National Politics - 2016

Jeb Bush’s Campaign Will Cost Chris Christie, Marco Rubio

AND LIKELY HELP RAND PAUL …  By FITSNEWS  ||  We won’t be supporting former Florida governor Jeb Bush, New Jersey governor Chris Christie or U.S. Senator Marco Rubio for president in 2016.  Sure, there are things about all three politicians we like, but at the end of the day each one of them – even…

AND LIKELY HELP RAND PAUL … 

By FITSNEWS  ||  We won’t be supporting former Florida governor Jeb Bush, New Jersey governor Chris Christie or U.S. Senator Marco Rubio for president in 2016.  Sure, there are things about all three politicians we like, but at the end of the day each one of them – even the “Tea Partier” Rubio – are “establishment Republicans.”  Which means they aren’t ever going to support the kind of drastic, immediate reform – nay, reinvention – America needs if it hopes to escape its current terminal velocity.

Desperate times really do call for desperate measures … or in this case the sort of simple free market, pro-freedom solutions both “establishment” parties refuse to embrace.

Anyway, with Bush’s unofficial entry into the 2016 race last week it’s worth taking a look at where he stands – and how his candidacy could impact the race.

According to a new Washington Post/ ABC News poll, Bush starts as a fragile frontrunner – pulling 15 percent of “Republican” leaners in a race that does not feature former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney.  Tied for second place?  U.S. Senator Rand Paul and former GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan – who both drew 11 percent support.  Behind them?  Christie and U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (at eight percent apiece), neurosurgeon/ author Ben Carson (7 percent) and three candidates at six percent (Rubio, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee and Wisconsin governor Scott Walker).

Not exactly an inspiring field is it?  No but neither was the GOP field in 2008 or 2012 – which labored to produce nominees who might as well have been Democrats.

In fact if Bush were to prevail as the “Republican” nominee next year, he’d be the third straight establishment pick – not to mention the candidate with the lowest level of support against likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

Which means Democrats are hoping he wins …

Who isn’t happy about Bush jumping into the race, though?  Christie and Rubio.

Christie was the GOP establishment’s top choice heading into 2014, but the George Washington Bridge scandal derailed him … and the hits just keep-a-coming.  In fact Bush’s emergence as an establishment frontrunner is due in large part to Christie’s flop.

Rubio?  With Bush in the race, his support in Florida would all but evaporate – as documented in detail by a recent story in The Tampa Bay Times.

“Even if Rubio proceeds … Bush presents major obstacles that underscore his status as the undisputed king of Florida Republicans,” the Times story noted.  “Bush would command the loyalty of top donors and the support of the political establishment.”

Rubio is pressing on, though … looking to lead “Republican” opposition to U.S. president Barack Obama‘s recently announced shift in Cuba policy.

So … who would benefit from Bush’s entry?  Rand Paul – who along with Cruz appears to be best-positioned within the “Republican” tent to provide an ideological alternative to the status quo forces backing Bush.

“It cleans the race up nicely,” one GOP consultant supporting Paul told FITS. “Effectively makes it a two-man battle.”

Well … a three-man battle.  Don’t forget about the social conservative wing of the GOP, which will likely pick Huckabee or former U.S. senator Rick Santorum to carry its banner (especially in early-voting states like Iowa and South Carolina).

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59 comments

Nostradumbass December 22, 2014 at 2:07 pm

Rubio takes a dick in every hole. Not only does he lose Florida, he also loses the runner up battle for the VP slot because the GOP needs a VP from a swing state.

Jeb is always strokin’ it to the “contenders”.

The GOP will always be an establishment tool, period.

If Warren wins the mud wrestlin’ match between her and Hillary I predict she looks like more of a man than Bush the Fatter…but who gets elected will be entirely dependant on what the economy is doing. If it’s good, Dems win…if not…GOP has a shot even though it’s demographics are bad.

The winner will be the one the people hate less…and the economy will decide which person/party is the object of their hate.

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grandtangosuglydog December 22, 2014 at 2:50 pm

Great name. Nostro..pretty legitimate comment as well.

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The Colonel December 22, 2014 at 2:19 pm

“….Jeb Bush’s Campaign Will Cost Chris Christie, Marco Rubio…”

Okay – so what’s the down side?

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Tazmaniac December 22, 2014 at 4:34 pm

I’m almost ashamed to say I admired Rubio he first came on the National scene. I guess i was just nostalgic from the many fine Cuban friends I’ve had the pleasure of meeting during my time in the State of my birth and raising. Fortunately, I had never really had many dealings with the low life scum Castro unleashed on us.

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Guest December 22, 2014 at 2:48 pm

Not sure how he makes it through the primaries..the primaries tend to favor a more far right candidate. He is also fairly intelligent, and can work across the aisle to get things doe.. which also doesnt bode well for the GOP primaries.

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grandtangosuglydog December 23, 2014 at 10:40 am

this is me…this is me…this is me!!!…ha ha ha…i am nuts!!!

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grandtangosuglydog December 22, 2014 at 2:49 pm

Not sure how he makes it through the primaries..the primaries tend to favor a more far right candidate. He is also fairly intelligent, and can work across the aisle to get things done.. which also doesn’t bode well for the GOP primaries.

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Flip Coscoe December 23, 2014 at 8:23 am

What a dumbass, pussy and fraud you are.You posted the SAME comment under TWO different names on this SAME thread!

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grandtangosuglydog December 23, 2014 at 10:10 am

you obviously are the stupidest mother fucker on this site..as your comments state daily with your partisan rage and anal sex obsession..since you cant edit a comment if you notice a grammatical error you have to cut and paste it into a new comment..some glitch wont erase the previous comment and posts it as guests..you really due give stupid people a bad name flip/sandi/grand asshat and i guess after my last ass whoopin you gave up on pogo huh? you fucking tool.

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Flip Coscoe December 23, 2014 at 10:28 am

What a stupid ass excuse by a delusional stalker in regards to an ‘edit’. You have a Disqus account-why can’t you edit moron?

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grandtangosuglydog December 23, 2014 at 10:13 am

ahhh internet tough guy…the biggest pussy of them all as he hides behind his keyboard and talks tough (well usually about anal sex and obama but occasionally tries to sound manly…lololoool..obviously because in real life you are a meek little person who is afraid of his own shadow huh flip/grandasshat/sandi and the whipped pogo..you fucking tool.

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lol December 22, 2014 at 3:12 pm

Republican presidential primaries are some fine entertainment. They should have them every year.

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Flip Coscoe December 23, 2014 at 8:25 am

Democrat primaries are better. Where else can you watch communists, perverts and ugly women debate who hates America more?

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grandtangosuglydog December 23, 2014 at 10:11 am

or as the gop goes..who likes sex with little boys in airport bathrooms more..see i can make stupid ass comments like yours..weee fun..

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grandtangosuglydag December 23, 2014 at 10:37 am

my apologies flip…my psychiatrist told me i am crazy and i believe it…wee fun being nutz!!!

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Rocky December 23, 2014 at 12:26 pm

South Carolina of course. Haley, T-Rav and Ervin. Yeah baby – DOW is 1800 and 5% GDP growth 3Q – don’ get that under GOP Presidents. Oh, and $2.20 gas.

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RogueElephant December 22, 2014 at 4:04 pm

I am so tired of having the “choice” of which establishment RINO is the least detestable. Bush III and Christi are both closet liberals. I will give Bush the school choice edge but then he was for common core. The candidate I think who could best walk the line between what conservatives have to have and what the moderates will tolerate is Huckabee. He has gotten more conservative over the last few years and has always been the common sense candidate. 08 and 12 were living proof of what happens when the establishment moderates get their way. Let’s hope for better in 16.

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Bible Thumper December 22, 2014 at 4:18 pm

If you want “drastic reform”, the only one that has done anything drastic is Scott Walker. He saved the finances of municipal governments by standing up to the unions.

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Flip Coscoe December 23, 2014 at 8:34 am

If Clinton is Democrat choice, Bush will be Republican choice. He would carry Texas,Florida, Ohio,North Carolina,Virginia,Colorado and New Mexico.

If Warren is nominee pubs could run Palin and win. Obama has destroyed the Democrat Party for an entire generation.

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grandtangosuglydog December 23, 2014 at 10:15 am

face it flip..no one gives two shits about your comments..you are obsesses with anal sex and obama..you have nothing else to offer to adult conversation so go sit down in your double wide and bitch about its all Obamas fault your life is the shit hole it is..then you can watch some gay porn because of course you are doing some …research? is that what you tell yourself…

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Flip Coscoe December 23, 2014 at 10:24 am

You sound like some kind of woman beating fool posting from a federal prison?

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grandtangosuglydog December 23, 2014 at 10:27 am

witty reply..said no one ever..what is the gay porn on stand by why you take a breather..stare at your Obama poster and wish your life wasnt such a shit hole..then back to research..always research needs to be done huh flip/grandasshat/guywithblognoonereads/sandi///and the beaten pogo?

Flip Coscoe December 23, 2014 at 10:26 am

Try Rocky and Deo again. Ask Warden Fife for an extra 15 minutes of internet time.

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grandtangosuglydog December 23, 2014 at 10:40 am

ahhh flip the anal obsessed troll..so that’s your come back..that any one who thinks you are a fucking partisian hack troll is in prison??..hell everyone on this site must be in prison then you little meek troll. hahaha your my bitch flip..hey dont you have some research to do ? maybe visit the airport bathrooms?

Rocky Happy December 23, 2014 at 12:35 pm

That’s why The Lady polls over every potential GOP candidate by double digits? If I was the Got Zero Prayer party I’d be more concerned with what I was gonna do after the Dems keep the Casa Blanca and retake the Senate. Viva La Revolution. Yeah baby – DOW at 1800, 5% GDP growth Q3 and $2.20 gas. A return of the Clinton years – America is ready. You commie.

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Bible Thumper December 22, 2014 at 4:06 pm

Republicans constituencies:
1. Physical conservatives – lower debt, spending.
2. Strong defense / Foreign policy
3. Social conservatives
4. Libertarians – drugs, gambling, prostitution, isolation and pacifism

Now if one group has to be dumped to get an electoral majority, who do you think it’s gonna be? Answer: 4

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TontoBubbaGoldstein December 22, 2014 at 8:37 pm

Physical conservatives…

Let TBG guess:

* Physical* conservatives will *reign* in spending?

In the name of Olivia Newton-John…y’all are going to give TBG an aneurysm!

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Bible Thumper December 22, 2014 at 8:42 pm

Physical conservatives
I’m mean the voters, not necessarily who they elect.

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Tom December 23, 2014 at 4:25 pm

They are fiscal conservatives, unless they are opposed to excessive exercise.

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Bible Thumper December 23, 2014 at 4:27 pm

Damn!

Slartibartfast December 25, 2014 at 9:29 pm

Here is a special glue compound. Take a big swig, and call me in the morning.

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FastEddy23 December 22, 2014 at 10:18 pm

What about the Tea Parties??? … Oh, wait!

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Bible Thumper December 22, 2014 at 10:31 pm

There positions are the same as other Republicans, but the tea party will only vote for candidates that will do what they say. The rest of us will vote for the least of two evils.

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grandtangosuglydog December 23, 2014 at 10:38 am

i am evil…would you vote for me…?

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Bible Thumper December 23, 2014 at 12:55 pm

Depends on your opponent. I voted for Democrats this past November. Can’t get much more evil than that.

FastEddy23 December 30, 2014 at 12:57 pm

Out here in the west, the taxsuckers have the ballot so wired in that we had no choice in too many cases but to vote for a democrat or a rino. The Libertarians, the Greens, the “peace and freedom”‘s, even the commies, did not have a single candidate on the ballot, because of Taxifornia state “laws” about who wins the primaries.

FastEddy23 December 30, 2014 at 12:55 pm

only if you are lesser …

Republican Follies December 23, 2014 at 12:58 pm

The so called Tea Partiers will vote for the Republican candidate because they are Republicans and hate Democrats more than even their least favorite Republican.

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Bible Thumper December 23, 2014 at 1:00 pm

Nope. They will stay home if they are not satisfied. They won’t vote for Graham, period.

FastEddy23 December 30, 2014 at 12:54 pm

Not! …

lulz December 26, 2014 at 9:01 am

“Physical conservatives”

Seriously? You are a poster boy for all that is wrong with the GOP.

Not only that, but Republicans care about the debt/deficit as much as Democrats. There’s simply no difference in action there, only rhetoric.

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Tazmaniac December 22, 2014 at 4:26 pm

Will

The better picture for this article would have been 3 R(h)INOS at a watering hole sucking it dry while all the other animals were forced to watch.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein December 22, 2014 at 8:29 pm

Is TBG the only one who thinks GrandTango should throw his hat in the race?

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Pardo'n December 22, 2014 at 8:57 pm

Shouldn’t Tango be throwing in a rose?

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FastEddy23 December 22, 2014 at 10:05 pm

Jeb runs, Hillary wins. Any other republicrat runs, Hillary losses.

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GoGop December 23, 2014 at 5:23 pm

Jeb is going to win, and he is the only Republican who can beat Hillary.

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FastEddy23 December 30, 2014 at 1:44 pm

Road apples. Jeb does have a chance of beating Hillary if the election was held today, but no better than 50/50, today. Hillary will take Taxifornia and New York and Illinois and Pennsylvania and Washington and Minnasota and … and possibly even Florida.

“Jeb Bush Might Have A Tea Party Problem …” – http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/jeb-bush-might-have-a-tea-party-problem-in-2016/

By November of 2016, Jeb will have been dragged over the coals just like his daddy and brother were. The democrats will flood the airwaves with Jeb’s various past scandals and the Bush Family “Legacy”. (Remember Neil’s Colorado Savings and Loan Bank bankruptcy and bailout scandals? Remember “Read my lips …”? There are plenty of books on these and Jeb’s guilt by association.)

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GrandTango December 23, 2014 at 12:25 pm

We have to all rally around ONE Conservative this time…let the FITS-Liberal-Tarians eat each other up. Or we get 8 more years of failure, America-hate and very BAD Democrat rule…

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Rocky December 23, 2014 at 12:30 pm

Bush – demands amnesty passes before he’ll run.
Rubio – demands amnest passes before he’ll run.
Christie – demands a large pizza with sausage before he’ll run.
All three will push a pro-government, high spending agenda. Rubio wants to spend money on foreign policy, Bush on education, Christie on the Jersey Shore. And all three currently are polling 10-12 points behind Senator Hillary Clinton, the most certain Democratic nominee.
So stuff it – the only conservitive who could win is Rand Paul – and in 2021 he’ll be President.

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GrandTango December 23, 2014 at 12:58 pm

The DNC must have simpletons to win. You certainly represent yourself as a simpleton. A true Conservative will beat the snot out of any liberal you throw out there. Our country cannot afford to run another liberal light. We’ll collapse with any more Democrat failure…and the people are FINALLY figuring that out.

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Rocky December 23, 2014 at 4:32 pm

Please send us another Spartan then.

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GrandTango December 23, 2014 at 4:39 pm

Stupidly, the GOP sent you a Liberal-Tarian “Maverick” against Conservative principles in 08 …and a Mormon from the most liberal state in America, who oversaw the pilot program for Obamacare in ’12…

Give a voter a choice between a Democrat and a Democrat…and he’ll always choose the Democrat…

The fact that the Establishment FITS-wing of the GOP could not beat the WORST president in 100 years…should tell you the wrong person is running….

If the GOP does not get its head out its @$$…your ignorant, lily-white, doormat-wife, Dumb@$$ Hillary could win…which speaks very poorly of my country…

That said: voters are stupid at times…but we usually figure it out, over time. Hopefully the voters have figured out what a F*#king disaster the Democrat Party is for America…

Tom December 23, 2014 at 5:01 pm

By disaster you mean going from the worst recession in the since the Great Depression to the best economic quarter since 2003, a stock market at record highs, misery index down, gas prices down, housing prices up, unemployment falling, employment participation rising, interest rates low, dollar up against the euro and rising, Russia in financial crisis, and Ben laden dead.

GrandTango December 23, 2014 at 5:12 pm

Nice try Dumb@$$. I see you’re studying the talking points for fools….

Gas has been astronomical for almost all of Obama’s six years. And it’s still not down to what Bush averaged in his first six years… chasing not-ready alternative energy sources is dangerous and expensive…

The Stock market is just Obama feeding it w/ taxpayer money, so his fat-cat investors can get richer. The people who work are barely hanging on. There is no money to invest. They have to buy groceries and pay Obamacare-skyrocketing medical bills….

People have quit looking for jobs, or the jobs are PT and low-wage. Race relations are abysmal and we’re getting punked on an international basis by dictators and despots.

Healthcare is a mess, inflation is a major problem for food and there is no pride or enthusiasm for the future. Malaise is all that you imbeciles have brought….along w/ a bunch of lies…

Rocky December 23, 2014 at 12:37 pm

Sandi has wet dreams of Bush the Common Core supporter – then finds you like Sanford — Bush has a taste for the spicy exotic Latina. Then she’s sad.

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Soft Sigh from Hell December 23, 2014 at 6:15 pm

Whoever thought up “Bush the Fatter” deserves a +10.

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9" December 23, 2014 at 11:23 pm

I’m sick and tired of looking at ugly governors and presidents.This is who we need.He is FINE….http://blog.lib.umn.edu/cspg/smartpolitics/images/tedstrickland10.jpg

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TyroneMamaCollards December 24, 2014 at 10:16 am

terminal velocity? We are at 18,000 on the Dow. Pretty damn good for a Democratic administration. How can you hate Obama for that? The rich get richer regardless of race, color, creed, or political affiliation. Period.
People of high income are having an incredibly prosperous year. Is that not what we all want? Why so down in the mouth?? Check your 401k.

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