By Will Folks || I’ve had numerous Republicans contact me over the last few days seeking a glimpse into my thinking as the drama surrounding S.C. Rep. Nikki Haley’s candidacy continues to unfold.
“You need to play all your cards on Nikki,” they tell me. “We have to choose our nominee.”
Honestly? That’s not my problem. I’ve made it perfectly clear on numerous occasions that I think Rep. Haley’s three rivals in the race for the Republican gubernatorial nomination are as worthless as tits on a bull, which makes them not unlike the two leading Democratic candidates – Vincent Sheheen and Jim Rex.
“At a time when our state desperately needs to keep a fiscal conservative reformer in the Governor’s Office, the Republican Party has put up three status quo, social conservative panderers,” I wrote over a year ago.
I still believe that to be the case.
Also, I have never believed that a candidate’s marital fidelity (or lack thereof) should be considered when making a determination about their ability to govern, unless of course they lied about it - like S.C. Gov. Mark Sanford did last year and like Rep. Haley is continuing to do as it relates to my recent acknowledgment.
Until two weeks ago, my website planned on endorsing Rep. Haley- whose political career I have aggressively championed ever since this website was created three-and-a-half years ago. In fact, here’s one of the paragraphs I wrote last month in preparing this endorsement, which was supposed to drop on May 31:
We also like Nikki because she has proven her willingness to take a bullet for what she believes. In pushing for greater government transparency, she and her colleague Nathan Ballentine were rudely stripped of their committee assignments because they refused to back down from powerful Speaker Bobby Harrell, who like most legislative leaders wants taxpayers to remain in the dark when it comes to how their money is being spent.
That setback only made her stronger, though.
Now, Nikki is continuing her fight for greater transparency, pushing a bill that would force “on-the-record” votes for all major legislation as well as individual sections of the state budget. This scrutiny would save taxpayers’ millions of dollars, and go a long way toward restoring the public’s faith in government.
Indeed, government transparency has been the political (and public relations) fuel for “Haley’s Comet,” although South Carolinians have learned over the last two weeks that Rep. Haley obviously doesn’t want this same standard applied to her.
In fact, when reporters investigating the affair claims requested access to Rep. Haley’s taxpayer-funded email account (and more importantly the computer hard drives associated with that account), she refused to release this information - citing a legislative exemption that allows her to evade our state’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) laws and keep this public information hidden from public view.
So much for sunshine, right?
That’s not the only example of disingenuous behavior on Rep. Haley’s part, though. In addition to her ongoing denials, Rep. Haley flat-out lied when she claimed I had not given her a ”heads-up” regarding my decision to come forward. The record will show I informed her directly (via text message) two days in advance of publishing my admission, which is obviously in addition to the dozens of additional text messages I released outlining the extensive coordination I had with her campaign in the weeks leading up to the story breaking.
These messages (which also included exchanges I had with a reporter who was chasing the story and a politicial operative who was pushing it) not only document my efforts to work with her campaign to minimize the damage to her candidacy, more importantly they prove what I said from the beginning of all this – that I came forward only when I believed that a media report regarding our affair was imminent.
Then there was this telling note sent to me by Haley campaign manager Tim Pearson:
I’m telling you man, we keep this under wraps and (Nikki) is going to win.
They may “win” anyway … at least the GOP nomination.
What these text messages did not show, however, was the two weeks of pure hell that my wife and I went through prior to deciding that this was an issue that needed to be addressed preemptively on my website. Literally every day during those two weeks there was a new report of some different piece of evidence allegedly being leaked to this reporter or that reporter, and based on what I knew to be true (and based on one specific piece of evidence that I had seen with my own eyes a year earlier) I could not be sure that a story exposing the relationship wasn’t going to run.
We were under seige, and we did what we felt we had to do to protect our two-year marriage – a union that never would have transpired had Rep. Haley had her way, incidentally.
Anyway, in addition to these text messages, I have also released phone records showing hundreds of calls between myself and Rep. Haley during the time frame I laid out - many of them occurring after midnight and lasting for several hours. In fact, as the days go by these records have proven increasingly difficult for Rep. Haley to explain.
After initially attempting to minimize my role as one of her advisors, Rep. Haley is now assigning a level of involvement I never had – claiming that we spent these late hours on the phone strategizing over her campaign to become chair of the powerful House Labor, Commerce and Industry (LCI) committee.
That statement is laughable.
First of all, the LCI race – a contest from which Rep. Haley eventually withdrew - isn’t a public election, it’s a vote determined by a handful of state lawmakers. That means there’s no public relations component to it whatsoever. Accordingly, there was absolutely no need to strategize so incessantly about it with a PR advisor - particularly not so far ahead of time and particularly not with someone Rep. Haley initially downplayed as an employee who merely ”did some writing” for her, a person she claimed (prior to the release of the phone records, anyway) not to have known particularly well.
In fact, over the duration of our professional relationship, I attended precisely one meeting with Rep. Haley regarding her LCI bid - a gathering that took place at lobbyist Larry Marchant’s office many months after the lengthy late night phone calls between Rep. Haley and myself. It was Mr. Marchant who ran Rep. Haley’s LCI race, not me, and the notion that she and I would spend countless hours on the phone strategizing about it over a year before it took place is ridiculous.
But Rep. Haley has done more than just deny, lie and evade during this process. In the weeks following my purposefully broad admission of an ”inappropriate physical relationship” with her (something she could have addressed in any number of innocuous ways), Rep. Haley’s supporters have waged a vicious smear campaign against me. In addition to their full-frontal assault on my credibility and the credibility of my website, I have been bombarded with all manner of threats and attempts on their part to portray me as part of the “good ol’ boy” network that is seeking to bring Rep. Haley down.
This contention is also patently ridiculuous. FITSNews is not only the leading voice of the reform movement in South Carolina, it is (and will continue to be) the most aggressive news outlet in the state when it comes to exposing the defenders of this state’s failed status quo. Our record of advocacy on both of these fronts is exhaustive and indisputable.
Ironically, though, the state’s mainstream media – which has been providing comfort (and cover) to the good ol’ boy establishment for decades - has decided to go along for the ride, portraying Rep. Haley as the victim in this drama while they secretly sharpen their knives in anticipation of her being the Republican nominee in the general election.
They want to see Vincent Sheheen elected – and this is just a means to that end for them.
Of course to explain this media incongruence, supporters of Rep. Haley – and even Rep. Haley herself on one occasion – have hinted that I must have been paid to “betray” her. In fact, one website with close ties to Haley and Sanford’s top strategist, Jon Lerner, claimed at one point to know for a fact that someone paid me to attack Rep. Haley, however this website was later forced to back down from that claim.
Another popular theory is that I have been deliberately “dripping” information in an effort to cause maximum damage to Rep. Haley’s campaign - while others believe that I am holding certain cards back because I secretly want her to win the nomination. Neither theory is true. I am releasing all the information I can as soon as it is authenticated and approved for disemmination by my attorneys – which is one reason why the Haley campaign has been unable to dispute any of the documentation we have released thusfar.
Will so-called “smoking guns” be released prior to primary day? Prior to the runoff? Prior to the general election?
That’s honestly not up to me. It’s up to what my team is able to positively authenticate in anticipation of facing a blizzard of denials (although curiously no libel suits or demands for retraction) from Rep. Haley’s campaign.
Like I said, we will continue to release what we can, when we can – fully condident that the truth regarding this situation will eventually come out.
Speaking of which, in addition to these records, my team is preparing affidavits from literally dozens of witnesses – including several who observed Rep. Haley and I leaving nightclubs together late at night as well as several who will testify to seeing Rep. Haley’s car parked outside of my downtown Columbia, S.C. town house on mulitple occasions at all hours of the night during the time frame in question. I’ve been told that several of these witnesses have taken the step of contacting members of the mainstream media regarding what they saw, although I obviously can’t control when (or how) that side of the story will come out.
Regarding these late night visits to my town house, at this point it bears repeating that I have purposely refrained from discussing the physical details of my relationship with Rep. Haley. Believe it or not, I am a Southern gentleman and at the point when I felt that public disclosure of this relationship was imminent, I phrased my admission in a manner consistent with the belief that what transpired between us was nobody’s business but ours and those individuals we chose to share it with. This was also, as I mentioned earlier, done to provide Rep. Haley with maximum maneuverability in terms of how she chose to address the issue publicly. In fact, she could have admitted to kissing me one time and that would have been the end of it as far as I was concerned. I certainly would have never confirmed nor denied anything beyond that.
Obviously she decided to pursue another course of action.
Additionally, I have also refrained from discussing the ”feelings” Rep. Haley and I had for each other because I believe South Carolinians have suffered through more than enough emotional “over-disclosure” from our politicos. Heck, one Mark Sanford interview alone provides more than enough “sharing” to last the people of this state a lifetime.
So … what happens now?
Obviously Republicans must go to the polls Tuesday – and in all likelihood again on June 22 – to determine who they want to represent their party in the fall election for governor.
My advice to them?
“Good luck with all that …”
By Whippersnapper June 5, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Will, your deperation is showing. Maximizing the number of words in your post does not compensate for your lack of real substance.
Baby, you grabbed the tar baby of innuendo and character assassination – it’s not working but you’re stuck with it and its effects on your reputation. These effects will be with you for your entire life.
“oh what a tangled web we weave….”
By PandaChris1 June 5, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Will:
During this whole fracas, I have defended your side and continue to believe that you and Haley had that relationship that you claim.
I was amazed that you were blindsided by the Haley campaign’s response and how you have been treated by the Sanfraudians. I mean, you worked with those guys for years…did you not figure out what kind of people they were? For them, it is about POWER not reform, not transparency. They use those issues to build political support for themselves but really have no desire to implement those ideals when it applies to them.
Also, if Haley was willing to cheat on her husband and the father of her children to carry on a relationship with you, what makes you think she would not be willing to throw you under the bus when it suits her? Ask her husband about her character and integrity!
By yarrrrr June 5, 2010 at 3:11 pm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50600925@N08/4641268658/
Ya know, if Knotts is the one with the picture like some have been saying then there’s a video out there now that will kill his career… if it isn’t already dead yet…
By yarrrrr June 5, 2010 at 3:14 pm
BTW, how does Kathleen Parker get away with saying she knows and believes both of you…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/04/AR2010060403768.html
By PR Flak June 5, 2010 at 3:16 pm
So tell us Will, was it a love story with your soulmate?
By PR Flak June 5, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Or vice versa?
By thesushi June 5, 2010 at 3:24 pm
Wait, so vote for Nikki Haley because she’s a created entity in politics, supported by the establishment of the GOP that is grooming her for their purposes?
Or don’t vote for Nikki Haley (or anyone else at all, I’m gathering) because she’s lying about this affair?
I understand the legal ramifications that you have to deal with, but I’m a bit fuzzy on that middle part where no one’s worthy, except the one that lied.
And is CNN really going to cover this story? Are other media outlets going to receive the same data? After all, if it’s out there, there should be some sort of legal cover for it.
By Richard June 5, 2010 at 3:25 pm
How does it feel to be the second most despised man in South Carolina? And you just missed beating out that filthy redneck pig-our own Boss Hog-Jake Knotts.Thank God next Tuesday we can start the process of sweeping the pigpen of SC GOP politics clean.No evidence,no respect!
By Paris Sailin June 5, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Well put, Mr. Folks. I don’t understand the insistence of the Haley apologists to not see the forest through the trees.
Again, I am a Democrat from out of state (Indiana), so my interest here is merely to watch the GOPer on GOPer carnage, and to irritate the doctrinaire Gee-Oh-Peebaggers as much as I am able.
But, I actually started feeling sorry for you when you were so viciously attacked for telling the truth with a heavy heart.
Hey, just remember that there is always a place at the table for you in the Democratic Party. We liberal progressives are almost like Roman Catholics. We embrace anybody and everybody.
Good luck to you. I will continue posting for awhile (until Haley withdraws in shame, for sure). I certainly won’t want to miss the “I told you so” aspect.
I enjoy reading and responding to many of the regular posters on this site (from all parts of the political spectrum) and am glad to have discovered it (even in such a strange manner).
By More on LCI June 5, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Quick research on Haley and the LCI committee turned this up.
From an October 2008 Free Times article:
**Haley now has a challenger for the first time since being elected, and while she doesn’t totally discount her opposition, her focus might be on a different race — one that would start immediately if she is re-elected.
“I am running for chair of the Labor, Commerce and Industry [LCI] Committee,” she says, referring to a key House committee.**
LINK: http://free-times.com/index.php?cat=1992912064017974&ShowArticle_ID=11012210084361698
Also, from same October 2008 story: “And if Haley wins another term, she seems confident she will be the future leader of LCI. Whispers of “first woman governor of South Carolina” might not lag far behind.”
Not a public election, but still, people were writing about it…
By SC Integrity June 5, 2010 at 3:49 pm
The only part I’m curious about at the moment is how NH was in a position (pardon) to thwart the blessed union.
By Carpe Jugulum June 5, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Frankly, sir, you are starting to sound like a foot stomping brat. As hard as this may be for you, and your “team” to grasp, nobody is particularly interested in your story. Its impact lasted for your fully allotted fifteen minutes of fame, but that time has long ago expired. The only person who has the slightest interest in whatever your relationship with Haley was, is you. By the way, your smarmy comments about the consequences that will result in November can best be described as sophomoric. They sound like the chidings of an immature teenage girl; “You better watch out….you just wait and see”….Oh, please.
For some one who lived “in agonizing hell” for weeks, in fear that revelations regarding your “inappropriate physical relationship” with Mrs. Haley would become public, you have made an amazing recovery. Now you can’t seem to stop talking about it. Your wife must have to hood you like a falcon to shut you up so she can get some sleep.
Libel suits? Retractions? Man, get a grip. Before this crap hits the courtroom she is going to have to produce somebody that actually believes this this swill. It would be the equivalent of suing you for picking your nose at the dinner table. So far all you have demonstrated is a lack of good manners. Neither your words nor your writings have carried the weight to affect her, or opinions of her, one way or the other.
Your story is boring. Now fetch your rattle so you can throw it again.
By Andy June 5, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Nothing better than watching politicos eat each other. Oh, wait, that didn’t come out right.
By injuredlist June 5, 2010 at 3:59 pm
It seems that many blog-hosters become bored with analyzing news stories (or begin to believe that we readers consider them to be more important than the message that they are delivering), so they make themselves the story. Sad but unsurprising, then, that Sic Willie** has succumbed to the same temptation.
** Having noted Will Folks’ ample stomach in the Sanford-Folks-Haley photo, I think a better nickname would be “Thick Willie.”
By countryboy June 5, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Assuming there was a sexual affair, what “the founding editor” could have done is covered it with the wife, reached an understanding with her, then advised Haley that someone might be making the affair public. He could then have told Haley he would never be the one to make it public and he would not admit it if someone one else made the claim. So the “founding editor” taking the position he “had” to break the story is complete and total bull$hit in my opinion.
In Nikki’s defense, again assuming there was an affair, I can understand her denial. She is at least trying to convince the kids it didn’t happen and maybe the husband as well.
But I am still going to vote for her as long as she is a candidate because the other Republican candidates are a joke and I won’t vote for a democrat again until Obama and Spratt are out of office.
By Marlboro County Resident June 5, 2010 at 4:10 pm
You think this scandal stinks, have a look at this: http://www.fitsnews.com/2010/03/23/whats-up-in-cheraw-sc/
By TheRightMan June 5, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Will Folks:
“Believe it or not, I am a Southern gentleman…”
Are you KIDDING me? You, sir, are the most despicable political hack in history and you will certainly go down in infamy!
I mean, where do I start by illustrating the lack of logic in your long-winded article? You start by saying Haley’s primary opponents are all worse than her and how she is your preferred candidate. And then, with the same breath, you turn round and accuse her of infidelity, untruthfulness, and every evil thing you can think of. So we are to vote for a person with all these flaws?
The truth will certainly come out and I know it will point to either one of her primary opponents or one of the Democrats. Because there is something called motive and so far you haven’t clearly explained to your audience why you “kissed and told.” Same as Marchant that claims to have had a sudden pang of conscience after over 2 years that led him to confess to Andre Bauer (Note: not a primary obligation to his wife). You are all crooks and I will sooner exchange my bank details with Nigerian scam artists than trust either of you.
The theme that also seems to be running through your article, Andre Bauer’s campaign, and comments from Paris Sailin (who I still suspect of being your alter ego) is that Nikki should release her phone records and other information. For what? So you could go through for fodder to use against her in the general? How soon do you think the conversation will shift from alleged infidelity to spending etc.. if she were to release the records.
My conclusion: currently, you have nothing on her and this is all a form of blackmail to either damage her so she’s unelectable or hold some sword over her head so she doesn’t change the status quo when elected. Sorry, you’ve failed miserably and the gravy train has come to a stop.
Governor Haley – start pronouncing it and get used to it!
By Balsak Tee Baghar June 5, 2010 at 4:29 pm
I can inform you on what is “physically inappropriate”!
Jakie Knotts trying to pull his head out of his pork butthole to make apologies to the media!
Let the chips fall where they may!
Let a thousand boyfriends come out of their heterosexual closets!
Nobody cares!
Nikki Haley is on a steamroller!
Who cares if the panties were lowered if the taxes will go even lower?
Who cares about small adultery in exchange for tiny government?
Porky Jakie or hot Nikki?
You don’t have to be Indian-American to do that kind of math!
You don’t have to spell like an Indian-American schoolgirl to know who is full of pig farts and who is a proven hot leader!
Wake up South Carolina and smell the New Age of fiscally conservative progress . . . with curry!
So what if Nikki would like a strange penis on occasions? Plenty of men in the high places of South Carolina can say the same!
A Moonpie is not the only graham-cracker sandwich in this state!
Palin-Haley 2012!
I can see India from my house!
By Hermione June 5, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Wow. This actually smack of truth.
By Hermione June 5, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Correction: “smacks” of truth.
By Cronopio June 5, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Hang in there, Will. Most of the world outside of the SCGOP believes you.
By Southern to the Core June 5, 2010 at 4:48 pm
What happened to “never start anything you can’t finish?”
Let me get this straight. So………… you think it’s okay to print innuendos with a minimum of proof, dribble out little details all along, string the voters along until primary day and then allow thousands of your fellow SC’ns to go to the polls uninformed of the whole truth?
It would seem that if you want the public to read your blog, you owe us better than that. Sure bloggers don’t have the high standards we have set for the MMM but there has to be SOME credibility. The only way to gain that is the truth – the whole truth – now that you have started it.
After all, you are the one who brought it up. So to speak.
By Palmetto Pulse June 5, 2010 at 4:52 pm
My opinion, for what it is worth, is simple. I, like Will, believe that a person’s sexual life is their business; their fidelity, or lack thereof, is not my concern. Your boy parts can fall into whatever girl parts it likes, or vice-versa. I personally believe that unfaithfulness to your wife, partner or significant other is a sin – but that’s just me. Nikki had my vote for the other three choices are just, well, awful. And eventhough my intelligence says I should still vote for her, I can’t.
See, for me, my decision was made for me. She lied. She lied, lied, lied, lied, lied. To save herself from a certain downward spiral, she lied. I hate liars. She could have said no comment or just confirmed it – she didn’t have to lie. And the other awful thing is she’s knowingly taking Palin, Sanford and Romney down with her.
So here I am a Conservative without a nominee. Three days from the polls and I have no idea what to do. And, I bet dollars to doughnuts that I am not alone. It’s a bit of a quandry no doubt. The liar, the DC insider, the inept or the more inept. There’s got to be a better choice. I’d rather Sanford stay in office. He atleast told the truth.
By sober rover June 5, 2010 at 5:05 pm
to me, your comments smack of validity and honesty.
I mean, why NOT take a polygraph test to prove honesty
and also if one doesn’t know someone very well, then how can one also say they spoke for hours at a time(hours at a time) about serious political matters. Also, the WP author has major issues with men sharing their feelings…What is UP with that? We’ve come a long way,baby.
By phil tup June 5, 2010 at 5:07 pm
will,
i don’t have a dog in this fight, and i can only say that from an outsider’s perspective, your story continues to resonate and you remain credible, especially in light of all of the evidence you have released, combined with haley’s continued stonewalling.
that said, it is driving everyone that believes you absolutely bananas that we know, you know and have more, and could easily land the knockout blow by dropping a couple of intimate details. the kind of thing that one would have had to have “been there” to know, or give up the name of the picture holder(s), or any other number of details.
even if she continued to look into the camera and lie through her teeth, someone, likely her hubby, would break (unless he’s in on it, too).
so, i hope you’ve hired some good legal help to fortify those other details, but for crying out loud, would you have them hurry up?!?
By bj June 5, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Hang in there Will. I’ve followed your site and leads for a long time and you’ve been right each time. I don’t agree with you politically, but you have creds with me.
By TheRightMan June 5, 2010 at 5:08 pm
Let’s continue with the unpleasant task of trying to decipher the logic in your statement:
“Until two weeks ago, my website planned on endorsing Rep. Haley- whose political career I have aggressively championed ever since this website was created three-and-a-half years ago.”
So we are to believe that you supported her to the hilt until just TWO WEEKS ago to the extent that you were about to ENDORSE her? Then what happened? Money changed hands? Or you had a come-to-Jesus moment and started feeling remorseful all of a sudden about an alleged affair that took place eons ago? Do you know how sick this sounds? It sounds like schizophrenia – GOOD WILL FOLKS supports Haley and will like her to win, but BAD WILL FOLKS likes to kiss and tell and must confess… must confess… must confess.
By Gary June 5, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Will
No body is buying your “I was forced to release because every day some news outlet was asking you the questions” This alibi has proved to be a hoax. Even if you had a relationship with her ( which I HIGHLY doubt) you have betrayed her and created mess. And what do you expect from NH some kind of hugs when you smear her like this? Naturally she will defend herself..so don’t act like you are the victim. And this nonsense that she should have just said that we kissed speaks volumes about your desperation and manufacturing the lies.
If you have anything – come forward just now. Why do you need to hide behind attorneys if you have some thing to say and show which is TRUTH. Do it now. Do it today so that SC are spared of the agony . Otherwise come clean and you will ultimately be rehabilitated. Come on be a man.
By Fred June 5, 2010 at 5:26 pm
All of this makes me truly believe the Vincent Sheheen is the best choice that we have for our next Governor.
This article sums up Vincent’s campaign and how it has risen above the fray of dirty politics.
http://www.thestate.com/2010/06/05/1317865/sheheens-positive-campaign.html
I think that he comes off as a bit of a bumpkin but this guy truly understands the ins and out of Government as well as ANYONE in Columbia.
VincentSheheen.com
By Brian O'Connor June 5, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Aw come on! You say that you hit that, but you’re not going to vote for her?
Are you holding out your support because there someone else in the Governor’s race that you bagged?
Brian O’Connor
http://www.RedDogReport.com
@RedDogReport
By Reality Check June 5, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Whether or not your so far unproven allegations are true, you sound like an incredible lowlife jerk.
If they are true, she was either very smart or very lucky to not stay involved with you. Not all marriages last forever and stay perfectly monogamous the whole time. That’s ideal, but in fact most marriages either end in divorce or involve some infidelity at some point from one or both partners.
If she ever did develop feelings for somebody else and stray, she should have chosen someone better than you.
By Max The Dog June 5, 2010 at 5:37 pm
FITSNews is not only the leading voice of the reform movement in South Carolina, it is (and will continue to be)* Insane and lying little piss ant kid who has no idea what reality is in the real world
If you are the leading political reform movement in South Carolina, than you should consider a life time career as the savior of the Universe…….
By Paris Sailin June 5, 2010 at 5:39 pm
TheRightMan
(sigh) You’re unmatched insight aside, I am not Will Folks’ alter ego. A simple google of my “name” will show hundreds of postings and comments on other sites. A quick reading of some of those will show similarity in style and substance to these. If you really need to know one way or the other, you can put yourself at rest on this yourself.
I don’t know why right-wingers think that anyone with similar opinions on a blog must be the same person, but I suspect it’s some kind of feeling of inadequacy thing.
That said, I never advocated a position that Haley should release her e-mail records. If you would actually read anything before replying to it without being so distracted by formulating your “incisive” response in what passes as your head, you would know this.
What I have advocated is her releasing her own phone records to bolster her ridiculous response to Folks’ release of phone records. She claimed that her late night into early morning phone conversations with Folks during the time period of his alleged affair were work-related, that this was standard modus operandi with her and her staff, and that everyone who knows her knows this.
Fine, then it should be a simple matter to produce her own records of some of these late night work-related calls with others.
End of story then, wouldn’t you say?
She won’t because she can’t. Her claim is just another one of her absurd lies.
By Jonny D June 5, 2010 at 5:46 pm
you better START talking ’bout those “feelings”, homboyie, or I’m coming over and gonna fuck u up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyBcHUe4WeQ
By Robert June 5, 2010 at 5:47 pm
You’ve told so many lies, it should be no surprise that only a few believe that what you say is true.
By dead agent caper June 5, 2010 at 5:54 pm
Is it the same Will Folks who confessed to and was convicted of beating up his girlfriend that is now referring to himself as a “southern gentleman”?
By dead agent caper June 5, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Yor claims of having an “inappropriate physical relationship” are made to keep you from being sued to the hilt, not to graciously allow the victim of your accusations “maximum flexibility”. That’s why you’ve got the lawyers working on this right? What “southern gentleman” runs around day after day trying to convince as many people as possible that he had sex with a married woman? Face it, Wil, you are radioactive. Beyond being incredibly sleazy, your actions are just plain dumb.
By TamaraBelle June 5, 2010 at 6:12 pm
If I have to read one more time that what did — or did not — go on between Nikki Haley and a paramour is a private matter and unrelated to her ability to govern, I am going to just cry. Doesn’t anyone object anymore to hypocrisy?!
If Nikki Haley is an adultress, she proved herself a liar long before she denied the affair with Will Folks; her self-professed commitment to “family values” itself was a lie. If she is an adultress, she is also seriously emotionally immature, living her life pretending to be one thing while actually being the opposite.
It’s one thing to be a person who can’t — or won’t — honor marital vows and is honest and upfront about his or her inability — or disinclination — to honor them. THEN we can have a debate about whether or not such is relevant to one’s ability to govern. But being a bloody HYPOCRITE about it should automatically disqualify you.
By Stinkbait June 5, 2010 at 6:25 pm
SOUTHERN GENTLEMAN????? This may be high drama, but you’re low life.
By The Truth Shall Set You Free! June 5, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Will,
The only people who do not believe you are the ones who want Haley as their Governor. I, too, supported Haley and her transparency until she became a hypocrite and compulsive, yes compulsive, liar! She and Bill Connor must have gotten their ethics from the same book, and it ain’t the Good Book!!!
Bill has also denied being unfaithful to his wife, and I know without ANY DOUBT that he had a months long affair with a woman in law school from September 2002 until January 2003. And, yes, there is ample proof, including e-mails and pictures. He talked negatively about his wife at the time, and yes, he professed to have fallen in love with this woman, whom he called his “soul-mate”, just as ol’ Sanford did. Ah, but he never did so publicly. Quite the contrary, he threw the woman under the bus when the affair ended. That’s when the lies really started.
Now, Connor claims he has not been unfaithful and has had a wonderful 19 year marriage. What you did was honorable, Will. You told the truth! Everyone wants to say that you should have kept your mouth shut, but you felt you needed to tell it as it was. And, you are right; Haley could have handled it better. She should not have lied. The people of SC will NEVER forgive her for making fools of them the way she has. I also admire the fact that you were never out to hurt her, she did that herself with her blatant lies and flagrant disregard for you and your family.
As for Haley’s husband, I have no clue why he would stand by her, unless he really believes her, which is very sad and pathetic. You had better believe if my spouse had carried on the way Nikki did with you, i.e. talking at all hours of the night and into the morning, and proof was provided via phone records, I would have no trouble believing the accuser.
But, maybe he is just like Connor’s wife, who knew all about his affair. However, she wants to be the “Lt. Guvna’s” wife, so she is looking the other way. She did keep him on a short leash in law school after his affair. Now, however, she seems to have forgiven him and thinks his lying is fine as long as he is not lying to her.
How can any man or woman condone lying to the people of SC? Don’t they realize once a liar, always a liar.
Both Haley and Connor claim to have “found” Christ, but that doesn’t keep them from breaking the commandments, two I can think of right away: Adultery and Bearing False Witness. Perhaps they are above the commandments, just as they think they are above common ethical standards. This sort of duplicity is the type that breeds more evil in the world.
If either of these people were really Christians, they would have confessed and sought forgiveness from God, their spouses and the people of SC. Liars never win, not in the long run.
Consider this scenario: Haley is elected (and I think she will be because of her lies). Haley then resigns, as promised, when the proof comes out. Just like that, Connor, the likely winner of the Lt. Gov. race, also because of his lies, is your governor. And, so the story goes-we have yet another governor with a “Sanford” problem.
Keep your chin up, Will. Down the road, these naysayers will be back to your site to read your well written posts and their anger about Haley-Gate will dissipate. It is only a matter of time until the Haley house of cards implodes.
Prayers are with you and your family. Don’t let the liars get you down. The truth is, they just can’t handle the truth!
By Enough June 5, 2010 at 6:36 pm
I just dont wanna see Gresham in the runoff
By slinky June 5, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Hang in there, FITS. Someone who would cry for transparency and then tell numerous lies does not deserve to be elected – to anything.
By CarolinaWoman June 5, 2010 at 6:56 pm
The primary is Tuesday and there will probably be a run-off on June 22. People better think long and hard about their vote and be sure. Whoever wins the primary will be on the ballot in November. We will have five months before the election, five long months of one GOP vs one Dem for governor.
If the Haley trash continues to escalate and gets any dirtier than it is now we will have a Sheheen, Rex or Ford sitting in the capitol. Which means the GOP literally gives the dems the governor race simply from how one votes in June.
I still don’t understand Haley’s comment Thursday, “if she is elected governor and irrefutable evidence of an affair surfaces, she would resign.”
By Simple Pete June 5, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Anybody who knows Will knows he isn’t afraid to say stuff on the record. He wouldn’t use sock puppetry to get his point out, doesn’t fit his m.o.
I was accused of being a Folks sock puppet earlier, which if you knew who I was you’d think was totally ridiculous. He and I are usually on the opposite side of things, even though I have a lot of faith in him to tell the truth on things. I also know that not everything Will does as is carefully calculated as people seem to think, and he’s a guy that has emotions. And even though we’re not always on the same side, I’ve never had any malice towards him, and I believe that he was telling the truth about revealing this before the media hit him with it.
I don’t have the slightest bit of inside info, and this could be the greatest long con in the history of politics. But the evidence so far has stacked up pretty heavily on Will’s side (and Larry’s too). And Nikki’s strategy of uncorroborated denial and refusal to release documents, etc., has not endeared me to her.
I’ve had women bosses before, and men too. If I made a sexual allegation against any of them, they could quickly produce reams of emails that don’t disclose the hint of sexual innuendo. And yeah, that’s not proof positive that nothing happened, but it’s pretty good evidence. If Will’s emails and whatnot to Nikki had a professional tone, she’d have released them already. That she hasn’t tells me that they must have a lot of innuendo in them or maybe full-on sex talk. That, to me, is the most damning fact out there re Nikki.
I will also say, however, that Larry Marchant’s polygraph has the potential to totally change the whole dynamic of this race. If he passes, and I can’t imagine he will fail since he has agreed to take it, that may resonate far outside the chattering classes in Columbia.
By Fred June 5, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Vincent Sheheen for Governor.
To hell with all of this scandal. Lets have a Gov who wants to LEAD our State!
By Just Another SC Voter June 5, 2010 at 7:53 pm
Will, spare me the victim card plea. YOU brought this upon yourself so deal with it. Take the damn (WACH FOX) polygraph! It’s not going to cost you a dime other than your already shotty credibity.
Btw.. it’s probably good that you don’t endorse. Of any candidate across the state, no one wants your name behind them.
By Just Another SC Voter June 5, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Correction… “credibility”
By Dana Blankenhorn June 5, 2010 at 7:56 pm
You really are an asshole.
http://www.danablankenhorn.com/2010/06/whats-wrong-with-south-carolina.html
But you and your state are great fun. Thanks for taking our attention away from the tragedy in the Gulf!
By Paris Sailin June 5, 2010 at 7:57 pm
This is pure wild speculation, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Will’s wife encouraged him (to put it mildly) to out the official word of this affair and mess up Haley’s plans big time. I find it intriguing in his post that he mentions them discussing and planning this disclosure together – and right after Folks discloses that Nikki would have liked to prevent their marriage.
Maybe Will’s coming clean on this has the added benefit of showing his wife that the affair is irretrievably over, with a small side dish of cold revenge served up by the two of them together for domestic tranquility reasons.
Again, pure speculation pulled from my orifice, but thought I’d throw that out there.
By HHI June 5, 2010 at 7:59 pm
How come this website’s founder has such a disdain for social conservatives?
Southern Gentleman? I hope one day you really will be one.
By Triple Zero June 5, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Why shouldn’t people be suspicious that Will was paid off? Again, until there is real proof, his credibility is nonexistent.
By Sally June 5, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Let me see…
You do realize Will that you have made controversy statements. I won’t tell you what these statements are because I won’t make it that easy for you. If I was you, I wouldn’t say anything else because the more you type about this the more you contradict yourself. However, it is sad watching adults act like this. .
By rb June 5, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Will Folks is either a liar or a snitch…and nobody likes either one. It’s difficult for me to believe Nikki had an affair with Folks. Have you seen a picture of him? Folks is fat, ugly and from what I’ve read about him, completely lacking in personality. And Nikki? She’s a MILF who could do much better than Will Folks.
By George June 5, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Adulterer or not, given the sorry Republican choices, there is no doubt that Haley is the best of the pick. Gresham is too sleazy and conniving; Bauer doesn’t have a first lady so he will have to be both governor and first lady; and McMaster sounds stupid.
By BIN News Editorial Staff June 5, 2010 at 9:15 pm
sic(k) willie started this moronic post claiming “numerous Republicans” have contacted him.
Actually, no respectable elected official (there are a few) will go near (to)xic willie these days.
Some tuneage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU
Just remember that this cr@p is brought to us by the same paid political pimp who once claimed a Midlands’ elected official has a Strom Problem.
BIN News Editorial Staff
Flair & Balanced,
P.S. Our Funding Editor thanks her loyal readers who have asked about her health and well being. She wants you to know she is fine. She had a bad hemerroid flare up over the last few weeks, and when that happens most of her staff leaves for Bora Bora until things settle back down.
By USC GEECHEE June 5, 2010 at 9:15 pm
I am so old, I can remember when it would have been easier to find a sandlapper willing to own up to being a descendant of Gen. William T Sherman, than to admit to being a Republican. We became a republican state when the fathers of today’s good old boys used lies and fear supplant the Democratic stronghold on our state’s government. Therefore, why would anyone be surprised that the lack of truth and/or fact has remained the main tenet of the SC GOP electoral process. I don’t trust anything a politician says and that is doubled for their operatives.
By Paris Sailin June 5, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Yes, Triple Zero:
Phone records showing 700+ phone calls, many of them 2-3 hour late night into early morning calls during the same time he alleges the affair . . .
A laughable “explanation” by Haley that these were business as usual for her . . . (hmm, may prove to be so, in a sense) . . .
Text messages showing Haley’s campaign lied about not being in touch with Folks before affair news was published . . .
Corroborating like testimony by Marchant . . .
No legal moves by Haley to force a retraction, to restrain, or to sue for libel . . .
Yes, nothing credible to prove anything here, Triple Zero. Move along.
By Call me Ava June 5, 2010 at 9:35 pm
This saga has reiterated two key points: both social conservatives and fiscal conservatives are hypocritical liars.
By Paris Sailin June 5, 2010 at 9:37 pm
BIN News Editorial Staff
Was that supposed to be witty or something?
Wow, impressive.
And it would be even more so if you learned how to spell.
By Uncle Walter June 5, 2010 at 9:46 pm
The surest path to the Governor’s Mansion for a Democrat (Sheheen, probably) is for Nikki Haley to win the GOP nomination. Add this scandal to the miserable relationship she has with most of the General Assembly and that spells a sure win for Vince. Hell, I might vote for him if it comes to that! I just hope Republicans in SC pick someone else. Even Andre’ (gag) gives them a CHANCE to win. Nikki doesn’t.
By Natasha June 5, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Hang in there Sic one, we believe you. But who do we vote for? I can’t stomach voting for a liar. And I sure as hell can’t stomach voting for any of those other buffoons…
By Natasha June 5, 2010 at 9:48 pm
But I do think you need to at least share one titillating email or something that offers valid proof of your claims. Anything, before Tuesday. To put the naysayers to rest.
By phil tup June 5, 2010 at 10:01 pm
http://www.midlandsconnect.com/news/story.aspx?id=466015
another train wheel is coming off the track (in slow mo, of course, like everything else with this hi drama).
let’s follow this one, shall we? this is gonna be interesting as to how she plays this out – currently refusing, but i can hear a chorus rising in the distance (as pearson does everything in his power to steer her away from it until prim(ary) time).
i’m not a gambler, but am curious to know what’s the line in atlantic city / vegas as to when she confesses?
ps @ paris. also, will mentioned that his wife intercepted a prior text and sent one back from will’s phone, identifying herself as his wife and saying something along the lines of “let’s keep it professional”.
so, it sounds like will was gonna stick with to guns re: nikki endorsement before the story got hot and maybe even piss off his wife in the process?
instead his hand gets forced, he confesses albeit gently and with plenty of running room, nikki’s camp blows the underhanded lob and smashes it back at him. will (slowly) goes off on her, in response.
some domestic tranquility for the payback? yep. no more nookie from nikki, of course, but prolly many happier nights at home!!!!
By Rylyn June 5, 2010 at 10:10 pm
I’m thinking whoever has that Knotts video that has him in a “comprimising position” could really make some money right now!!! Of course thinking about Knotts in any “position” is disgusting!
By Lynn June 5, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Will, your posting is too long to read.
I read your last paragraph and it seems that you are not endorsing Nikki out due to her dishonesty regarding her affair with you. She picked her own poison in deciding to lie about the affair with you and the other guy.
Given the alternatives, I still support her.
We all must pick our own poison every voting day.
By Uncle Walter June 5, 2010 at 10:35 pm
SIC is dead right about the mainstream media laying back on this story. They so badly want Haley to be the nominee they can taste it. Then they will have exactly what they want:
1. Months to take her down. MSM reporters are stretched thin these days and good reporting takes time. But like vultures, they eat slow.
2. A self-writing story. Can you imagine how much fun it will be for the dailies to cover the GOP tearing itself apart as it becomes apparent their nominee is a proven lier and cannot win? Easy copy is the wet-dream of a beat reporter.
3. A Democrat Governor in the reddest of the red states during the 2012 GOP Presidential Primary. Sweet revenge as far as the MSM are concerned.
GOP, nominate ANYONE other than her and you still have a chance. If you don’t, well you don’t deserve to lead.
By thesushi June 5, 2010 at 10:37 pm
“Text messages showing Haley’s campaign lied about not being in touch with Folks before affair news was published . . .”
that and the phone calls still remain consistently undefeated. So the big question is why Haley’s lying already to the people of South Carolina, claiming she would resign as Governor before even being nominated?
Sure it’s smoke, but it is Will’s fire. My curiosity is piqued now that there has been ample time to secure legal cover. If Will’s advocating against Haley (I re-read the statement a few times to be sure!)…I figure it’s been quite enough time to be able to finally say something about it. After all, there’s no reason to further deny the press, is it?
Haley’s camp has done everything to quash this, through quite a series of high-profile hitters, Palin, Erickson, Geraghty, and the irony of both Sanfords reiterating that they’re the powers that are pushing this candidate upon South Carolina.
They employ the same PR firm that defended Sanford, and fed Erickson this little gaffe: http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/06/23/the-lessons-of-mark-sanfords-hike/
And with the claims of Bauer’s direct involvement, people are redirected from the real question, one that journalists have missed…
Why’d Haley lie? I’m still waiting for shoes to fall on the affair thread, but Haley sure didn’t tell the truth about her business/personal discussions with Will Folks.
So there continues to be a reason to pursue a story, and even more emphasis going into the next 72 hours. If not done now, then it will be done later, when the fate of the GOP in South Carolina becomes too big to fail.
I’d say support Nikki Haley if she represents the best for SC. But don’t discard the fact that she did lie about her relationship with Folks.
Will’s documented how they’ve been in contact.
Haley has not provided any detail of how they “haven’t” been in contact.
Should be pretty easy to show documentation of other late night calls, equal representations of phone call discussions from any month…
Story’s still relevant, if not more relevant now.
By TheRightMan June 5, 2010 at 10:38 pm
Obviously, Will Folks’ strategy has now shifted to sowing doubts in Republicans about the viability of Nikki in the general vs the Democrat. After spearheading a failed attempt to sully her name and character, he is now trying to argue that she is damaged goods. He is also insinuating in this article that he will try to continue the ‘drip, drip, drip’ strategy even when she goes through the primary. I say, bring it on Mister!
I am willing to bet that your shenanigans are already 98% over. Your strategy relied too much on Nikki getting into a game of countering your allegations by releasing her records and then fishing for dirt in those records. Unfortunately, she is so much smarter than you and your accomplices and did not rise to your bait. So now, you hide behind records being “authenticated and approved for dissemination” by your attorneys. Really? Two weeks after you made your allegation? You mean there was no tangible proof before you shot off your mouth? At least Marchant is smarter – he acknowledged straight out that he had no proof.
Let me give you a word of advice, you only have till Tuesday to come out with any tangible proof if you have any. After the primary, the whole power of the SCGOP will be unleashed against you, and if you think you have had a raw deal – you haven’t seen anything yet. Hope you do not have any skeletons in your closet?
By Are You kidding? June 5, 2010 at 10:43 pm
This is ridiculous. Is there anyone on the list of candidates who has NOT had an inappropriate relationship? Do I dare vote Tuesday?
By Just Another SC Voter June 5, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Nikki Haley is soooooooo going to win.
I had a great day today with my better half. We were out running errands all over town. Of course we were proudly wearing our Nikki Haley T-shirts and you can’t imagine how much support the lady has within the community. It’s an awesome site and an awesome experience. We were approached several times either to compliment us on the shirts, to extend and express their support for her, or for whatever reasons.. they just simply wanted to tell us that they believe in her. Each time, we said the same thing.. “We are proud of Nikki Haley. She will be great for South Carolina and she deserves our vote!” What a great day to be a South Carolinian!
By Joe June 5, 2010 at 10:47 pm
If professors from 5th tier law schools spent more time getting published and less time dicking around on blogs, maybe they would get tenure and maybe their students would pass the SC bar.
By Cancerman June 5, 2010 at 11:09 pm
Everyone has agreed to take a polygraph except Folks and Haley, wonder why that is?
http://www.midlandsconnect.com/news/story.aspx?id=466015
By Paris Sailin June 5, 2010 at 11:31 pm
TheRightMan
“Keep hope alive. Keep hope alive.” – Jesse Jackson, 1980
By MarkInCharleston June 5, 2010 at 11:50 pm
What a horrible waste of time. You Republicans are talking about THIS when we are facing a potential disaster along the east coast?!?!?!
I ask Mrs. Haley:
What are South Carolina’s (your) plans for a widespread toxic disaster along the coastline of our state?
How will you work with local governments in SC to provide response and relief along affected areas?
PLEASE WATCH THIS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE-1G_476nA&feature=player_embedded
What a collosal waste of time. I hope to God the voters see right through your Republican CRAP!
By MaxConner June 5, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Will, I believe you and certainly continue to follow your website as always. I do not always agree with your opinions, but you always provide go coverage on whatever here in Cola and SC. Also, glad that you chose your wife instead of NH. Ms. Sic sounds a lot much better and definitely a superb step up comparing to that NH. Way to go my man. Don’t jeopardize the gold that you now have for a dirt and liar that is ready to bite you as soon as you are no longer useful for her goal!
By thesushi June 6, 2010 at 12:03 am
I’ve got to wonder if this is the deciding factor for other candidates in the race. Supporters of Gresham, Barrett, and Bauer are all obviously rooting for Haley’s downfall, but as politically astute (and/or dirty they could be), something to consider.
The race is now for second place. The obvious disadvantage is on Haley to win with a lesser margin of victory, or poorer turnouts.
http://www.imarepublicantoo.com/
Imagine Operation: Chaos in reverse. All registered voters can vote in the primary in SC. I had to go to Sam’s Club for the big bag of popcorn.
By Column June 6, 2010 at 12:09 am
Great work Folks,,, very impressive and professional… You have excellent writing skills, well organized.
I see the true face of this slu-t now…
By GVille June 6, 2010 at 12:23 am
To Just Another SC Voter: What will you do to these T-shirts when this road wh-ore will soon be out of competition?
Put in garbage? Donate? Or send back to Haley by overnight courier?
By Greg Newton June 6, 2010 at 12:25 am
Why all this focus on Nikki Haley’s appearance? The woman is not that attractive. As well, her husband is no Patrick Swayze. I don’t normally comment on people’s appearance, but why focus on Will Folks lack of male beauty? People have affairs all the time with those who we wouldn’t pair them with.
I also don’t get why Folks has become the “Sleaze” from his allegations. He was afraid that things would come out that would offend his wife. Read that again; his wife. Why not head them off before they become public?
The phone records with the voluminous amount of calls, some late night and lasting an hour or more, DON’T make sense other than in some type of close relationship. Then this allegation from the other politico comes out that he had a one night stand with Haley.
I’m sorry, there is too much smoke there. This isn’t a concentrated effort by the opposition, whoever that is, to sling mud at Haley, and I wouldn’t be surprised if other allegations eventually surface. Haley, just like Mark Sanford, is not what she portrays herself as.
Last, Nikki Haley may have been the Tea Party candidate, BUT is that what SC needs; another Mark Sanford who can’t even get along with his own party? We need someone running our state who can cross the aisles and get things done.
By TheRightMan June 6, 2010 at 2:38 am
Paris Sailin, I certainly will keep hope alive :). It is my hope that Nikki will wipe the floor with her opponents on Tuesday eliminating the need for a second round. It will be doubly wonderful to see Folks, Marchant, Bauer etc… start to turn on each other and spill the whole beans…. one can only hope :).
By Calhoun Fawls June 6, 2010 at 2:41 am
Where were Haley’s kids during those late nights out? Don’t deny that Haley folks, I saw her out. Was her husband deployed?
By Whippersnapper June 6, 2010 at 7:50 am
DOES WILL FOLKS NEED TO PROVE THAT AN INAPPROPRIATE PHYSICAL RELATIONSHIP WITH HELEN THOMAS DID NOT OCCUR? I think he does. Otherwise we have no alternative but to KNOW that it occurred – simply because someone said that it did. Oh Will, how the mighty have fallen – giving your “blessings” to someone from out of state; you’ve betrayed all of South Carolina.
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2010/06/blogger-will-folks-admits-to-affair-with-helen-thomas.html
By Soft Sigh from Hell June 6, 2010 at 8:04 am
Uncle Walter is right. It will be a magnificent show. My popcorn will come from SC’s own Cromer’s though, not Sam’s. And I may well avail myself of the open primaries. Free entertainment opportunities like this just don’t come along every year.
By Bill June 6, 2010 at 8:11 am
i lke Nikki Haley and I am voting for her. And I will work for her in the nov election.
By eggaday June 6, 2010 at 8:24 am
can the SCGOP not produce one credible, honest, decent candidate this year?
did Karen Floyd continue Katon Dawson’s destruction of this party?
did Markie Mark Sanfraud leave his own near and dear party in such turmoil that all “good” candidates fled the race?
people, for the first time in my adult life, there is NO ONE to vote for, but plenty of people to vote against.
By Truth Prevails June 6, 2010 at 9:12 am
Horny NH can win the GOP primary….fine, I don’t care. I have been a Republican since I registered to vote, and I will be voting for Vincent Sheheen in November. Then somehow I hope Columbia is swept clean over the ensuing years from the rot and decay of bigotry, vote trading, selfishness and cronyism currently running amok amoung our unprincipled “leaders” in South Carolina. I want my grandchildren to be proud to be South Carolinians. I’m currently mortified to write my address when traveling away from home. I try to loose my accent so people won’t ask where I’m from…..inveitably they say “what is in the water down there?” People, we are better than this. We deserve more. Stand up and speak out! Vote in Novemeber. Turn away from ALL that is wrong in our State Government.
By Cancerman June 6, 2010 at 9:29 am
I knew a girl named Nikki
I guess u could say she was a sex fiend
I met her in a hotel lobby
Masturbating with a magazine
She said how’d u like 2 waste some time
And I could not resist when I saw little Nikki grind
She took me 2 her castle
And I just couldn’t believe my eyes
She had so many devices
Everything that money could buy
She said sign your name on the dotted line
The lights went out
And Nikki started 2 grind
Nikki
The castle started spinning
Or maybe it was my brain
I can’t tell u what she did 2 me
But my body will never be the same
Her lovin’ will kick your behind
Oh, she’ll show u no mercy
But she’ll sho’nuff sho’nuff show u how 2 grind
Darling Nikki
Woke up the next morning
Nikki wasn’t there
I looked all over and all I found
Was a phone unmber on the stairs
It said thank u 4 a funky time
Call me up whenever u want 2 grind
Oh, Nikki, ohhhh
come back Nikki, come back
Your dirty little Prince
wanna grind grind grind grind grind grind grind grind grind
By Reace June 6, 2010 at 9:34 am
Give it up folks. You haven’t convinced anyone, and the more you grovel the less legit you look. Pathetic.
By Kama Sutra June 6, 2010 at 9:40 am
Southern Gentleman? That’s pretty funny considering the southerners who thought they were gentleman by committing treason against the USA, so they could continue to enslave people.
By Mike June 6, 2010 at 9:41 am
There’s a reason why your economy always sucks, why your education always sucks, why you treat religious and ehtnic minorities like shit, why you don’t play well with others, and why big, fat slob white guys want to reach for guns and do violence whenever someone points out that they really haven’t done good in the jobs they’re supposed to be doing.
Frankly, if South Carolina wanted to do itself a favor, it would prohibit voting by white men who weigh more that 250 pounds for the next 50 years.
By Paris Sailin June 6, 2010 at 9:45 am
Reace says:
“You (Folks) haven’t convinced anyone.”
You late to this comment board or something?
By Vincent Sheheen is my hero June 6, 2010 at 9:50 am
I can see Vincent in his rugged jeep from my piazza in Charlseton! It is a glorious vista. Yes, Vincent, you are the answer. When you are governor, you will make me your right hand, and I will worship you. You will make me your chief fundraiser. I will call on older ladies, because deep down, even though I’m a man, I’m most at home in the presence of old ladies. We can have fancy lunches and gossip. I love you, Vincent. You are so handsome. I love you almost as much as I love commenting on blogs. I love South Carolina politics so much. It makes me forget that I am all alone.
By Groundball June 6, 2010 at 9:55 am
I agree with the Fawls. If she was out all hours of the night, where were the children? On the nights she was at home she apparently put them to bed and talked on the phone all night. Something just isn’t right here.
I know her husband puts on a uniform every day, but what is his job? Has he ever been deployed outside of Richland County? If he has been deployed to foreign soil, I appreciate his service. I’m not questioning anything, I just don’t know, but it has been an issue Rep Haley has pushed.
For once I truly don’t know who to vote for in the GOP Governor’s race. Or any other GOP primary race for that matter. This has been one self destructive party led by the Governor and all other statewide GOP officials of the past 8 years.
Name one truly worth voting for. Look at the last group: Sanford (Maria), Ravenel (drugs), Sharpe (cock fighting), Eckstrom (stalker e-mails), etc. What’s even more interesting is that all but Ravenel would probably be the pick of the Tea Party.
By Jacobs June 6, 2010 at 10:23 am
NH has had sex with many white men, it proves that people of SC are NOT racists.
By Step to the Right June 6, 2010 at 10:35 am
Once again, I am faced with voting for the “chance” of some form of conservative public policy becoming the foundation of state government verses total retreat backwards to the failed policies of the socialist Democrats!
Let me get this straight. Vincent Sheheen wants to ‘lead’ this state by supporting Obama’s radical liberal Democrat positions through the ‘leadership’ of higher and higher taxes, socialized medicine, public teachers’ unions for ‘no fault’ teaching and complete incompetence, government solutions to every problem, economic development through total government control, use of the race card–which divides the races even more–and by some miracle public policy will be transformed in S.C. because he is a Democrat and has managed to keep his zipper up!
If elected, Sheheen will go right back to the same failed liberal policies that controlled this state’s destiny for the last 200 years. I have heard NOTHING NEW come out of his mouth – The names change but the lack of leadership is always the same.
I will take my chances with ‘new’ conservative hacks any day – at least my pocketbook and individual freedoms are not in as much danger when the conservative hacks are in office. Oh, and I won’t have to look at the usual party losers like Jim Clyburn, John Spratt, Don Fowler, etc. chairing some state-appointed ‘select committee’ while handing out more jobs to their family and falling asleep at town meetings with the rest of the liberal jerks who think their election gives them the right to lie, cheat, steal AND screw around while the government sponsored media covers for them! NO THANKS!
Some Republicans might be unable to keep their zippers up, bras fastened and stupid mouths shut, but at least they don’t think that what is wrong with this state and country is the need for more government, higher taxes and less individual freedom!
When Sheheen, or any other Democrat, condemns Obama let us know.
By libertarian June 6, 2010 at 10:51 am
You are a southern gentleman in the same way Jakie Knotts is a southern gentleman.
By TaylorSC June 6, 2010 at 11:01 am
Step to the Right, you are funny. That bus you’re on is teetering on the edge of the cliff, go ahead and push it over by voting for more of the same in politics for this state. The rest of us will just put a bag over our heads when we venture out across state lines.
By CNSYD June 6, 2010 at 11:04 am
Kama Sutra, If these words were OK in 1776, then they also fit 1861.
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
By CNSYD June 6, 2010 at 11:06 am
Mike, are you from SC (and I don’t mean you arrived with a carpetbag in hand)? If not, then STFU. You don’t have a dog in the fight. Next me tell which state in the USA your comments would not apply.
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By Tom Sawyer June 6, 2010 at 11:25 am
Will,
Your endorsement of Nikki Haley is ambiguous. Are you voting for her?
By Mike June 6, 2010 at 11:37 am
Does Briggs v. Elliott ring a bell? After reading it, if you still would like to know the states in the USA to which my comments would not apply, please let me know. I grew up in Colleton County, and my parents had the good sense to get the hell out of the land of fat, repressed, uneducated rednecks long ago, and we moved to the North (it’s them states up yonder after North Carolina, since most of SC’s residents don’t ever leave the state). You know, where people are smarter, better looking, and more interesting than in SC. And I respectfully decline your invitiation to STFU.
By Soft Sigh from Hell June 6, 2010 at 11:47 am
South Carolina, now virtual an outpost of the Third World politically (and socially) and economically, was once arguably the richest and most civilized southern state, with Virginia the only real alternative. NC pine-tree tappers? Georgia penal colony descendants? The hell-hole of Mississippi? The small-farm colony of Alabama? The semi-tropical semi-savagery of Florida? Pulleeze. Even New Orleans could not pull up the rest of Louisiana to make par. But then the long long decline. And just look at South Carolina now. So much potential. Such nice, though easily-led people. Such poor and self-serving leaders.
As George Bush said: “Elections have consequences.”
By strikethetent June 6, 2010 at 11:47 am
Will, In the words of Ron White: “You had the right to remain silent-you just did not have the ability!”
By TheRightMan June 6, 2010 at 11:59 am
Step to the Right @ 10:35 am
“Some Republicans might be unable to keep their zippers up, bras fastened and stupid mouths shut, but at least they don’t think that what is wrong with this state and country is the need for more government, higher taxes and less individual freedom!”
+5555555555! I totally agree with you, bro.
It never ceases to amaze me how liberals/Democrats choose to not campaign on policies but always on emotion. With Bush and the GOP congress, they whipped the American people into a frenzy by trumping every single issue into a scandal with the connivance of their MSM accomplices. And then once they took over, they messed up the economy (circa 2006) and started trampling on individual freedom as exemplified by the Obamacare debacle.
Sheheen and his supporters on this forum would like to be given the governorship of SC based on what? Liberal policies of tax-and-spend? They will lie, cheat, and do anything, even appear conservative just to get power. But once they get in, it’s fast track to Obama and Pelosi’s failed policies. And if you think any scandals (sex or otherwise) will be given the same media attention as with Republicans, think again. Bill Clinton, John Edwards, Eliot Spitzer, Blagokevich, Blumenthal, Rangel… the list goes on. They will seek to re-write the rule books: “In Democrat-land, scandals are resume enhancers.”
I’ll take a conservative/GOP candidate, tarred and feathered with scandals, over a squeaky-clean liberal or pseudo-conservative/Democrat any day.
By Gene J June 6, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Marchant agrees to polygraph, Haley not interested
COLUMBIA — With just days to go before voters decide party nominees in the race for governor, Republican candidate Nikki Haley has been on the receiving end of several accusations.
Two men have come forward claiming they had physical relationships with Haley in the past.
Lobbyist Larry Marchant and blogger Will Folks have made the allegations that have made national media headlines, but neither have offered any substantial proof to back up the claims.
WACH Fox News has offered both Marchant and Folks an invitation to a paid polygraph test conducted by a state licensed expert at their convenience.
WACH Fox News contacted both accusers late Thursday afternoon.
Marchant replied Friday accepting the invitation under one condition; that WACH Fox News announce to Haley that he is challenging her to take the test and get her either accepting or declining on camera.
Regardless of her reply, Marchant said he would then take the test.
So Friday night, our partner FOX Carolina caught up with Haley in the Upstate where she was campaigning.
“What are you going to do, start strapping polygraph tests to everybody making an allegation?” Haley told the reporter on camera. “I think we need to be practical here.”
WACH Fox News will follow up with Marchant to get his response to Haley’s comments.
Folks contacted us Friday morning, however he did not tell us whether he would submit to the lie detector test.
Keep checking back for updates and rely on our Politics Page for the latest on the gubernatorial primary race along with others.
By Soft Sigh from Hell June 6, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Oh Lord, I am going to be mortified when I have to say “Republican” while standing among my neighbors at the table before the voting booths at the primary. But the primary is open and the GOP needs Nikki, to help trigger their fall and then (one hopes) their cleansing. It’s the least I can do. I feel it’s a duty of sorts and maybe I’ll have some Indian pale ales afterward to mentally cleanse myself from the shame of the association
I of course will vote for a responsible leader in November.
By countryboy June 6, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Step to the right – Well said. You reflect my feelings exactly. I voted as an independant for decades and voted for many Democrats along the way but so long as the likes of Obama, Pelosi, Reid and yes, Spratt lead that party I will never vote for another one. And that includes She-heen.
By Another Opinion June 6, 2010 at 1:00 pm
“A union that would never had happened if Haley had her way”? Why would she attempt to keep you & Mrs. Sic from marrying? What kind of woman is Nikki Haley anyway if all this true?
By Brian O'Connor June 6, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Seeking redemption without making a commitment I see.
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By jerry June 6, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Soft moans from Hades,
This whole fiasco is a great distraction from Obama’s shameless mishandling of the BP oil spill and his inability to prevent Iran from obtaining and proliferating nukes.
Yes, zipper talk is a lot more fun, isn’t it, than the reality of Obama’s incompetence?
By CNSYD June 6, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Mike, what has Briggs v Elliott got to do with the discussion. Are you SERIOUSLY trying to tell me that all 49 other states are lily white when it comes to prejudice? I will throw a few out for you. South Boston, Watts, Compton, South Philly, Camden, NJ. Now please furnish the list of states that have NO prejudice of any kind.
BTW, we in SC are thankful you have exited and moved to the glorious North. Yes things are really lovely in Detroit, Cleveland, the South Bronx, etc. The people are so much smarter and better looking. What I can’t understand is why they trip all over themselves to move to SC since it is so bad here.
And since you do NOT live here, you still need to STFU.
By Soft Sigh from Hell June 6, 2010 at 2:04 pm
In all this noisy spectacle, Jerry gets briefly to forget about the Republican Recession too, and the 4000 dead US servicemen in Bush’s unneeded war based on lies in Iraq.
By Billy Bob June 6, 2010 at 2:12 pm
I just love Carpe Dopeium’s (or whoever) logic above that ne one cares and he writes an epistle on it – WTF???
By GDI June 6, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Will, Marchant may not know, but you might. Is she in an open marriage? If so, she isn’t lying about cheating on her husband and you and Marchant aren’t lying either. What’s the scoop?
By Billy Bob June 6, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Mike, you are a true asshole. I am probably a good bit to the left of you on most issues and am a white male over 250 pounds. So, Mr. Asshole, that makes YOU bigot of the year!!!!
By George June 6, 2010 at 2:43 pm
I don’t see what the big deal is with having another adulterer as SC governor. After all, we let Sanford (the self-proclaimed adulterer) continue as governor of SC. Let’s now be biased now.
By Paris Sailin June 6, 2010 at 2:47 pm
TheRightMan
Putting aside the hypocrite angle of the “family values” party of the “holier than thous” – let’s look at your list of Democrats who according to another one of your ignorant posts, “In Democrat-land scandals are resume enhancers.”
Bill Clinton – Impeached – Yeah, no media attention to that one.
John Edwards – Disgraced, subject of ridicule in Democratic circles, again, no media attention on that one.
Eliot Spitzer – Forced from office. Resigned
Blagokevich – Impeached, removed from office
Blumenthal – Jury out, but not a serious “scandal” in the same sense as the others. He misstated and exaggerated (lied about) his military record, but he also mostly told the truth about it.
Rangel – Still under investigation, case not closed. Will face censure, loss of committee when this is over is my prediction
Again, all of these have been roundly publicized by the media. You know that. How did you find out about these things and follow them?
Now, let’s talk about current Senators Vitter and Ensign. Senator Craig wasn’t forced to resign or anything. And that’s just current (or recent) GOP senators.
Again, breathtakingly ignorant claims here. You can do better (I think). Maybe take a deep breath first, or something.
By Shannon June 6, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Will, you are a disgusting piece of low life humanity. Even if you did have the affair, which is doubtful, a real man never kisses and tells. It shows a complete lack of class. Why did your conscience not get the best of you until Haley started beating the good ole boys? I am confident the people of SC will see through your wishful thinking and elect Haley as governor.
By Charlie June 6, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Nobody seems to have noticed Haley’s very careful wording that she has been 100% faithful to her husband in 13 years of marriage. My guess from that is that:
1. She has fooled around with a few people since getting married, Will Folks included – but is hoping there’s no clinching evidence for it.
2. She fooled around before she was married, but suspects there is clinching evidence for that, hence the wording.
(Incidentally, there’s little point in telling people to shut up on a comments board on the internet!)
By jerry June 6, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Muffled Moans from Hades,
Four thousand war dead under Bush? What bout Billy Boy Clinton’s letting Osama Bin Laden walk three times when begged by Sudan to capture him? Yes, elections have consequences and on 9/11 3,000+ Americans died as a direct result of Democrat President Bill Clinton’s incompetence.
My question, how many Americans may die as a result of Team Obama’s inability to prevent nuclear technology from poliferating from Iran?
I see Hamas and Hezbollah from my back yard.
By Just Another SC Voter June 6, 2010 at 3:48 pm
GVille,
As the ole saying goes, “those in glass houses….” You know the rest and btw name calling is just childish.
Regardless of the outcome of this election.. I’ll proudly sport my Nikki Haley T-shirts because I believe in her and her ability to fix our state problems.
Better get used to calling her Governor. For some of you it’s a bitter pill to swallow but she is the right choice for our state. You’ll adjust.
Go Nikki Haley Go!!!!
By Soft Sigh from Hell June 6, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Jerome:
On 9/11 ~3,000 Americans died as a direct result of Republican President “Dub” Bush having no interest in listening to far less responding to the clear warnings that were coming in. He went fishing or played golf or some such after boredly listening to the intelligence summary.
He then used his failure to help lie us into a war he wanted for other reasons.
And invading their next door neighbor on lies sure encouraged Iran to give up the quest for nuclear weapons didn’t it? If your neighbors were home-invaded and half the family murdered, you’d go buy some big guns too wouldn’t you?
I will never vote for a Republican again. They just are not honest.
(And I’m out of this exchange. This is a local board. Also, the Limbaugh lines you parrot are long past interesting or worthy of comment.)
By CNSYD June 6, 2010 at 4:27 pm
All this support for Haley because she will “clean up and/or change SC government”. How is she going to do that? Is she going to suspend the Constitution or write a new one? This is real easy to understand boys and girls, the General Assembly controls this state not the Governor. Haley will be just like the Queen in the UK. Live in a palace and make appearances but has no control over government.
By Paris Sailin June 6, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Muffled Moans from Hades
Please pay attention. This is not a Clinton-Obama-Democrat bashing thread.
I know haters gotta hate and all that, but this thread is about the Haley/Folks affair. Nobody cares about your tired carping.
By Column June 6, 2010 at 5:00 pm
This campaign is going on for a year; but nobody recognized before May 14th 2010 that she was an excellent candidate. And then on the eve of May 14th people were convinced that she was a perfect choice for SC. Has it ever happened in SC before?????
Maybe Knotts is RIGHT that Haley’s campaign is programmed in foreign countries.
By Just Another SC Voter June 6, 2010 at 5:17 pm
CNSYD,
You know Reagan was hated by many as well.. including those that served under him, with him, or opposed him ideology wise Even the main stream media despised him but he was able to succeed because he took issues directly to the people and I believe Nikki will do the same. The first change to take place is within H3047 aka:Roll Call. If anyone can get that bill passed, Haley can. When it passes, then YOU and everyone else will see some HUGE changes with how South Carolina government operates.
By Whippersnapper June 6, 2010 at 5:18 pm
Paris Sailin said above (on June 6th, 2010 at 4:39 pm”
“…..Please pay attention. This is not a Clinton-Obama-Democrat bashing thread……”
Correctamundo, I’ve been under the impression that it was largely a BASHERS thread for Clinton-Obama-Democrat fans to bash Nikki Haley.
By Soft Sigh from Hell June 6, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Purvis Palin:
Learn to follow a thread. Jerome dragged it to Obama (1:11) and directed his post to me. I then just gave some counter-examples. Take your moaning to him.
By Billy Bob June 6, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Seriously, who in control of their faculties would vote for one of these ‘good ole boy, GOP candidates?
Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results!!
By Bill Simpson June 6, 2010 at 5:33 pm
This is complete B/S. No one is asking Will Folks’ opinion on anything and no one cares. He was a nobody before he caused this alleged scandal and he wil resume being a nobody when it blows over – if it hasn’t already. Who will be logging onto this second rate site after that happens?
By libertarian June 6, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Well on May 14th I am assuming many SC voters received that email from Mumbai stating that if they vote for Haley and send a $500 money order with their receipt from the voting machine and 2 box top UPC symbols from Ethnic Gourmet frozen dinners then they would receive $15.8 million wired to their bank account.
Get real. This race is all but over and has been for weeks.
By Soft Sigh from Hell June 6, 2010 at 5:52 pm
There must be some campaign-funded late polling. Has anyone leaked results? Has Haley been hurt, stayed stable, or getting a sympathy surge?
By Brian O'Connor June 6, 2010 at 6:15 pm
From what I understand, PPP has a poll coming out between 7 and 8 eastern.
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By CNSYD June 6, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Just Another SC Voter, so what is the “threat” she will use against the General Assembly? Sanfraud was ignored by them. Any and every bill in the US Congress can be roll called if “a sufficient number” ask for it. Does that affect their votes? I doubt it. If it is a vote they are “scared” of they just don’t show up. It is all just eye wash for the public anyway.
By thesushi June 6, 2010 at 7:14 pm
“Our SC GOP numbers should be out between 7 and 8. Not very close so didn’t feel the need to call right til 9 like usual”
telling pre-game quote.
By thesushi June 6, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Another thing, just as a curious question…What is Haley’s policy goals past a roll call vote in the General Assembly? I have read through her authored bills, and imo, not much there.
By Soft Sigh from Hell June 6, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Sure the stakes are high for the SC GOP, as things can go badly wrong for them politically. But so far as the running of SC is concerned, can it really get any worse than it already is with peevish Sanford and the imperious legislature? Our governor is possibly the second weakest in the nation, with Texas the contender. And in the other direction, who really could improve things notably from that position? It could be improved a bit by cooperating with the real power, the legislature, but are substantial improvements even possible? How much does it really matter who sleeps on Arsenal Hill? It seems like it can get only a little better and not much worse. Not much range, not much opportunity, not much real risk.
By Helen D. June 6, 2010 at 7:45 pm
Maybe Will wanted Nikki to leave her husband and marry him. This is understandable if she is kind-hearted. Maybe she thought about it and decided to stay with her husband, whom she really doesn’t love. Maybe Will was crushed. This is all human nature, not rocket science, and is the stuff of bible stories (think David and Bathsheeba) and Shakespearian plays. Two broken hearts, that’s all. Maybe nothing more “sinister” than that.
By Greg Walton June 6, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Will and Marchant were appropriately and legally very careful and vague in alleging ‘inapproiate physical relationship,’ which could mean almost anything, but most people would assume ‘sexual relationship’. One man’s (or 2-3 men’s) ‘inappropriate physical relation’ could mean another man’s ‘hanging out’ or ‘having a good time’.
Maybe meeting at nightclub (and who knows… ‘dirty’ dancing?) with lobbyists and campaign consultants constitutes ‘inappropriate physical relationship’ for some people while it would be accepted as normal behavior for most people, and isnt a proof of anything ‘inappropriate,’ physically or morally.
By the same token, except for a horny teen, anybody would be worn out by frequent 2-3 hours phone sex or phone ‘love’ conversations (at night, no less), but many people have had many hours-long business-related calls at all hours of the day and night.
Those who keep saying that because Nikki didn’t file a lawsuit against Will is a definite proof of her guilt are either dumb or duplicitous and have an agenda to smear her. Both parties a One, lawsuits are long
Both parties here, Nikki and Will, are smart to keep this out of courts. This is about dirty politics and publicity, not courts; it would take too long, be too late and take too much effort better devoted to her political career. The standard of proof for vague and undefined ‘inappropriate physical relationship’ is too high and trying to prove a negative on Nikki’s part would be impossible, especially as there is nothing to win – courts decisions won’t change political opinions or minds. And if she wins primary and Governorship (which I hope she does, seeing as who other candidates, her opponents, are) there’s the legal concept of ‘proving the harm’ – no harm no foul, as they say in other sports. So for the sake of Will, and everybody else, lets hope Nikki wins the primary and, if necessary, the runoff and Governorship, so we all can start getting out of this swamp.
For Nikki, to file a lawsuit just to satisfy a few agenda-driven blog posters would be stupid. When things get to court because of political infighting, it means things have gotten way too far (eg, AG Henry McMaster’s office is currently persecuting Katherine Jenerette’s family for having the moxie to stand up to the Good Ol’ Boys network – Elliott and Brown; McMaster is also running for Governor, if you havent noticed). Abusing legal system to settle political scores is not a proof of virtue, it’s the worst kind of politics.
Either way, voting for Nikki is better and safer than voting for any other candidate in this race, as she is heads and shoulders above any of the morons and/or slimy GOBs running for Gov. She already said that she would resign if any credible evidence of whatever it is we are expecting to be ‘inappropriate physical relationship’ to be, so it will save us from the agony of recall. It’s safest and best way to start cleaning up the GOBs of slime, corruption and incompetence from Columbia.
Will felt that he was forced to come out with ‘inappropriate relationship’ for sake of his family life and, to that extent, did the minimum possible. After initial kneejerk reaction from her consultants, Nikki seems to be trying to do the same, and let ‘controvercy’ die. Let’s leave it at that, and out of courts, which don’t decide the truth but are used as weapons against political enemies.
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By countryboy June 6, 2010 at 7:57 pm
PPP’s latest poll, just out, has Haley with a 43-23 lead over Gresham with Hollings clone 3rd and Miss Andre(a) 4th. So all you dumbocrats can save it for November and your boy She-heen.
By uh-oh June 6, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Public Policy Polling — new poll — Haley lead holds
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_SC_606.pdf
By Sick of SC Politics June 6, 2010 at 8:55 pm
What’s up with all this southern chivalry BS? We’re not talking about the produce manager of the local Piggly Wiggly calling out the married local librarian he’s been schtupping for the last year. This is about a person running for elected office who is basing their campaign in part on the need for transparency and in the support of conservative family values. You have two seedy political operatives that thrive on attention and appear to enjoy swimming in the cesspool of South Carolina politics — and then you have a politician who apparently believes transparency applies to everybody else and has placed herself above reproach. None of these people look clean to me and I hope the liar (or liars) loses their ass when the truth finally comes out.
By SubZeroIG June 6, 2010 at 9:25 pm
SubZeroIQ
I was banned from posting on The State because I got people too interested. I wonder if they will now let me post one more: I TOLD YOU SO!
If they don’t, I hope my thread friends ColaGameCock, PhilRose, and others see this before it is taken out. Otherwise, please look for it in other media threads on the subject.
I may be the only one in South Carolina who actually printed the Columbia Police Department (CPD) supposed 218 “investigation” AND READ IT ALL.
I hope it is still on the web after I highlight the scandals in it.
I may also be the only one who noticed that Tandy Carter apparently had his secret grievance hearing on Thursday afternoon and that he went to City Hall in his Police Chief uniform, gun at his side and all.
I saw him across the street; and that is impersonating a police officer if you ask me because he was releived of his duties “effective immediately” weeks ago.
Noelle Phillips should have noted in the report that South Carolina Criminal Justice Academy (SCCJA) immediately e-mailed Interim Chief Burke boasting that they refused to answer Noelle’s questions except by giving her a copy of the accident investigation manual, as if she could not have gotten it otherwise.
But that is not the only scandal.
I complained that Tandy Carter had sent EIGHT CPD units to the collision site. I was wrong, he had sent TEN. Their names are in the report.
Not one of the ten interviewed the witnesses on the scene or took a statement from them.
Not one of them took a statement from Benjamin even though one of the first two officers on the scene was instructed to “stand by” Benjamin, apparently holding his hand, until relieved by another officer whose duty it was to also stand by Benjamin, apparently for continued hand-holding.
In the much fanfared Benjamin visit to CPD metro station in early May, and I kid you not, all that happened is that Benjamin and his lawyer, Solomon (of Gergel, yes Gerge, Nickles and Solomon) were “offered bottled water and accepted it.”
They were also offered written question, and took them unanswered and left with no promise to answer them any time soon.
That Sgt Modica, who stood behind Tandy Carter in his supposed Friday, 23 April 2010, supposed “press conference” and heard himself described by Tandy Carter as “by far the best” blah, blah. blah, HAD DONE NOTHING AT ALL.
Then when two officers were later assigned full time to the supposed investigation, they did not return to the collision site to try to calculate the speed until after it was clear the Benjamin will continue to refuse to tell CPD whether he was speeding or not.
They still did not calculate the speed, and according to WIS’s report of what COP spokesman Brick Lewis said, “the investigation is complete.”
“Complete” MY FOOT. It was not even begun.
Even after SC’s Department of Public Safety (DPS) noted specifically that the speeds were not calculated and must be, the CPD is either too lazy or to incompetent to do so.
Folks, that’s not the only glaring scandal.
Benjamin said he was in the left lane. CPD figured the collision occurred in the right lane.
The State House video, posted on The State, shows him without headlight on and also weaving from lane to lane.
The CPD report also claims Benjamin’s lights were in the “on position” even though all witnesses said his lights were off.
There is more if they will let me post it, God willing.
To be Continued, God willing.
By It's Over June 6, 2010 at 11:13 pm
True or not, Fouclks’ motives are jealously and revenge, in either case.
The reality is Fouckls, unless you can prove your fantasies, then Darlin Nikki with be the nominee. And if she thinks it’s been rough so far, wait until the liberals in the AP and elsewhere launch a full assault after she challenges one of their own liberals in the Democratic party.
Hear me now and believe me later, regardless of the outcome Tuesday, Fouclks has put a Spendocrat, one who admits he will gargle Obama’s balls (like Larry Sinclair), in the governors mansion…Governor Sheehan.
By CSOL 2L June 7, 2010 at 7:31 am
I can see India from the Charleston School of Law!
Gov. Sheheen it will be.
By Scarlett June 7, 2010 at 8:58 am
If all the “conservatives” of the SC GOP are STUPID enough to nominate “Hot Crotch Haley”, then they deserve her. Can’t wait to see the new bumper stickers – “Support Your Local Road Whore”
Yeah, I’ll second it, “Good Luck With All That, Ya’ll”
The evening of November 2, 2010 – Meet your new Governor, Vince Sheheen.
With this much blood in the water the Democratic sharks from outside South Carolina are going to pour so much $$$ into the Dem campaign that Haley will have to auction her used panties off on Ebay just to keep up.
Current direction of the South Carolina GOP = Dumb
Nominating Nikky Haley = Dumber
Karen Floyd is just an “AWESOME” party leader, huh? And if you believe that, I have an oyster bed in Louisiana that I swear the oil spill isn’t going to affect — I’d like to sell it to you.
If I’m the Dem opposition in just about any race, I’m loving the fact that I’ll have to spend zero dollars on opposition research (just pay enough to have that hallway tape out of the hotel in SLC surface, and bargain with Knotts for enough $$$ into his next campaign to keep him in that chair — so I can get “the picture”) — the Republicans are doing all my opposition research for me.
By EasleyJack June 7, 2010 at 9:24 am
Sorry Will, but the fidelity issue revolves around honesty and deception. The reason it mattered with Bill Clinton was that he could be that dishonest with those closest to him. The reason it matters with anyone that we put in office is because we must trust them. If they can be that dishonest with the people closest to them then they sure as hell won’t miss any sleep lying to me about things that matter to my family and friends. I get it. Although I am not sure exactly what happened between the 2 of you it is apparent that something inappropriate took place and that isn’t telling the truth. I’d have more respect if she would just come and say that something happened, she and her husband have worked through it and let’s move on.
By Tom Pelican June 7, 2010 at 9:47 am
Come on Will, you have been bought.
You are everything we need to raise our children not to be. I bet you make your parents proud.
By Max June 7, 2010 at 10:04 am
career is over willie, you’re finished. you will never work for a politician again, you will never get close to power again, you will simply fade away, a washed-up loser living dangerously in your world of fantasy and delusion.
your time is up, the media has given up on your evidence-less claims, so now, like the samurai who has disgraced himself, it’s time to do the only honorable thing you can: end it.
By lostcause June 7, 2010 at 11:15 am
It IS up to you- if you are going to release something after the primary that definitely proves that you are telling the truth (love notes, photos), please let the public know NOW. If not, then just be quiet and stop making S.C. the laughing stock of the nation. Not that you are the only one giving our state that rep, but you know what I mean….Put up today or shut up for good!! Thank you
By disgusted June 7, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Here is where my thinking is going and I find it sad. I have never been a huge fan of Folks as I disagree with his views on public education, BUT I do believe he and Haley had an affair.
Now, and this is the scary part, I wonder if he and she did not plan this whole charade to get Haley elected. I mean, people have short memeories, and Fits seems to have nine lives anyway. This whole thing is beginnning to smell fishy to me. :(
Fits has dangled a little tidbit here and there with the latest messages released to whom? I am just feeling major disillusionment.
By Alec June 7, 2010 at 1:20 pm
It is so obvious that Folks and Haley are in cahoots. This was going to come out from a reputable source, so they beautifully got it out in a way that hasn’t damaged her. This way the reputable journalists can’t come out with it, and Folks gets dismissed. It is so obvious to be ridiculous. Folks will never put out anything that might actually damage Haley. What a bunch of dupes.
By JeffagainstSpratt June 7, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Will,
You do realize that late night calls made between an employer and employee in this field are not exactly “news”. None of the info you have presented would even be addmisable in a court of law, and even if it was, would you like me to forge the text message conversations? I can, its real real real simple..
Go crawl back into the hole in the wall that you came from. Your past makes you damaged goods..
By Be A Man June 7, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Just had to post . . . Captain Douche bag Folks still haven’t shown any real evidence and the question remains – why did you start this shit storm? And don’t give us that crap about “someone else was going to break this” not one else gave a shit!
You’re just like a little bar fly tease! No intent to deliver the goods, just a bunch of hot air!
By Whippersnapper June 7, 2010 at 3:02 pm
disgusted posted above (on June 7th, 2010 at 1:03 pm):
“Here is where my thinking is going and I find it sad. I have never been a huge fan of Folks as I disagree with his views on public education, BUT I do believe he and Haley had an affair.
Now, and this is the scary part, I wonder if he and she did not plan this whole charade to get Haley elected. I mean, people have short memeories, and Fits seems to have nine lives anyway. This whole thing is beginnning to smell fishy to me. :(
Fits has dangled a little tidbit here and there with the latest messages released to whom? I am just feeling major disillusionment.”
AND ARE YOU ALSO WONDERING WHETHER BOTH WILL FOLKS AND NIKKI HALEY ARE REPTILIAN SPACE ALIENS DISGUISED UNDER HUMAN SKIN. THAT’S EVERY BIT AS PLAUSIBLE AS YOUR STATED WONDERING. AND ALSO EVERY BIT AS LAUGHABLE TO NORMAL “RIGHT THINKING” PEOPLE.
By Scarlett June 7, 2010 at 4:00 pm
So where is the “breaking story” that Bauer passed a polygraph last night in Columbia?
By Ron Jones June 7, 2010 at 5:10 pm
All one need do is have a look at Will Folks, then have a look at Nikki Haley.
Even the most clueless of mullet-wearing yankee morons knows that women fvck like snipers. I.E. there’s always a reason…and if she’s going to chuck it all for some strange, you’d better have something she wants more than what she already has…
…Clearly, you don’t have anything for her.
Then, of course, there’s the little matter of this story getting no airplay at all…when we all know that if there was even a whiff of credibility every liberal hack on TV would be pushing it in an attempt to destroy Mrs. Haley.
*snort* chortle, choke, gasp, chuckle…..You’ve just jumped the shark.
By Greg Walton June 7, 2010 at 5:52 pm
“So where is the “breaking story” that Bauer passed a polygraph last night in Columbia?”
There are many good resons why polygraphs are inadmissible in a court of law, the best of them is that they are notoriously unreliable, another is that they are subjective to the interpretations and qualifications of the people giving the test. Polygraph reliability is described to be a ‘little better than chance’. Polygraphs might measure the level of anxiety, but almost anybody (except maybe professional liars or those who took the training or common anti-anxiety medicine to ‘beat the polygraph’) taking a test would have some level of anxiety. So, if Andre passed the test, which one of the above is he?
There are much better physiological methods than polygraphs to test for truthfulness, but none is 100% reliable. Polygraph tests are just as useless as filing frivolous political lawsuits as a ‘proof’ of someone’s guilt or innocence.
If we want to rely on polygraph, why don’t we subject everybody who runs for political office to polygraphs, why only the accusations of ‘physical relationships’ deserve such treatment? Wouldn’t we want to know if all our politicians are honest, or at least not completely corrupt, before we elect them? Lets make the test mandatory for all running for office, and then fire away.
By ceilidh10 June 7, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Tomorrow is only the primary.
It is a long time until November.
Much can happen, and is happening, to any nominee or candidate.
What are the good old boys going to do when the Gulf Stream brings the oil plumes and slime past our state, and ruins the coastal economies? will people come to Spoleto if the battery of covered in oil? Will they tan at Myrtle? How bout those expensive homes on the beach overlooking an oil slick? What about the shrimp festival at McClellanville? Think about it.
The person we elect will be dealing with these issues. Pick wisely.
By ceilidh10 June 7, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Tomorrow is only the primary.
It is a long time until November.
Much can happen, and is happening, to any nominee or candidate.
What are the good old boys going to do when the Gulf Stream brings the oil plumes and slime past our state, and ruins the coastal economies? Will people come to Spoleto if the battery of covered in oil? Will they tan at Myrtle? How bout those expensive homes on the beach overlooking an oil slick? What about the shrimp festival at McClellanville? Think about it.
Think of the unemployment figures.
The person we elect will be dealing with these issues. Pick wisely.
By Another Opinion June 7, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Great point, ceilidh10.
I think we need to consider too how other states & countries view SC’s political leadership. They won’t bring jobs here or invest in SC if this decadence, debauchery, sleeze, lying & scamming continues.
By Martha Washington June 8, 2010 at 1:20 am
Not voting for any of these people for Governor
By Chip June 8, 2010 at 3:49 am
The late Hunter S Thompson once wrote “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro”. As is my custom, I am again awake at 3:30 AM and am beginning yet another day of retirement from a SC State Agency that will almost certainly benefit by the removal of its Director as a result of a new executive administration. I had hoped to see a McMaster/Sheheen campaign and sadly all the indicators still continue to show that to be unlikely though the polls have as of yet to open. Thus, I can still hope. In Marine Corps boot camp I was once told by a Drill Instructor to “Wish in one hand and shit in the other then see which one fills up the fastest”. My POD today is to vote for McMaster then go donate blood (the Red Cross called and caught me during a weak moment and I have a rare blood type or so they tell me). From there I shall hop back on my Harley and tool around the back country roads of Clarendon County. Finally my rear end will be parked in front of the TV awaiting the results which seem very important to me now but may mean less as time passes. I sincerely hope all of the commentaries and their authors find their way to the polls as well. If nothing else, this entire debate may have the effect of generating greater electorate participation. I believe its still state law that no alcohol be sold on election day. I don’t drink but I hope that some of you do as it would at least provide an excuse for what you write. Then again, “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro”.
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By John June 9, 2010 at 1:46 am
The hubby must have a hard time with Nikki’s big teeth when she goes down on him!! I wonder if those other two fellas that got in bed with her were able to handle it ?