By FITSNews || Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney will campaign with Nikki Haley in South Carolina over the next two weeks as the most bizarre primary election in Palmetto political history refuses to go gently into that good night (wax on, Al, wax on).
Meanwhile, Gresham Barrett – Haley’s opponent in the GOP runoff – launched his first TV ad of the two-week campaign, a spot called “Shake Up Columbia.”
Here it is …
Aside from his obvious effort to co-opt Haley’s reform message, Barrett’s ad makes a few not-so-thinly-veiled references to the recent allegations against his opponent.
Specifically, it refers to Barrett as a “Christian family man who won’t embarrass us.”
Obviously that’s a debatable point, but Barrett is clearly seeking to sow doubts in the minds of primary voters who overwhelmingly supported Haley on Tuesday night.
Haley finished with 49 percent of the vote, compared to 22 percent for Barrett.
Still in play are the endorsements of S.C. Attorney General Henry McMaster and Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer, who garnered 17 and 13 percent of the GOP vote, respectively. Sources tell FITS that both McMaster and Bauer have been in communication with the Haley and Barrett campaigns although no deals have been cut … yet.
The winner of the GOP runoff will face Democrat Vincent Sheheen, who pummeled S.C. Superintendent of Education Jim Rex to capture his party’s nomination outright.
As for Romney, who finished a disappointing fourth in the SCGOP presidential primary two years ago, you have to wonder what Haley’s people are hoping to gain from his visit. After all, his appearance with Haley will probably raise several questions the presumed nominee
For example, does she agree with his health care plan? What about his original position on abortion?
Frankly, we think more than anything else the Romney visit is meant to send a message to Barrett’s consulting team, which managed Romney’s South Carolina bid.
The message?
“Drop out, dude.”
By CNSYD June 9, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Palin didn’t sink Haley. Neither did Folks or Marchant. But Romney just might do it.
By George June 9, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Barrett needs to wipe that stupid grin off his face if he wants us to take him seriously. That grin makes him look like he is trying to mock George Bush.
By maralars June 9, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Why oh why does Nikki always look like a deer in the headlights? Is she afraid of what evidence might come next from Sic?
I do not use the word “evidence” lightly. It’s fairly clear from the late night phone calls and volumes of texts sent back & forth between Sic & Nikki plus Sic & NIkki’s campaign staff, that there was something a brewin’ between the two. I’m not from S.C., but I’ve found this whole unsavory business to be fascinating.
I personally don’t believe that a person’s choices in his/her private life have much bearing on his/her business or political activities. But, I do think that lying about those choices is disingenuous and probably means that person cannot be trusted to lead a state. It’s beyond me how the good people of S.C. can ignore the fact that Nikki is clearly lying about something.
Maybe it’s not a full-fledged affair, but she lied about how well she knew Sic. Why? Why not state from the get-go that they worked together and had a lot of phone contact? Why did she wait until after the Verizon bills were released to come forth with that info? What is she hiding?
I will absolutely stay tuned. All those people posting that they will no longer come back to this blog are lying through their teeth. Clearly, we’re riveted. So bravo, Sic!
By OhNoNotAgain June 9, 2010 at 8:48 pm
The “drill instructor” would get in a lot of trouble for having a hat in such poor shape.
And I think he better not tell, because some of the quick looks he gives ol’ Gresham make think somebody is going to be asking sooner or later.
By Henry Mac June 9, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Dude, you don’t get to accuse anyone of infidelity without any shred of evidence. Considering your position as someone who is a laughing stock around the nation for your unproven allegations- your Barrett ruse falls way flat and frankly uncalled for.
Imagine this if you Will: You, Larry Marchant, Jake Knotts and Alvin Greene are the biggest embarrassments from SC, providing nightly laughs for people throughout the greatest country in the history of the world. Man that is heavy…
Note: I believe you, but I am fed up with you not addressing it head on and playing like it will just go away. Either produce evidence or address the lack of evidence and TRY to move on.
By newzjunkie June 9, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Nikki is looking like a real POLITICIAN! A lot of losers are coming out to supporter her! Go TEA PARTY!!!!
By Whippersnapper June 9, 2010 at 9:18 pm
In this poor quality video it definitely does appear that Barrett has a ‘possum hide hairpiece. Instead of throwing away his campaign money on such a low quality spot he’d have done better to invest in hair improvement and in a better actor than the one he has playing the drill instructor.
By Elwood June 9, 2010 at 9:37 pm
For anyone who thinks that the personal transgressions don’t count but lying about them does, how exactly does someone get put in the position of lying about them? By people prying into things that are none of their business–and don’t count. There is a circularity to this that is baffling and self-defeating. On the other hand, if you are going to run on “family values” among other things, you better have some.
By Billy Bob June 9, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Hey Mit, how is that universal health care going in Massachusetts? Can we get some of that if Hot Crotch Haley wins??
By Billy Bob June 9, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Can’t remember all those perverted GOP Presidential candidates, but is Romney the Morman? Is so, bet he’s slamming Ole Hot crotch!!
By Billy Bob June 9, 2010 at 10:01 pm
Message to all State, County and local government employees:
If you think you don’t have a budget now, wait til Hot Crotch Haley get in office.
While its posh to say cut government and spending, how far will you go? Al ready laid off teachers, who’ next, emergency services? This slut is for school choice and vouchers. Too bad that even with a voucher, you won’t be able to afford to send your kids to a private school. Public schools will go further down the tubes.
Most of you Jakie Knotts, Joe Wilson, Jim DeMint supporters don’t make enough to vote Republican but dumb enough to blindly support them!!
Sad!!
By Brian O'Connor June 9, 2010 at 10:07 pm
I don’t think its Haley’s people who are looking to gain from this visit, it’s Romney’s.
He has come hoping some of her her star power rubs off on him and to sure up his relationship with the woman who will play a pivotal role in determining who the next Republican Presidential nominee is.
Brian O’Connor
http://www.RedDogReport.com
@RedDogReport
By baker June 9, 2010 at 10:09 pm
My guess is that Mitt Romney is trying to curry favor with the Tea Party types in South Carolina. He’s trying to ride Nikki Haley’s coattails.
Who knows what’ll come out in the next couple weeks (or beyond), but it does seem a tad risky to me — if Will Folks’ claims are “proven,” after quite a bit of evidence has already been made public, how will that look for Romney?
By Transparency June 9, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Is the GOP a party of following the law? Did Haley get 50%+1? NO. Barrett, the honest conservative, please stay in the race, win or lose.
By David Weasley June 9, 2010 at 10:42 pm
This state is a gluten for punishment if they elect Nikki “Sanfraud” Haley as our next Gobnor!!
By James the Foot Soldier June 9, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Mitt also brings a well-oiled campaign aparatus (his folks polished Scott Brown’s message in MA) – intelligence to match Niki’s (something obviously missing in the Baur/McMaster/Barret/Sheheen camps) – and a handy database of supporterss to supplement Niki’s – who will be more than happy to share her list with Mitt in the upcoming year – looks like Mitt learned from McCain’s pre-primary South Carolina moves.
By john June 9, 2010 at 11:00 pm
this ad was running before the PRIMARY-
Side note-Will, you are a lame excuse for a journalist and a bit fat JOKE!!
By eggaday June 9, 2010 at 11:10 pm
she’s sanfraud in a skirt
By Philip Branton June 10, 2010 at 12:37 am
Someone needs to gently tap Nikki on the shoulder and ask her why she needs ANY more endorsements…!?!
MY BACKSIDE….!!! Mitt needs Nikki Haley’s endorsement…!!
Furthermore, she needs to publicly send a Howitzer shot over Mrs. Fowler’s desk and ask her if she believes in innocence until proven guilty for MR. Green….!@!!
What is next for Nikki…..George Michael singing “Father Figure” as all these men get photo OPS…!?!
BULL……!!! The next photos need to show Nikki SITTING while having citizens standing and questioning HER as she listens to them as a good SERVANT does….!!!!
Lets hope to the Lord Almighty that when Bobby Harrell and Glenn McConnell and Robert Ford all endorse Nikki that she tells them to kiss her “Carolina GOLD Gritz…!”…!!
** ATTENTION : Nikki Haley !! **
Nikki (put down that PHONE..!) you need to call Mitt Romney back Up and tell him to shove that endorsement….and that YOU endorse HIM….!!
Next….(that means right NOW…) type up a letter from you to the CEO of BOEING and tell him that you are tickled “pink” to endorse BOEING on the investment in Algae Bio-Diesel Jet Fuel that they have put into NON-Disclosure…!!! Tell him in no uncertain terms that YOU are going to make sure that the BOEING workers pensions are benefiting from all the alternative fuel CHOICES that the American consumers should have the right to choose from at the pump at ANY price….!!!!
Next….(that means right NOW…) type another letter to Lt. Col Rick Harger to endorse the new technology that will close ALL Landfills down in OUR entire STATE…..!!
Nikki…..keep MOVING….!!!
Are you going to WAIT for RON Paul to endorse YOU…!?!
Are you going to WAIT for Sigma Nu to endorse YOU…!?!
Are you going to WAIT for SKIRT Magazine to endorse your shoes?
Nikki…..call Robert Ford up and endorse HIS tie….!!!!
Nikki …if you are not leading the news …YOUR GOING TO GET STEAMROLLED…..!!!!!
Nikki…..LETS GO….!!
By She-han-who June 10, 2010 at 1:20 am
” After all, his appearance with Haley will probably raise several questions the presumed nominee
For example, does she agree with his health care plan? What about his original position on abortion? ”
That is stupid… why do people think that endorsements mean 100% agreement? She has stated her position on abortion and Obamacare… anyone asking the above questions are morons just trying to start crap up…
The Romney is meant to balance out the Palin…
By Antoine Dextrose June 10, 2010 at 1:26 am
This is a very interesting relationship: Ms. Grassroots cozying up with a Wall Street effete. Thanks for your help with the Teabaggers, Sarah, but it is time to get serious here. A woman’s gotta do what a woman’s gotta do. See you around the racetrack.
By Jules June 10, 2010 at 1:28 am
Romney’s Mormons believe that god’s representative on earth was a guy named Smith, who gave them all their material for the “Book of Mormon.”
I really have no problem with that stuff because most of these Mormons are incredibly thoughtful and well educated.
They are also the most multi-lingual population in the country; that is because their missionary work takes them to third-world countries where they really do good deeds.
Romney is probably more clean and honest than most of the dirtbags that have endorsed whats-his-name. We do not read about the sexual scandals of Romney, just all the other repubicans (and democrats).
Excellent and helpful endorsement.
By Boz Martin June 10, 2010 at 1:48 am
DOUBLE NEGATIVE CHINAGE in that ad. Not a pretty picture at all.
Barrett should have used the payoff money from Brad Dean of the Myrtle Beach Area Chamber of Commerce to GET A CHIN IMPLANT!
By Boz Martin June 10, 2010 at 1:50 am
/// intelligence to match Niki’s (something obviously missing in the Baur/McMaster/Barret/Sheheen camps) ///
You got that right, James. Nikki is smarter than all of them put together, with Will Murdock thrown in for good measure.
By Old Bike Dude June 10, 2010 at 6:55 am
Romney is just tryin’ to get laid.
By maralars June 10, 2010 at 7:16 am
By Elwood on June 9th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
For anyone who thinks that the personal transgressions don’t count but lying about them does, how exactly does someone get put in the position of lying about them? By people prying into things that are none of their business–and don’t count. There is a circularity to this that is baffling and self-defeating. On the other hand, if you are going to run on “family values” among other things, you better have some.
I heartily agree that there is often a baffling and self-defeating circularity to this! However, in this case, if Sic’s teasing hints come to pass, we’ll learn that Sic & Nikki were out and about in public. It wouldn’t take much “prying” if the situation were right in front of you. In Nikki’s case, she compounded the issue by allowing SP to describe her as “pro-family”, etc. If I were cheating on my husband (or not “cheating” if we privately have an open marriage) but put myself in a position where I could be seen or even photographed, I would be begging for the attention. Then I’d have to decide whether or not to lie about something that could easily be proved. Nikki, it appears, has chosen to look straight at the camera – and her supporters – and lie. She was dumb to get caught and dumb to lie about it. I personally don’t want a dumb person as my governor!
By Paris Sailin June 10, 2010 at 7:44 am
Round-The-Clock Nikki and Mittens! A match made in heaven. I understand they both have this thing about wearing special underwear for those truly transcendental, earth-shaking moments in their lives.
By Doris June 10, 2010 at 8:03 am
Now that is one handsome couple. They would make pretty babies!
By WorkingTommyC June 10, 2010 at 8:14 am
This is similar to an earlier video released on youtube.com by the Barrett camp:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76u7I3aSV_Q
In the earlier video:
GRESHAM BARRETT
U.S. Army (Ret.)
appears as a title beneath Barrett.
THIS IS A LIE! Barrett is NOT retired military. He served, yes, but only a few years. What should have appeared was something such as “Fmr. U.S. Army” or “U.S. Army 1984-1987″–or whatever the actual years were.
This attempt to portray himself as being retired is yet another “oopsy daisy” attempt–like others we’ve seen in the country–to “accidentally on purpose” influence voters by enhancing his military record. In fact, it may have provided the margin Barrett needed to get past McMaster and into the run-off.
Already reported on here:
http://garnetspy.com/2010/06/05/barrett-retired-military/
By Elwood June 10, 2010 at 8:31 am
Maralars: I suspect that at the end of the day you and I both agree that a politician’s best strategy is to keep his/her knickers cinched up, whether or not it’s anyone else’s business. Wonder why so many of them fail to do so. Wonder why so many of us find this shocking.
By Ben Tillman's Left Eye June 10, 2010 at 8:42 am
Is that the only effin dress she has?
By EasleyJack June 10, 2010 at 8:48 am
People, lying counts. If you can lie to your family and closest friends you can lie to anybody without loss of sleep. If you can set aside the feelings of your closest friend, your spouse, not once but twice you can certainly do that to the rest of us. As I said in a posting here the other day, something happened between Folks and Haley that shouldn’t have and her husband wouldn’t have liked. Something happened between her and Larry Marchent. These people, Folks and Marchent aren’t John Mark Karr. If it quacks like a duck… I was going to vote for her. But someting happens when people like Bill Clinton look into the camera and basically call you a dumb ass. Does it mean she would be a bad govenor? No. However, this isn’t going away. Journalists make their mark on this kind of horse squeeze. And, it will come out during her fight against Sheheen or worse, if she is elected. It is absolutely another embarressment that will erupt. It ain’y going away.
By Mike Traynor June 10, 2010 at 9:07 am
BEN TILLMAN’S EYE — God that is funny!
I think her only dress is blue!!!!
Shades of Monica Lewinsky??
By CSOL 2L June 10, 2010 at 9:21 am
I can see Vincent Sheheen from Mitt’s manties!
http://www.google.com/images?q=mormon%20underwear&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&oe=utf8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi
By Catherine June 10, 2010 at 9:29 am
Is Romney going to convert Haley to Morman now? Maybe he will take her as another wife?
I know, they will strap a terrified dog onto the top of her Escalade and go around campaigning with the thing shitting down the back window…
http://www.snopes.com/politics/romney/dog.asp
By TheRightMan June 10, 2010 at 9:41 am
Oh cry me a river, EasleyJack! Why do I get a feeling that you’re a Sheheen supporter. When you Democrats can start to hold your leaders to the same standard, let me know.
Would you have accepted those allegations if it had been a Democrat? Or you would be telling the detractors to get a life? Maybe you can go issue some advice to the liberals in Chicago to start giving Republicans a chance instead of always voting in the likes of Blagojevich and the other crooks.
Democrats only seem to like moralizing when the end results appear to benefit them politically. But when it affects one of theirs, then it’s all “la la la… nothing to see here, move along.”
1. Blumenthal LIES – no big deal, move along.
2. Obama sells a political position – everybody does it, move along.
3. Clinton abuses his position, takes advantage of an intern, and LIES about it – you Republicans are mean, witch hunt!
So no pontification from you, we’ve all wised up to your ways. And if your argument is that you are not a Democrat, still see the above.
By maralars June 10, 2010 at 10:46 am
TheRightMan – please quit tarring all Democrats with the same brush. Not all of us ignore or choose to tolerate the transgressions of Democratic politicians.
I’m interested in this particular case because it’s clear that Sic has something on Nikki that she’s not copping to, and I’m curious to see what else dribbles out on this site. If that makes me a vulture, so be it. I’d be responding the same way if it was a Democrat. I thought Clinton was an ass for 1) abusing his power and 2) not coming clean immediately and I followed every step of that circus.
What I’m curious about is why your anger is directed at what you consider to be hypocritical Democrats instead of the clearly prevaricating Nikki? Don’t you find it the least bit strange that she first barely acknowledged Sic in her life but then suddenly admitted to hours of late night calls?
By Whippersnapper June 10, 2010 at 10:55 am
CSOL 2L said above “on June 10th, 2010 at 9:21 am”:
“I can see Vincent Sheheen from Mitt’s manties!”
CSOL, you really should stay out of other men’s underwear. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, mind you.
By from amritsar with love June 10, 2010 at 11:15 am
first off, romney equals access to huge sums of money out of state, huge corporate donors, and a national network of that big money. haley supported him in 2008 as a small investment and it will pay off big time for her in the campaign coffers (as it already has with the 400k of ad buys and the at least 100k payoff to sarah palin to come to columbia). secondly, i continue to laugh at these idiots who think the editor of this site is waiting to drop some bomb on haley. if nothing else, the results of the primary prove that the whole haley “inappropraite realtionship” scandal was a 100% concocted sham to increase her visibility and make her a sympathetic candidate, and now its obvious that its other intention was to unify SC republican women voters solidly behind haley. bravo, will, as i said before, it was an obvious fake scandal and it worked like a total charm. seriously people, will has been pimping haley’s candidacy forever and now you people think he’ trying to sink it after his greatest success, both for his website and for his avowed chosen candidate. are you people really that stupid? that all being said, in the general election, hal;ey wont have the advantage of being insulated by the SC republican voters. she is going to have to face independents, people who will connect her directly with sanford and his embarrassments, and quite frankly racist voters from both parties that would rather even have a white christian arab (both lebanese christians and greeks have good solid reputations in SC politics- as successfully assimilated “outsiders” to SC) with deep roots in SC over that of a first generation indian women whose christian credentials are shaky at best. haley seems smart and has a great message on the surface- exactly the same as sanford 8 years ago- but the sanford backlash, her dodgy reputation (outside the eyes of SC republican women voters- the same ones who blindly worship jenny sanford) and her foreign background may sink her.
By Politics as Usual June 10, 2010 at 11:15 am
Maybe Mitt Romney is supporting Haley because the same political consultants that sunk his campaign in SC in 08 are running Barrett’s Campaign.
Remember Phoney Fred?
By Over My Dead Body June 10, 2010 at 11:18 am
If only we could get Nikki to admit this: the nasty ho.
By mypitts2 June 10, 2010 at 11:28 am
“Is she afraid of what evidence might come next from Sic?”
No, I don’t think she is. The moment is gone. Even evidence wouldn’t sink her at this point, b/c no one respects her enemies. She’ll slough off the affair rumors just like Clinton did.
By mypitts2 June 10, 2010 at 11:29 am
“I don’t think its Haley’s people who are looking to gain from this visit, it’s Romney’s.”
Correct. He is coming around when the risk is low, unlike Sarah Palin, who got out ahead of the rest of the national figures.
By George June 10, 2010 at 11:32 am
I don’t think Haley needs Palin or Romney’s support. Running against three losers and fending off suspicious lies, I suspect she would have got the votes anyway.
I just hope they paid you big bucks to “come forward” Folks; otherwise it might not have been worth the shame. As for Marchant, he could at least have put on a more manly act if he wanted to convince us that he actually did have “sexual relations and sex” (as he puts it…lol) with Haley.
By Ratfishtim June 10, 2010 at 11:44 am
So pro-choice Mitt Romney- who first crammed health care down the throats of hard working patriotic Americans as governor of Massachusetts, is coming to help “Nikki” Haley.
Where’s Sarah? Someone should tell her to get off the Bridge to Nowhere and come on down.
She can bring her 2 new “friends” with her, or at least tell “Nikki” how to get enhanced, too.
You betcha.
By EasleyJack June 10, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Right man, a Sheehen supporter. Shows what little you know…
By Checking in June 10, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Maybe Mitt is bringing the security tapes from the Salt Lake Marriott with him…..
By Florida Watching June 10, 2010 at 12:51 pm
This is wild stuff. Apparently Nikki has spent years lying with no consequences……..so she continues along with no hesitation. As a working lady, if she wants to sleep to the top, I’ll give her my address. Whatever works for her. But as a politician running for the top dog of the state? Is she crazy? And all this open book stuff? She is a lunatic. Palin, ex Mrs. Sanford, Mitt……..what are you doing????
Loving every minute of it.
By Balsak Tee Baghar June 10, 2010 at 1:07 pm
My friends and neighbors, there are more physical differences between the loser Gresham Barrett and the fabulous Nikki Haley of Lexington than just penis versus vagina!
Allow for me please to elaborate!
You will observe to see that Gresham Barrett has no chin!
His jawline is as empty as the plate of the poorest Calcutta beggar woman!
Now look at the beautiful face of the darling Nikki!
This prominent chin of hers could wear a turban!
Truly, there is enough room for Balsak to rest on her chin and meditate for several hours!
That’s no bed of nails for a Balsak!
Now, what is a sign of strong and forceful character?
The answer is a chin, my friends!
And who has the strongest character in this facial racial race?
Whose chin is a teabagger’s fantasy?
It’s not an SAT test!
Nikki’s chinny, chin, chin, of course!
And whose chin is smaller than a grain of tea floating in the teacup?
Whose chin will never strike the wall before the nose?
Loser Gresham Barret’s!
Based on chins alone, this race is finished!
Sarah Palin and Nikki Haley — two strong chins pointed to the future!
I can see India from my house!
By Whipkey June 10, 2010 at 1:11 pm
“Mitt also brings a well-oiled campaign aparatus (his folks polished Scott Brown’s message in MA)”. Oh really, why isn’t he President of the US then?
By Gary June 10, 2010 at 1:17 pm
The first Ad by Gresham Berrett should warn us that he wants to go for mud fest albeit in a more sophisticated language. The guy is claiming to be a Christian (meaning Nikki is Not) and would not embarrass SC ( meaning he is trying to remind people of the unsubstantiated slime that was thrown at her) .
Expect FOLKS and Larry Marchant going further than they have in their desperation.
Expect more dirt to be thrown ( what ever can stick) . Be guaranteed that the good old boys network will do every thing possible ( with Barret’s campaign being the mastermind ) to stick on to power and pelf. Expect the run off to get more nastier and slimy than primary.
But the result will be more revulsion on the part of voters and Nikki Haley winning by overwhelming majority,
By Gary June 10, 2010 at 1:24 pm
Guys we need to get off this religious garb that we support. Religion is very private. It is the ability of the person that should matter. Mormons ( while we may not agree with their doctrine) are good people. I have personally stayed in Utah and I think it is indeed a very family oriented atmosphere. These people don’t drink, and smoke. Young kids spend time in missionary work.
Romney today is perhaps the smartest Republican who has real life experience in business, politics and administration.
By SubZeroIQ June 10, 2010 at 1:36 pm
About Mr. Green, the Democrat candidate against Jim DeMint:
Absolutely not. He should not step down. It is the Democrat Party Chair who sould step down for failure to defend the Constitution.
Just so you all know, I am neither black nor white; and I am neither Democrat nor Republican. What I am is an Independent, highly educated, principled person committed to the Constitution of the United States, which I think is the only thing sustaining this country of lazy, foreigner-hating, unproductive people.
So hear me, a very devout Christian, strongly support the rednicks’ right to engage in cockfighting. The cocks, the chicken, the dogs are their property. Since the Commandments (and they are “Ten” only in Hollywood. In the real Bible, they are between Nine and Fourteen because there are several versions of them) animals are a person’s property. Remember the Commandment: “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house or ox anything belonging to thy neighbor.” Animals are animals and human beings are human beings. If a human being owns any kind of animals, (s)he may do with them as (s)he pleases so long as it does not harm another human being or deprive that human being of property.
So any law that criminalizes cock fighting or dog racing or anything one may do with one’s animal property is unconstitutional because the U.S. Consitution protects the right to property.
So, in addition to “innocent until proven guilty,” even if he did it, why is it a crime?
He showed someone some picture? If she did not want to see them, she did not have to look.
Pornography on the internet is constitutionally-protected so long as it does not depict or is shown to actual live children.
The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that pornography on the internet is protected because “you can’t force the adult to play in the children’s sandbox.”
If he had invited her to do with him to a porn movie, would he be a felon? So why are porn movies being shown in LICENSED movie houses if it a felony to go see them or invite someone to come along?
So what is the difference between porn movies in movie houses and porn pictures on the internet. I hear the latter are grainy and of poor quality.
People, get principled. Protect your Constitution even when it protects people whom you do not like. If you erode it bit by it, there will be no one left who understands the U.S. Constitution and puts it into action when you need it most: when you need it to protect YOU.
By c4 June 10, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Romney just lost my vote.
By countryboy June 10, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Good catch there WorkingTommyC – Barrett served four years in the Army, so he should not have used “U.S. Army retired”. Being a Citadel grad and serving four years is plus enough. Don’t know why candidates/politicians always have to embelish and already good bio.
By countryboy June 10, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Not a Romney fan. Not a Guiliani fan. Not a Palin fan (although she is a MILF). Damn sure not a Huckabee fan. I’m starting to be concerned that the GOP might not put forth a candidate who can beat Hussein Obama, even though Hussein Obama surely looks beatable at this point. Hopefully a strong candidate will come forth because god knows this country may not survive 8 years of Hussein Obama.
By Zach June 10, 2010 at 2:15 pm
I talked with one of Mitt’s people the other day. One of his people in his top 20. Mitt is very very very rarely if ever alone with anyone – male or female – without 2 witnesses. Generally one of the 2 witnesses is one of his sons. Interesting that politics has sunk to this level in America.
By Rugnez June 10, 2010 at 2:27 pm
“Barrett’s ad makes a few not-so-thinly-veiled references to the recent allegations against his opponent. Specifically, it refers to Barrett as a “Christian family man who won’t embarrass us.””
It was a reference to Sanford, who btw just embarassed himself, not us.
By WorkingTommyC June 10, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Thanks, countryboy!
That actually wasn’t my catch but pointed out by a friend who was nice enough to not castigate me for my missing that after I had actually viewed it and had even wondered about that point without fully and easily researching it.
I agree with you fully: he’s got a great record of military service already–why allow his handlers to do this? It seems to be be an epidemic of sorts lately, though. It must be a dirty trick that is pulling in votes.
By maralars June 10, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Oh for pete’s sake, countryboy! You refer to every other person in your post by last name only, but then refer to our President using his middle and last name. Please grow up and post something relevant to the discussion at hand.
By James the Foot Soldier June 10, 2010 at 2:41 pm
whipkey posed a terrific question: “then why isn’t he president of the united states?”
First, repuplicans could have put Jesus Christ and the pope on the ballot and would have lost in 2008 – that’s how sick and tired the electorate was of RINO “leadership”.
That said…..had McCain not run….er, “suspended”, er whatever…..the dumbest campaign in the history of America we might have been saved from the embrassment known as President Barak Hussein Obama….aka….President Bush-lite.
But I digress…..
McCain worked South Carolina for 8 loooong years making sure he had it in his back pocket coming out of New Hampshire…effectively ending the republican battle with only Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina (and their collective whopping 25 electoral college votes) having a say in the decision.
Once the GOP moves to a rotating regional primary system it will produce a much better product than McCain, w, Dole, and Daddy Bush…..
By The Truth June 10, 2010 at 2:58 pm
That commercial is about as much cheese as the smile on Gresham’s face!
By Florida Watching June 10, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Nikki was never in the military. Bonking other military folks is a court martial offense…….she would still be locked up. This family values fraud needs to resign before the runoff. I can’t believe she is trying to be a She-Sanford. She must have liked his affairs, so she banged out a few of her own………now she needs to hide…..unlike the loser still in office. These Repubs are certainly amusing. Not only are they sex addicts, but have to get that strange all the time. Indian strange…… don’t really see the attraction. Too much hair. Oh well, continue on…..
Loving every minute of it.
By George June 10, 2010 at 3:07 pm
The only GOP choice that can beat Obama is Jindal-Haley. I can see India from Washington DC!
By Florida Watching June 10, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Can you actually BELIEVE the GOP are supporting a tramp like Nikki. After all they have been through. Nothing like shooting yourself in the foot.
Oh well, continue on………
Loving every minute of it.
BTW, I can see India from Florida.
By Steve Spurrier June 10, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Barrett’s only chance is to come up with proof positive in the next two weeks that she is lying about the adultery, even though any adult with an IQ of over 100 knows she’s fibbing. But doesn’t Barrett have a few skeletons himself? If so, watch for a truce and an endorsement in the interest of party unity.
Folks wants her to win, so he’s not coming forward with anything else. Yes, she needs a new suit, but her ass looks so good in that blue skirt, its hard to resist. Right, Mitt? (Where is his left hand in that photo??)
By Florida Watching June 10, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Don’t think Mitt is gonna try to tap Nikki again. Been there. Done that. She has sat on more laps than a house cat. And you know she can’t quit. Her security detail is gonna go nuts trying to find her at all hours of the night. At least she only does it at night, I guess. Nobody talking about nooners yet. And to think………she might be another Luv Gov. Hey, she’s got the luv in before the election…….thinking ahead. Will needs to pop out one more juicy little detail, like a used rubber stuffed in an envelope for good keeping. Running the DNA could take a couple weeks, keeping the blue suit idea alive.
Oh well, continue on………
Loving every minute of it.
BTW, I can see India from Florida.
By countryboy June 10, 2010 at 3:52 pm
maralars – Normally I just use last names to be brief. Don’t like long winded posts. In the case you refer to it was a lack of respect for the person. And don’t give me that “respect for the office” BS, because few democrats ever said “President Bush” on blogs. Most either just used “Bush”, “Dubya” or some other term to show lack of respect and you damn well know it.
By Paris Sailin June 10, 2010 at 3:55 pm
TheRightMan
First of all, Democrats do hold their leaders to higher standards.
Blagojavich – Impeached by Democratic legislature, Fired
Spitzer – Forced to resign
Clinton was impeached – Some Democrats voted for impeachment and conviction. All Democrats I know were angry and felt betrayed by his lying adulterous conduct. He likely cost the Democrats the 2000 election. Why do you keep ignoring me when I say this?
On the other hand:
Hyde, Burton, Gingrich, and Livingstone not only kept their jobs, these Republocrites led the impeachment effort against Clinton. And don’t tell me it’s the lying about it not the sex. Adultery IS lying.
David Vitter – Still serving Senator. Reelected.
John Ensign – Still serving Senator
Larry Craig – Served out his term as Senator
Newt Gingrich – Serial adulterer (liar). Holder of the record for highest fine for Ethics violation of all time. Still a GOP leader and a viable candidate for presidential nomination in 2012.
Nikki Haley – Still a viable candidate that you voted for even though she’s a liar and adulterer.
Show me where in there you see that the GOP holds their candidates to a higher standard than the Democrats do?
By countryboy June 10, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Finally got around to watching the new Barrett ad. Jesus how dumb! Folks must have put that one together for him :)
By thesushi June 10, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Romney really has no leverage in 2012, does he? It’s like ants to the barbecue.
By Florida Watching June 10, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Nikki lies? Well……….perhaps it is just a poor memory. If she couldn’t remember how she flew to China, it’s a good bet she can’t remember getting boned late at night……..while working late…..on the phone. This is was too funny. Poor husband has to bare all this shame, unless he is tired of it and getting some strange himself.
Oh well, continue on………
Loving every minute of it.
BTW, I can see India from Florida.
By awg254 June 10, 2010 at 6:23 pm
An internal poll by Nikki just announced shows her way a head. i’m sure she’s taken a lot of internal polls.
By Hmmmm June 10, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Can you find the Christian in that picture?
By maralars June 10, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Countryboy – I’m not concerned if you have no respect for the President. That’s your problem. My issue is that you show that lack of respect via his middle name, which is a perfectly respectable name. Not that bad people haven’t shared the name, but I would bet that a few doozies have shared your name too. Are you one of those loonies who think that because his middle name is Hussein that he’s a terrorist too?
By Zuma Bound June 10, 2010 at 6:45 pm
To Paris Sailin, TheRightMan, Balsak Tee Bagher and Countryboy:
Paris Sailin – As always, well said. Back to you, TheRightMan.
Maralars – I think you may have TheRightMan on the ropes. Most wingnuts only know how to dish it out, but aren’t so good at responding to sensible, objective analysis. I’d love to see him just acknowledge that while many partisan Clinton apologists wanted to just give him a pass on the Lewinsky thing, the rest of us were saying, “What an assh*le.” Unfortunately, I don’t think that he will. Like most wingnuts, he is probably so heavily invested in demonizing liberalism that his wingnut blinders prevent him from seeing, or caring about the actual fact, that most liberals, other than rabid partisans, care about integrity, ethics and honesty, and hold liberal politicians and/or Democrats, like Bill Clinton, to the same standards that they hold conservative politicians. Besides its a convenient sleight of hand to use in avoiding having to address the issue of the ethical lapses of a conservative darling like Nikki Haley. So while I would hope that TheRightMan will dispassionately and fairly engage with you, I’m not holding my breath. I hope he does, but I don’t think that he will. I suspect that he would rather suckle at the teat of partisan demagoguery, avoid seeing that the mindless, partisan-based defense of Nikki Haley that we are seeing, that he is a part of, is exactly like the mindless, partisan-based defense by some in Democratic circles of Bill Clinton. Anyway, I hope he proves me wrong in this regard.
Balsak Tee Baghar – (1) They can smell Nikki Haley’s BS all the way over in Mumbai; (2) You’re not even close to being as entertaining as you apparently think you are; (3) I can see the rest of the asylum from your front door; (4) All right, enough dancing around it, you’re an idiot; (5) Palin is also an idiot, not to mention an uninformed dolt. At least Haley has a comfortable relationship with the English language and a passing knowledge of relevant issues. (For example, being originally from a different continent herself, she would, unlike Palin, probably know that Africa is a continent, not a country.)
To ALL of you ‘good ole boys’ – Palin is a MILF?!!! That just makes me want to puke. Only old, average to unattractive looking white guys that long ago lost the ability to score with truly hot women, IF they EVER had it (unlikely), say stuff like that. And while I’m at it, Nikki Haley’s okay looking, but enough of the mindless, old guy slobbering over her (see comments about Palin, insert here). Is she a cheating liar or not? Anyway stop superficially, if not sophomorically, fixating on physical attractiveness as a benchmark of ability in public service. If you have to do that, at least wait until someone actually worth losing your minds over is involved. Palin, Haley?!! *SHUDDDDDER*
Countryboy – For the record, I am a liberal who ALWAYS refers to George W. Bush as President Bush (also for the record, I voted for him in 2000 and 2004, before I “woke up”). It’s just a matter of respect for the office and the man, something I genuinely wish all the conservatives/rednecks/racists [maybe] out there, like Countryboy, would remember when they find/create/use some cutesy redneck/racist/disrespectful nickname for President Obama. By the way, Countryboy, I’m no happier about things when liberals disrespect Republicans/conservatives in a similar fashion, EVER.
By Florida Watching June 10, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Come on Will…….gives us something. Squeals…..does she breath heavy, arch her back…….talk dirty…….scratch things??? I mean, we can get the dirty details of a Luv Gov before she even makes it to the mansion. Boy is that place gonna be rocking. All night long. What are those voters thinking?? They are voting for a pro…….for gov.
Oh well, continue on………
Loving every minute of it.
BTW, I can see India from Florida.
By mr pitiful June 10, 2010 at 7:01 pm
What a hokey ad. Here’s a “military officer” walking in a field with a “guy in a blue blazer.” Has your bullshit meter gone off yet?
stupid.
By Michael Bay June 10, 2010 at 7:03 pm
We love Jenny Sanfraud!!!We love Jenny Sanfraud!!!We love Jenny Sanfraud!!!We love Jenny Sanfraud!!!We love Jenny Sanfraud!!! Woops I meant we Love Nikki S. Haley I am a woman who bla bla!!! I am a woman who bla bla!!!!
By thesushi June 10, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Mr. pitiful: fix the dang election. har.
By Max The Dog June 10, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Hot Dang! Will Rommey be campaigning in his secret mormon underware shorts to get the Porn Republican vote?
By countryboy June 10, 2010 at 7:50 pm
maralars – Do I think because Hussein Obama has a middle name shared by some terrorists, that he is a terrorist? Of course not silly. He just has names shared by some muslims, some of which are probably terrorists. And no, I am not saying he is a muslim either. I assume he is a loyal American with a socialist viewpoint toward business and government.
By Johnny Buggar June 10, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Any reasonable person, who understands the world beyond where one tank of gas will get them, must also understand the dire consequences of 21st century economy pretending the role of government should resemble that of the 18th Century. Given the realities of global economics, if we keep cutting taxes and regulation the next generation will most certainly learn what it was like to live in the 1800’s.
We are what we eat, and we will be governed by what we elect… but only until the consequesces of bad governence have eaten our lunch!
By Florida Watching June 10, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Wow. Good Point. I never thought about Political Porn. The GOP are sex perverts. They can not get enough of the freaky stuff. So they make sure they elect a Porn Queen who likes to swing, so all kinds of kinky stuff can rock at the mansion. The current Gov is a drag, they want Nikki. What a stripper name. Nikki will swing with anyone linked to a politcal anything. Come Will. Details please………we can make stuff up all day long, but we want the goods. Real stuff. Hurry.
Oh well, continue on………
Loving every minute of it.
BTW, I can see India from Florida.
By Mrs. Ethel Krabitz June 10, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Everyone, anyone, even remotely acquainted with what goes in Columbia hears of Nikki H.’s reputation within days of being here. For the LOVE OF GOD, people of South Carolina, wake up. If you actually want a Republican to be elected, don’t vote for N.H.
What happens in the dark will come out in the light.
Do we need more of this shit?
By TheRightMan June 10, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Nope, what I find strange is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSDAXGXGiEw
Why is this chief liar (Clinton) still being feted by the Democrat Party? He has been given a rock-star, demi-god status causing the likes of Paris Sailin to swoon when they hear him speak :). Not to mention tingles on the leg from some of the males :).
By Florida Watching June 10, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Ok Will
Pleeeeeeeeeease give us some scoop. You better have scoop. This all so fascinating but if you have scoop then all this extra politcal stuff will churm and develop, multiple and really get fum. But we must act quickly or the morons who voted for her in the first place will not get the message in time. Eh? Right? Ok? There are no good candidates out there. This is a joke, so let’s just make a big party of it.
By TheRightMan June 10, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Paris Sailin @ 3:55pm
Hmm… sigh… The issue of how Democrats handle scandals in their party vs Republicans was raised in another thread to which I gave an adequate response (check TheRightMan @ 1:10am). I presume you were asleep by then or conveniently ignored me :).
http://www.fitsnews.com/2010/06/08/haley-wins-big-barrett-finishes-distant-second/#comments
To save you some clicking and scrolling time, let me repost it here.
Hat Tip: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=17357 [Top 10 Democrat Sex Scandals]
I made the observation that Democrat scandal-ridden pols are re-elected by their ‘dumb’ constituents, who obviously are NOT conservatives. Republicans, even if they stay in office, most often do NOT try to run for re-election because for sure they would lose. Conservatives are less tolerant of leaders not leading by example. Liberals? They don’t give a ‘damn’ provided the pork keeps coming home.
By Mail June 10, 2010 at 8:59 pm
To Balsak and Florida Watching. Would you be kind to stop these annoying posts.
Go back to India, milk the cows, kiss the cows, f uck the cows…
By TaylorSC June 10, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Johnny Buggar, that is the problem with a lot of SC voters, they don’t see the world beyond where one tank of gas will get them. And they are proud of that.
By Zuma Bound June 10, 2010 at 9:17 pm
Countryboy – What a hypocrite!!! You decry liberals “disrespectfully calling George W. Bush, “Dubya”, but defend pulling President Obama middle name out of nowhere, and emphasizing it in referring to him.
You know well enough that conservatives call President Bush, “Dubya’, too. The difference is the “snarky”, disrespectful way that liberals spit the word out. THAT is what bugs you. Well, for the record, it bugs me, too. Just like it does when someone like you feels the need to use and unnaturally emphasize, President Obama’s middle name when referring to him, and do so in the very same “snarky” way, with disrespect and dislike clearly conveyed, that you cause you to complain when liberal’s disrespectfully spit out, “Dubya”. The name, “Hussein”, sounds Muslim. That’s why people that hate President Obama, as I suspect that you do, use and unnaturally emphasize the name when referring to him.
Pretty sophomoric, homeboy. Grow up.
By TheRightMan June 10, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Zuma Bound @ 6:45pm
Your comment is a ‘treasure trove’. I could spend all night dissecting every single line and issuing rebuttals. Let us start with this:
As much as I don’t object to being called a ‘wingnut’ or ‘right-wing nutjob’, I personally believe it’s been overused by liberals. Other comments that you are likely to elicit from a liberal when you have him or her on the ropes are: “racist”, “bigot”, “learn how to spell correctly”… need I go on?
I will also presume to believe that “sensible, objective analysis” – you should know that since I recall you referencing in one of the threads that youa are a Harvard-trained lawyer – can, in most cases, be arrived at when you have ALL the facts from both sides presenting arguments. Is the evidence presented by Will Folks sufficient enough for you to pronounce Haley guilty? Or you are so blinded by liberal hatred for all things Palin and now Haley?
Hmm… where to start? Let me make this as painless for you as I possibly can.
Your party is overriden with BLIND PARTISANS! As much as you would like to think that certain Democrats distanced themselves from Clinton because of some moral responsibilities, I beg to differ. Go read the news archive 1998-1999. They were only interested in saving their own backsides and worried about the impact of the scandal on their own sorry careers. That is why the most vocal defenders of Clinton were the Democrats from deep blue states who had nothing to fear from their own strongly partisan constituents (eg. Charlie Rangel).
Yes… there will be a few good nuts like Paris Sailin and Zuma Bound :) who have a moral obligation to speak out against sex scandals irrespective of the political party involved (/sarc)… but the majority are bad nuts. Not surprisingly, I have seen comments on the web from Paris Sailin dating from when the Sanford scandal and others broke. I am yet to see one critical of John Edwards and the other Democrats – although I stand corrected and would love if I could be proved wrong.
By TheRightMan June 10, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Another illustration of how the Republican Party handles the ‘real’ racists and bigots who, by the way, abound in the Democrat Party.
Hat Tip: http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12630848
By Zuma Bound June 10, 2010 at 10:18 pm
TheRightMan asked – “Why is this chief liar (Clinton) still being feted by the Democrat Party? He has been given a rock-star, demi-god status causing the likes of Paris Sailin to swoon when they hear him speak :). Not to mention tingles on the leg from some of the males :).”
Simple answer from this Democrat – I don’t know. I’m not happy about it. To my way of thinking, Clinton shouldn’t be given rock star status or continue to be feted, anymore than any other adulterer and/or liar should be. What does that do to the subtext of your question, you know, the one that presupposes that Democrats think it’s okay to embrace Bill Clinton despite his sexual pecadillos, then call Nikki Haley on the carpet for hers? Well, I’m willing to tell you, but first you have to come down off of your high horse, all right?
It. . .means. . .that. . .[am I going slowly enough for you]. . .it’s “BS”. Stop hiding behind it, man up and be willing to say that Nikki Haley should be called on the carpet for her lies to the people of South Carolina, just as Bill Clinton should have been for the lies to the American people about “not having sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky” by everyone possessing even a modicum of integrity and respect for the truth.
One of the ironies of your complaint of a double standard here is that I’m pretty confident that, under circumstances remarkably similar to Nikki Haley’s, you were probably one of the rightwing zealots calling for Clinton’s hide, weren’t you? You would have been right, then. We’re right now. Stop being a hypocrite and admit it.
And, by the way, Chris Matthews, who doesn’t happen to speak for me, is the only one who get “tingles on the leg”, so please wrap your brain around the fact that there is. . .nothing. . .remotely “cute”, much less remotely “point-winning” about using the “tingles on the leg” reference whenever a conservative/Republican like you wants to make fun of Democrats. It just sounds as stupid as it did when Matthews lost control of his mind for a second and said it.
By Zuma Bound June 10, 2010 at 10:35 pm
TheRightMan said – “Another illustration of how the Republican Party handles the ‘real’ racists and bigots who, by the way, abound in the Democrat Party.”
Wow, I’m impressed [NOT]. Going after someone who insulted the latest Republican/conservative “sacred cow” flavor of the moment for racist comments. Way to step up and fight racism, guys. (*laughing*). Stand up in the same way for a black Democrat, then it will actually mean something.
You’re a joke, homeboy. And so was the ridiculous point that you were trying to make about Republicans standing up against racism. You guys are still flying the Confederate flag down at the capital, right? Still depicting the President as a witch doctor at conservative rallies and events, right? Let me see the Republican party call for taking the flag down. Let me see them call for passing a resolution in the South Carolina state legislature decrying racist portrayals of an African-American President as a witch doctor. Then they’ll actually impress me with having taken a stand against racism. In the meantime, stop patting yourself on the back and acting as a cheerleader for a party that just doesn’t deserve the “cheers”.
By TheRightMan June 10, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Zuma Bound @ 10:18pm
Okay, let’s recap.
Question (TheRightMan): Why is this chief liar (Clinton) still being feted by the Democrat Party? He has been given a rock-star, demi-god status causing the likes of Paris Sailin to swoon when they hear him speak :). Not to mention tingles on the leg from some of the males :).
At least, I will give you A+ for honesty! But note, your answer references only how you personally feel about Clinton… and Chris Matthews (as an added bonus). It doesn’t address my premise that the majority or, if I were to be charitable, vocal minority (?) that has hijacked your party (roll eyes) only care about power and not moral hijinks. That is fine with me but I do take exception when you guys populate blogs with appeals to conservatives to force out their pols when you evidently do not hold your guys to the same standard.
Now back to Nikki. You said:
Ehmmm… clears throat… Currently (June 10, 2010), there is no SOLID evidence that has been provided by Will Folks or Marchant (tee hee hee) that proves that Nikki Haley, the next governor of South Carolina, is lying. If such evidence is produced, I will then take a decision (as will other conservatives) whether I should also fete Nikki as a rock star and continue to support her over the alternative or throw her overboard.
Till then, I definitely have to give her the doubt… innocent until proven guilty! Isn’t that Law 101?
By Zuma Bound June 11, 2010 at 12:06 am
“. . .the woman who will play a pivotal role in determining who the next Republican Presidential nominee is”.
In your [provincial] dreams, Brian. . .*laughing*. . .
Jeez, TRY to remember that you’re in South Carolina, for God’s sake, Bri Bri. I’m curious, which end are you barking out of exactly, Red Dawwwwg?. . .Because your deluded “analysis” not only stinks, it is as intellectually dissonant as the sound coming out of a whoopie cushion.
“. . .pivotal role in determining who the next Republican Presidential nominee is.” (*laughing still*) That’s rich.
By Yea it is really me. June 11, 2010 at 12:23 am
Nimrata Randhawa!!!!!!!!!
Do what!!!!!!!! This is Nikki Haley’s real name and it is ridiculous that citizens in South Carolina actually want to put her in the Governor’s office. With each passing day I become more and more sick with the Politics of South Carolina. This sickness isn’t about party anymore, it is simply about the persons we elect into office. I really hope people will wake up and see and understand why it is important to vote for the right person to lead. Vincent Sheheen is the best candidate for the job. NEW JOBS, NEW IDEAS, FRESH FACE, STRONG CHARACTER, GREAT LEADERSHIP. We do not need to forget, where there is smoke, there is fire… Affairs, and more affairs… People wake up, and please vote for Vincent Sheheen. He isn’t a voice of empty promise, he is a promise with a voice. GOP put party aside, and put people and South Carolina FIRST!!!!! A year from now, you will be glad you did.
By SICK OF LIES!!!! June 11, 2010 at 12:29 am
Someone posted a list of 10 reasons why Bill Connor should be elected and 10 reasons why Ken Ard should not to Ard’s Facebook wall. And, Connor condoned the whole thing. He thanked the man for doing what he did. That is about as sleazy as it gets. And then I read that Palin is now going to endorse a Haley/Connor ticket? WHAT?!? The only thing they have in common is that they have cheated on their spouses and lied about it. Will has put the truth out, and I know there is proof of Connor’s affair in law school. Even if the details and proof came out about Connor, he would have an angle for it to help his campaign. These people will stop at nothing to be elected. Why are these liars getting away with this and then they get endorsed by Palin?!?! People, if they will lie to their spouses and lie when asked about their affairs, they are not fit to serve this state!
By Gary June 11, 2010 at 12:34 am
FLORIDA WATCHING::
You have been calling Nikki Haley a tramp, a whore, sitting on lap etc etc .
is this the way you also address your wife, daughter, mother and sister?? Trailer trash like you is naturally going to fart from his mouth with these kind of adjectives. It is a shame that like a spurned women, Slick Willie is using this web site to spread poison and vitiate atmosphere in the state.
Will you did ( It was a big lie) what you though will benefit you and it is now proved beyond doubt you simply made up the story.
Please maintain some dignity here in the kind of comments you are posting, otherwise it will be an easy conclusion that you are personally behind all the low life mud slinging against NH that is going on your site.
By Zuma Bound June 11, 2010 at 1:07 am
TheRightMan wrote – “At least, I will give you A+ for honesty! But note, your answer references only how you personally feel about Clinton… and Chris Matthews (as an added bonus). It doesn’t address my premise that the majority or, if I were to be charitable, vocal minority (?) that has hijacked your party (roll eyes) only care about power and not moral hijinks.”
Okay, so what’s your point. You generalized about Democrats having a double standard. I then told you that you shouldn’t generalize in that way and explained why, using me as Exhibit “A”. I also contemporaneously suggested that your generalization allowed you for that moment to skirt around and/or ignore the notion that, if Nikki Haley is proven to have lied to the electorate in the manner alleged, if you’re going to talk about the hypocrisy of Democrats defending Clinton and chastising Haley for the same kind of dishonest and unethical behavior, you’re essentially demonstrating the very same kind of hypocrisy if you’re willing to bash Clinton, rightfully, but give Haley a pass.
I suppose that more evidence is needed to convince all the naysayers amongst the conservative crowd regarding whether or not Haley has lied. Will Folks says that it is coming. It would be cool if all of the Republicans/conservatives/tea partiers who have such an apparent emotional investment in Haley’s electoral success would just wait and see if it is, rather than continue to lash out at Folks, viciously denigrating him in the most demeaning and juvenile ways in a blatantly obvious effort to demonize and/or neutralize his impact on Haley’s campaign. But I suppose that that is wishful thinking, huh? Kneejerk partisans will be mindless, kneejerk partisans. You can’t control them, right, anymore than I can control the mindless, kneejerk partisans in the Democratic party who want to do things like lionize Clinton and demonize Haley. Who cares how vocal they are or how blinded by partisanship they are. They don’t speak for all Democrats. They certainly don’t speak for me. In essence, then, your premise is irrelevant.
Here’s the thing, it would be great if you and I could agree that a liar is a liar, whether they are a Democrat or a Republican, and that they should be ostracized, or at the very least marginalized, but certainly not lionized. You seem like a decent, fairminded guy. If I can say that someone like Clinton should not be lionized, then you should be able to say that, IF Haley lied, neither should she.
My instincts tell me that what Folks has had to say, and how he has said it, telegraphs a fundamental confidence that he, in fact, has the goods on Haley, that he can prove that Haley cheated on her husband, and has been lying to the electorate about it. Beyond that, the fact that Haley initially claimed to barely know who Folks was, and then, when confronted with Folks’ phone records that clearly demonstrated that she had had a number of lengthy phone conversations with him late at night and lasting into the wee hours of the morning, explained them by saying, Ohhhh, THAT Will Folks, and saying that they were simply strategizing regarding her efforts to get on a certain legislative committee, to the objective mind, has undercut the credibility of Haley’s protestations. Additionally, Haley’s unwillingness to release her own phone records and e-mails doesn’t help, given the lipservice that she has previously paid to the notion of transparency in government. Folks’ last statement unambiguously called her a liar, and gave absolutely no indication of an intention on his part to stand down. I suspect that whatever e-mails, affidavits, photographs, and other evidence that he has will prove to be devastating to Haley, and I believe that he has waited this long to release everything to give Haley a chance to gracefully explain things, maybe even to talk to be honest with her husband about them.
That said, let’s wait and see what happens, huh? In the meantime, can you at least concede that if it is proven that Haley lied, she deserves the same kind of condemnation from you, from anyone with even a modicum of integrity, that Clinton received? I certainly hope that you can, and in the process of doing so, take a step in restoring my faith in the idea that mindless partisanship doesn’t have to be the defining dynamic of American political life.
By Zuma Bound June 11, 2010 at 1:18 am
TheRightMan – I called you a “joke” in a post up above. That was a callous and uncalled for thing to do. You have yet to respond to it, so I’m hoping that you overlooked it. In any event, please accept my apologies for getting too caught up in the moment. I still think that your point on racism was a “joke”, but the ad hominem attack just wasn’t cool. Anyway, it won’t happen again.
By Mail June 11, 2010 at 2:29 am
To Florida Watching: Your posts are great, please just don’t put “I can see…” at the end. I will really apprecite it. This is annoying.
To Gary: NH “IS” a whore. If you don’t like this word, you are welcomne to suggest some other word with the same meaning. How about “Slut”
By Boz Martin June 11, 2010 at 8:06 am
FOR MORE ON WHAT GRESHAM “CHINLESS WONDER” BARRETT HAS BEEN UP TO:
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… new life was breathed into a major S.C. campaign finance scandal when it was revealed Friday that the president of the Myrtle Beach Area Chamber of Commerce handed U.S. Congressman (and current Republican gubernatorial nominee) Gresham Barrett an envelope full of checks from a shady network of “shell” corporations. Barrett received $84,000 worth of contributions in an envelope handed to him by Chamber president Brad Dean – part of more than $320,000 doled out to public officials as alleged payback for their support of a tax hike that routed millions of dollars into the Chamber’s coffers.
The chairman of the Chamber’s board, Brant Branham, also acknowledged doling out contributions to local elected officials.
Previously, the Chamber had repeatedly denied having any connection to the suspicious funds – which were administered by a former Chamber board member and which many believe originated from the revenue created by the tax increase.
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– http://www.fitsnews.com/2010/05/21/coastal-sc-campiagn-finance-scandal-begins-to-unravel/
By Old Bike Dude June 11, 2010 at 8:14 am
So let’s get this right. I can’t vote under the name Old Bike Dude but should I wish to conceal my heritage in order to be a politician in South Carolina I can use any name I want for the ballot. Methinks a Nimrata candidate couldn’t get elected as dogcatcher in Lexington county. Sorta like a Piyush in La.
By Florida Watching June 11, 2010 at 9:00 am
Mail: Yes indeed, I will modify the ending.
Gary: The problem is …….. SC has a sitting gov who is a complete disgrace because of lying and affairs. Why replace that jerk with a rather politically inexperienced female hose-bag who would rather have her beaver plowed by pals, than her own husband. If she wants to go down on a football team ……. I dont care. If she wants to pop the cork with the entire marching band……whatever. Just don’t do the BOLD FACE LIE thing on TV. This is not college. Please…….Jenny Sanford…..you have made a mistake, I can’t believe you are supporting a mistress>>>. Just because the candidate is a female, doesn’t make her worthy.
See ya Mail
Piss off Gary
By Florida Watching June 11, 2010 at 9:10 am
BTW GARY
The ladies in my life don’t park outside the house of a blogger and spank his monkey at all hours of the night. She did the nasty. I am just rephrasing the crime for all the dimlights out there who voted for her in the primary. Some folks need basic facts dumbed down to match their wits. Cheating on her husbands is wrong, lying about it to the world…….you tell me.
By Boz Martin June 11, 2010 at 9:47 am
I’m betting that old Gresham wishes he still had Brecke Latham around to help him get through the awful mess he’s gotten himself into down here on the Grand Strand. And about that … I apologize for not giving a little more context and background on the whole deal.
Please pay special attention to the timeline links. They’re very important in understand the whole ChamberGate scheme. As to what ol’ NO-CHIN might have done to facilitate it, other than sharing Walt Whetsel’s scummy little stable of race-baiting slime like Mike Green with the big money behind Dean, Rhodes, Gray, Leath, etc. … well, I’ll leave that up to y’all … coz I just a goofy old dude tapping away on a laptop, and y’all are all big movers and shakers and such … (contined)
By Boz Martin June 11, 2010 at 9:48 am
HERE YA GO …
MORE BACKGROUND ON GRESHAM BARRETT’S INVOLVEMENT IN ***CHAMBERGATE*** :
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Coastal Campaign Finance Scam: Who’s Investigating?
By FITSNews ||
An alleged “pay to play” scandal involving numerous Grand Strand politicians is on the verge of being swept completely under the rug, sources close to the various inquiries tell FITS.
In fact, the only agency still actively investigating the scandal is the S.C. State Ethics Commission, which lacks the authority to file criminal charges.
For those of you unfamiliar with this “alleged” scam, it all started last May when the Horry County legislative delegation pushed through a one cent sales tax hike on local residents – the proceeds of which are being handed over directly to the Myrtle Beach Area Chamber of Commerce.
Yes, you read that right … a bunch of “Republican” lawmakers actually sponsored a tax increase that explicitly funnels money into the bank account of non-governmental entity.
Why did they do that?
Well, according to numerous taxpayer advocates on the coast (and frankly, anyone who isn’t blind), they were paid handsomely to do so.
Specifically, these coastal lawmakers – along with U.S. Rep. Gresham Barrett and several city council members – collectively received nearly $350,000 in campaign contributions from a shadowy network of “corporations.” Critics insist that these “corporations” were nothing more than cover for a slush fund administered by former Chamber Chairman, local attorney Shep Guyton.
It has also been alleged that the Chamber provided the funding for the donations, drawing against the estimated $18 million in tax revenue the scam is expected to generate.
Indeed, the Chamber had already begun to spend the revenue from this tax hike before it had even become law (guess that’s what happens when you know your votes are bought and paid for).
So … who are the lawmakers involved in this shadiness?
S.C. Reps. Thad Viers, Nelson Hardwick, George Hearn and Alan Clemmons.
Oh, and Sen. Ray Cleary.
Checks were sent to Rep. Tracy Edge, but he declined them.
Among the most damaging allegations against each of these lawmakers is that nearly all of the approximately $350,000 was drawn as cashiers checks from the same bank – on the same day. Sources tell FITS the checks were even delivered to each politician in the same envelope.
Obviously, using multiple corporations to make donations to political candidates isn’t against the law. However, the Chamber could be in hot water if it were ultimately revealed as the funding source for the donations. As it stands now, though, the Chamber is sticking to its original story – namely that its leaders simply called “like-minded businesses” and asked them to support the tax hike.
Mmmm-hmmm.
To look at a timeline of the reported events related to this scandal, check out the documents below, which were provided exclusively to FITS …
WEB EXTRAS
Scandal Timeline A — http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MB-Timeline-Page-A.pdf
Scandal Timeline B — http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MB-timeline-page-ba.pdf — http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/MB-Timeline-Page-C.pdf
Scandal Timeline C
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By Paris Sailin June 11, 2010 at 10:01 am
TheRightMan
Can I simplify this a little bit after conceding that I don’t support the Democratic sleazy politicians that you named in any way?
How do YOU feel about Senator Vitter, Senator Ensign, and other sitting Republican sleazy, lying adulterers. I’m getting confused (hard to believe, eh? LOL). These are current leaders of the GOP – sitting US Senators. Ensign was touted as an up-and-coming contender for the GOP presidential nomination up until his adultery and hush-money payoffs came to light.
Again, Clinton is gone. I didn’t support his behavior then, and he’s lost my, and most other Democrats, respect. I highly doubt if he’d be re-elected or even nominated today if he were eligible, knowing now what we didn’t know then.
But you, TheRightMan, what do you think about the lying adulterers in GOP Senate leadership positions right now?
Did you possibly vote for a lying adulterer in last Tuesday’s primary?
You’re a smart guy. You know what those phone records show. You know what Haley’s lying about them shows. Are you parsing the evidence to the “what is, is” point?
You know the answer to those questions. Why don’t you post some straight answers to these questions?
By Florida Watching June 11, 2010 at 10:22 am
Yo Boz
Nice dirt on Barrett and ChamberGate.
So now…….the runoff:
Nikki – 24 Hour Happy Endings for Select Gentlemen.
Gresham – Corruption skills taught at home, from Washington experience. Hey, Greshy, how can you let a litte ol’ state rep clobber your US rep butt? Especially her??? Dude…. you can’t fight with a pig unless you get in the mud. Hurry up. This whole gov deal is a joke. I just want complete exposure and disclosure.
By Paris Sailin June 11, 2010 at 10:25 am
TheRightMan
And for the record, since you asked. I never liked John Edwards. Even when he was on the ticket with Kerry I could see that he was a smarmy, disingenuous lia . . . uh . . . I mean . . . lawyer type.
That his smarmy, disingenuousness “blowed up real good” like Nikki’s tale that she “barely knew the man,” and Bill’s “I did not have sex with that woman,” was no surprise to this progressive Democrat. Nosireebob!
So, how do you feel about Senators Vitter and Ensign? Did you possibly just vote for someone you know to be a lying adulterer like John Edwards?
By Gary June 11, 2010 at 11:52 am
FLORIDA WATCHING::
Again this is he said she said BS…Do you believe this guy Willi telling all of us almost a month ago that the story was going to break and blah blah and he wants to be ahead of the story and that he has to say it publicly because of his wife…blah blah. Then this guy ran to his attorney.
Tell me WHY you need to hide behind the coat tails of attorneys to tell the truth?? How much time it takes to tell the truth?? The thing is the whole thing is an old story now. Voters have spoken , and she is in all probability will be the next governor. What is the use of name calling now?? Regarding ‘ “your Women” whom you consider very pious, If some one said bad about them you are not going to believe it-right? ( and as proud person you should now) But people may still be saying bad things about you women. My point is that people have mouths they will use it in spite of the fact your women (and I believe you) must be good family oriented persons of good character.
Before you keep throwing all kinds of nasty stuff on others, remember Lord God can be very nasty with slanderers and has his own way and own time to punish.
I wish you all the best and may God bless you.
By Florida Watching June 11, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Hey Will
This Gary guy really thinks you made the whole thing up. Personally, with all those late night phone calls………..hahahahahahahahahaha.
Hey Gary
It’s not slander if it is the truth. I already have enough proof. Besides, God and Santa saw it all. Whew, what a visual. You are a Nikki Supporter. I am a Supporter of Character. Nikki has none. If her phantom China trip and all these affairs don’t get her, her character will fail her in some other way. It’s clear. Why are you defending her?
By kfkfsahf June 11, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Why can’t NIKKI HALEY TAKE A POLYGRAPH TEST. Andre Bauer did!!!!!!!!!!!! People we should seek her to take a test!!!!!