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SC-1: Kuhn Versus Sanford

We’ve met a lot of crazy people in South Carolina politics … and to be fair some degree of mental instability seems to be a prerequisite for seeking public office in this state. But former S.C. Senator John Kuhn has always set the bar for political nuttiness pretty high. The…

We’ve met a lot of crazy people in South Carolina politics … and to be fair some degree of mental instability seems to be a prerequisite for seeking public office in this state.

But former S.C. Senator John Kuhn has always set the bar for political nuttiness pretty high. The guy is, quite simply, “Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs” – as evidenced by his brief but dramatic tenure in the State Senate (a body not known for its proximity to rational thought in the first place).

News of Kuhn’s alleged involved in a new political soap opera – including an alleged shouting match with a rival campaign manager – suggests things haven’t changed much since his days waving the wacky flag in Columbia.

The incident for which Kuhn is best remembered? A May 2004 shouting match with former S.C. First Lady Jenny Sanford outside the offices of her then-husband, former Gov. Mark Sanford (who, like Kuhn, is seeking the GOP nomination for South Carolina’s first congressional district).

Kuhn – who instigated the confrontation – was enraged at Sanford because she donated $1,000 to the State Senate campaign of his opponent, S.C. Sen. Chip Campsen (RINO-Charleston). In fact in addition to literally shrieking at Sanford, he attempted to shake her down for a $1,000 contribution of his own.

The problem with that? Soliciting contributions on the grounds of the S.C. State House is illegal.

Kuhn has steadfastly denied soliciting contributions from Sanford – or yelling at her.

“If anybody yelled at anybody it was the First Lady,” Kuhn told The (Charleston, S.C.) Post and Courier at the time. “If anybody was unprofessional, it was her. She really blew her top. The staff had to usher her out of the hallway because according to them, they ‘didn’t want the press to see Jenny that way.'”

That’s simply not true. Jenny Sanford was ushered away by security – not staffers. And it wasn’t because of anything she said or did, it was because the agents protecting her believed Kuhn was posed a potential danger to her safety.

Which he did …

Anyway, Kuhn has been through plenty of ideological evolutions (and presumably plenty of medication) since then. He endorsed liberal Democrat Tommy Moore for governor in 2006, then backed fiscal conservative Ron Paul’s 2012 presidential bid.

Which way will his pendulum swing in this race?

Who knows … but wherever he ends up on the political spectrum Kuhn can be counted on to “bring the crazy.”

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30 comments

what's new March 1, 2013 at 11:46 am

Just your run of the mill SC politician……where’s the story?

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Please March 1, 2013 at 12:14 pm

Yeah, this incident is old news – just like the Nash stuff. Is there anything new coming out about these guys or are we just getting recycled stories that help paint Sanford in a favorable light? From the “articles” we’ve seen on this campaign here, it looks like FITS is trying to set up a Sanford/Grooms run-off (lots of favorable coverage of Grooms, and he always tells us when Grooms has a new commercial out). Wonder which one is paying him – or if they both are…

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what's new March 1, 2013 at 11:46 am

Just your run of the mill SC politician……where’s the story?

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Please March 1, 2013 at 12:14 pm

Yeah, this incident is old news – just like the Nash stuff. Is there anything new coming out about these guys or are we just getting recycled stories that help paint Sanford in a favorable light? From the “articles” we’ve seen on this campaign here, it looks like FITS is trying to set up a Sanford/Grooms run-off (lots of favorable coverage of Grooms, and he always tells us when Grooms has a new commercial out). Wonder which one is paying him – or if they both are…

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Bubbas Brother March 1, 2013 at 11:54 am

Looks like a TV preacher, middle school principal or a self help book guru.

As for his politics, he’s a WINTBTGYV Republican – a sub-species we have way to many of in the Republican Party. WINTBTGYV’s are the Whatever I Need to Be To Get Your Votes – a most dangerous brand of politician. They have no ideological center and will always lick a finger and stick it up to determine which way the wind is blowing prior to voting for or against anything. He is also Bat Shit Crazy as Fits likes to point out.

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Campbell March 3, 2013 at 2:10 pm

With that limp wrist, he looks like a fag to me.

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The Colonel (R) March 1, 2013 at 11:54 am

Looks like a TV preacher, middle school principal or a self help book guru.

As for his politics, he’s a WINTBTGYV Republican – a sub-species we have way to many of in the Republican Party. WINTBTGYV’s are the Whatever I Need to Be To Get Your Votes – a most dangerous brand of politician. They have no ideological center and will always lick a finger and stick it up to determine which way the wind is blowing prior to voting for or against anything. He is also Bat Shit Crazy as Fits likes to point out.

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Campbell March 3, 2013 at 2:10 pm

With that limp wrist, he looks like a fag to me.

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Philip Branton March 1, 2013 at 1:07 pm

Hmm….lets think about this for a minute. From what is written, in comparison to what reaction DeMINT or Scott or Clyburn has had in DC, maybe Kuhn will be the ONLY one to go to DC to SCREAM and kick for what is right for South Carolina..!?> We wonder if Wil Folks has made good faith efforts to actually get a microphone in front of Mr. Kuhn to ask some interview questions that we could ALL listen too here on this website..!? Matter of FACT, is Wil going to interview ANY of the candidates on CAMERA or microphone..? Heck, at least interview Jenny Sanford and ask questions about Colbert-Busch..?! Does Sic Willie want to make his website relevant at all..??

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KevinS March 2, 2013 at 10:04 pm

Phillip – You are a friggin nut case. Just because you have a keyboard and some jumbled thoughts running through your head doesn’t mean you have to waste energy putting them out there for the world to see. Remember – it is far better to shut up and have people think you are stupid than to open your mouth and give them proof that you are completely absent of mental activity.

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Philip Branton March 1, 2013 at 1:07 pm

Hmm….lets think about this for a minute. From what is written, in comparison to what reaction DeMINT or Scott or Clyburn has had in DC, maybe Kuhn will be the ONLY one to go to DC to SCREAM and kick for what is right for South Carolina..!?> We wonder if Wil Folks has made good faith efforts to actually get a microphone in front of Mr. Kuhn to ask some interview questions that we could ALL listen too here on this website..!? Matter of FACT, is Wil going to interview ANY of the candidates on CAMERA or microphone..? Heck, at least interview Jenny Sanford and ask questions about Colbert-Busch..?! Does Sic Willie want to make his website relevant at all..??

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KevinS March 2, 2013 at 10:04 pm

Phillip – You are a friggin nut case. Just because you have a keyboard and some jumbled thoughts running through your head doesn’t mean you have to waste energy putting them out there for the world to see. Remember – it is far better to shut up and have people think you are stupid than to open your mouth and give them proof that you are completely absent of mental activity.

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BinxBolling March 1, 2013 at 1:42 pm

Haha…I knew nothing about Kuhn before reading this, except that I always envisioned Cartman’s “The Coon” character every time I saw the guy’s name. Turns out the description might actually fit a little bit. Here’s a good campaign trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-8U1x-RGYA

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BinxBolling March 1, 2013 at 1:42 pm

Haha…I knew nothing about Kuhn before reading this, except that I always envisioned Cartman’s “The Coon” character every time I saw the guy’s name. Turns out the description might actually fit a little bit. Here’s a good campaign trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-8U1x-RGYA

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Good2go March 1, 2013 at 2:03 pm

Where was Mark when Kuhn was shouting at Jenny? No wonder Jenny lost interest in politics and did not want him to run again in 2006.

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Good2go March 1, 2013 at 2:03 pm

Where was Mark when Kuhn was shouting at Jenny? No wonder Jenny lost interest in politics and did not want him to run again in 2006.

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Hummus March 1, 2013 at 2:04 pm

I don’t feel Fits is trying to “set up” anything. Kuhn is absolutely insane, as anyone who’s met him knows. And Nash has called for an audit to the Fed, but fought tooth and nail and eventually resigned to keep his own sheriff’s office from being audited. Grooms and Sanford are the top two candidates, regardless of what may be posted on Fits about other candidates.

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Hummus March 1, 2013 at 2:04 pm

I don’t feel Fits is trying to “set up” anything. Kuhn is absolutely insane, as anyone who’s met him knows. And Nash has called for an audit to the Fed, but fought tooth and nail and eventually resigned to keep his own sheriff’s office from being audited. Grooms and Sanford are the top two candidates, regardless of what may be posted on Fits about other candidates.

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7 Church Street, Charleston March 1, 2013 at 3:04 pm

http://www.weichert.com/27353838/

— 38 Church Street, downtown Charleston, owned by WELL-KNOWN DEMOCRATS Charles and Celeste Patrick.

— 40 Church Street, next door, is the home of “Krazy Kuhn.”

During his Senate campaign race, Kuhn went over to the Patricks and asked for a $1,000 campaign donation, “because we’re neighbors.”

The Patricks replied, “Sorry, John. We’re DEMOCRATS and support your OPPONENT.”

Kuhn was dumbstruck. “But we’re NEIGHBORS,” he argued.

The Patricks, sensing Kuhn was simply dumb, told Kuhn, “Please leave our house.”

Charlestonians have been laughing at Kuhn ever since.

Kuhn truly is dumb, nutty, crazy — lacking common sense.

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Philip Branton March 1, 2013 at 5:08 pm

Hummus…..excellent display of use of open sourced information. Do you have a link to the article in which this conversation was reported.? We would like to give props to the reporter for such work.

Hummus….your use of tactic “three” in using the word “crazy” to describe Mr. Kuhn is rather pointless unless your going to use your REAL name..!! It is hard to fathom a man that obviously pays a lot of taxes on a house next to the one you have in your link is crazy..?? He obviously pays for Hurricane Insurance, Flood Insurance, and homeowners Insurance that employs a lot of fellow DEMOCRATS and Republican donors…!!! Hell….what is crazy about JOB creation..??

Hummus, we lament that YOU fail to recognize that both Kuhn and his neighbor and all readers of FITSNEWS are in fact SLAVES to foreign OIL….!! Do you have a choice at the PUMP ….Mr. Hummus..!?

Heck, we know a LOT of Arabs that love to eat “Hummus” that do not have a CHOICE at the pump either….their SLAVES too….!!!!

Mr. “Hummus”…….we love YOU…..

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7 Church Street, Charleston March 1, 2013 at 3:04 pm

http://www.weichert.com/27353838/

— 38 Church Street, downtown Charleston, owned by WELL-KNOWN DEMOCRATS Charles and Celeste Patrick.

— 40 Church Street, next door, is the home of “Krazy Kuhn.”

During his Senate campaign race, Kuhn went over to the Patricks and asked for a $1,000 campaign donation, “because we’re neighbors.”

The Patricks replied, “Sorry, John. We’re DEMOCRATS and support your OPPONENT.”

Kuhn was dumbstruck. “But we’re NEIGHBORS,” he argued.

The Patricks, sensing Kuhn was simply dumb, told Kuhn, “Please leave our house.”

Charlestonians have been laughing at Kuhn ever since.

Kuhn truly is dumb, nutty, crazy — lacking common sense.

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Philip Branton March 1, 2013 at 5:08 pm

Hummus…..excellent display of use of open sourced information. Do you have a link to the article in which this conversation was reported.? We would like to give props to the reporter for such work.

Hummus….your use of tactic “three” in using the word “crazy” to describe Mr. Kuhn is rather pointless unless your going to use your REAL name..!! It is hard to fathom a man that obviously pays a lot of taxes on a house next to the one you have in your link is crazy..?? He obviously pays for Hurricane Insurance, Flood Insurance, and homeowners Insurance that employs a lot of fellow DEMOCRATS and Republican donors…!!! Hell….what is crazy about JOB creation..??

Hummus, we lament that YOU fail to recognize that both Kuhn and his neighbor and all readers of FITSNEWS are in fact SLAVES to foreign OIL….!! Do you have a choice at the PUMP ….Mr. Hummus..!?

Heck, we know a LOT of Arabs that love to eat “Hummus” that do not have a CHOICE at the pump either….their SLAVES too….!!!!

Mr. “Hummus”…….we love YOU…..

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Moman50 March 1, 2013 at 3:37 pm

Another second tier candidate.Will jostle with Patrick,Bostic ,Nash McCoy,and Moffly for fifth place behind the top four,Grooms,Limehouse,Sanford and Turner.(not predicted finish,just that those four will be in the top four).

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Moman50 March 1, 2013 at 3:37 pm

Another second tier candidate.Will jostle with Patrick,Bostic ,Nash McCoy,and Moffly for fifth place behind the top four,Grooms,Limehouse,Sanford and Turner.(not predicted finish,just that those four will be in the top four).

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Sarah Piper March 2, 2013 at 2:27 pm

I heard he called Jenny a bitch during that confrontation in front of multiple people. Class act. Can’t we find one person in this race without any freaking baggage. Geesh.

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Sarah Piper March 2, 2013 at 2:27 pm

I heard he called Jenny a bitch during that confrontation in front of multiple people. Class act. Can’t we find one person in this race without any freaking baggage. Geesh.

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Bert Parks March 2, 2013 at 9:26 pm

This guy is a real porker… looks even more pudgy on TV… all the TV commercials now say the same thing… only thing different is the wives and kids… in that race Bostic wins, his wife is gorgeous.

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Bert Parks March 2, 2013 at 9:26 pm

This guy is a real porker… looks even more pudgy on TV… all the TV commercials now say the same thing… only thing different is the wives and kids… in that race Bostic wins, his wife is gorgeous.

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Pawpaw March 4, 2013 at 2:19 pm

Man, this is Monday already! Take down this sombitch… put up picture of somebody who doesn’t live in south of broad Charleston. Larry Grooms, Ray Nash, Mark Sanford, anybody… preferably not another fucking lawyer

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Pawpaw March 4, 2013 at 2:19 pm

Man, this is Monday already! Take down this sombitch… put up picture of somebody who doesn’t live in south of broad Charleston. Larry Grooms, Ray Nash, Mark Sanford, anybody… preferably not another fucking lawyer

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