LEXINGTON EVENT EVOKES SAFETY CONCERNS
Lexington County residents – including several black pastors – are attempting to block a party scheduled for this weekend at the Doubletree by Hilton Hotel on the outskirts of Columbia, S.C.
Their argument? That the event is unsafe and that its organizers have a history of promoting events that draw the “gang element.”
It’s not an idle claim, either.
During a college basketball tournament in Charlotte, N.C. last month, this same group hosted a party where two people were shot.
That shooting occurred inside the ballroom of the Charlotte Sheraton during the wee hours of March 2. Michelle Hardy, 33, of Virginia Beach, Virginia was shot in the leg. Thirty-five-year-old Miguel Antonio King of Las Vegas, Nevada was also shot in the leg.
“Please contact the local Sheriff and tell him we do not want this type of violence in our community,” one black leader told FITS on condition of anonymity.
Lexington County has jurisdiction over the Doubletree Hotel. Calls to the Lexington Sheriff’s Office were not immediately returned.
Located a short drive from downtown Columbia near the intersection of Interstates 20 and 26, the Doubletree has 23,000 feet of meeting space and can accommodate up to 1,000 party guests.
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Just move it Five Points. No one will notice a difference.
Michelle Hardy, 33, of Virginia Beach, Virginia was shot in the leg
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The whole BEACH??? or the whole STATE???
What was the *real* problem? Did the gang members refuse to come armed?
If they all promised to bring guns, there wouldn’t be any gang violence at all.
What’s the problem? If everyone brings their guns…then it will be safe. That’s the NRA way isn’t it? More guns = more safety.
I think the NRA has something in there about “responsible gun ownership” but don’t let that ruin your perfectly obsequious rant.
Responsible as in the popcorn shooter or loud rap music shooter? Or Zimmerman? Or Dick Cheney shooting his buddy in the face?
Negroes shoot and kill more negroes in the US annually than whites shoot and kill negroes and whites combined. Just blind luck?
“Just blind luck?”
No man, that takes a lot of practice.
Historically, negroes never were gun owners. Maybe an old twelve side by side or a .22 but never anything nice and certainly never a handgun. Now, they own autoloading pistols and Lord knows what else. How they ever learned to buy the right bullets or load them is a miracle. Must be the new math and all; you know, .40, .38, 10mm, 9mm, .380, .45. They sure is mathematical geniuses now, yes ma’am!
Thank you for your insight. On a slightly different matter – I know several very intelligent, humorous, wonderful people who happen to have more Melanin in their skin than I. They all own several firearms, and I go Shooting with them about once a year. Three Jersey Italians, Two North Carolina American-Africans, One Punjabi who speaks better grammar than I do, One Black Rapper, a very tan gay French dude, and a Black guy from Germany. They’re all conservatives and libertarians. Not a damn Democrat in the group.
Wow…throw out the word “negroes” and you get two likes straight away. Just use thugs like everyone else does. It’s like saying “ass” for donkey and getting away with a curse word in front of your parents b/c we all know thug is the new n****er. In fact, you should just man up and say n****er to start with. Or are you one of these types who says they aren’t racist and offended at such terms?
Anyhoo, the biggest recipient of food stamps in this country are single, white, “baby mamas”…since we’re playing the race card. Just blind luck?
“Anyhoo, the biggest recipient of food stamps in this country are single,
white, “baby mamas”…since we’re playing the race card. Just blind
luck?”
Not per capita my friend, in terms of percentage blacks are far and away the largest users of welfare & food stamps.
Three more likes for associating race with benefits. I guess the audience didn’t like being reminded about the Bristol Palins of America.
“Three more likes for associating race with benefits.”
lol, you brought it up! What, you wanna retread because you don’t like the statistics?
Last I looked, Bristol wasn’t on food stamps…
What are the statistics on how many blacks have a weapon?
If negroes murdered by negroes every year in the US were eliminated, the rest of negroes murdered would be statistically insignificant. The number is less than 2%. You people could spend more time promoting something like seat belt use, or colonoscopies if you would stop shooting one another. White people sure as hell aren’t killing that many of you.
Settle down Maurice Bessinger….first of all I’m white, not black.
Secondly, white people account for more gun deaths in the US than blacks (when taking into account suicides). If you exclude suicides and just look at homicides, white people trail blacks by a total of just 6% points as per current FBI homicide data.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl03.xls
Well……I think at last count there were still a good many more white people than negroes in the US. Care to break down those stats of yours on a per capita basis? Negroes are bumping one another off at a brisk pace, especially in the urban areas that they politically control. Times sho am good, an gettin betta!
I suppose you’d also accept the correlation b/w GOP controlled states (run by mostly white men…notwithstanding Nikki Haley) being the poorest, least educated, unhealthiest, higher crime, higher unemployment and neediest of federal hand out states?
Please stop, Limbaugh! Mike was making a fool of you, but you stepped in and finished the job for him. Your misuse of statistics is pathetic, and he quickly exposed your reliance on Wiki. You can also stop using the tired liberal tactic of claiming that anyone who disagrees with you is using Fox News talking points. The tripe you threw up here doesn’t even rise to the low level of talking points. You embarrassed yourself – repeatedly. Just stop.
That’s because the states to which you refer are full of negroes.
You need a Intro to Stats refresher, my friend. That “6 points”
you’re talking about is absolutely irrelevant to this debate. That distribution is within the 100% of the homicides as reported in UCR’s, but with 28% listed as “unknown.” For meaning (i.e., offending rates) you have to fold the number of offenders (by race) into the overall population (by race). Even with the huge 28% chunk of unknowns, look at the ratios. The Census folks say the US population 77% white and 13% black- yet there were 4,849 white offenders versus 5,770 black offenders. If those numbers were normed to the racial breakdown of the country, they would have been 8,177 white offenders versus 1,380 black offenders (what the ratio “should” have been, as it were). Interesting, no? You may genuinely be interested in this report: http://colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.pdf I’ve been blowing undergrad minds with it off and on since the first version was published back in the late 90’s. Facts are pesky little bastards.
You may need some education as to the source of the tripe you’ve pasted above…the esteemed “New Century Foundation” is nothing more than a racist think tank.
Here’s an excerpt:
The New Century Foundation is an organization founded in 1994 known primarily for publishing American Renaissance. From 1994 to 1999 its activities received considerable funding by the Pioneer Fund,[1][2][3] and has been described as a white supremacist group,[4] which its founder, Jared Taylor, denies, calling it white separatist.
Here’s the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Century_Foundation
Dude, you do know that even freshman students at a SC tech school can’t use Wikipedia as source material, right? It is written by the people who read it! You see the glaring issue there, right? Of *course* New Century has been attacked as racist by the booger-eaters who write Wiki articles from their Moms’ basements, yet not a single fact or statistic in either of their reports has been proven false. Not…a…one (unless you’re getting ready to do that for us now, which I highly doubt). You can run my stuff through the intergoogle every time we spat, but fcats are, well, facts. As I said, they can be annoying at times, like being on the wrong side of statistical data- you’re still just as dead wrong on your interpretation of the UCR numbers as you were before, but nice deflection here. I’m starting to get your M.O. now…
Devastating.
So is New Century a white separatist group or not?
And does it matter to this argument? Look, if Mike’s fact are wrong, than prove it… otherwise, shut the f&ck up!!
Of course not. I would not last too long with my university bosses or my clients should I start using neo-Nazi or other white supremacist material (unlike, of course, some of my peers at the far left end of the political spectrum, who routinely use and promote black separatist and supremacy material). New Century is a 501(c)(3) think tank which studies immigration and race issues, and have never (as in not once) supported white separatism, supremacy, etc. Trust me, SPLC keeps them under a watchful eye! They have produced some worthwhile research, but are sometimes their own worst enemy (politically speaking) because they like to poke the bear pretty regularly in regard to tackling really sensitive, hot button issues.. The SPLC *loathes* them, a fact the New Century folks wear like a badge of honor. Despite all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth, however, their numbers are all pulled directly from the UCR and NIBRS datasets. They just tend to piss people off…
Here’s a bit more for you:
Social activist and writer Tim Wise wrote an essay titled “The Color of Deception”
as a rebuttal of Color of Crime. His essay used data from the FBI and
BJS showing that interracial crimes are actually fairly rare; that the
vast majority of black (and white) crime is committed against victims of
the same race; that whites still account for the majority of crime in
the United States; and that part of the reason blacks are
over-represented for many crime categories is their neighborhoods are
generally much more heavily policed and black suspects are significantly
less likely to be acquitted or released with a warning. The book also
uses statistical data to argue that blacks are actually over-represented
as victims of interracial violence per capita (arguing blacks are 50%
more likely to be victims of interracial violence than pure chance would
predict) and that overall white criminals pose the greatest threat to
white Americans and black criminals pose the greatest threat to black
Americans.[13]
In Hate Crimes, Barbara Perry refers to the book as a classic of the genre of output by white nationalist academic racists.[14]
Dude, you really have just discovered the wonders of Wikipedia, haven’t you? Unfortunately for your side of this debate, I teach this shit. The cite you pulled (from the same flawed Wiki article, by the way, that you found during your first 5-minute research effort) is a Tim Wise piece…do you have any idea how silly you look using him to impugn actual social science? He is a zealot and Kool-Aid drinker of a very high order. He’s “published” (if you want to quantify it as such) by a radical, left-wing/socialist website called ZComm, for crying out loud, while Jared Taylor is a Yale trained philosopher. You should really spend a few minutes (not on Wiki) reading up on Wise before you cite him in public. He has made an entire career (literally) out of self-loathing and pandering on race issues. Even your beloved SPLC folks finally admitted (although, amazingly enough, not on Wikipedia) that Taylor’s numbers are correct . They qualified their admission, though, with a lame oh-yeah-well-it’s-still-whitey’s-fault-because-of-institutional-bias-and-stuff. Seriously, bro, just stop. You look silly…
First of all, where do you teach? I need to know so I can direct students far away from there.
Secondly, if anyone looks silly it’s you. You’re taking the oft tired Faux News tact of debunking through dubiousness and the bully rebuttal. Case in point would be global warming. The fossil fool industry gives a bajillion dollars a year to certain congressmen and special interest “scientists” to come up with reports trying to debunk over 95% of the world’s professional scientists on man made global warming…all to preserve their profits against a groundswell that the earth is getting warmer, at a faster rate and that it is caused by man (in large part). Then you get mouthpieces on conservative air to shout down all comers who dare challenge you as “low information voters” or “kool-aid drinkers” and the like.
Look, we started on a simple statistical error that you made (which you are yet to even mention again- speaking of “oft-tried” tactics), and it is now you who has deflected to several points downstream. Your analysis was simply incorrect, and I merely pointed that out to you (and showed you the correct math). Maybe you’re right and should be teaching all my soc classes (I only do a few a year, but make my living in social science out in the real world). I’ll run your numbers by the respective department heads and let you know if they want to contact you. You and I aren’t going to agree on this, and trying to keep you on what we started talking about is taking up a lot of time. You go ahead with the stereotypical “Faux News” bashing and wander over into fossil fuels; I was only correcting your math. We’ll have to agree to disagree. Peace.
“First of all, where do you teach? I need to know so I can direct students far away from there.”
Seconded.
Hey, if you don’t want your kids to learn factual information, that’s none of my business. Tens of thousands of kids (and, I guess, their parents) through the years have disagreed with your assessment, though. You obviously know how slanted to the right academia is- that’s why it’s so easy for me to make up facts and …uh, wait a minute…
Limbaugh was wobbling on his feet (barely) but this one put him down for the count. The rest of his comments came after he picked himself off the mat and started blaming the ref for calling the fight too early. His trainers rightfully restrained him and walked him out of the ring.
Thank you for answering Mr. ***khunt. Even though you used provable fact (always a negative for progressives), it was expected that the “gimmes” would ignore your argument. Momma always said, “Stupid is as stupid does.” Hence, the tiresomely unfactual clabberings of Mr. ***khunt and Mr. Orgoboy.
I can’t keep up this pace, however. Dude used up my entire 15 minutes of FITS time yesterday, and is just not worth the keystrokes. I tell myself not to do it…just ignore it and click on through to the next piece, but once in a while I fall down the rabbit hole. I think I shaved 5 points off of my IQ in doing so… http://youtu.be/WtNHuqHWefU
Rule. Number. Three. :)
I know, bro. I know. You’re absolutely right.
I have no one to blame but myself. In my defense, however, let me say this. I have noticed that most of my friends (who are in their mid-40’s through mid-50’s) are also losing their tolerance for stupidity. I think it’s an aging thing- I’ll be 50 before Obama leaves office…
We are about the same age.
Maybe it’s Early Onset Elderly Tourette’s, eh?
My wife has a small collection of invective she tosses at me from time to time regarding my EOET:
1. You have no gear between your brain and your mouth…
2. You should get that Asshole Tourette’s looked at…
3. You know, just because you *can* say something doesn’t mean you have to, even when you’re right…
Of course, she also says that she married me because of my attitude. She’s conflicted.
Well, take five of mine. I know, it will not leave me with much, but, it’s for a good cause.
So how do you feel about a black man representin’ you in congress and will you vote for Sen. Scott this year?
So how do you feel about a black man representin’ you in congress and will you vote for Sen. Scott this year?
1) Happy about my senator (Scott).
Not happy about my representative (Clyburn).
2) Absolutely.
To quote Long John Silver: Aaaarrrrrrrrmen!
My black 7th grade life science teacher refused to let anyone in her class use the terms, black, white, or African-American. We were required to use the term Negro and Caucasian.
according to the NRA, all Negroes need to do is order more guns.
Not all they need to do, but it would be a good start. Next I would suggest belts for those sagging pants.
it would be a good start
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more drugs, too?
Responsible as in the popcorn shooter
He’s gonna go to jail.
or loud rap music shooter?
Was found guilty, hope he rots in jail.
Please don’t equate all gun owners to these fucktards, kthx.
Citizens have to arm themselves when Democrats are in the White House. Remember Clinton,Reno and Waco!
In Dick’s defense, he was DRUNK!
How many times does it take for you to understand something?
The “popcorn shooter” was an old man who was being bullied by a rude, inconsiderate, jerk, after he went to the theater management with his complaint about the jerk. “How dare you go to the management on me?” That the jerk’s wife was shot in the hand with the same bullet that killed the jerk, indicates that his wife was trying to restrain him from bullying the old man at the moment the shot was fired. Anticipating your question, “should rudeness (and being a bully) justify a death sentence?”, that was something the rude jerk apparently decided for himself.
Zimmerman was acquitted by a jury of any wrongdoing in that case. Little Trayvon was found in possession of stolen goods at school, taken in a nearby burglary, just days before he was shot.
Emboldened by the lack of police or other official action against him, other than the reward of being out of school, it is not a stretch to imagine he was casing the area on the way back from his “tea and skittles” run. Z saw this and was trying to keep him in sight because he didn’t want his stuff or his neighbors stuff being stolen. A budding criminal’s career was cut short. It’s all good.
The guy who was shot by Cheney while hunting obviously didn’t heed his mother’s warnings to be careful of the kind of people he associated with. Lessons learned.
I think you may want to drop the “popcorn shooter” and not defend him. What he did was indefensible, even if the guy was being a jerk. Hotheads who can’t control their anger should not carry guns, as he aptly proved.
If popcorn shootee was physically threatening popcorn shooter to the extent his wife thought it necessary to physically restrain him, he was a threat and he deserved what he got. Period, end of subject.
I would suggest reading more of the facts. Witness said he heard: “I’ll teach you to throw popcorn at me” right before the shots, and then saw the shooter’s wife telling her husband “that was no cause to shoot someone.” Then he heard the shooter say “I can’t believe what I’ve done.”
None of those facts suggest a justifiable homicide. Instead, they suggest a hot-tempered man who lost his cool and fired his gun when it was completely unncessary.
Look, you and I probably share a lot of opinions on guns and gun laws, but this guy is not the horse you want to attach your carriage to.
You forgot to mention the wife also was overheard saying for him not to shoot the husband he’s a father (e.g. of the kid at home) that is the gun was out BEFORE he finally chose to shoot – it wasnt all in one motion – so unless the dad was totally insane, and he didn’t sound it, it would me the (old man) police captain had his gun out and the dad was trying to beat him up at THAT time. This was a horrendous event – also the old man had a history of getting in altercations with people. it appeared he was drawn to conflict, and as a former cop probably just seethed with being ‘disrespected’ from all I have read about him – but for the possible charges, he was likely pleased as peaches with the outcome of the altercation and would have been jonesing for a ‘double feature’ so to speak if he could have found maybe a single mom with a whiny kid at the next showing that night who ‘stepped’ up to him
Negative, I will not drop that. The jerk was trying to bully the old man. Easterndumbfuckastan makes my point very well, below.
Read my response to him below. “Popcorn shooter” is absolutely the wrong guy to champion for. He’s a hot head who lost his cool and killed a man over something trivial.
If everyone in that theater would have been armed, would everyone have thrown popcorn back at the perp… or shot him before he could reach his coke?
Was there perchance a surly grandma or two in the ditch in front of Lt. Calley?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/24/james-boyd-killed-by-cops_n_5021117.html
He euwe max! That was a disgusting abuse of power. Normally, I side with the police, but I found nothing justifiable in this. You shoot him with bean bags AFTER you shoot him with an AR????? Really? So many believe that ONLY the police should be the ones who can carry, because why?
Good point.
“0bsequious”? I don’t think you understand the meaning of the word. The guy is hardly being obsequious, unless you don’t understand sarcasm.
http://youtu.be/G2y8Sx4B2Sk
ob·se·qui·ous
?b?s?kw??s/
adjective
adjective: obsequious
1. characterized by or showing servile complaisance or deference; fawning: an obsequious bow.
2. servilely compliant or deferential: obsequious servants.
3. obedient; dutiful.
“your obsequious rant is standard antigun party line.”
Maybe a better word would have been sycophantic, or I could have just said you’re an idiot.
I think the NRA has something in there about “responsible gun ownership”
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so they’d detect the owners who were about to behave irresponsibly, and redact their gun ownership by satellite?
That crowd would only have illegal weapons. Which is exactly why the non criminal hotel guests should be allowed to have their legal guns, if they so choose.
So “that crowd” whomever they are (wink, wink) would a) presume that every one of them will be armed. b) that they will obviously have illegal weapons, c) the “non-criminal” guests….which presupposes that 100% of “that crowd” are all criminals and those not in “that crowd” are obvious 100% law abiders should be allowed to have their guns. So, what we’re left with is what I originally said, NRA standard issue is more guns = more safety.
Bro, this is just silly. You usually do a little better than that, not that I think you believe this one- I think you’re just shit-stirring. Don’t misunderstand me, I think shitstirring is usually a worthwhile endeavor.
Bro, this is just silly.
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That’s how I read the NRA platform also
more guns = more safety
gun free zone = more crime
unarmed = invitation to murder
“If I was going to kill my wife, that’s how I’d do it… I’d pay someone to make a noise like a discharging firearm, and I’d accidentally shoot her in the confusion.”
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Well, sure…. until you posted this.
It’ll still work as long as I zero my hard drive…
But then.. there’s the whole jelly-spined NRA thing.. they lack the necessary resolve for a gun-saturated America in my lifetime.
Careful, bro. The interweb is forever… ;-)
In a topic where shooters are described shooting Virginia and Nevada? No gun-toting jury in an America saturated with guns would convict me.
Yes, I think you’re finally getting it! Reality is what it is. Gang members are typically armed with illegal weapons. So, unless law abiding citizens are legally armed, we are defenseless against those who would harm the innocent. But don’t worry, carrying a legal weapon is a choice. So you don’t have to have a legal gun. But if we’re ever at the same place, at the same time and are attacked by illegal gun holders, I’m sure you’ll be glad that I have my legal gun on me!
Bush: “I don’t think we ought to be selling guns to people who shouldn’t have them. That’s why I support instant background checks at gun shows. One of the reasons we have an instant background check is so that we instantly know whether or not someone should have a gun or not.”
Ideally, anyone who commits a crime with a gun is illegally using it, as well as presenting deadly force, therefore enabling someone else to legally use their gun in self defense.
Now you get it. Good for you. You should join the NRA.
I love it when morons like you conflate law abiding CWP holders and illegal weapon owning gang members. You’re an idiot.
Sign on the door says “NO GUNS” so only the crooks enter with guns.
I had been waiting for Fits weekly racial post.Usually,he spotlights some perceived outrage by the NAACP or focuses on an offhand comment by some Black politician.
This weeks addition is a stretch even for him,some social gathering?hen again he had to post something to assuage his usual suspects in the “race game” hereabouts,who are all bent out of shape at his calling Republican master strategist Lee Atwater a “racist” and publishing Amy Lazenbys rather innocuous little article about Civil Rights education which drove that crowd up the wall with one poor chap yakking over “White guilt.”
So, bravo, Fits!Good job at evening things on out and working in those anonymous Black preachers was a particularly smooth move.
Tune in next week!
Nigga please…
Like I said,the”usual suspects.”
Oh shit I just spilled my Cheerios…
You don’ have to invent this S#!*, Dumb@$$…Just look at the Bull$#!* Elijah Cummings and Eric Holder are trying to pull..
And: FITS has been loudly SILENT (per usual) about the Utash beating by a mod of Race-hating blacks…but I guess you’ll cry foul over that too. You race-hating B@$*@rds, always do….
You are way too much of a Piece of $#!*, who has done extreme damage to this country, using your racist hatred as a weapon..
Too many good Americans, are guilty for letting your Good-for-nothing-@$$#$ get away with it…We need to Slap the $#!* out of idiots like you…and I think America is FINALLY waking up…and beginning to do that…
FITS ain’t no rep: you must be pretty familiar with this non-story. The post doesn’t even reference the name of the group, nor that it’s a black group. Or are you just some racist jerk who assumes any thing gang related/basketball related/or that involved a shooting at a social event must be a group of blacks? Like those white idiots who say things such as “I’ve even had a black person over at my house before” as some kind of argument ender or conversation zinger at whit dinner parties to show their ‘cred’ when it comes to being totally progressive and non-rascist?
That Doubletree has been sliding downhill for some time. The restaurant in there, Columbo’s, isn’t half bad…but the rest of it is marginal at best. It’s getting a little long in the tooth and they haven’t updated it over time.
They are probably desperate for the business. If someone gets shot up though and they get sued, they’ll wish they never booked them.
Last time I had dinner there, they had a South American Amway convention going on…lol…no shit! It was funny as hell. I guess there’s not enough dupes left to do Amway in the States anymore so they had to go someplace where Amway doesn’t mean “Scamway”.
I thought it used to be a Ramada Inn or something else before? I honestly have no idea why Hilton bought it.
It was a Ramada until the mid 2000s. It’s not owned by Hilton, it’s an independent franchisee of the Doubletree / Hilton name. I’ve stayed in numerous Hilton properties on business trips and I’ve been in this one a few times for meetings. It doesn’t appear to be up to the standards I normally expect from Hilton/Doubletree/Embassy Suites.
What? People want an inter-state business to deny service to a group of people? I say, let them have their party.
I also say, collect the drinking glasses for prints. We should be able to solve over a hundred crimes in the Midlands.
Deux oiseaux. Une pierre.
More like 40 birds, most likely…
Freak-Nick…remember even Atlanta had to ban that. BBW in Atlantic Beach is another similar event.
These are actually disrespect-for-people and Crime issues that have become totally-racially charged by leftwing hate groups and black racists…
Anyone know who the promoters are? I think I have an idea, but I would like to know for sure. If it’s who I think it is, this is truly bad news.
Oppression! This is America. You are innocent until your first shots are fired.
OK, OK, brandishing may get you a few seconds before.