SC ONE OF SEVENTEEN STATES SUING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER EXECUTIVE ORDERS
By FITSNEWS || South Carolina and sixteen other states will sue the administration of Barack Obama over its recent immigration edicts – arguing the unconstitutional declarations jeopardize public safety and place unnecessary financial hardships on Palmetto State taxpayers.
The lawsuit – one of several being filed in response to Obama’s recent executive actions – will be announced this week by S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley and Attorney General Alan Wilson. Multiple other states – including Indiana, North Carolina, Oklahoma Texas and Wisconsin – have signaled their intention to file suit as well, although it wasn’t immediately clear which states South Carolina was joining.
Earlier this week Texas Governor-elect Greg Abbott said his state’s suit would be filed “any day now.”
“We are dotting the I’s and crossing the T’s,” he told Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren on Tuesday.
Meanwhile Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has already filed a suit, alleging Obama’s orders would result in the “increased release of criminal aliens back onto streets of Maricopa County, Arizona, and the rest of the nation.”
Obama’s orders – announced last month – would provide amnesty for up to five million of America’s roughly 13 million undocumented workers/ illegal aliens (pick your term). They’ve stoked controversy not only for their substance – but also the manner in which Obama is pursuing his preferred remedies.
This website has never breathed fire on the issue of illegal immigration. We’ve consistently urged pathways to status and other “progressive” reforms as possible solutions – although we’ve always acknowledged that border security (i.e. turning off the illegal alien spigot) is one of the few things government is supposed to do.
Which is why we’ve urged government to do it …
Having said all that, we don’t believe Obama can unilaterally change statues or create and fund new programs on a whim.
Can South Carolina and its fellow states win their case?
Obviously we’ll have to wait and see … but a recent report from the Congressional Research Service seems to think they will face an uphill battle.
“In several prior cases, states sought to challenge the federal government’s alleged failure to enforce immigration law on the grounds that this ‘failure’ imposes costs upon the states, which must provide public benefits and services to aliens who, under this argument, would not have been present within the state had the federal government enforced the INA,” the report concluded. “Some of these challenges have been rejected on standing grounds.”
The report added that in other cases “the court either ‘presumed’ or did not address the standing requirements, but found that states’ challenges presented a nonjusticiable political question.”
“The political question doctrine embodies the notion that courts should refrain from deciding questions that the Constitution has entrusted to other branches of government,” the report stated.
Well that’s the problem … the Constitution did entrust this question to another branch of government: Congress. And last time we checked, Congressional inaction was not a sufficient excuse for presidents to presume dictatorial power.
Congress – which is about to fall under total “Republican” control (for whatever that’s worth) – is afraid to sue Obama, though.
“Everybody I’ve talked to says we don’t have standing,” U.S. Sen. John McCain said in the wake of Obama’s ruling.
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How dare you racist xenophobes question the lord and savior.
President has no legal authority to grant amnesty. Thus, any executive orders or directives are illegal and “null and void.” Following and obeying an illegal executive order has dire legal consequences to those doing so. They can be imprisoned for their crimes. Statute of limitations is 5 years. Obama will be gone soon. And a new GOP Atty Gen will be in place.
He did not grant amnesty. His actions are not illegal and will be held up by the SCOTUS.
Oh really? Cite your case law in support.
I am waiting on you, SCBlue …. having troubles are ya? Don’t have access on line to legal materials?
6 U.S.C. 202 (5): The fundamental fact is this: There are 11.3 million people in the United States who, for one reason or another, are deportable. The largest number that can be deported in any year under the resources provided by Congress is somewhere around 400,000. Congress has recognized this and in 6 U.S.C. 202 (5) it has directed the secretary of homeland security to establish “national immigration enforcement policies and priorities.”
Under this order, Homeland Security will give priority to deporting those who are threats to national security, border security, or public safety, including those who have committed serious misdemeanors or abused the visa process. Obviously, no one will criticize that sensible setting of priorities. What has provoked vociferous criticism is the affirmative decision to announce a deferral of deportation for parents of those who are in the country lawfully. That is a lot of folks: Probably about 4 million people will be eligible to apply.
Red herring. This has nothing to do whatsoever with respect to presidential power to grant amnesty. Just as everyone on this site has said, you are anal retentive. Cite Constitutional case law is you can, that is clear a sitting president has authority to grant amnesty, inter alia, to illegal aliens. Obviously, you can’t. LMAO!!
Just wait and see how it’s upheld. LMAO at your stupidity.
Is Michello Obamao a man?
And there you have it.
She’s feverishly looking for facts to back up her inanity.
No she isn’t… she’s too busy for that.
He said himself that he changed the law, he cannot do that. It was not a colloquialism, he fucking changed the law.
He did not change the law.
I have deemed you to be a messed up psychotic. Why don’t you go somewhere and douche yourself out. How long ago was it that they released you from the SC Dept of Corrections Mental Ward?
No facts so you name call. Bless your heart. Grow up, educate yourself and quit hating so much. Life is so much better that way.
You’re sick sociopath, woman. You need to be in a locked psychiatric ward.
You’re a little late to that party. Many on here have been calling her that for months.
Well that certainly was a well thought out and very enlightening response? You kiss your Mother with that mouth?
Did you change your tampon?
Can you get Grand Tango’s dick out of your mouth?
He fucking said he changed the law. Where do you get your facts? Josh Earnest?
He never said that. The right has said that often in their interpretation. Doesn’t make it true.
It’s not a Right or Left thing, it’s a those were his exact words thing. Are you that full of Obama-aid that you can actually sit there and say the man didn’t say something, when he said those exact words?
“What you’re not paying attention to is, I just took an action to change the law,”
President Barack Obama, 25 November 2014.
He didn’t mean it that way but he did say it.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/25/politics/obama-hecklers-immigration-chicago/index.html
According to SCBW, he didn’t say this, even though he’s on record uttering those exact words. Liberal logic is confounding to me. How can one sit there and listen to a specific sentiment being delivered, and be so infected with Obamacide that they can, with a straight face, say he never said it. Unreal.
She’s not normally that obtuse.
Oh get over it. Everyone changes their minds. First we went into Iraq to stop Weapons of Mass Destruction, then it was Fight Terrorists. It’s not like he’s been standing in front of a Mission Accomplished flag.
That was 8 years ago, we’re talking about current events here. Pipe down and let the adults speak.
Blow off. Ted Cruz said he’d defund Obamacare and that didn’t happen. “He said, he said, he said” – trembling lower lip. For God sake, the issue isn’t “he said” – it’s 5 million families who are hard working trying to get ahead. God – why can’t you see that. And of course the worthless law suit that the South Carolina tax payers will pay for. Pedro Sez – dumb today – dumber tomorrow.
Over 20 well documented separate incidents where Obama said on record he could not grant amnesty nor even issue green cards to illegals who entered the country in violation of our law. And the law is clear to that. Many of these incidents are on youtube. Obama has shot himself in the head with this. His true colors are out like a Peacock with rabies.
If you tell the big lie enough, it becomes the truth.
Maybe the action to change the law means – I took action, and I hope that it will spur Congress to change the law.
Yep, he talks a lot and frequently contradicts himself. “If you like your plan…”
Actually Colonel when the debate devolves into “He said it” – “No he didn’t” – “Yes he did” – “No he didn’t” – I check out because we’re down to arguing over spent oxygen.
I just post the citation and move on but it’s fun to watch others play “yes-no” sometimes.
More fun to watch pretty women walking along Meeting Street in the Spring actually – know what I mean.
I used to have any office at the corner of Gadsden and Lady with a window, yes spring in Columbia is great thigh watching season.
Satan is your father.
That you dad?
Damn, now that’s funny.
Obama’s exact words were… But what you’re not paying attention to is the fact that I just took an action to change the law. How is that NOT changing the law?
He doesn’t give a rats ass if he is impeached or not. He knows either way, that he is creating a mess of this nation. Cater to the criminal illegals = a mess. Null and Void order while processing of amnesty is done = another mess if stopped after it has been started. or even partially completed. All those green cards, all those federal documents, etc, will be worthless to the illegals. The flip side of this is, of course, we get names and home addresses for a round up. But still, Obama is creating a mess that either way will further flush this country down the drain so far, it will never recover. The working middle class and those in poverty will suffer in ways never seen in this country. Obama is making sure America can not be America anymore. He is a sick deranged sociopath. He doesn’t even give a fuck about his own daughters nor his dog “Bo.”
I sure hope he takes that ISIS prayer rug with him when he leaves.
hell, he’ll probably take the silverware, china, toilet paper, light bulbs, stationary, and desk from the oval office….
Just like Hitlary tried to do when they moved out.
You are full of shit. Obama is a traitor and SCOTUS will stick it up his muslim, racist black ass on Obamacare and immigration.
No. The conservative SCOTUS will stick it up the ass of conservative voters and side with Obama like they’ve already done with same-sex marriage, and Obamacare once before. The funny part is you dumb fucks can’t understand this.
Uh-huh … want to see thousands climbing over the fence at the Whitehouse all at once … .thousands storming into the halls of Congress like marching ants on a feeding frenzy? What the masses will do is being grossly miscalculated. Look at the youtubes of the former unrest in Egypt …. Never second guess what the masses will do. So tell us that millions of Americans are too chicken to do anything but whine. Ferguson and New York are nice matches to get it all started. And New York exercise bad judgment with the Garner matters.
Ferguson was and New York will be black folks, and you knew from day one that they were going to riot. They also have tons of outside support. I can correctly calculate that Republican/Tea Party crowd won’t do shit, but file frivolous lawsuits like this one only to lose. Let me help you out, with what will happen. Congress will pass the original bill from the senate championed by an SC lawmaker(Lindsey Graham). If only to own a piece of the latino vote, and keep libs from owning a monopoly over it. So yeah, repub voters fucked by repubs again.
Actually the SCOTUS is NOT conservative…but you are probably right, Roberts will vote with Kagan and Ruth Bader….again…
Yo be an idiot. Yo thin dat becuz you vote for da man he gonna let you in his country club? He gonna let you in his house? You thin he gonna do what you wanna him to do. Nah, man. He gonna give dem tannies amnesty, jus like Presdent Obama do. When he go to Cracker Barrell in Greeneville, he tell Juan, don’t ya worry none, we take care ah you. When Maria come to clean his house, he tell her, don’t worry none, we gonna take care of you. Behind yo back, he call you stupid redneck, and jack king swamp boy. He count yo money and say “like takin’ candy from dat der baby.” Yo thin he gonna fight Obama? He ain’t gonna fight nobody. He think yo a fooo. And I think so too.
We’ll see…
Obama Amnesty as Feds Bust Illegal Aliens That Got $7.2 Mil from IRS with Stolen IDs …..
DECEMBER 02, 2014
In the same week that President Obama issued his administrative amnesty sparing millions from deportation, the feds busted a criminal ring of illegal immigrants that used stolen identities to defraud the U.S. government out of $7.2 million in tax refunds.
Send the subpoena and the bill to farmers, roofers, framers, masonry contractors, construction construction, homeowners as accomplises of landscaping crews, hoteliers, et al.
Punish those who employ them. Otherwise, shut the eff up.
Just Divisiveness … How about we blame the real taxsucking greedhead fools: The current Fascist elitist administration.
Good for South Carolina.
However I have a question.
Does this mean the SBA will cease tutoring “start ups” and small businesses on the practice of abusing the 1099 tax statute?
I am specifically referring to the “crooks” in the construction sector.
Yeh that’s the funny thing.
Most illegals work in Construction.
Lots of those Contractors are Democrats.
SO?
Put them in jail using the federal laws of 1947.
BTW, I have been in the construction industry since 1971, and have only run across a handful of owners who professed to be Democrat.
I was being sarcastic.
Of course, Republicans don’t really give a DAMN about any of this.Its just away to arouse their”base” as you can see from the comments here, it works.
Indeed, Republicans BRAG that they are the party of “businessmen.”
Who in the Hell do you think employs and pays these illegals?
Oh and Nikki Haley and Alan Wilsonare liars and idiots.
Gratuitous slandering?Of course.
The Billionaire Boys Club wants their cheap labor. ..Zuckerburg, Adelson,Buffett, Soros, et al., …the Middle Class and Constitution be damned!
You would think that these two ass-clowns Haley, and Wilson would get tired of losing lawsuits. On second thought, no not really because they use taxpayer money. Somehow, the dumb asses in this state believe that this actual leadership.
Maybe they should start paying for these pointless lawsuits out of their own pockets?
They won’t they’ll hust invoke the same amendment of the constitution that recused Haley from the same-sex case. Even though she fought just as hard as Wilson did.
One way or another, Obama will eventually end up in Federal Prison :-)
If there is a Santa Christ he will.
Not a chance. Haley will go first, unless she sucks off one the prosecutors. Which is not out of the realm of possibility.
Not out of the question for the bathhouse dictator either.
Likely, for Haley tho. Ask the plaintiffs in the 2 divorce cases, or better yet ask the man who runs this site.
“We are dotting the I’s and crossing the T’s”. Wow, impressive stuff for a Texas Governor.
The suit states – TIT, TIT, TIT, TIT, TIT, TIT. Right now they’re just working out one last question – does the dot go over, or under, the i.
Haley signed a recent immigration law just a few years ago. Thing is, it is NOT being enforced. I can swear on a stack of Bibles to it because I see these illegals every day working on Construction Sites …. their vehicles have NORTH CAROLINA TAGS. Haley is a bullshit artist. The contractors should be rounded up and lined up before a firing squad. They are all criminals themselves for breaking the law. And Haley and Wilson don’t do a GOD DAMN THING. What a Joke!
And neither will their tax-payer funded law suit. Nor will Haley’s cheap retro-poly pant suit. Nor will Wilson’s off-the-rack Burlington Coat Factory suit. Once again, the conservatives rush to suppor them, and then it’s bend over and say hello to Jesus. Gosh darn it – funnier than Charlie Brown always having Lucy pull the ball away on field goal kicks.
It figures you’d use a Biblical reference to support your nativist zenophobia.
F you and your immigrant ancestors….
It’s xenophobe, you fucking tool.
Obama is an all in one. He is a court judge making his own rulings, a legislature making his own laws and amending others made by Congress, and a Piss Ant President.
Why does Nikki and Alan keep pissing into the wind and costing us money.
“Why does Nikki and Alan keep pissing into the wind and costing us money”
Of course they are fiscal conservative Republicans! LOL
If it could be arranged for a fed. agent to walk into every business in America and ask to see the legal status of all the employees, then fine the company $5000.00 per illegal employee, the illegal “immigrant” problem would be over in six months. The only reason they are here is to make money, cut off the spigot and it ends. Simple enough, just not the guts to do it. As always. follow the money.
“the illegal “immigrant” problem would be over in six months”
And half the construction/landscaping industry would be out of business.
maybe then they could hire all them lazy ass welfare moochers…no wait, my bad.
Double that fine and the deficit would be gone too.
Obama acts like everything is a problem, when then the fucking problem is him.
It is beyond a reasonable doubt, that Obama violated the “Take Care Clause” of the U.S. Constitution that limits the scope of presidential power.
When are these useless sacks of shit, Haley and Wilson, going to get around to doing things that actually benefit SC citizens?
It won’t happen. That would leave a trail which couldn’t be denied or lied about.
LMAO…FITS claims to be a political consultant, but HATES Nikki Haley, while she kicks his @$$ on a daily basis. And he has NO idea as to why….
Check out SCPSD..They are laughing at you, and your ignorance, over there. The GOP is doing the will of the people, while you march in lockstep w/ the media dictates, and get pummeled at the polls. You are the epitome of a Dumb@$$….Hahahaha…
SCPSD is a shit-show graveyard of convoluted verbiage and atavistic thinking. Been there….wrote one comment and got spam mail for doing it. My advice: don’t do it folks, even for fun.
Just another pointless gesture by Republican politicians (which is what they do in lieu of governing). To Wilson, et al: Sue and lose. The Supreme Court has ruled many times in favor of strong presidential discretion on executive actions.
The native poor and Middle Class will be harmed by Amnesty…only the rich oligarchs benefit from Amnesty…shame on them!!
What statues has Obama tried to change?
Steve Forbes has a levelheaded editorial about this very problem in this latest issue of Forbes …”PRESIDENT OBAMA’S EDICT on immigration marks the most blatant attempt to subvert the Constitution since Franklin Roosevelt tried to pack the Supreme Court in 1937. …” – http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2014/12/01/answering-obamas-illegal-edict-on-immigration/
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20141203/us–immigration-texas-0e6478e753.html
All of the southern states are now in this fed suit.
Dis der amnesty is an Obamanation. Who de heck say when you cross de dessert to come here mean you gets to stay. Even you have a half-breed child, you’z gots to leave. Too many Ameridans iz lookin’ for the da job for da man. We’z wants to work at da Corrall and da Barrell. And dez illeeegals, dez come in here and heck, they cut up da chicken for half de price. Used to be we’z all gets the jobs cuttin’ up de chickens. Now only dez Span’sh hablos gets does jobs. And Obama, he screwin’ us. He’s lettin’ illegal Joe take from Issac and Leroy Brown, and givin’ to Juan Tano. Ain’t not fair. It against Ameriaca. Again da Constitution. It Chrismas – and my boy he need new sneakers. Used to be, working da chicken line, I buy him da new Nike. Now I’z gots to go to Payless. Ain’t fair. Dez tannies, dez work for less. An dez send lots dat money back to Mex-co to Mami and Papi. And dez sistas, don’t sleep de black man. Dez slip with whitey trailer boys. So I sez, sue dat mofo. Dez sistas no respect da 9 inch. Dey wants de little worm.
Illegal aliens will be awarded with every benefit?
This
Imperial President is destroying America, and outside of the Tea
Party (sovereignty and constitutionalists) is the only one with the guts to say
it. We have a country in turmoil and we have the Reno’s and Democrats who in
truth eager to bring into America more slave labor. May
be that’s a bit strong, but the GOP also want for their wealthy cronies and the
wealthy lobbyists, an acceptable stream of legal as well as illegal aliens. The
Democrats on the other hand are greedy for a new population of fresh voting
Democrats, distributed amongst the ‘Give-me’ for nothing people–the
‘freeloaders’ as we have plenty of them in the US already. Obamas
government has opened the Food Stamp lines (EBT) freedom, jobs, insurance,
education, health care and a future citizenship with the swipe of the
Presidents pen to 4 to 5 million nationals. We
surely cannot afford it any more, because the big Federal deficit board has
just groaned to $18.000.000.000.000.
Obama
is quickly draining the reservoir of dollars, with his grants to
environmentalists has been a poor example of his out of control spending, with
many of the green companies suffering the fate of bankruptcy. His Affordable
Care Act (Obamacare) that the Democratic hierarchy knew well beforehand the
real cost of this near one payer system that are two dominant lies. Every day I
hear the charities begging for money for the homeless, veterans, young people
living on the streets in every city and of course old folk, so why are both
parties offering a welcome to foreign nationals?
There are
two Documentary video’s that every taxpayer needs to watch ‘The Border States
of America’ https://www.teapartypatriots.org/theborderstates/
and also view They Come to America and
then an additionally the latest version that explores the human and
financial costs of unlawful immigration at http://media.wrko.com/a/73998492/they-come-to-america-ii.htm/
These videos uncover
the fanatical posture of this President and failure to uphold the demanding
will of the American People on the illegal alien invasion. Both parties are guilty
of not building a fence along the Southern border, mainly because of their own
self-interest agendas and now we are suffering in the amount of trillions of
dollars and no end in sight. When Obama and his collaborators stress the border
it’s secure than it’s ever been, it’s a downright lie. There are still hundreds
of miles where anybody can cross a few strands of ancient barbed wire or wade
through a thin stream of water. THE cost of the processing the illegal aliens
here, is not proportionate to what we (hope) they pay in taxes. American
Taxpayers still end up supporting the majority for the rest of their lives.
Amongst the
hundreds of anti-illegal immigration websites to investigate are: http://www.numbersusa.com/ and http://www.alipac.us. Both websites are a key
introduction to the financial damage done to American social order and the rule
of law.
Millions of Americans still stand
for the rule of law, not the growing controversy over this seriously flawed ‘of
Being Politically Correct’? The zealot progressives are pressing with all their
might, to change this country into a Socialist-Communistic society where ‘Free
Speech’ is under constant bombardment and that is a violation of the people’s
rights. Bombard every politician of both major
parties as they are finally getting the message that America belongs to THE PEOPLE
and not the special interests. These
are Contact phone
Numbers and Mailing Addresses of Members of Congress
at: http://www.contactingthecongress.org
or direct line to central switchboard at 1-866-220-0044 or
1-800-224-3121.
COPY AND PASTE THIS EMAIL AND
FORWARDED TO EVERYBODY. EVERY AMERICAN MUST KEEP UP THE PRESSURE ON THESE
PATHETIC POLITICIANS.
Haley is just doing what Haley does best self promoting her stupid ass to higher office.
Somehow I don’t the rest of the country being as STUPID as South Carolina.
And I have my entire 63 years here.
BJ Haley suing the President for supposedly violating the Constitution while she repeatedly violates the SC Constitution. I know of at least 3 instances where either individuals or the legislature took BJ Haley to court and she was found guilty each time
BJ has lost every case against the President too.