW it was the snowiest time in history in Boston.
Also, Weather and Climate are greatly effected by the wobble of the Earth. Which is now in the middle of a period every 20,000 years of this wobble occurring. Star location changes in Alaska have already been studied to verify this as a fact.
We are also in the beginning of a polarity change in the Earth’s magnetic field. This can cause massive disruption and temperature changes on Earth.
These 2 items alone can cause the climate changes we are seeing today. The Earth’s climate has always changed. It changes every day. No human effort can effect it: only in very localize areas. Remember the Ozone holes, and Y2K??
There is a difference too between Weather, Climate and Astrological Movements. Learn the differences.
That’s way to much information for your average Warmonger.
Well ELCID, I’ll be sure to invite you out here to the National Center for Atmospheric Research where you can lecture us on the topic. But you better bring your A game: the folks here are pretty cognizant about Milkanovich cycles, volcanic forcings, carbon dioxide, etc.
86 in Denver is not even a record. “Coldest March since 1984 in New England.” “Most snow in Boston since … ” ever.
Biggest ice /snow storm in Chicago since 11,000 BC.
http://www.desdemonadespair.net/2015/03/denver-records-earliest-80-degree.html
God you are so easy to contradict. The Denver record the other day was 81. I stand corrected. Somebody did get to 86 out here.
The Top 10 States that received THE MOST in Disaster Relief are the Same Top 10 states that sent the Most Climate Change/ Global Warming Deniers to Washington as Senators and Representatives…..
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/green/report/2013/09/12/73895/states-of-denial-states-with-the-most-federal-disaster-aid-sent-climate-science-deniers-to-congress-2/
What is the next outrage?
Will EPA demand that some consideration in planning and contingencies be given to the possibility (the science sorcerers say “eventual probability”) of floods and droughts when it grants money for big new riverside water and wastewater treatment plants and their facilitated development.
Why how “pie in the sky” and unproved theoretical. How dare them. Can they “prooooove” that these will happen?
“Wha AHHHH thinks . . . .”
Do you ever get the impression that perhaps America’s prolonged slow decline is in part due to the relatively modern phenomenon that every uninformed dullard “thinks”–and out loud–that his completely uninformed (or FOXinformed) blathering should hold the same weight and attention as the opinions and conclusions and often consensus of those who deeply and seriously study the subjects?
What’s all this liberal obsession with FOX news ? Seriously, people…enjoy the spring weather…relax …wag more…bark less…
What’s all this conservative obsession with science? Gag more . . . choke less.
How dare the EPA and FEMA require states asking for grant funds to make contingency plans to fight climate change tell them how the states plan to spend the grant money?
Can repukes possibly be anymore disingenuous and irrational than this? Of course this “libertarian” website goes right along with the repuke meme outrage of the week.
National Geographic says Mars is warming also:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html
Maybe we caused that also?
Dr. Patrick Moore, co-founder of Green Peace on climate change and the global worms … https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dCrkqLaYjnc
… Jus sayin
Science is not about your beliefs
This is the smartest thing FEMA could do, and as a “fiscal conservative,” you should embrace it because it will be the taxpayers who are asked to bail out property owners whose homes are threatened by rising sea levels. Granted, I doubt we’ll have the money to bail them out, but it’s better for us and them to avoid the problem in the first place.
There’s a piece of Lowcountry history that is rarely talked about in the media, but illustrates this perfectly. In 1992, there was an important Supreme Court decision, Lucas vs. South Carolina Coastal Commission. The justices decided that the state could not move back its no-build line farther from the ocean because Lucas would lose the value of his beachfront property in the Wild Dunes area on Isle of Palms. Fast forward to the present, and those houses he built (in the Beachwood East subdivision) are surrounded by sand bags, which deteriorate and cause problems for everyone else. FEMA is trying to prevent this problem from happening on a massive scale. And also, if those houses in Wild Dunes get swept into the sea during the next hurricane, guess who will be expected to help pay for them?
Sorry, Lucas v. S.C. Coastal Commission said the state could not keep Lucas from building on his property because it would cause a total loss in value of his property. That’s a little different than what I wrote. (Too early in the A.M.) The no-build line still moved, but Lucas was allowed to build his houses, which are now nearly gone because of predictable erosion.
DEFUND FEMA NOW, block grant states and Red Cross for disaster operations, witness the witless FEMA responses to Katrina, Sandi and intervening storms. FEMA doesn’t need its SWAT squads, local agencies and FBI hostage roasting team do it better.
Latest: FEMA global worms may short change those states that remain “deniers”. (Drudge headlines today.)
Do those states still have to pay fed taxes?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/10916086/The-scandal-of-fiddled-global-warming-data.html
…in recent years, NOAA’s US Historical Climatology Network (USHCN) has been “adjusting” its record by replacing real temperatures with data “fabricated” by computer models. The effect of this has been to downgrade earlier temperatures and to exaggerate those from recent decades, to give the impression that the Earth has been warming up much more than is justified by the actual data.