By FITSNews || State Senator and Democratic gubernatorial candidate Vincent Sheheen kicked off his 2010 general election campaign against GOP nominee Nikki Haley on Wednesday by making an overt appeal to South Carolina-owned businesses.
At a press conference in Columbia, S.C., Sheheen offered his first specific policy idea of the new race – a proposal that would give South Carolina businesses a 20 percent advantage when competing with out-of-state firms for contracts awarded by state government. Obviously, that’s a big deal in a state where 40 percent of the economy is comprised of government spending – one of the highest percentages in the entire country.
Still, Sheheen’s idea is pure political pandering – and it blithely ignores the real issue facing South Carolina’s economy.
The problem isn’t where state contracts are going – it’s the fact that there are simply too damn many of them.
Seriously, if government needs to procure a good or a service to perform one of its core functions (like buying new police cars), then it should bid those contracts competitively and then go with the provider that offers the best value. Whether that company is in Camden or Calcutta makes absolutely no difference to us, nor should it make any difference to taxpayers.
More troubling than the political pandering, though, is Sheheen’s apparent subscription to the ridiculous notion that government should play a leading role in job creation – a failed approach that has kept our state’s unemployment rate high and income levels low during both good and bad economic times.
As S.C. Rep. (and newly-minted GOP first district congressional nominee) Tim Scott said in a recent TV ad, “businesses create jobs when government gets out of the way.”
Exactly.
Government needs to scale back its responsibilities and perform its core functions with efficiency, not continue to pick winners and losers in the marketplace via gimmicks like Sheheen’s “20 percent off” plan.
Pic: The State
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 12:05 pm
The important thing to note is that his proposal is all sorts of bat shiat insane… Sheheen has now shown himself on day 1 to be completely not serious when it comes to economic matters…
http://www.eva.state.va.us/learn-about-eva/files/listing-states-preferences.pdf
Instate companies will raise their prices when they sell to the government.
Bidding on contracts is not free. Out of state companies will skip SC and focus on other states. There will be less competition.
This will encourage the government to spend even more money because they can say they’re “creating jobs”. They’re picking winners and losers.
No state goes as high as 20%… 15% is the cap and that’s only for very special circumstances… there is no blanket 15% incentive… 10% is about the highest and SC is already there…
Otis Rawl must account for his clown of a candidate. If they wish to hitch their wagon to this moron I hope they’re prepared to go over a cliff… They will not come out unscathed.
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Nikki and the SC GOP need to hurry their asses and release a statement on this before Sheheen backtracks… and he will…
By eggaday June 23, 2010 at 12:20 pm
I believe the state in this time of financial crisis should be more than willing to only consider SC businesses and contractors, putting SC citizens back to work, or helping them keep their jobs.
Don’t Repukicans talk about creating jobs all the time?
here is a way to actually do it.
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Don’t approve that last comment(or this one)… I’m willing to wait and see what happens…
By mansejolly June 23, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Seems like this would be an Article IV Privileges and Immunities Clause violation. Anyone?
By Boz Martin June 23, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Since Sheheen is the Democrat condidate for Gov, maybe he’d do well to look at something that both SC libertartian-minded reformers (of both parties) and the mostly Obama-loyalist Feds are scrutinizing here in the state: The runaway unfair trad practices and crony capitalism of the national, state and local Chambers of Commerce.
Since out-of-control crony capitalism is a major component of both leftist and rightest authoritarian regimes, the supposedly fiscally conservative Sheheen should join in with the growing chorus calling for an end to the Chamber hegemony that effectively hobbles the small businesses that they compete against.
Let’s face it — the only reason that Obama is in opposition to the National Chamber of Commerce is that they aren’t SEIU compliant. And the only reason that so-called conservatives in the SC political establishment such as Gresham Barrett haven’t gone after the SCCC is that they have been in bed with them doing the pay-to-play equivalent of a vigourous, sweaty session of 69.
Could it be that the Dems in the state are basically doing the same type of mutual suckage? It would seem so, if Myrtle Beach is any indicator. Here, most of the Dems have supported those who represent the grossly incestuous relationship of the Grand Strand Chamber of Commerce with municipal government, most likely due to back-channel funding for social programs upon which many of the region’s African-American community are dependent — as well as the international land-grab that is at the heart of the whole “ChamberGate” and City gov social engineering scheme called Take Back May, which profits many of the Democratic party honchos in the yatching set.
I would call Vincent’s attention to the following FITSnews article on how Barret has been involded in this maggot-ridden RICO-bait situalion:
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Coastal Campaign Finance Scam: Who’s Investigating?
By FITSNews ||
An alleged “pay to play” scandal involving numerous Grand Strand politicians is on the verge of being swept completely under the rug, sources close to the various inquiries tell FITS.
In fact, the only agency still actively investigating the scandal is the S.C. State Ethics Commission, which lacks the authority to file criminal charges.
For those of you unfamiliar with this “alleged” scam, it all started last May when the Horry County legislative delegation pushed through a one cent sales tax hike on local residents – the proceeds of which are being handed over directly to the Myrtle Beach Area Chamber of Commerce.
Yes, you read that right … a bunch of “Republican” lawmakers actually sponsored a tax increase that explicitly funnels money into the bank account of non-governmental entity.
Why did they do that?
Well, according to numerous taxpayer advocates on the coast (and frankly, anyone who isn’t blind), they were paid handsomely to do so.
Specifically, these coastal lawmakers – along with U.S. Rep. Gresham Barrett and several city council members – collectively received nearly $350,000 in campaign contributions from a shadowy network of “corporations.” Critics insist that these “corporations” were nothing more than cover for a slush fund administered by former Chamber Chairman, local attorney Shep Guyton.
It has also been alleged that the Chamber provided the funding for the donations, drawing against the estimated $18 million in tax revenue the scam is expected to generate.
Indeed, the Chamber had already begun to spend the revenue from this tax hike before it had even become law (guess that’s what happens when you know your votes are bought and paid for).
So … who are the lawmakers involved in this shadiness?
S.C. Reps. Thad Viers, Nelson Hardwick, George Hearn and Alan Clemmons.
Oh, and Sen. Ray Cleary.
Checks were sent to Rep. Tracy Edge, but he declined them.
Among the most damaging allegations against each of these lawmakers is that nearly all of the approximately $350,000 was drawn as cashiers checks from the same bank – on the same day. Sources tell FITS the checks were even delivered to each politician in the same envelope.
Obviously, using multiple corporations to make donations to political candidates isn’t against the law. However, the Chamber could be in hot water if it were ultimately revealed as the funding source for the donations. As it stands now, though, the Chamber is sticking to its original story – namely that its leaders simply called “like-minded businesses” and asked them to support the tax hike.
Mmmm-hmmm.
To look at a timeline of the reported events related to this scandal, check out the documents below, which were provided exclusively to FITS …
WEB EXTRAS
Scandal Timeline A — http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MB-Timeline-Page-A.pdf
Scandal Timeline B — http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MB-timeline-page-ba.pdf — http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MB-Timeline-Page-C.pdf
Scandal Timeline C
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By Florida Watching June 23, 2010 at 12:26 pm
At least Sheheen tries…….Haley just rattles off talk points which she doesn’t even understand. Please have someone in the Haley camp explain to her what transparency really means………
She is not even close.
By Soft Sigh from Hell June 23, 2010 at 12:31 pm
“the ridiculous notion that government should play a leading role in job creation”
This red state practically lives on government-created economic input.
Savannah River Site — a massive white elephant welfare center for white people.
Shaw, Charleston, Beaufort, and Congaree air bases. Ft. Jackson and the Parris Island.
The SC Public Service authority IS a business.
Even private industry is big on government contracts: FN and Force Protection.
Plus we have endless state agencies and a large number of federal ones with decent sized staffs.
Governments already do play a huge role in job creation here. What of these do conservatives want to eliminate? (Yeah, yeah, I know: sell the SCPSA and lay off a bunch of civilian agency workers elsewhere, but no one at SRS.)
After abandoning Main Street America for decades now, and focusing instead on Wall Street internationalists, it is amusing to see conservatives feigning interest in domestic and even local job creation.
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 12:37 pm
More businesses will boycott over Sheheen’s dumb proposal than over the Confederate Flag…
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 12:45 pm
eggaday, Florida Watching, Soft Sigh from Hell
This is not job creation… this is a tax on everyone who the government doesn’t choose… everyone but a select few get punished…
By No Way! June 23, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Sheheen is in no way a friend of S.C. business. In fact, his candidacy is clearly built like that of many democrats: say one thing while believing and acting in the opposite direction. His nose has clearly grown since this speech!
By The BOSS June 23, 2010 at 1:00 pm
Sheheen plans to do the two things that will not pass the sniff test for S.C.:
1. Raise Taxes
2. Agree with obama (lc)
Thus, he should prepare to lose! Go back to lawyering!
By Turd Ferguson June 23, 2010 at 1:01 pm
I smell something here . . .
Sheheen has lost his wits on this speech! Republicans should jump on the effort to discredit him . . . as if he is not doing a fine job of that himself!
Turd
By James June 23, 2010 at 1:14 pm
Camden versus Calcutta is brilliant. The governor’s race should officially be called C vs. C from here on out.
By Dave June 23, 2010 at 1:16 pm
‘Businesses create jobs when government gets out of the way’ is laughably short-sighted. I won’t get long winded, since you people have short attention spans, but businesses create jobs when those jobs generate more profit than any other alternative investment.
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Losing a contract to an instate company because of a 10% difference is one thing… the possibility of losing a contract because of a 20% difference is insane… if they ever lost a contract because of a difference between 15-20% they may never try again.
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Sheheen said he has spent the last couple weeks talking to businesses… did he happen to talk to any that didn’t have state government contracts?
By janet June 23, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Pandering? You want to talk about pandering? Virtually everyone of the candidates who won was pandering to the Christians right. Would Nikki Haley be any less qualified for governor if she was still a Sikh? I have a hard time buying her Christian values given the evidence of her extracurricular activities. The so-called “Christians” wanted to impeach Sanford for having an affair but they want to elect Haley despite the fact that she could have had an affair. Makes no sense. It just proves that those who pander are rewarded by a lazy electorate.
More surprising is the fact that a guy who couldn’t pass one of the easiest bar exams in the country will probably be the next Attorney General. He ran against a very qualified, intellectually gifted attorney who has a firm grasp on the principles that could have made a huge difference in SC’s economic growth.
I guess the voters wanted to elect someone like themselves – products of an under rated public education system who weren’t taught to think for themselves.
By ArtVandelay June 23, 2010 at 1:59 pm
As S.C. Rep. (and newly-minted GOP first district congressional nominee) Tim Scott said in a recent TV ad, “businesses create jobs when government gets out of the way.”
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Are you FREAKIN kidding me! When are you supply side proponents going to learn, Your economic theory does not work…you had nearly 12 years of this policy in place (The end of Clinton’s presidency and Bush’s full term) AND Reagan’s 8 years to test this out, the results are always the same, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. In the latest example of your theory at work this country was nearly thrown into another depression off your notion of “deregulate and the market will govern itself”. We aren’t even out of this mess (11% unemployment SC) and you have already forgotten its lessons.
By Florida Watching June 23, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Brian Williams of NBC Nightly News did an excellent report on the removal of Gen. McCrystal………will the State of South Caroling be next???
By poster June 23, 2010 at 2:03 pm
If Nikki Haley wants to “reform” Gov. she needs to name names of who prevented reform over the last 8 years when Sanford was gov as she is the Party in power’s Nominee.
I assume Jakie Knotts….who else Haley! Getting rid of who will help you reform???
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 2:03 pm
“We aren’t even out of this mess (11% unemployment SC) and you have already forgotten its lessons.”
Um, how’s that stimulus working?
http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/stimulus-vs-unemployment-january-dots.jpg
By Florida Watching June 23, 2010 at 2:05 pm
They are alleged affairs….with a myriad of circumstantial evidence. I believe past and present performances of the two will be the deciding difference.
By Jim June 23, 2010 at 2:07 pm
As a South Carolinian, I wish all of the Federal and State Government spending in this state could be suspended for one year. If that happened it would be hard on everyone, but as a positive most of the most of the right wing nuts and libertarians in this state would be out of a job, broke or both, and forced to move elsewhere.
By Florida Watching June 23, 2010 at 2:13 pm
So……who would like to contribute to Nikki’s accomplishments designed to benefit SC in the last 10 years?
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 2:32 pm
“As a South Carolinian, I wish all of the Federal and State Government spending in this state could be suspended for one year.”
If every state adopted Sheheen’s proposal it would be a huge kick in the balls to the national economy…
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 2:34 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customs_war
By Anonymous June 23, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Once state business owners grasp what this would mean, it will be immensely popular with them. Sheheen is trying to draw a particularly stark contrast with Haley, and I think this will help his fundraising (probably the real reason for the proposal).
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 2:39 pm
” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customs_war ”
Actually that’s not quite right… but don’t think other state’s won’t notice what SC does and start acting appropriately…
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By crackahasscrackah June 23, 2010 at 2:55 pm
@ Yarrr
Out here in the country, we like to say that “a hit dog hollers.”
So, you are affiliated with an out-of-state company that does a lot of contracting with SC state government, huh? Move your company here or move on. South Carolina is culturally as rock-solid conservative as any state of the union (well outside of Charleston, Beaufort and Horry, anyway). But if you think that our special brand of SC conservatism in an anyway related to the Libertarianism / Paulism (well, outside of Charleston, Beaufort and Horry , anyway), then “you don’t know nothing” (another saying we have out here).
Haley may very well defeat Sheheen (my guess is 52-48) but it won’t be because of this sort of issue. Sheheen’s position favoring in-state companies (read employers of US and not employers of THEM) will be overwhelmingly supported by conservative SC Republicans. Haley would be a damn fool to do anything other than ignore this proposal and hope it never gains traction with the media.
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 3:04 pm
“South Carolina is culturally as rock-solid conservative as any state of the union (well outside of Charleston, Beaufort and Horry, anyway). But if you think that our special brand of SC conservatism in an anyway related to the Libertarianism ”
So you’re basically jackasses who don’t understand economics? You’re not conservatives, you’re slaves.
“Dat Shehan is gonna gets us sum jobs bye keep’n dem forners bizness out”
I will place my bet… Nikki beats Sheheen by 20 points…
By ArtVandelay June 23, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Um, how’s that stimulus working?
http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/stimulus-vs-unemployment-january-dots.jpg
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Yeeeeeeeeeeah as I am sure you are NOT aware any calculations of the stimulus’s affects on jobs is a good guess at best, since we don’t have a frame of reference to forsee what the job losses would have been without it…so spare me any “proof” one way or another.
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/04/stimulus-jobs-the-fine-print/
Furthermore, where did I say a government involvement is the answer? Unlike a blind idealouge most people realize that neither supply side econ nor rampant government job creation and market manipulation is the answer. The answer is where do these two ideals meet to give everyone and every business an equal opportunity to succeed.
By Jacksonville Bill June 23, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Don’t be so quick to dismiss what may actually be a good idea for your state, even if it comes from a democrat. It may be hard to believe, but not all democrats are bleeding-heart liberals and flaming communists. In fact, if South Carolina is truly in an anti-incumbency mood, perhaps it should consider firing the republican party. After all, it’s been in control of everything for way too long. Think about it. South Carolina sends a message to incumbents all across the board by sending the republicans packing.
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 3:15 pm
“Don’t be so quick to dismiss what may actually be a good idea for your state, even if it comes from a democrat.”
Not even deep blue states are stupid enough to do what Sheheen has proposed… California maxes out at 15% and you have to jump through a million hoops to get to that… so how about being open minded to what I have said? How about opening up that PDF and comparing what other states do to what Sheheen has proposed? Are you that open minded?
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 3:18 pm
This was not a “good idea”… it is an desperate embarrassing reckless demagogic idea from someone who has not done his research…
By lando June 23, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Let’s eliminate the state income tax.
I’d vote for Sheheenie if he’d support true tax reform.
By Abe Froman June 23, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Sheheen’s proposal is likely an unconstitutional discrimination against interstate commerce. Google “dormant commerce clause” and judge for yourself.
By Toyota Kawaski June 23, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Republicans for Sheheen
By DCav June 23, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Fits, this article presents, at best, a juvenile understanding of basic economics. Yes, government spending is a problem. But that does not mean that keeping as much money in state as possible is a bad idea–most economists would argue the exact opposite. Money spent in the state is recirculated in the state, where as money going to Calcutta would, of course, serve to boslter their economy rather than ours. In simple terms, you always want more money coming in that going out. This works at the micro and macro level. The short-term gain of a discount price is nothing compared to value of having money recirculated within the state. Then again, I don’t know what I should expect from a fiscally conservative Republican. You only thing you people ever understand about budgets is how to run up previously unimaginable defecits and send the country into recession…Reagan…Bush…blah blah blah.
By crackahasscrackah June 23, 2010 at 4:22 pm
@ yarrr
Ooops. You hit enter too quickly when you posted
“So you’re basically jackasses who don’t understand economics? You’re not conservatives, you’re slaves.”
With the use of “you’re” you have not only revealed yourself as someone who is affiliated with an out of state company that contracts with SC government, you let us know you don’t even live (i.e., vote, pay taxes, etc.) here.
Move along, folks (not Folks, but folks), nothing to see here.
And then to show us all you know NOTHING about SC politics, you posted this pearl of wisdom, “I will place my bet… Nikki beats Sheheen by 20 points…”
Popular incumbent (yes, he used to be very popular) Mark Sanford only beat dumbass Tommy Moore by 10 points and THAT was the widest margin of victory of any Republican ever in a contested race for Governor (1992 was NOT contested before you start googling).
A little advice yarrr, despite all the wisecracking and tomfoolery on this site – most of folks (or even Folks most of the time) on here are actually pretty savvy politically. So, if you want to come on here with beating your one-issue (one self-serving issue apparently) without knowing your out-of-state-ass from a hole in the ground, your going to get it handed it to you.
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 4:29 pm
“Republicans for Sheheen” would push him up to 40% of the vote…
“Fits, this article presents, at best, a juvenile understanding of basic economics. Yes, government spending is a problem. But that does not mean that keeping as much money in state as possible is a bad idea–most economists would argue the exact opposite.”
What if every state adopted Sheheen’s proposal?
By crackahasscrackah June 23, 2010 at 4:34 pm
By Abe Froman on June 23rd, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Sheheen’s proposal is likely an unconstitutional discrimination against interstate commerce. Google “dormant commerce clause” and judge for yourself.
Honest Abe,
Practically every state give some advantage to in-state companies when it comes to contracting with the state. Why is this not violative of the commerce clause, you ask? Simple, because the commerce is with the state. Google “the 10th Amendment” and “state sovereignty” and judge for yourself.
By Come on June 23, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Yarr,
If in-state companies are going to raise their bids then you ought to be able to still compete. But that’s not going to happen and you’re no economist. You’re just a self-interested, self-righteous douchebag. We don’t want your business asshole. Maybe if you spent more time putting together meaningful bids rather than pandering bullshit, you wouldn’t feel so threatened by this proposal.
By Genomic Repairman June 23, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Seriously protectionism, is he taking this from US policy playbook that’s 100 years old. This shit does not work.
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 5:02 pm
“If in-state companies are going to raise their bids then you ought to be able to still compete. But that’s not going to happen and you’re no economist. ”
You are an absolute fucking joke… 20% is huge… that’s a lot of wiggle room to overcharge… out of state companies that get looked over because an instate company submitted a 15-20% more expensive bid will tell South Carolina to fuck off forever… submitting bids isn’t free… after a while they won’t even try which will reduce compeition and that will give instate companies even more wiggle room…
By Abe Froman June 23, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Crackah, the market participant exception to dormant commerce clause allows a state participating as a consumer to exercise favoritism, just like any consumer, to in state companies for state contracting, but the exception is not absolute and has nothing to do with the 10th Amendment.
By Jacksonville Bill June 23, 2010 at 5:22 pm
I know absolutely nothing about economics, so I have no idea what kind of impact his proposed changes would have on South Carolina. I take issue with the author’s assertion that Mr. Sheheen is guilty of political pandering. He’s putting ideas up for debate. There is nothing wrong with that. You guys do like ideas, don’t you? Another thing I took issue with was the following statement: “Whether that company is in Camden or Calcutta makes absolutely no difference to us, nor should it make any difference to taxpayers.” I beg to differ. I’d be willing to be that many South Carolinians would like to have that contract work, and that it would generate income for your state. Finally, it strikes me as odd that any republican would take issue with the state bidding its work out to private enterprises. Take it from someone who has worked as a contractor for on a government project, it’s just what every republican loves to crow about: getting the most bang for your buck.
By yarrrrr June 23, 2010 at 5:43 pm
“I take issue with the author’s assertion that Mr. Sheheen is guilty of political pandering.”
Oh come on… this is the embarrassingly demagogic…
“He’s putting ideas up for debate. There is nothing wrong with that.”
The fact that he put up this idea for debate should disqualify him.
“”"In Columbia, Sheheen met at the R.L. Bryan Company to make that point. He says the longtime South Carolina company is suffering from state government outsourcing contracts.”"”
http://www.southcarolinaradionetwork.com/2010/06/23/sheheen-his-campaign-officially-underway-audio/
Wah Wah Wah … Daddy Sheheen will protect me and give me a job.
South Carolina already has an in state incentive program for government contracts. It’s either 7% or 10% depending on something that I can’t quite remember. 10% is on the extreme high end for this type of thing…
By eggaday June 23, 2010 at 5:45 pm
hey yarr, i am thoroughly versed in how the state government treats people. believe me , i have gotten more than a belly full. but what i really want to say is that it is all fixin to come back at em.
now you newly annointed people, whatcha gonna do to help the “small” people?
By Jacksonville Bill June 23, 2010 at 6:12 pm
It’s your state. You have to live with the consequences of your vote. All I’m suggesting is that you actually give serious consideration to the ideas of the democrats. Not every idea by a democrat is bad. In fact, some of their ideas may pull your state out of this recession. Even if the idea isn’t good at face value, it may still have merit if it is modified. I’m done here. Good luck.
By 1boringoldman June 23, 2010 at 6:15 pm
Now, about Will Folks’ allegations about Nikki. Anything coming soon?
By Boz Martin June 23, 2010 at 6:17 pm
crackasscrackah, “you’re” is correct English, as used in your quote from Yarr. Are you saying that if one uses proper English one must not be from around here? Your post was quite confusing on that point. I come from a family of Carolina lint-heads, farmers and tent preachers myself, but I got as good an education as you can get in SC. I enjoy slipping into “crackah” vernacular quite often, and I’m a big fan of “redneck” humor. Sometimes I slip back and forth, just for fun and to relieve boredom, as I also do with Yiddishisms and ghetto slang. But when I’m using mostly proper English, does it mark ME as an out-of-state contractor that does biz with the state?
By Boz Martin June 23, 2010 at 6:27 pm
The crony capitalism involved where the SC GOP establishment is concerned is not truly conservative, as I understand the term, and it certainly is not a component of “free market” capitalism or conservatism.
To underscore my point about Sheeheen, and to show that despite his claims to be a conservative, he’s really just an elitist establisment GOP good ‘ol boy in Blue Dog Dem drag, consider the fact that he’s already been endorsed by Gresham Barrett’s favorite incestuous political bedfellows, those masters of sticking it to small businesses and proping up the crony capitalist Big Dogs — the SC Chamber of Commerce:
http://www.wfae.org/wfae/1_87_316.cfm?action=display&id=6255
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SC chamber endorses Sheheen
Christina Austin
Wednesday June 23, 2010
South Carolina Democratic gubernatorial nominee Vincent Sheheen has a lot of work to do to build name recognition across the state.
He received a boost Wednesday when the South Carolina Chamber of Commerce endorsed him instead of Republican Nikki Haley.
Chamber president and CEO Otis Rawl says the Chamber believes Sheheen can work well with lawmakers.
And it doesn’t hurt that Sheheen and Governor Mark Sanford are not political allies.
“Our governor and assembly have just battled for eight years now and we’ve been kind of at a standstill in a lot of areas,” said Rawl. “I think that’s one area that we have a chance to really be successful in is the cooperative efforts between the governor and the legislature to move South Carolina forward.”
Sanford is a big supporter of Haley and encouraged her to run governor.
South Carolina’s Republican-controlled Legislature and Sanford have repeatedly clashed.
Last year, for example, legislative leaders filed a lawsuit to force Sanford to accept $700 million in federal stimulus money.
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By Florida Watching June 23, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Fits – Maybe economics is not one of your strong suits. Let’s get back on track with something that you are intimately familiar with. Pop up a picture of Marchant. Give him a call. Do an article. You two apparently have something in common, so I read.
By James June 23, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Cook,
Get a life.
Sincerely,
Jay
By Jim June 23, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Go Sheheen, Great Idea!
By crackahasscrackah June 23, 2010 at 8:21 pm
@Boz Martin
I fully understand that “you’re” is correct usage. Read for content, buddy. When yarrr uses “you’re” instead of “we’re” he exposes himself as NOT being a citizen and resident of South Carolina. That was the point. Not sure how you missed it. Maybe you were too busy running a bunch of individual words that having meaning into a sequence of them that does not.
@Abe Froman
Not talking about the market exception is one issue. But in the end, its the 10th Amendment that allows the State of South Carolina to contract with whomever it damn well pleases. There is absolutely no requirement that contracts go to the lowest bidder. The state could decide as a matter of policy that it will not contract for services with any companies more than 100 miles from Columbia if it wanted. No way that federal government could stop them. Sorry about that but federalism is a bitch. . .
By Billy Bob June 23, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Hey Will,
Wonder if Haley could release documentation that she actually performed work for the State contractor, Wilbur Smith, or would she take a ‘legislative exemption’ to that as well?
For someone preaching transparency, Hot Crotch doesn’t think it applies to her!!
Look like an IRS investigation is warranted.
By Cancerman June 23, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Sheheen has my vote!!
By Billy Bob June 23, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Oh, wait,
Hot Crotch is employed as a consultant like her counter part Knotts is to the convicted felon Welton Waites, StarTech at 300K/yr.!!
More SC GOP criminals!!
BTW, what happened to my previous post?? Can’t handle the truth about your bitch??
By Jerry June 23, 2010 at 9:14 pm
let’s review for a minute some of Mrs. Haley’s accomplishments over the past few years. One of her legislative ideas passed, just one, people that wash your hair in salons don’t have to be licensed, kudos to her. She used her office to triple her income, too bad all South Carolinians don’t have that ability. She has one idea, transparency, with the caveat that it doesn’t apply to her. You want to talk about pandering, look at her interview with the SC Palmetto Brigade or something like that. She just parroted back their guided questions right back at them. I am sure if they wanted her to she would have called Abraham Lincoln a RINO. And oh yeah, not having guts enough to call for Sanford to resign, but why would she, she is bed with him and his supporters. She is one helluva public servant.
By ceilidh10 June 23, 2010 at 9:24 pm
high unemployment due to government? what ajoke!
The high unemployment arises from years of do-nothing Republican leadership that ignores the little guy in favor of the big guy who everyone hope will create wealth when he gets tax cuts.
Sorry, rich guys buy Hummers for themselves and their girlfriends when they save on taxes. They do not care about the Average Joe.
A STATE THAT IS BY AND FOR RICH PEOPLE is bound to fail in areas of employment and pay and education.
By ceilidh10 June 23, 2010 at 9:30 pm
So Carolina is way too poor, and way too 50th in too many categories, to go through 4 more years of Republicanism and the concentration of wealth in the hands of a conservative few.
I think Venezuela under Hugo Chavez is run by an oligarchy (like SC) for the benefit of the majority poor (like SC).
Haley if she wins will keep us in 50th place for 4 more years.
By yvette ramey June 23, 2010 at 9:39 pm
In response to Lando:
Mark Sanford advocated (early on) in his campain,for governor,
to “eliminate state taxes.”
By countryboy June 23, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Well now. I posted to another story here that Haley would beat She-heen in November by a 52-48 margin, but that was before he made this dumbass proposal. If he is not a better thinker (or has better advisors) than this, Haley is going to absolutely kill him in November. Now I am thinking she will get 60% plus. Dumbass proposal ! South Carolina already has (in general) wage advantages over many other states. This is ridiculous.
The photo above is probably not related to the story but the look Haley is giving She-heen sure is. It’s like she is thinking – “WTF is this clown proposing”?
By FITS Gals June 23, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Billy Bob,
Both of your comments are on here. We moderate comments so spam doesn’t trickle through. If the founding editor could figure out how to move with a purpose, it would happen faster!
xoxo,
FITS Gals
By ceilidh10 June 23, 2010 at 10:18 pm
hey countryboy, you are a smart gent i am sure, so tell me what is the percentage if it comes out that Haley really did spread those Indian legs for the white boys?
By callibouly June 24, 2010 at 5:54 am
this site is fun to read for unintended humor, rumor mongering, t ‘n a, and character assassination, but you have zero credibility when it comes to objectively assessing any policy ideas. i guess we can expect idiotic, hyper partisanship on behalf of nimrata for the next 4 months. the SC republican party is as goos as dead. 62% give sanford a favorable rating and 2 out of 3 SC republicans voted for sanford’s handpicked and bought and paid for successor in the runoff. which, in effect, means, SC republicans are pure automatons who cant think/act on their own. what a joke.
By countryboy June 24, 2010 at 6:53 am
ceilidh10 – You asked what the percentage (in the Haley versus obama white&lite, aka she-heen race) would be if it “comes out that Haley really did spread those legs for the white boys”. Well now, let me see. Taking this in a historical perspective, I would say, based on the recent past, when the good old boys (and girls) trashed Mrs. Haley, her support skyrocketed. Therefore, I would have to guess that she would win by something like, oh say, 65 to 35% over obama white & lite. Of course that is just a swag. Could be just 60-40, could be 70-30. Depends on how much more dumb HE shows himself to be in coming months as well. But thanks for asking.
By Old Bike Dude June 24, 2010 at 8:20 am
I’m going with the American, so Sheheen gets my vote. In other news, Nimrata has propopsed a new symbol for the state’s liquor stores, a law prohibiting “calcutta” bets at fishing tournaments, and a uniform change for the SC National Guard in which the turbin becomes the required headwear for men. Camo scarves for women.
Maybe Jakie was right.
By Florida Watching June 24, 2010 at 9:14 am
“SC republicans are pure automatons who cant think/act on their own” – yep
By John Steinberger June 24, 2010 at 9:36 am
The solution for our stagnant economy is real simple – pass the South Carolina FairTax Act (H.3992/S-902). It empowers consumers to keep 7% more of their earnings and existing businesses to expand and hire. It would also attract entrepreneurs and wealthy retirees to re-locate to South Carolina.
Go to http://www.scstatehouse.gov and click on Locate Your Legislator (left column). Contact your State Representative and State Senator and ask the to Ax the Income Tax! We don’t need to wait on more tax studies – we need action!
By Catherine June 24, 2010 at 10:07 am
I least Sheehen has thrown some sort of idea out there for the dogs to chew on besides:
1) The Good Ole Boys Are Out To Get Me and They All Hate Me
2) Transparency — Haley screeches and squalls about it, yet shows none of it.
The above two topics will be the main planks of Haley’s ummmm….errr…. platform. The GOP has to be SO excited.
By Catherine June 24, 2010 at 10:09 am
I just gave Sheehen $100. I’ll give him $100 every time he has an idea that is valid and worth chewing the fat about.
If you waited around to donate to Haley on that same premise, you could keep all your money.
By Florida Watching June 24, 2010 at 10:52 am
Mitt has unloaded SIX PACs max donations to her already, he is buying SC for 2012.
By REPUBLICANSFORSHEHEEN June 24, 2010 at 11:07 am
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By cfd007 June 24, 2010 at 11:26 am
The first thing that needs to happen is to get rid of the Budget and Control Board.
By South Carolina Republican June 24, 2010 at 11:56 am
I am voting for Sheheen. Haley is inexperienced and narcissistic just like her idol Mark Sanford. She has distanced herself from him in her campaign but she’s as loyal as ever to him. He had no business being governor and he will go down in history as one of the most unproductive and incompetent governors in our state’s history. I voted for him twice and I’m ashamed. I fear that most Republican voters are too disconnected to feel this shame as I do. If Haley is elected governor we should be just as ashamed. The only saving grace is the governor’s limited power.
Haley’s political career is unremarkable and brief. She’s an attractive libertarian with no experience. That’s all Sanford needed to get elected. Also, the fact that Palin endorsed her makes me sick. Palin probably did more research in preparation for her interview with Katie Couric. I mean really, does Sarah Palin really give a shit about South Carolina? I don’t think there’s any question what she’s up to.
And, what is it with libertarian ideology and sexual promiscuity? If Haley really did sleep with Will and Larry, she must have a sexual addiction. Only a nymphomaniac will be unable to gardner the self control to resist the less than mediocre Will Folks and Larry Marchant. Will’s a entertaining writing and Larry is a competent lobbyist but, let’s face it, these guys are fugly in compared to Haley. She’s obviously willing to go to the bottom of the barrel to quench her thirst. What would happen if Haley actually had a couple of drinks with an attractive person? I’ll bet the farm she’s done it multiple times, and I’d double down that Sanford “crossed the line” with her. Those two narcissist nymphos obviously have no qualms about infidelity and they have spent way too much time together not to have dabbled in the company ink.
By Florida Watching June 24, 2010 at 12:49 pm
SCR – ……..and……we must not forget State House productivity. Passing one “hair” bill in six years is her idea of change and fiscal responsibility???
By Florida Watching June 24, 2010 at 12:52 pm
SCR – Would you mind re-posting that on the newest thread, to keep the real focus alive?