By FITSNews || Nine days after our founding editor acknowledged having an “inappropriate physical relationship” with S.C. Rep. Nikki Haley in the Spring of 2007, a second man has come forward claiming to have had improper relations with the Republican gubernatorial front-runner.
Larry C. Marchant, Jr. – a powerful Columbia lobbyist and the top campaign advisor to S.C. Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer – said he had a “one night stand” with Haley in June 2008 at a parental choice convention in Salt Lake City, Utah. Marchant was fired by Bauer’s campaign Wednesday shortly before coming forward with his revelation.
Haley’s expense reports confirm over $2,000 in reimbursements for the conference, which was put on by the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), a conservative policy group.
Marchant said he informed Bauer of the indiscretion a week ago.
Marchant and Haley – both of whom were married at the time of the alleged encounter – worked together closely in 2008 on Haley’s bid to win the chairmanship of the powerful House Labor, Commerce and Industry (LCI) Committee. Haley ultimately bowed out of that contest to pursue her guberantorial ambitions.
At a gubernatiornal debate in Charleston, S.C. Wednesday night Haley denied the claim and blamed Bauer for the allegation, saying his campaign had been “fishing the story” earlier in the week and only decided to fire Marchant when no one picked it up. Bauer denied having anything to do with personal allegations against Haley.
Interestingly enough, we’ve spoken with several sources who say that Marchant had been secretly providing Haley with inside information on Bauer’s campaign for several months – including the timing and content of television ads as well as Bauer’s overall strategy for the race. These sources say Bauer fired Marchant for disloyalty, not his
Marchant acknowledged that he had no proof of the encounter, and lawmakers who attended the conference two years ago tell FITS that they only observed Marchant and Haley in public settings.
“I cant’ say that it happened but I can’t say that it didn’t happen,” one House member told FITS.
Folks, on the other hand, has supported his allegation with some circumstantial evidence, including text messages that hint at a cover-up by the Haley campaign as well as phone logs showing dozens of late night calls between himself and Haley during the time they were romantically involved.
Those releases haven’t proven anything, but have lent credibility to his initial claim - and his motivation for making it.
Folks has released no new information this week, but told CNN Thursday morning that he had turned over a list of witnesses to his attorneys along with “all communication” from the relationship.
In addition to Haley and Bauer, U.S. Rep. Gresham Barrett and S.C. Attorney General Henry McMaster are also in the running for the Republican gubernatorial nomination.
GOP voters go to the polls Tuesday. If no candidate receives a simple majority of votes in that election, the top two finishers will face off against each other in a runoff election two weeks later.
By Andy June 3, 2010 at 8:32 am
One night stands at conferences like this are not uncommon and are usually related to the over consumption of alcohol.
By sclawboy June 3, 2010 at 8:37 am
Is she a tawaif or a chinaal?
By susie q June 3, 2010 at 8:39 am
If this is true about Marchant providing Haley camp with inside information about Bauer’s campaign. Then who is really involved in dirty politics? Looks like the Haley camp itself is deceptive. But they keep pointing fingers at every one else. I am tired of the “woe is me – I’m a victim of the “good ole’ boy” system”.
Truth always comes out. If she and the rest of these characters really care about our state – more so than their agenda then do the right thing and take this mess off the public stage.
By Jeff June 3, 2010 at 8:39 am
Plenty more information at http://www.palmstatepolitics.com on this issue
By AtTheAltarOfWill June 3, 2010 at 8:41 am
Will Haley confirm Marchant’s (teehee) “girth?”
By jim June 3, 2010 at 8:42 am
so Folks story had no substance and she stayed ahead in the polls after his bull crap lies.Enter man number two to lie kinda funny this guy was fired by Bauer yet he still makes a point to say he had sex with Nikki and help Bauer by doing this.
By poster June 3, 2010 at 8:44 am
Wow. Because Will and Larry really have dragged this out, I think Haley is now the victim. She will roll in the Primary
By Herding Cats June 3, 2010 at 8:45 am
hmmmm, her commercial says that she is a “woman who knows by the grace of God anything is possible.” Did she think that also by the Grace of God no one would know anything?
By Joe June 3, 2010 at 8:45 am
Folks has released no new information this week, but told CNN Thursday morning that he had turned over a list of witnesses to his attorneys along with “all communication” from the relationship.
Any direct communnication with Haley? Key is Direct!!
By Jimmy D Mint June 3, 2010 at 8:45 am
I gotta new name for our female canidate:
Hot-Crotch Hailey
LOL
By rwwllms June 3, 2010 at 8:47 am
*yawn*
Now y’all are making me sleepy with all these bedtime stories.
(yes, pun intended)
By joe June 3, 2010 at 8:50 am
^-^ agreed. I would go farther to say that one-night stands are “the point” of conventions like these. When I went to my first one, I was explicitly told that by my (at the time) mentor. I couldn’t believe that I had spent all that time growing up…only to find out that grown ups…act just like college kids! YAY!!!
By Mike June 3, 2010 at 8:54 am
I wonder if Larry Marchant will provide any physical descriptions or details which only someone that had sex with Nikki would know. Any moles, tattoos, scars, etc.
By yarrrrr June 3, 2010 at 8:54 am
Maybe he was leaking to Haley… but André Bauer’s body language last night was hilarious…
By Darling Nikki June 3, 2010 at 8:55 am
thank u 2 4 a funky time!
By R June 3, 2010 at 9:00 am
I have to confess. I cannot look myself in the mirror anymore. I lusted for Nikki in my heart, therefore I had an inappropriate relationship with my right hand.
By JoJo June 3, 2010 at 9:00 am
You are wise Andy! But there is a sadness to your wisdom. Does it still burn when you pee?
By dead agent caper June 3, 2010 at 9:03 am
This site went to the crapper in a hurry.
By shay June 3, 2010 at 9:03 am
Larry Marchant looks like an advertisement for Hair Club for Men.
By Jason June 3, 2010 at 9:07 am
Does writing about yourself in third person ever get tiring?
By jimb00b June 3, 2010 at 9:13 am
“She will cheat on her husband and risk her childrens family for small personal gain, but she would never do that to the taxpayers of south carolina”
No thanks Nikki
By spouses would not be so forgiving June 3, 2010 at 9:16 am
Confessions with no consequence lack credibility. It is hard to believe that of the three spouses involved not one has ran to the nearest domestic lawyer to bring an action for divorce. That said, there have also been no allegations or threats of bringing suit for defamation from Mrs. Haley which would also be ripe if the allegations are false. I fear this is only the anticlimax for this bombshell of a week. Foghorn Leghorn should be liking his chops, as he has the only campaign not tarnished by this incestuous web of politicos and philanderers,
By Army guy June 3, 2010 at 9:20 am
My guess is that Sick Willie will soon have enough blood money to buy John Edwards’ mansion in NC. When you move up there, good riddance.
By Max June 3, 2010 at 9:22 am
Where there is smoke there is fire! This is the second plume of smoke so far. I wouldn’t trust my child to someone who is an alleged child abuser even though they haven’t been proven to be one, so why would I entrust the state to her without knowing for sure that she is not just another typical lying politician. I don’t care if she did do it, that is between herself and her husband. I will care however if she publicly lied about being faithful. Once you lie to your constituents that trust is irrevocably broken.
By Joey June 3, 2010 at 9:24 am
A rat on Bauer’s campaign?! No way! I figured the chances of that happening were about as slim as him getting busted running 100+ on the interstate… oh, that has happened, hasn’t it?
This actually legitimizes the argument that Andre is the one paying Sic for coming out. Apparently, Andre wasn’t pleased with how Sic did it and has since realized that there are too few people in the public that believe Sic to make a difference in the polls so he had to get another claim. I guess this late in the game he didn’t have the time to leave his trenches and had to sacrifice one of his own. I’m sure they get paid well.
What’s interesting is that “one night stand” is a stronger declaration than “inappropriate physical relationship”. The former is commonly used to refer to a single SEXUAL encounter while the latter is much more vague and can be interpreted many different ways. Old Bill wanted to know what the definition of “is” is, so defining “inappropriate”, “physical”, and “relationship”, may take a little more work as there are different degrees of each. But “one night stand” is pretty straight-forward so maybe now we’ll be taking about a libel suit. Then again, no one has specifically said “I had sexual intercourse with SC GOP gubernatorial candidate Nikki Haley.” Until I hear someone say that (which would definitely be risking a libel suit) I will be backing Haley and her categorical denials.
By Scarlett June 3, 2010 at 9:26 am
There is absolutely no way this Marchant character had sex with Nikki Hailey. Larry Marchant doesn’t have sex with women. I listened to him talk for 15 seconds and figured that out. And has anyone ever seen a worse rug?
However, I bet Marchant’s “domestic partner” is totally pissed this morning!
By mike June 3, 2010 at 9:26 am
Several Sources huh Will? Would that be same douchebag trio Wes, Shealy, BJ? What other immature frat boys have your ear.
This is so cliche. Looks like Nikki is using sex to get secrets about opposing campaigns. You guys are pathetic.
By Just a good ole boy June 3, 2010 at 9:26 am
Nikki Haley is just Mark Sanford in a dress…
By eggaday June 3, 2010 at 9:29 am
Sanfraud in a skirt.
But my real comment is…. she’s a rake,
no…. she’s a shovel.
uhhuh… she’s a hoe.
By harris June 3, 2010 at 9:32 am
The Haley story is truly unprecedented in American politics.
Can anyone think of any female pol who, just days before an election, every been accused of such infedility by paid, promiscuous, male political consultants?
Either these allegations are true or Haley is the victim of the most viscious smear campaign in America.
I’m beginning to seriously suspect the latter.
By Brian O'Connor June 3, 2010 at 9:36 am
Bauer looked like a candidate caught with his hand in the cookie jar in last night’s debate. The lack of eye contact with the moderator or Haley (heck, he didn’t even look straight into the camera) makes ole Andre look guilty.
Check out the video: http://reddogreport.wordpress.com/2010/06/02/unbelieveable-nikki-haley-accused-of-having-another-affair/
Brian O’Connor
http://www.RedDogReport.com
@RedDogReport
By south mauldin June 3, 2010 at 9:40 am
I have believed Will all along and I cannot wait until Sheheen mops the floor with this floozy. Family values my ass. And it makes Palin look like shit as well.
By Ohhhh OK.. June 3, 2010 at 9:44 am
I’m with Scarlet…
Nikki will win the primary outright.
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By conservative woman June 3, 2010 at 9:51 am
I watched the video interview with Larry Marchant He sure looks and acts gay to me. Wait…isn’t that the rumor about Bauer, too? Maybe Bauer is not paying Marchant in money at all…hmmm.
Also,I’m not nearly as attractive as Nikki Haley and I know I couldn’t get drunk enough to sleep with a guy who looks like Marchant.
By Calhoun St. June 3, 2010 at 9:53 am
Whom to believe? Hmmmm.
Larry Marchant was arrested for DUI in December, and Sic Willie’s colorful personal history is well known.
Based on criminal records alone, Haley has a mantle of “credibility” that is glaringly absent among her accusers.
By Mike June 3, 2010 at 9:54 am
Listen to Marchant interview. Sounds pretty straight forward.
http://www.wltx.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=89658968001#/Larry+Marchant+-+Entire+Interview/89658968001
By JRavenel June 3, 2010 at 9:58 am
I’m in the tea party and ClubforGrowth. I’m all for Nikki next Tuesday. Bottom line is no more tax increase.
Nikki can sleep with whoever she wants and she still gets my vote so long as (1) she won’t increase my tax, and (2) she does not sleep with my husband or my daughter’s husband. WHATEVER she does with what inside her panty is her private business… no one else!
SO GO NIKKI.
By Just Another SC Voter June 3, 2010 at 10:00 am
Erick Erickson was right…
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/06/03/the-w-word-and-the-south-carolina-strategy/
Who knew that “ROLL CALL” and reform would be so threatening??!! Oh that’s right, I knew it and so did anyone else with half a brain. The “SC good ole boy” system is going down in flames and I love it.
Go Nikki Go! Give them hell and take no prisoners.
Nikki Haley for Governor.
By Recovering Lobbyist June 3, 2010 at 10:02 am
I shook Larry Marchant’s hand once. I have been washing my hands for hours now. How inappropriate of me.
By Tunes'n''News June 3, 2010 at 10:02 am
The politicians and political advisors (what a shady group that is) in this state are like a bunch of suburban middle schoolers. Not quite there mentally but unaware of that, and unable to make any sense of what their hormones do to them. Whipsering in each other’s ears about who likes who, who did what with who. Every campaign, everyone remixes their relationships until everuyone’s been with everyone in the clique and kows dirt about everyone else too.
Unfortunately, 20 billion of spending a year rides on what these self-centered and developmentally retarded folks do.
By Shelly Stone June 3, 2010 at 10:02 am
Now, Folks MUST release the text messages and phone records in full. I think he is waiting for $. The promise of advertising on a website that has the full dirty details on it? everyone will come to this site and thus explode his advertising?? possibility.
I think that maybe, kind of like a lottery winner, folks is getting his stuff in order, legalities in order, before coming forth with the winning “ticket”.
But, now that this man has come forth with yet another allegation, Folks should release the information. He has no proof and has basically hung himself by claiming the information. Releasing the texts and full phone records, emails too, would not only prove Haley is a liar, but will lend more credibility to this other allegation.
You started this Folks, time to end it with a full accounting of what happened. Although I do believe there are many women in power that rightfully deserve to be there. But there are some, like Nikki Haley and her bff Sarah Palin that get to the top not using their brains, but their bodies. Its a story as old as the hills.
Also, if this was a MAN running for Gov. and two women came forward with allegations of affairs, his poll numbers would tank and he would probably quit the race. People wouldn’t need proof. What a double standard!!!! As a man, Folks, you should stand up for all the hypocrisy and double standards out there and out this tramp for what she is, or what you say she is….
By Ttiger June 3, 2010 at 10:04 am
These are the people we want to lead our state? I find it hard to believe that Nikki is depending upon a woman who QUIT her job as the Gov. of Alaska for no good reason to be her biggest ally. Nobody seems to be making a big deal about this. We have candidates with numerous skeletons in their closets all saying they are the “true conservative” and “tea party” candidates. All running to segregate our schools even more. All running against Pres. Obama but none really giving any plans. If this is the best the SC repubs can march forward, then woe is SC.
By poutsos June 3, 2010 at 10:13 am
NOOKIE NIKKI NOOKIE NIKKI NOOKIE NIKKI
By Ratfishtim June 3, 2010 at 10:15 am
Now I understand why “Nikki” Haley was supported by Palin and Sanford. They all preach abstinence for everyone- but themselves.
When they get off the Appalachian Trail, look for the threesome on the Bridge to Nowhere (funny how Palin doesn’t talk about that anymore, not even in her book. Hmmmm).
By Kama Sutra June 3, 2010 at 10:16 am
LOL School Choice Conference
By Marlboro County Resident June 3, 2010 at 10:22 am
Hey Haley, can I get a “ride?”
By OhNoNotAgain June 3, 2010 at 10:22 am
Here’s where the whole deck of cards of denials comes falling apart.
Nikki Haley has said they are coming after her because she’s leading (true) and is a threat to the establishment (hogwash).
Mark Sanford has proved, absolutely, that a governor has no power in this state.
With the stimulus lawsuit, he got his pee pee slapped by the Supreme Court and he was told to go stand in the corner until he accepted the stimulus money as ordered by the General Assembly.
She’d have a bully pulpit only. How well did that work out for Sanford before he let his dick strip him of that (pun intended)?
The powers that be might want a more compliant person than she might turn out to be, but she’s no threat to anything in Columbia.
By seriously? June 3, 2010 at 10:29 am
A threat to the establishment? LMAO! I think some folks here are giving Haley way too much credit.
By Ikeonic June 3, 2010 at 10:35 am
Hey fellas.. how much money would it take for you to lie TO YOUR WIFE about sex you DIDN’T HAVE??? What are the odds two men would be on the take to lie to their wives about sex that never happened?
Nikki Haley says she’s a victim of a vast “good ole boy” conspiracy.
Hillary Clinton would be proud!
http://bit.ly/cIZSzZ
By Varga June 3, 2010 at 10:37 am
New political bumber sticker “Honk if you have not had sex with Nikki”
By Marty June 3, 2010 at 10:37 am
I continue to support Nikki and think she will win. But everyone else seems to get her nookie and I feel left out.
By WIS viewer June 3, 2010 at 10:38 am
WIS has 8 minutes of raw video where they intereviewed Larry Marchant. He pushes back on Judi Gatson pretty hard to ask some very detailed questions of Nikki Haley, none of which have been answered.
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12585294#
By Kama Sutra June 3, 2010 at 10:41 am
I wonder if Sanford and Kristin Maguire attended the 2008 parental choice convention in Salt Lake City, Utah? Sounds more like a wife swap convention.
By Just Another SC Voter June 3, 2010 at 10:44 am
By far the best video of the year…
http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2010/06/02/nikki-haley-guts-andre-bauer-on-live-television/
Golly Gee Willie, why wouldn’t you write a post about this? Nice avoidance there. Very telling indeed.
Enjoy peddling your smut while it last. You, your crew, and your corrupt ties will single handily (yes, pun intended) catapult Nikki Haley into the victory lane as a result of YOUR/THEIR inappropriate conduct. Karma’s a bitch.
Nikki Haley for Governor.
By Skidmarks June 3, 2010 at 10:46 am
Say, Red Dog, re. debate video.
Bauer does look like a fellow with his hand in the cookie jar. He also touched his left eye with his finger after being accused by Nikki of “fishing” the story.
Nikki looked up and to the left a lot. So, she doesn’t get a pass.
Thanks for posting the video segment.
BTW, I don’t see any grand conspiracy in any of this. Just some low-rent rendezvousing instantly regretted.
By Charlie June 3, 2010 at 10:48 am
May be true, OhNoNotAgain, but for my money the denials all fall apart because of Tim Pearson’s text messages, which he has confirmed sending to Folks. I think there’s all kinds of other shenanigans going on, but those messages only have one explanation: Pearson thought there was an affair. As he’s Haley’s campaign manager, she would have put him right if that were not the case.
What’s depressing to me is that the media are so scared of this story. Either they are too lazy to think this through or, I suspect, some of them have thought it through but are simply chicken. It’s no surprise that people in this comments section are defending Haley, because it’s a Republican board and she will have her supporters, even if all this is proven. But if you’re backing nobody or are Democrat-leaning, as plenty of high-profile journalists are in that pesky Liberal Media Elite, what the hell is stopping you from exposing this? It’s pointless me asking commenters here to question and justify Pearson’s rationale for those texts – but journalists should have been pressing him and Haley on it much more, and not stopped. They’re doing one of two things:
1. They’re just not thinking.
2. They’re thinking ‘Okay, she’s guilty. There must have been an affair because otherwise why the fuck would Pearson be writing all to Folks? It doesn’t make any sense to text a guy you think is making up a story to harm your candidate in a way that seems like you think he might be telling the truth. But… leave it to one side. Don’t think about that. There’s no hard evidence yet. Let someone else get that. Then report on it.’
It’s unbelievably lame. The story is just sitting there. If you repeatedly pressured Pearson on his completely illogical and hole-ridden lie that he sent the texts but was just trying to stop a false story getting out, and just kept doing that, the story would have been yours. Instead, you realize in your heads that his story makes no sense, you instinctively don’t believe it for a moment because it is just glaringly obvious that there can’t be another explanation, but because he gives the lamest rational imaginable you sit on the sidelines like you need a dress or a videotape to do your job. Major fail, mainstream media. Major, major fail.
By Jeff June 3, 2010 at 10:48 am
Larry Richter and Rod Shealy trying misdirection
http://palmstatepolitics.blogspot.com/2010/06/larry-richterrod-shealy-trying-little.html
By Paris Sailin June 3, 2010 at 10:49 am
I’m glad to see that most of the Rount-The-Clock Nikki apologists on here have moved into the “I don’t care who she slept with, I’m voting for her anyway” camp. Go with that. It will be a real winner for ya’. (wink)
One question.
What ever happened to the “it’s not the sex, it’s the lying” meme that such as Henry Hyde, Dan Burton, and Newt Gingrich and other Republicrites were pushing during the Clinton-Lewinsky affair?
Just wondering.
I guess today’s situational ethics meme for the Gee Oh Peebaggers is “Consensual Sex okay, Unfaithfulness okay, Public Embarrassment okay, Lying okay – Vote Frisky Haley for Governor!”
Being from Indiana, thank you Nikki, Will, Larry, Other Mark, and numerous helpful South Carolina Republicans for taking Mark Souder off the top of the list of political embarrassments to state voters.
By Scarlett June 3, 2010 at 10:51 am
Ohhhh OK….
{High Five} Can you even believe that someone would be stupid enough to put Larry Marchant out there as a “hunka, hunka, burnin’ Love”?
Marchant looks, talks and acts like some old Queen. I’m not certain that I believe that Haley is “chaste and pure” but I’m almost positive that Marchant does not have sex with women. They say he’s married but its gotta be to a tranny.
The way I see it Bauer has REALLY shot himself in the foot — both feet.
1) This is a stupid stunt. Period. And I think I know now why Bauer refuses to pay for any significant campaign help — he has to dole those dollars out to people like Marchant.
2) If Bauer wants to squelch the whole “gay thing”, then putting Larry Marchant out there selling this “story” to the media is not the way to do it.
To tell you the truth, I am totally dumbfounded that ANYONE would think this would be a good move.
By Paris Sailin June 3, 2010 at 10:51 am
“Rount?”
Note to self: Stop typing with forehead.
By Just Another SC Voter June 3, 2010 at 10:52 am
By far the best video of the year…
http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2010/06/02/nikki-haley-guts-andre-bauer-on-live-television/
Golly Gee Willie, why wouldn’t you write a post about this? Nice avoidance there. Very telling indeed.
Enjoy peddling your smut while it last. You, your crew, and your corrupt ties will single handily catapult Nikki Haley into the victory lane as a result of YOUR/THEIR inappropriate conduct. Karma’s a bitch.
Nikki Haley for Governor.
By bobby s June 3, 2010 at 10:53 am
Let’s not forget what’s NOT being discussed here (at least lately), that being Andre’s “lifestyle”….
Wayda’ keep people distracted Andre.
By Licki Nikki June 3, 2010 at 10:56 am
Assume for a second it’s true…and Haley’s husband and Marchant’s pregnant wife and Folks’ parole officer are all OK with it, then good for them.
So either accept it or not, it’s time for everyone to get on the Nikki lovetrain and ride it all the way to the Governor’s mansion or else we’ll have a Spendocrat as Governor. Is that what you all want? Because none of the other three can beat Obama-Suckoff Shehaan or even Tax-Cigarettes-And-Spend-On-Bad-Schools-And-Worse-Teachers Rex. If Ford would spit out the marbles before he talked, his call for video poker would be a threat too.
I just wish Nikki would adopt some of Ford’s platform.
By libertarian June 3, 2010 at 11:01 am
Now we have 2 accusers and still no proof? Wow.
And just why did Bauer wait an entire week after Marchant told him about this before he shitcanned Marchant? Surely he didn’t want to let the sic willie nonsense die down and then brew up another unproven allegation would he? Pretty sad.
Even sadder is the fact that Bauer, McMaster, and Barrett have no platform, no ideas, and no trust from the public that they can even remotely do a plausible job as governor. And for those who say the governor just has a bully pulpit and the General Assembly runs things….yes that is somewhat true but many of the good ol’ boys in the legislature won’t be returning this November or in November 2012.
By Charlie June 3, 2010 at 11:07 am
Unless you’re a maniacal Haley supporter, it is pretty hard to believe that Marchant is lying in this interview:
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12585294#
Either that or he deserves an Oscar.
By ChuckinSC June 3, 2010 at 11:07 am
Marty, you really made me laugh…. “I continue to support Nikki and think she will win. But everyone else seems to get her nookie and I feel left out.”
By Chris June 3, 2010 at 11:14 am
Will, does it make you mad she was boning another guy?
By William June 3, 2010 at 11:15 am
You’re showing your true colors. That’s the problem with posting under multiple names. Get therapy. It will help you. The only people who use the words “old queen” are, well, old queens. Guess it takes one to know one. Come out of the closet, Scarlett, Paris, Not Sayin, etc.
By IOP girl June 3, 2010 at 11:15 am
I don’t give a damn if she had an affair or not. I just want to know if she is conservative enough and will she make the right votes. Will she be a Republican? If she can do that I don’t care who she sleeps with. My only advice to her would be to just punch Folks but don’t let enybody see her do it. If the man is stupid enough to take that to the press it won’t take much to make the population of SC laugh until it cries. A man who complains about being bitch slapped or punched by a lady in SC is just going to be laughed at by about 95% of the state. The rest of them don’t count anyway.
By Libb June 3, 2010 at 11:17 am
Nikki’s “judgement” in men is enough for me not to cast a vote for her.
By Paris Sailin June 3, 2010 at 11:18 am
Do any of you Gee Oh Peebaggers’ Irony Meters go off when you make or see all of these postings from your ilk that castigate Folks for making allegations about Nikki’s sexual behavior “with no proof” (putting aside the text messages, phone records, Haley camp lies, similar charge from Marchant, etc.) -
Yet, you are willing and anxious to pronounce Larry Marchant as gay because he “looks” gay to you?
Breathtaking. Truly.
By Mike Traynor June 3, 2010 at 11:23 am
Nikki did it. While I know the proof is all circumstantial, the bottom line is that–even her defenders know she did it.
Now, I don’t mind my politicians going in for a little sex–Bill Clinton seemed capable of handling his women and the country just fine. But Clinton never claimed to be a saint.
Haley is slime–liar, cheating, daughter of a bitch.
By Ohhhh OK.. June 3, 2010 at 11:34 am
Scarlett,
(Hi-5 back at cha)
That guy might not suk one, but he’ll roll it around in his mouth for awhile…
lol
By stimulus June 3, 2010 at 11:44 am
Larry aint lying, if he is then i will back him in the World Series of Poker.
By libertarian June 3, 2010 at 11:46 am
Charlie, you, Paris and the other alter-egos seem to underestimate the ability of people, especially those in politics, to lie and lie well.
By dan June 3, 2010 at 11:48 am
Can I add one thing about this picture: look at Nikki’s butt! It looks pretty good to me. If I were one of her consultants, I would suggest a thong. Although the panties line does accentuate the curve and leave lots to the imagination.
By Synthetic June 3, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Someone above was right with the double standard. I have a friend whose X admitted to six cases of adultery – same hood as Haley. In Family Court, if a man had one case of adultery, he would be lucky to see his kids every other weekend. But that is not the case for women. This guy’s X got 50% custody and the GAL noted that she did not think that he would get over it. She was doing neighbors, Golds Gym, docs of various nationalities, ushers and ministers – it did not matter – but in the eyes of her friends, they all still believe that she was a Christian and he was a wife abuser (the cops would not press charges against her for trying to file false physical abuse charges. But if the shoe would have been on the other foot …. Must have some strange stuff in the water in Haley’s hood…..
By Synthetic June 3, 2010 at 12:11 pm
libertarian – you also need to understand to not underestimate the ability of women to lie and manipulate at a far greater level than men.
By Paris Sailin June 3, 2010 at 12:20 pm
libertarian
You wouldn’t be accusing Charlie, and me, et all of being the same person along with our other “alter-egos” without any proof, now would ya’? (wink) That would be wrong to do such a thing, wouldn’t you agree?
What is the deal with that anyway? We’re not the same person posting under different names. Aren’t you embarrassed to post such a blatant whatever-it-is (I really don’t get it, seriously) right in front of the guy (Will) who has our separate URL’s and e-mail addresses and can see what idiots his fellow right-wingers like you are?
By Just call me Ava June 3, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Can someone tell me what exactly constitutes “evidence”? Videotape? Photos? Perhaps I’m woefully behind the times but I’d be at a complete loss to come up with either photographic or videotape evidence of my romantic involvements. Cards–yep, gotta a few of those, but I’ve deleted emails from old boyfriends because well, they’re old boyfriends–past history. Phone records would surely show time logged in the wee hours to bf’s though, you know, the very evidence that the Nikkistas claim isn’t good enough for them?
BTW–when did we move away from the meme that “character counts” and Bill Clinton had to be impeached immediately because he lied about sex to “Who cares if Nikki screwed the entire state assembly”? I must have missed the memo on that polar shift in logic.
By countryboy June 3, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Thanks for posting the WIS story on Haley & Marchant (I don’t get Columbia TV up here in Chesterfield County). In watching the Bauer/Haley exchange IMO he is lying and she is not. In watching the Marchant interview, IMO he is a closet gay regardless of his marital status. Hell, he talks “sweeter” than Andre.
By yarrrrr June 3, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Blah… I know he’s lieing… the first question he was asked was “What happened today”… and he gets a weird look on his face and asked “what specifically”… it’s ridiculous….
By misstate June 3, 2010 at 12:45 pm
you are an idiot
“Folks has released no new information this week, but told CNN Thursday morning that he had turned over a list of witnesses to his attorneys along with “all communication” from the relationship.”
for what purpose? so they can get their rocks off?
there is no pending litigation so why all the cloak and dagger
release them here
i used to enjoy reading you, but boy you have gone loco on this one….or shown your true mental state
and i believe it happened, just don’t understand why you couch these articles the way you do
By Mab June 3, 2010 at 12:57 pm
I knew there had to be others. This is the only way a woman can rise to the top (pun intended) in Bubba’s little corner of the world.
She was smart but not smart enough; *sometimes* Bubba just likes to set them up only to knock them down. It is a sport.
Sic One is vindicated!
~Hallelujah~
By Soft Sigh from Hell June 3, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Has anyone checked Dick Harpootlian to make sure he is not in laughter-induced apoplexy?
Wouldn’t you love to hear his or Alex Sanders or Jean Toal’s private takes on all this? The first two more for their senses of humor, Harpootlian’s being like an explosives-filled harpoon.
By Jack June 3, 2010 at 1:15 pm
I had an affair with Nikki Haley!
(buy the t-shirt at: http://www.zazzle.com/i_had_an_affair_with_nikki_haley_tshirt-235986816384718309)
By Balsak Tee Baghar June 3, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Did you see that debates?
Nikki turned Andre into a Slushie at the Kwiki-Mart!
Hah, hah, hah!
Obviously, the god and goddesses are with Nikki!
She could now pull a dead young boy from her rectums and still win the election!
Some great fabulosity is happening in our state, my friends!
I am cooking a pot of curry now in celebration! The whole house is smelling it!
The lesson for Andre is never to mess with strong heterosexuals — especially women!
What a world, what a beautiful universe this is!
Palin-Haley 2012!
I can see India from my house!
By Just Another SC Voter June 3, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Nikki Haley’s voting record:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=47879
Andre Bauer’s voting record:
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=11913
Hmmm.. his record is missing. Imagine that??!! No wonder he’s against ROLL CALL! Repeat after me people.. H3047!!!
http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess118_2009-2010/bills/3047.htm
Take notice who pushed it into what specific committee. Oh no.. they “the good ole boys” can’t allow the good people of SC see how the officials are voting or spending our money. Like I have said before, Will Folks and cohorts are counting on YOU remaining stupid and gullible. The fabricated scandal is a lie and nothing but a distraction. In Will Folks’s own words…” The problem is that any time you have a largely uninformed and uneducated electorate, that kind of lowest common denominator mudslinging can be effective.”
By Conrad June 3, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Note to Dan:
Well said! She’s got a beautiful bod and there is no reason not to dress attractively. Sarah Palin did the same thing, only Sarah wore $2,000 titanium eyeglasses.
By MBAcapitalist June 3, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Um, I think the first poster had it right…”One night stands at conferences like this are not uncommon and are usually related to the over consumption of alcohol.”
I’m pretty sure that’s what happened. Haley’s probably addicted to power, and it seems the lobbyist is a little hotter than her husband whose a non-ambitious state employee.
Hell, if I got drunk at a conference with Haley, who knows what!
By clicks willie June 3, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Doesn’t this mean that Merchant fucked Folks?
By well well well June 3, 2010 at 1:38 pm
re: just another sc voter
andre only votes to break ties I think…may have something to do with his not being listed
By tup June 3, 2010 at 1:56 pm
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=12585294#
watch the longer version of this interview. he gets grilled by some hack reporter, and stands his ground. he asks, rightly, why aren’t reporters asking nikki or her campaign these questions:
was she with larry marchant at a conference in slc on june 14th, 2008?
did she stay at the marriott in slc on the same date?
did she go out to dinner with larry on the same night?
did she go to two separate bars for drinks / dancing after dinner?
did she return to the hotel on the same night?
the burden of proof is not with larry and will. they are NOT running for public office. if she is clean, she should provide phone records. if she is clean she should provide details to above questions.
she is stonewalling. transparency, my ass. she’s a fraud.
By tup June 3, 2010 at 2:01 pm
at the very least, she has demonstrated, at least twice, very, very, very poor judgement in conducting herself, both with the late night phone calls as a married woman with willie, and now with the drinking and cavorting with larry while out of town.
if she did either of them, she’s a bald-faced liar. if she didn’t do either of them, she hasn’t the moral compass, values or good judgement to govern.
By Scarlett June 3, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Apparently this is all breaking down to we have the choice of:
1) An accused road whore
2) An immature weasel, who’s not smart enough to realize that if he had been ahead in the polls, Marchant would have come out of the closet (being paid by “they”) to claim he was “the gay lover”. Psstttt….Andre, “they” don’t want you either, you are just a tool.
3) A guy who still thinks GWB is Pres and continues to apologize for it.
4) A guy who has forgotten what office he’s running for, BUT someone is trying to kill him.
WOW, Just WOW! Sorry, but I’m going to have to vote for the accused road whore and then pull for Sheheen to trounce her in Nov. Amazing how everyone seemed to “know all about her” but the integrity, committment and family values didn’t become a problem until she jumped ahead in the polls. Yeah, I don’t think she is pure by any stretch of the imagination, but “they” have backed us into a corner and are making us choose the lesser of the evils.
Honestly I truly hope that these men DID have relations with Haley, its a lot easier to stomach than the alternative — the “they” are trying to control the outcome by these kinds of tactics. These GOP people in this state have no room to talk about Obama and his Chicago Mafia, that’s for sure.
By Balsak Tee Baghar June 3, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Henry McMasterbate, show him the gate!
Gresham Barrett couldn’t snare it!
Andre Bauer is a toasted flower!
Oh, fabulous joy!
Believe me, people of South Carolina! Nikki will be not only your first woman governor but also your first goddess!
Sikh and ye shall find!
Palin-Haley 2012!
I can see India from my house!
By roofus June 3, 2010 at 2:07 pm
When I heard about the initial claim of infidelity, I was somewhat perplexed and was dead-set on not voting for Haley.
Now, I’m thinking about voting for Mrs. Haley.
Reason being–why would a smart person (assuming they had such extra-marital baggage)knowingly put their family through this vivisection by the media just to become ‘gubnor?
By Just Another SC Voter June 3, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Well Well Well,
You are a correct. It is also correct that Bauer pushed the bill to the judiciary committee chaired by Larry Martin with Jake Knotts and Robert Ford as members. Martin and Knotts are against the bill.
Btw… It’s nice to see someone paying attention and show interest to the actual issues instead of pandering this scandal BS.
By ceilidh10 June 3, 2010 at 2:16 pm
my my my………what a web of lies we weave. This only confirms Wills’s story. I knew Will was right.
How do you not iron these details out before running for office?
How stupid !
This woman is not fit to be governor.
Time for a Democrat?? anyone …out…there…..listening?? had enuff GOP sleaze? This will help Sheheen.
By Paris Sailin June 3, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Just call me Ava
Will Folks has released what is called “circumstantial evidence” of his allegations. Haley apologists on here are loath to call it evidence, but evidence it is. Anything physical (phone records, text messages, e-mails) that can be third-party verified, is evidence. Circumstantial evidence is evidence that supports ones allegations, but does not necessarily by itself constitute “proof.” Enough circumstantial evidence however, can indeed add up to proof as required by law (preponderance of the evidence is only required test in some cases), and many felons are sitting in prison based on the preponderance of such circumstantial evidence.
Contrary to what some on here think they know, circumstantial evidence is not “lesser” evidence. In fact, the phone records and text messages that Folks submitted would be certainly sufficient in any divorce proceeding to allow a judge to rule for infidelity or alienation of affection.
Larry Marchant’s allegation, lacking corroboration with circumstantial or physical evidence (a stained blue dress, for example) would be classified as “hearsay.” It is not as strong, but it is certainly also admissible in court under certain circumstances. It would be admissible in this case if it got to court (if Folks was a defendant in a libel suit). If Folks were suing Haley for some reason, it would likely not be admissible.
Also, although you erased your e-mails, they are not erased from your hard drive (unless you take them to someone to have your hard drive “scrubbed”) – so all the evidence of your past e-mail affairs are still on there. Be warned (if necessary LOL).
If Will Folks releases some e-mails with love-talk between Nikki and Will, this will also constitute evidence. It will be called the “smoking gun” and Haley will likely have to withdraw in humiliation, but the funny thing about that is, technically, it is still circumstantial evidence. Again, not “lesser” evidence as some think.
Hope that helps.
By more crap June 3, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Breaking news: the tigernet reports Clemson defensive tackle Jamie Cumbie was released from the team for also having inappropriate realtions with Nikki Hayley
By well well well June 3, 2010 at 3:12 pm
re : just another sc voter
appreciate it
By Paris Sailin June 3, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Just Another SC Voter
I understand you wanting to steer the conversation away from your preferred candidate being shown more everyday to be an unfaithful, lying ho-muffin, but Round-The-Clock Nikki put herself in this position by lying to everyone and then trying to cover things up as the truth slowly dribbles out. Now you are trying to help her kick the can down the road until she has the nomination secured.
As a supporter of the Democrat in this race, I hope you succeed in doing just that.
Thank you for your help.
But here’s to the truth of the matter coming to light sooner rather than later. I know that’s what you favor as well, don’t you? I mean, right after hoping everyone just completely ignores this stuff like you are trying to do.
If these allegations against Haley prove to be false, or they can’t be substantiated by more than text message records, phone records, like testimony, demonstrable lies by Haley and her campaign, in other words, by something more than is already out there – I will personally apologize to you and her supporters on here.
Seriously.
I don’t think I’m going to have to apologize on here, but I’ve been proven wrong before, and I always admit it when I am. Hard to believe, I know.
You?
By ceilidh10 June 3, 2010 at 3:14 pm
and where is Haley’s Comment?
By dan June 3, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Seriously, look at her butt! I take back what I said about suggesting a thong. I love the way her panties ride the curves of her butt – start from the hip and make that awesome V shape in the back. I’d love to be in a hotel room with her.
By Embarrassed for SC June 3, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Wow, and all this time I thought Haley was only figuratively in bed with the anti-public school lobby.
By seriously? June 3, 2010 at 3:31 pm
dan – only if u put a bag over her head.
By Charlie June 3, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Why, seriously? – she’s a very attractive woman. Her eyes are a little scarily large, her teeth a little too gleaming, and she’s a hypocritical lying politican who is brazenly trying to claim the moral high ground get elected to public office on a platform of family values and Christian conservatism while having been unfaithful to her husband, but hey… that’s what conferences are for, right? ;)
By thesushi June 3, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Charlie, noted you’re a reporter. Here’s my question. Davenport’s source obviously hasn’t changed between Folks and Marchant. And if Folks’ outing source is credible enough for Davenport, who is the ringmaster in this circus, in your belief?
It has to be a higher-up, and likely a consistent source for a story with this much damage-potential. I mean, if I called you up, it’d be filtered out. But Davenport wouldn’t have bit without some sense of “knowledge”, which to me says advisor-capacity, or standing politician.
thoughts? And if anyone else has been thinking of this…
By Fiscal Conservative June 3, 2010 at 3:44 pm
QUICK, before the election – Can we just have the list of lobbyist, bloggers, and legislators that Nikki didn’t do? REALLY PEOPLE, does she just have a thing for Bauer operatives? Good looking, educated, sensible chics who “step out” on their husband most always find someone richer, more powerful and handsome than their current husband.
By most-excellent wife babe June 3, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Vote for the candidate who can beat Sheheen.
By MBAcapitalist June 3, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Dan, I second that idea!
By Jack June 3, 2010 at 3:59 pm
Oops, sorry, earlier link didnt work
http://www.zazzle.com/i_had_an_affair_with_nikki_haley_tshirt-235986816384718309
By Jackson Browne June 3, 2010 at 4:01 pm
I’m with Dan, she is sexy as hell especially in the pic showing the french-cut lines. Throw in all the talk about her alleged promiscuity and she sounds like the kind of gal I’d like to get to know.
By Charlie June 3, 2010 at 4:08 pm
thesushi, I really don’t know enough about SC politics to post who might have been behind these allegations coming out. I don’t think it’s mutually exclusive, of course, that a lot of old boys want Haley out of the way and will stop at nothing to get her out of the way, and that she has slept around. Finding proof she’s slept around and making that stick is pretty tough, though, which is why Tim Pearson replied to Will Folks the way he did. Effectively ‘Look, they know she sleeps around, I know it, you clearly know it as you slepy with her – and they desperately want to get it out there. But how are they going to do that without a tape or a video or a photo or something? They’ve been trying for a year. They want us to jump. We just stonewall it and claim BS as hard as we can. If they do prove it, okay, game over. But I think that is going to be tough.’
That’s the Haley camp’s strategy.
As a reporter, my instincts are torn on Marchant. On paper, the ploy is so obvious: he was a paid consultant to an opponent, so it seems an easy bet that Bauer wanted to pile on the pressure, as many have suggested, and get some smoke out there. Get Machant to claim a one-night stand, fire the guy, and watch the smoke spread. Bauer is a sleazeball, and no doubt Marchant is as well. But wow, he must be really amazing, because in that eight minute interview he really does not look like he’s lying at all. And with a six-month-pregant wife? He also notably didn’t show outrage and anger and call her a hypocrite, and so on – he actually barely attacked Haley, as you’d expect if it were a ploy. Part of me thinks I’m being very naive and it’s a clever ploy – part of me thinks he’s a very sad man who actually thinks he’s doing the right thing and really did have a one-night stand with her.
But Marchant is a sideshow. Haley is a real piece of work, because the Pearson texts show very clearly he knew of an affair with Folks, which really means there must have been one to my mind. They are discussing it like it is common knowledge, and Pearson is sanguine. The balls of Pearson to claim with a straight face that those texts were normal campaign manager stuff to stop a fake story is incredible, but nothing compared to Haley confronting Bauer in the debate. That’s really going for broke, and she hardly flinched. I’ll be fascinated to see how it plays out, because I think we’re dealing with at least one sociopathic liar here (Haley), and no doubt several.
To answer your question, though, as a reporter I wouldn’t be focussing that much on who tried to get the story out or wants to smear Haley. I’d be focussing my pressure on the real story, which is a family values Bible-bashing Republican woman backed by Palin insisting she’s morally correct when the evidence shows she’s a hypocritical liar. I’d be hammering her campaign repeatedly with questions about how precisely Pearson’s texts could be about a fake story – why didn’t you just sit back, wait, and sue, in that case; didn’t you think it weird Folks was worried? etc – and doing so persistently, and mocking them persistently in editorials showing why they are lying until they cave. It’s an obvious lie, and has sat unchallenged for days. It’s the key to the whole story, and the media are just too dumb to see it. There is no plausible explanation for Pearson’s texts other than that Haley had an inappropriate sexual relationship with Folks.
Who put the pressure on that to come out is a secondary story, and one I’d work on once I’d cracked the first. And believe me, if I worked on an SC paper, I would have cracked it by now.
By Charlie June 3, 2010 at 4:24 pm
I meant ‘posit’, not ‘post’. :)
By Balsak Tee Baghar June 3, 2010 at 4:24 pm
Nikki,
You light up my lifes.
I would eat a cow for you and suffer eternal chaos and non-bliss for one single night with you.
You are hotter than my Uncle Ravi’s chili paste — and he worked for decades to attain that level of vegetable-based fire.
I would happily give up my executive position for the wages of a customer service representative in Mumbai for one taste of your favors and flavors.
Sarah Palin is from cold north Alaska.
You are from the hot Southern hemisphere.
Together you are the perfect combination . . . like blazing curry and cool yoghurt!
Palin-Haley 2012!
I can see India from my house!
By Jack June 3, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Ok, time for me to offer my intellectual appraisal. First, if Nikki had a dozen affairs, that’s between her and her husband and her maker. Apparently she’s not engaged in one now, which may or may not matter if she was.
The bottom line to the whole discussion is that the “confessions” by these cowardly men were simply to derail her campaign or to save their own bacon–just two more reason to vote for one who may be able to take on our “good ‘ol boy” establishment. I don’t care if Nikki has love slaves tied up in her basement, if she makes the likes of our milquetoast frat boys nervous, then I think its good reason to elect her.
By Scarlett June 3, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Balsak Tee Baghar: I don’t know who the freak you are, but you crack me up, you should do stand-up comedy. You’ve got to be patterning your schtick off that Indian dude on “Big Bang Theory”.
Jack: If Nikki has love slaves chained up in her basement, I’m jealous! Where does one find these “love slaves”? Apparently the lobbyists at the State House would be a good place to start? But I like mine MANLY….would bloggers and reporters be a better hunting grounds?
By Charlie June 3, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Here are the questions I would ask Tim Pearson, Nikki Haley’s campaign manager, if I were working on this as a reporter:
Mr Pearson, as you know, Will Folks has published a series of text messages on his blog purporting to be between several players in South Carolina politics, including you and him. You confirmed to CNN earlier that you did indeed send the messages to him he quotes you as sending, but claimed that they did not prove any relationship between Nikki Haley and Will Folks. You went on to tell CNN that you felt Folks had an ‘overactive imagination’ that had ‘gone into overdrive’ and explained that the texts were simply a result of the normal poltical atmosphere: ‘South Carolina politics is full of rumors and innuendo, and of course our campaign did everything in our power to prevent false rumors about Nikki from airing out in the media as they now have. Every campaign would have done exactly the same thing. As always, Nikki is determined to keep this campaign focused on the people and issues that matter.’
If your text messages to Will Folks were about trying to prevent false rumors about Nikki Haley from airing, presumably that means you knew they were false. How so?
(Pearson will say Haley told him.)
In that case, didn’t you think it strange that Will Folks was worried about this rumor, as he clearly was? Surely he would also know it was false, as it claimed he and Nikki Haley had slept together?
Why not just let the rumor come out? As there could be no proof of it if it were false, you could simply demand evidence for the allegation. You could sue if that evidence were not provided.
If you thought the rumor was false, why did you ask Will Folks ‘Can you fuck donehue up?’ What did you mean by that?
What did you mean by ‘My initial thought is if it aint from you or nh then its a tough sell’? How would it ever emanate from either of them, if it was a false rumor! And again, if you knew it were false, why were you and Will Folks even discussing it?
Why did you text Folks to say ‘I think we both deny it.’ What other option would there be if it were false – admit it? Why did you text Folks to say ‘I think an affadavit is something we can beat down. Legally and politically.’
Why did you text Folks to say ‘I’m telling you man, we keep this under wraps and nh is going to win’? Why would a false allegation endanger Haley’s chances of winning, when it could be easily exposed as false by simply demanding evidence for it? Would you respond to any allegation in your candidate in that way? Why does ‘this’ refer to in the phrase ‘we keep this under wraps’? The false story?
I would badger Haley’s campaign for answers to these questions every hour until they caved. If they refused to answer, I would point out all these things in a series of editorials, and keep calling them, until they caved. I’d have done it a few days ago, but it could still be done.
By thesushi June 3, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Cheers, Charlie. I just have this odd feeling that the key to the first story is really who was leaking this stuff in the first place. After all, Erickson pegs Bauer, because his source is awfully familiar with Marchant already (hence Davenport’s story that he couldn’t get with Folks until after the fact).
And if Erickson had pegged Bauer (and claimed he knew, while it’s pretty obvious he had no clue and was just parroting his source), then what’s left but the conspiracy story (pick one of twenty)? And as everyone’s a political insider in this amazing soap opera, I find it amazing that the only “plausible” solution (at least to some on the board) is a weaving conspiracy that only Marchant, Folks, and Bauer can be a part of.
No mention at all about the other PR machine at work. It’s as if Haley is still afforded the doubt after Pearson confirms the texts. I called this in my view on the massive response of national figures, but the text messages should’ve convinced any investigative individual immediately.
The phone calls and texts are a perfect avenue to pursue, like here in Michigan, where no fault on Mayor Kilpatrick would’ve been discovered had it not been for enterprising journalists following the same “outrageous and false” claims.
As for Marchant, it’s got to be damage control before the other shoe drops. If CNN does have the witness lists, phone records, and texts, oh my.
By Just Another SC Voter June 3, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Paris Sailin, it’s simple and I don’t need a novel to post my opinions. I don’t believe the scandal and you do. In fact, I believe it’s an outrageous lie purposely played out to keep the “good ole boys” in power. As you stated, YOU wish for a democrat as governor. Btw Whatever happens, Good luck with that…lol. If you haven’t noticed, it is a RED state. That in itself explains your motivations and why you continue to support such crap-taskic lies. We will see who’s right and wrong. So far, you’ve got nothing but innuendo and hearsay. Nothing but good blogger fodder.
By Jack June 3, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Charlie, texts, emails–all of that kind of thing can be fabricated very easily. I know–I have done it for clients. Having worked for a paper you should know that.
By thesushi June 3, 2010 at 4:58 pm
SCVoter, what I fear is that Haley is still the best choice in the field. And I believe Will. That’s the problem. All the rhetoric about truth, and the only individual who carries a modicum of the process (people can change, even with affairs) is the one that I think is lying through her teeth.
No one, however, does that for individuals who deny and are found out in the end. Especially when text messages exist.
By Charlie June 3, 2010 at 5:02 pm
thesushi, I see youäre a journalist, though it’s a shame you’re in the wrong state. Closer than me, though. :)
‘It’s as if Haley is still afforded the doubt after Pearson confirms the texts. … the text messages should’ve convinced any investigative individual immediately.’
Indeed! Your colleagues seem absolutely shit-scared of pursuing a story themselves. Pearson gave the weakest rationale ever for those texts. He couldn’t deny they were real, because then Folks would have proved they were and the game was over. So he said yes, they’re real, but I was just reacting a a fake rumor. Reading the texts, that is really a laughable notion that no simpleton would believe. But the press just let it lie. I guess he didn’t allow any follow-ups, and there were some hints here and there (TPM, for example), but no major media outlet has pointed out the absurdity of it, or pursued it further, or mentioned it since.
I’m fascinated by politics, but it’s not what I write about. A few months ago, I discovered something related to cinema history that was pretty interesting. I wrote an article about it and sent it to several major papers. The article was absolutely publishable as it was, but I was freelance, not staff, so there was a higher hurdle to get over. I was familiar with it from being on the other side of that. But it was a good story, so I got a bit from a big paper who wanted to run it. But they had a couple of concerns. First of all, they had looked up my discovery, and could find no reference to it anywhere at all. Where had I found it out from? ‘I found it out myself!’ I answered. The concept seemed suspicious to them. The second concern was a request: could they rewrite the article, still paying me but byline someone else and interview me as the person who had discovered this? I reluctantly agreed. The reason they did this is that reporters today generally only report, ie they state what other have found out. It looks too weird in a newspaper to have a journalist discovering something! Where did they discover it, how, why were they looking? It’s not news. News is that Charlie Smith has discovered something. It’s symptomatic of a serious decline in journalism, and this story is similar to that. Reporters aren’t investigating this story. They’re waiting for stuff to be revealed, and then they will report what has been revealed.
In the meantime, the truth is lying there for any reporter worth their saly to run with. Become the reporter who uncovered it, who was persistent enough to keep going on it and not let go – the reporter who Anderson Cooper will eventually report on as being a ‘persistent blogger’ or something along those lines. As well as being what you got in this for, I suspect (judging from your blog), it would be a complete steal. Nobody else is doing anything.
By Charlie June 3, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Sorry for all the typos. Typing too fast.
thesushi, I’ve also been impressed by some of Haley’s speeches and comments in the last week or so, though my politics are a long way from hers. But if you accept she’s lying, as anyone now must, I think, look at just how brazenly she does it! The ’100% faithful in 13 years’ is pretty standard push-back. But in the debate with Bauer, she flatly states it’s untrue, then calls it sick politics, then aims an accusation at Bauer, and then essentially suggests he was responsible for the smear! That is quite extraordinary for someone who is lying through her teeth – she does it really astonishingly well. So I think it does just come back to: if she can lie that convincingly about this, what else is she lying about? I think she’s a tough as nails, borderline sociopath who has been leading a lie of a life – watch her ads where she talks about God – and I think that while she might have her head screwed on when it comes to policy (or could be playing it), she would be a major liability as governor because of her character. Which counts. She doesn’t practise as she preaches – and she preaches. I’d love to see her taken down and have to own up for this. I almost believe her every time she speaks, she’s that good.
Then I read the texts again.
By Paris Sailin June 3, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Jack
What ever happened to “It’s not about the sex, it’s the lying about it.”?
That was the GOP mantra in the mid-90s, and now it’s “inoperative?”
How is it “cowardly” to make an allegation of an affair, knowing that if it’s a false accusation, that you will be sued into oblivion. I don’t think Haley would have much trouble showing “material damage” do you?
The more the evidence comes out, the more Haley lies and stonewalls. This shows “consciousness of guilt” as the police would put it.
Here’s a tiny partial list of her lies:
1. I barely knew (Folks). – 700 + phone calls refutes this lie.
2. We (Haley campaign) were not in contact with Folks until after he published his allegations. – Text messages show that this is a lie, and also that Haley campaign was engaged in covering up something they knew to be true.
3. (Explaining the late night into early morning phone conversations with Will Folks, Haley said this was her typical work style. This is laughable, and she has not backed up her explanation with phone call evidence that this was so (where are the other worker bee late night phone calls?).
Again, it’s the lying about it. If she’s lying about all that, what else is she lying about to you and the other SC residents? And worst of all, she has built her campaign around her honesty, her morality, her family, her transparency. How does her history, her recent actions, and her ongoing lies play into those things?
And that’s not even considering the like testimony from Marchant.
She did this. It will come out. You need to get rid of her now, or the Democrats will do it after the primary.
By Charlie June 3, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Jack:
‘Charlie, texts, emails–all of that kind of thing can be fabricated very easily. I know–I have done it for clients. Having worked for a paper you should know that.’
Indeed, I do know it. But the Haley camp has admitted that all the texts and phone logs were real. Where the hell have you been?
By Margarita June 3, 2010 at 5:43 pm
I think it’s refreshing to see a Republican who can something besides “no”…Haley is the party of “hell yes!”
By Paris Sailin June 3, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Just Another SC Voter
You’re basically full of it. Whether it’s a lie or not is not a matter of “belief.” It’s a matter of evidence, and Folks has been producing evidence backing his allegation and Haley has responded with lies, stonewalling, and absurdities. You call it “working late” now, do you?
If Folks’ accusation is a lie, then Haley will sue him into oblivion and Will Folks will disappear into one of the poorhouses that the GOP favors for us all. Why won’t she file against him or get a temporary restraining order if she’s so huffingly-puffingly outraged by these sleazy tactics?
She has all the basis in the world for a big fat lawsuit, but she won’t file it because she’s guilty, she knows it, and she knows Folks can prove it. If you would objectively look at the evidence so far – you’d know it too. In fact, I think you do know it. If your husband came to you with this explanation for his late night phone conversations with a single woman you worked with, you’d laugh in his face (or worse).
She hasn’t taken any legal action and she won’t because “truth” is the best defense against libel. In fact, if Haley sues Folks knowing that his allegations are true, then she is the one who will pay heavily.
You really believe Haley’s explanation for the late night into early morning phone calls with Folks?
Really?
Then you’re just deluded.
By thesushi June 3, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Charlie, I’m in this now for a sort of personal statement of what I believe happened. Granted, that requires me to stick my neck out. But moreso important to me is that the facts are put out there, and we can all decide whether or not to believe it. I think news has lost that edge at times.
Instead, we source from politicians, which is exactly what’s going on here.
Now, the rub here is that Will’s no stranger to political work, Marchant is a paid advisor. But no one bothers to question the motives of Pearson? Strange.
Again, what many reporters tell me is that the effort isn’t worth it with their assignments, and in return, bloggers have become more relevant in the news cycle. And they are as freelance as they come. As this story provides as an example, CNN now has the ball as it were.
What they do with it, is up to Jessica Yellin, I’m assuming she’s lead at CNN on this after the piece they did on Rick’s List.
By Just Another SC Voter June 3, 2010 at 6:12 pm
Sushi, Believe what you wish. I flat out don’t believe it.
Don’t fret and there is nothing to fear. Nikki Haley is by far the best choice and any SC candidate and I look forward to seeing her as our next Governor.
By Benwood Dick Esq. June 3, 2010 at 6:16 pm
– Nikki Haley.
What a strange way for a woman to defend her reputation. Any woman I know would have said “I’m not wasting one ounce of energy on anything that has no truth whatsoever.” So it seems that Nikki Haley’s defence is that there is no proof rather than that there is no truth in the allegations.
By Dixie Poodle June 3, 2010 at 6:20 pm
Folks is a scumbag. Always was, always will be.
By uh-oh June 3, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Scarlett, I’m in total agreement with you, especially about Marchant — who would have a one-night stand with that guy?
I’m considering voting for Haley in Round One, too, and switching to Sheheen when it matters.
And Balsak, you are freaking hilarious……
By Just Another SC Voter June 3, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Paris, repeat after me…
“The problem is that any time you have a largely uninformed and uneducated electorate, that kind of lowest common denominator mudslinging can be effective.” – Will Folks
YOU and your like minded buddies are being played. Your bias is blinding you and it’s laughable. You overlooking one key aspect and that’s character. I got to hand it to you though.. you are consistently redundant but I might add unconvincingly so.
Sorry (not really) that I pushed a button. It must suck to be you living in a RED state.
By Brian O'Connor June 3, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Why are you people arguing over whether or not the texts/emails are real or forged. Who cares?! None of then say, “Damn it was good sexing you up last night” or “You’re the best lover I’ve had since my 4th grade teacher”.
Stop arguing about irrelevancies, let’s get some facts out into the debate!
Brian O’Connor
http://www.RedDogReport.com
@RedDogReport
http://reddogreport.wordpress.com/2010/06/03/red-dog-report-endorses-nikki-haley-for-south-carolina-governor/
By Jackson Browne June 3, 2010 at 6:49 pm
My final analysis….I think she did have an affair with Folks, and I think it lasted awhile. She may have slept with others, but not Marchant. He is just taking one for the team so to speak, because no one else will come forward.
I’m not sure what the true motivations are for everyone involved, but it crosses my mind that she blew folks off, and he is scorned and as men know, if we invest emotionally in a woman and she doesn’t notice, and she is so brazen as to sleep with other men (as in – it doesn’t matter that he cared about her and would have done anything for her) without so much as a by your leave (no appreciation), well there is his motive to turn. His motivation in the first place to support and push her for Gov was the pursuit and payoff that existed had she been “true” to him.
For the rest of these slimebags…My estimation is that the money would be PHAT for them to gain the Gov’s office. Add in the power and influence, and access in all indulgences that the office provides is what drives them. Make no mistake about it, the SC houses of government, or anywhere for that matter are to gain personally, not for their fellow countrymen to all prosper, but for themselves. Nothing more.
By Who's Next? June 3, 2010 at 6:57 pm
When is the focus going to shift from Haley to Connor. He has done the same thing, and there is proof! I’m sure he is shaking in his “honorable boots” just waiting for the truth about his love affair in law school to come out. I wouldn’t be surprised if the object of his affection took the Marchant route. It is pretty sickening to hear someone be so hypocritical!
By Educrat June 3, 2010 at 7:05 pm
http://www.aubergeresorts.com/hotels-resorts/auberge-du-soleil/
By Graffiti June 3, 2010 at 7:22 pm
Sarah Palin launches robocall for Nikki Haley………….
In the robocall launched Thursday, Palin tells voters she is “calling on behalf of my good friend, and a brave and strong conservative woman, Nikki Haley.”
Palin says that Haley’s rivals are attacking her with “made-up nonsense to try to knock you down.”
“Believe me, I’ve been there,” Palin says in the recording. “But you can make your own statement against these unfair attacks, and you can help take back state government, by voting for the real deal (Actually, if I may be so bold as to correct CNN, she says “dill” not “deal”) conservative, Nikki Haley on Tuesday.”
Sarah Palin defends the ‘honour’ of Carrie Prejean
The liberal onslaught of malicious attacks against Carrie Prejean for expressing her opinion is despicable. Carrie and I spoke soon after the attacks started; I can relate as a liberal target myself. What I find so remarkable is that these politically-motivated attacks fail to show that what Carrie and I believe is also what President Obama and Secretary Clinton believe—marriage is between a man and a woman. I applaud Donald Trump for standing with Carrie during this time. And I respect Carrie for standing strong and staying true to herself, and for not letting those who disagree with her deny her protection under the nation’s First Amendment Rights. Our Constitution protects us all—not just those who agree with the far left.
LMFAO!!!
By Balsak Tee Baghar June 3, 2010 at 8:06 pm
My friends, let’s assume for the one minute that the adorable and hot Nikki is indeed lying about these matters.
Who is hurt by these incredibly sexy activities? Not the voters . . . many males of whom wish they too were able to visit Nikki’s dark hole of Calcutta!
Not the voters, who have their own miserable lives to consider! They are tonight buying supper from the convenience store of my friend, Patel! Moonpies and Vienna sausages for the lucky ones — a Slim Jim or only pickled egg for the rest!
I say to you truly: A little adultery is a very small price to pay for smaller government.
This form of sexual meditation allegedly enjoyed by Nikki in her lower regions is also only one part of her personality. There is more than one spice in a good curry! She also believes in lower taxes!
That’s a win-win for the Gipper!
Finally, I say to you, let he who is without sin cast the first stone at his own rock-hard bone for Nikki! Stop being hypocrites and vote for a goddess who has descended from above to repair your state full of rotting outhouses and green teeth. Let Nikki make a Taj Mahal from the ruins of Fort Sumter, symbol of a defeated neck-red populace! Make the curry or get off the pot!!
Palin-Haley 2012!
I can see India from my house!
By Sick of Sanford June 3, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Why does Marchant wear a dead opossum on his head? And will somebody please send Haley a dollar so she can buy some good taste. Dear Lord, even if she had ever sunk low enough to boff Ichabod Sanford, that would still be a step up from ever doing this human hemorrhoid.
By Scooter June 3, 2010 at 8:52 pm
The problem is not really the sex. It is the lying about it. No one, ever, needs to be Gov. that lies so often about something that so many know about. There are others who have shared sheets with her, and we do not need to wait until she is in office to acknowledge that. Anyone who has had an affair knows you do not always have pictures or notes. You are too busy living in the moment to think you will need proof later. Wake up people, she is not a victim. Ask people that work with her, and ask those that went to college with her. Ask people that went on trips with her. Again, she can have all the sex she wants, just be grown up enough not to run for office and do not lie to the people in SC. What fools she is making out of those that can not see or admit what really happened. People say things about a number of candidates, but no one releases phone records, texts, or has a second person claim that the rumor happened. Rumors abound, but both of these men offered a first hand admission. This is wrong for our state. She needs to drop out and spare her family. But she will not. She takes good notes from Sanford’s behavior and what he gets away with. My money is on a relationship between those two. Sorry if wrong, but I have thought so for a long time.
By ceilidh10 June 3, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Character does count….
nikki…well…..
andre….mmmm….welll….see http://www.huffingtonpost.com for the blogs who have outed him….do you really want someone for gov who is lying about who he really is…can you imagine what will happen when he is REALLY outed this fall in the campaign??
barrett….another do-nothing Republican…what does he stand for? photgeneity? maybe…until his big gut stomach protrudes too much….a jobs governor? give me a BREAK he is clueless
Geewhiz…one could say our choices on the GOP side leave much to be desired
By baker June 3, 2010 at 8:54 pm
This is my first comment on this topic. But here’s what I’m thinking: No matter whose side you’re on in this, this whole deal shapes up as a real negative look at the SC-GOP, I’d say.
You’ve got either:
1. Various high level Republican operatives, including one with ties to another Gubernatorial candidate, making up horrible lies about a female candidate. Not real “family values” or anything else remotely decent.
or
2. Your libertarian-leaning, “family values”, pro-transparency, front-runner for Governor, endorsed by current Gov. Mark Sanford (no need to get into his issues here) and celebrity Republican Sarah Palin, having two extramarital goings-on and then lying about it.
How much corruption, hypocrisy, and just bizarre strangeness will SC voters allow before giving a Democrat a chance? (A lot, I fear, though we’ll see.)
By ceilidh10 June 3, 2010 at 8:55 pm
did u really expect a petit princess from the subcontinent of India to really run our redenck, white, Baptist government?????
By Scooter June 3, 2010 at 8:55 pm
If I get a robocall from Palin, I sweaar, I will shoot my phone!
By Craig Goldsmith June 3, 2010 at 9:02 pm
I don’t know too many husbands that would stand by and let someone discredit their wife. Why haven’t Nikki Haley husband come to the forefront?
By disgusted June 3, 2010 at 9:05 pm
Charlie! I truly enjoy reading your posts. What I can not understand is the WIS poll; more people belive Haley than not. Go figure. Sad day for SC if NH wins. She is a patholigical liar.
By disgusted June 3, 2010 at 9:06 pm
believe-oops
By Rylyn June 3, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Compared to Jake Knotts – Nikki Haley is a saint!
State Sen. Jake Knotts, R-Lexington, used the word, “raghead” to describe Republican gubernatorial frontrunner Rep. Nikki Haley, also of Lexington County, and President Barack Obama during an online political talk show Thursday evening.
Haley is of Indian descent. Obama, who is bi-racial, has an African father and white mother.
Knotts, who supports Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer in the Republican primary battle, said, “We already got one raghead in the White House, we don’t need a raghead in the governor’s mansion,” according to several people at the live broadcast of “Pub Politics.”
South Carolina State Senator Jake Knotts
- Gerry Melendez/gmelendez@thestate.com
State Republican Party Chairwoman Karen Floyd issued a statement, calling on Knotts to apologize.
Read more: http://www.thestate.com/2010/06/03/1315978/knotts-uses-slur-to-describe-haley.html#ixzz0pqKVmZv5
By Susan June 3, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Who’s Next – Bill Connor has much of the GOP base fooled, but there appear to be plenty of folks out there aware of his past indiscretions, as well. Like Haley, most folks would be willing to overlook such monkey business if he weren’t so hypocritical and he didn’t insist on telling the whole world how wonderful his marriage has always been.
What is it with these “Family Values” types that they can’t stay faithful? We all make mistakes, but don’t insult me by claiming to be something you’re not. It’s bad enough that they’ve cheated on their spouses, but what’s really disgusting is that they then lie to save their asses. Just what we don’t need in South Carolina.
By Hahahaha June 3, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Am I the only one finding it funny that Will Folks got sloppy seconds to Marchant?
All of the filthy rats wanting political power were tapping the same ass….too bad she didn’t have AIDS and thin the sociopathic herd of monsters looking to control everyone’s life.
By Balsak Tee Baghar June 3, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Gods bless you, Jakie Knutts!
You have just made Nikki Haley our new governor!
Thank you, fat Lexington tub of Crisco!
I am burning incense to almost worship you, my favorite pig-man politician!
Palin-Haley 2012
I can see India from my house!
By Brian O'Connor June 3, 2010 at 10:10 pm
WOW, South Carolina politics just got slimier.
http://reddogreport.wordpress.com/2010/06/03/and-the-slime-shall-rise-again/
Brian O’Connor
http://www.RedDogReport.com
@RedDogReport
By Who's Next? June 3, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Bill Connor strutted around the law school telling everyone he was an Army Ranger. In fact, lots of people called him Major Bill, much to his delight! He was pretty buff back then, and he made sure we all knew just how much he worked to maintain his Ranger physique. Today, it looks as though he has had one too many Twinkies! UGH! The guy is an egomaniac! Even then, he was talking about one day being governor. You would think he would have kept his zipper shut when he has such high aspirations. What was really sad was he threw the woman he left his wife for in law school under the bus when he decided to go back home to the wife a.k.a his financial supporter. What a low life fraud! It was well known around law school, and he even moved sections after the affair. Can’t believe nobody has put this out in the media. I understand there is proof, i.e. pictures, e-mails, etc. This guy is a fraud!!!
By jeremiahWRONG June 3, 2010 at 10:44 pm
After seeing that clip of Mr. Marchant’s ‘confession’, I’m beginning to form an opinion that Mrs. Haley is the recipient of the most dastardly act of political sabotage in election history.
Come on, people! That guy looks as queer as a football bat, for crying out loud! Pink tie…evanescant lisp…limp wrists…need I say more??
By Mike June 3, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Will, have you lost your mind?
By Todd June 3, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Wow she has a phenomenal ass. I think we can all agree on that.
By Balsak Tee Baghar June 3, 2010 at 11:24 pm
I am going crazy as a mouse inside a Calcutta taxi driver’s turban at the unfolding of these events!
First, let me accept Mr. Jakie Knutt’s future apologies on behalf of Nikki Haley, the woman of my meditations and dreams of wet release!
The tigress has claimed another victim!
We need more stories of lovers to emerge, so that Nikki’s numbers in the pollings will go up, up, up like the Himalayas above the mouse-men she is facing.
I call upon all former suitors, lovers, lobbyists, hotel bellhops, Sonic drive-in cooks, personal trainers, pizza deliverymen, pool cleaners and anybody else who may have had sex with our future Governess Nikki Haley to come out from their heterosexual closets and reveal themselves before the vote! We need your juicy confessions!
Thanks to you, Will Folks, for unleashing this wrath of Khan upon the good ole boys and girls.
Palin-Haley 2012!
A pitbull with lipstick and a tigress in Victoria’s Secret panties!
By Zuma Bound June 4, 2010 at 12:44 am
Well, JeremiahWrong, and all the rest of the redneck teabaggers down there trying to slime Larry Marchant for no better reason than he has come forward with some uncomfortable truths about Nicki Haley, all I can say is there’s nothing remotely effeminate about the guy, nothing remotely fake about his hair, and nothing remotely disingenuous about his story. Watch his interviews. He comes across as just a normal guy offended by Haley having done what a great many politicians before her have done, cheated on their spouses and then lied about it when the cheating came to light. If Haley wasn’t a teabagger darling and a Republican, and if she wasn’t female, and if her last name was Clinton, you’d be going after her with the same kind of simpleminded and demeaning insults you’re directing at Marchant. Southerners are perceived elsewhere as stupid and unsophisticated. There’s a reason for that. Keep your infantile BS to yourselves long enough for the facts to play out. As Marchant advised in one of his local news station interview, why not use you time instead to ask Haley tougher questions about Marchant’s allegations, like whether or not she was in Salt Lake City, Utah on June 14, 2008 at a school choice conference held at the downtown Marriot Hotel with Larry Marchant, among others, and whether or not she had dinner with him that night, had drinks with Marchant at two bars after dinner that night, and thereafter ended up spending the night with him and having sex with him.
By Psst June 4, 2010 at 1:17 am
http://www.fitsnews.com/category/good-stuff/ Threesome?? OH WHAT????
By Charlie June 4, 2010 at 3:58 am
thesushi:
‘Now, the rub here is that Will’s no stranger to political work, Marchant is a paid advisor. But no one bothers to question the motives of Pearson? Strange.’
Yes, but it’s partly because Pearson and the Haley camp is ‘the defendant’ from the charges. From journalists’ perspective, there’s no harm at all in questioning and pouring scorn on someone making an accusation. There is harm is doing the same with someone making a defence, because you might be sued.
I think a separate, but revealing, motif of the media coverage has been how Folks has been presented. ‘Blogger boasts of affair with gubernatorial candidate’ has been essentially the coverage, and the word blogger bandied around a lot in headlines. It’s usually not until the third paragraph, if that, that it is mentioned that Folks was until recently Sanford’s spokesman. You’d have thought that would be a bigger deal. ‘Mark Sanford’s former spokesman accuses gubernatorial candidate’. But ‘blogger’ is dismissive. The accusations haven’t been proven, and so right from the start the media decided to play it safe and side with Haley and against Folks. If Folks proves it, they will report it, and with relish. The focus will be on Haley’s downfall, and nobody will mention that the media took her side all along. If Folks doesn’t prove it and his case collapses, they will report it at lesser length, but with relish, because they were sceptical of him all along. The risk in taking Folks seriously is that they would actually have to do some work to find out the truth. They’d rather not touch it, and wait for others’ fingers to get burned. The whole media is waiting around like this, eating popcorn, waiting to comment the moment one of the players does something or – maybe – one of their colleagues does some primary research. A watchdog it ain’t.
‘Again, what many reporters tell me is that the effort isn’t worth it with their assignments, and in return, bloggers have become more relevant in the news cycle. And they are as freelance as they come. As this story provides as an example, CNN now has the ball as it were.’
I agree with all that but the last sentence. Yes, I’ve had experience of salaried reporters who just can’t be assed doing any digging, because it’s not worth the time in comparison to what they will be paid. There’s also the question of advertising dollars – controversial subject matter that involves accusations in politics might lead to court if your reporter doesn’t do their job very very well, and so it’s easier to leave it alone, run a story about a new fashion store opening and have an ad five pages along for the same store. Investigative journalism is dying on its feet. But yes, bloggers, ironically usually working for nothing, can and do occasionally dig, and keep digging, until they find stuff. Perez Hilton is a despicable man, but he’s a better gossip columnist than Liz Smith. Discuss. :)
Where I would disagree is that CNN has the ball. Sure, Folks has sent them his material. They may or may not publish. I don’t think it really has to be that way, despite everyone’s inclination. A really hard-nosed reporter would get Pearson on the phone and ask him a ton of questions, then publish in as clear and loud a way as possible showing why Haley is lying. The records CNN have may well be the level of evidence that the rest of the media craves, but I don’t think you need to have that kind of evidence to break a story. I think the text messages Folks published here and confirmed by the Haley campaign tell the story very clearly, and it’s one that is of a campaign trying to protect a candidate who is lying about her values and has tried to brazen it out. The fact that she is an attractive woman from an ethnic minority seems to have blinded journalists to this, because I doubt they’d have been so squeamish if it had been another white middle-aged male, but the fact is that there’s already enough evidence out there to hang her with – if a journalist is enterprising enough to go after it. Should journalists go after candidates in cases like this? Yes, of coruse: this is a story in the public interest, it’s important if she’s lying about this, in addition Palin has backed her and it says a lot about both the politics of this state but also the conservative movement if Haley is lying (which she is). It is the job of journalists to go after this. Journalists like yourself. :)
By Whippersnapper June 4, 2010 at 6:51 am
jeremiahWRONG said above (on June 3rd, 2010 at 10:44 pm):
“After seeing that clip of Mr. Marchant’s ‘confession’, I’m beginning to form an opinion that Mrs. Haley is the recipient of the most dastardly act of political sabotage in election history.
Come on, people! That guy looks as queer as a football bat, for crying out loud! Pink tie…evanescant lisp…limp wrists…need I say more??”
OK, now I want to see a summary of Will Folks’ phone records between him and Marchant over the last several years. Just for complete disclosure, mind you. Come on Will, fess up!! No more keeping the real stuff in the closet.
By Jerry June 4, 2010 at 6:57 am
Now we know why Rep. Haley is not worth a damn for public education. We are not bribing her with free trips to Vegas.
By Soft Sigh from Hell June 4, 2010 at 7:27 am
“Gods bless you, Jakie Knutts!
You have just made Nikki Haley our new governor!
Thank you, fat Lexington tub of Crisco!”
It’s Lexington County, it’s old fashion pork lard.
(The “GodS” was funny too!)
By mike June 4, 2010 at 7:40 am
I saw that Marchant interview and he seems about as queer as a three dollar bill. Give me a break. The only thing that lies worse than Marchant is the dead raccoon that sits atop his head.
I think he meant to say he fooled around with a Nick Haley.
By Soft Sigh from Hell June 4, 2010 at 7:41 am
I may now vote for the Teabagger Temptress, imagine her talents being used in industrial recruitment, in convincing movie producers to film here, in negotiating major conventions. Charleston might even get a GOP national convention. Or more shipping. Let Savannah and Gov. Sonny Perdue try to match her offer! She might even get Columbia some decent airline connections.
By Paris Sailin June 4, 2010 at 8:03 am
Just Another SC Voter
Indiana a “red” state? “In what sense, Charlie?” – Palin, 2008
Indiana voted for Obama in 2008. Look it up. The very conservative county I live in moved 10 points to the left in the last election compared with Kerry in 2004. Also I live midway between Indy and Louisville, and 20 miles from Bloomington, all Democratic bastions. Do you think I hang out at our local town grocery store where the folks who make up the GOP base sit around and talk loudly about our “Ni99er President” after church?
Those are your people, your party’s base that you support and cater to, not mine.
Of course, since you believe that Indiana is a “red” state, evidence like the last election won’t sway you.
It must suck to live in a state of denial with Randy (Sanford) and Frisky (Haley) as your political heroes.
By mavtte June 4, 2010 at 8:08 am
To Paris Sailing:
Evidently you do not comprehend what you read or you would not jump to conclusions immediately.
All politicians need to be truthful – especially now. If Nikki Haley needs to confess-better now than later. I still have hopes that the “good ole boy” system will began to fall.
Your life must be consumed by reading and picking “bones” of the posters on this site.
I am not a bigot but I am a Christain and I am not ashamed.What about you?
By disgusted June 4, 2010 at 8:13 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/03/opinion/03collins.html
Be sure and read the “recommended” comments.
By Royal June 4, 2010 at 8:27 am
Please take a Maury lie detector test to prove that you have not had any sex outside your marraige for 13 years as you have stated.When you pass the test let the world know that you are a sincere loving honest family woman .
If you refuse to take a test to clean up this mess or you indeed did commit some ill advised acts with these two gentlemen please come forward.
I can’t imagine how stressed out your husband must be over the allegations and I am praying for the kids and your family.
The two accusers have been justly vilified for these political tricks but if they have told the thruth and you have only been 99% faithfull instead of 100% as you stated ,only one vote counts and we all know that the one vote is never wrong and you can trick us but you can never trick the almighty one.
Only you and God know the truth Nikki ,one way or the other do the right thing.Not for the state,not for Sarah, but for your family.If its broken fix it.
By ceilidh10 June 4, 2010 at 8:49 am
Sen. Knotts….what a trip…..you cannot tell me the GOP in SC is not filled with racists. What a shame.
Someone told me Nikki was part Indian and part African but her character and leadership and truthfulness should count for far more.
By Male Sapphist June 4, 2010 at 8:51 am
Notice how the demoncrats are laying back? If Nikki Haley is the nominee she will be savaged and tonnes of out of state money will flood SC as attack ads against her. If you support her now…just remember that she will either be too damaged to govern or defeated by dems. There is no winning with Haley on this one. She needs to clarify or bail because to put her up versus V. Sheheen is a loser for us
By Paris Sailin June 4, 2010 at 9:22 am
mavtte
Okay, maybe you’re not a bigot. You just irrelevantly obsessed about gay people in your posts in a negative way and you don’t want those people in office. I stand corrected.
Who cares what religion one is? This is America. Or are you obsessed with members of other religions or the non-religious in a negative way as well?
By Scarlett June 4, 2010 at 9:22 am
To: uh-oh
Yes, I am now planning on voting for Nikki because apparently it REALLY pisses off a bunch of the third-graders running the state legislature. Yes, I think she is lying her pretty behind off about liking sex a little too much, but what the hell, the lie will end up sinking her in the end, just in time for Vince Sheheen to completely trounce her in November.
Hey, who am I to say that sex is bad, I enjoy quite a lot, thank you. The problem for Haley is she is lying about it. It will hang her in the end.
And to: Balsak Tee Baghar
I wait breathlessly for your next post! You are like a breathe of Indian Ocean sea breeze wafting thru the streets of Calcutta and cutting the stench of the gutters, a little bit. Keep writing, you make my Southern pantaloons sweat with your hot talk of Palin-Haley 2012, Fire & Ice — so nice!
By matt June 4, 2010 at 10:13 am
disgusted – Thanks for the link to the Times commentary. A good read. Some of the comments were on the money. This one in particular. It reminds me of how repression and phony hospitality often masquerade as good Southern manners.
MasonNew York CityJune 3rd, 201012:07 pmAs a native South Carolinian, I dream about that pretty state but doubt I’ll ever return. Strange things (bedfellows) do go on there, but by not acknowledging them, they cease to exist. The divorce rate is high, though it’s even higher in another Biblical-inerrancy state, Oklahoma. Sen. Strom Thurmond sired his first child with a black servant girl while in his twenties and in his sixties married a former Miss S.C. young enough to be his granddaughter. But remember: we don’t speak of such things, so they don’t exist. It’s much more fun to compare New York and Boston with Sodom and Gomorrah.
By Libb June 4, 2010 at 10:20 am
Zuma Bound, Well put!
By Brian O'Connor June 4, 2010 at 11:23 am
Hey Will, Nikki sounds pretty confident that you and Marchant did not have an affair with her.
http://reddogreport.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/nikki-haley-confident-her-accusers-are-wrong/
Any comments?
Brian O’Connor
http://www.RedDogReport.com
@RedDogReport
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By Sullyman June 4, 2010 at 12:02 pm
No new evidence Will? Yawn.
Our founding editor is full of shit. Buh-bye, Fitsnews. Our founding editor is nothing more than an attention-whoring, slimy Republican douche bag.
By Just Another SC Voter June 4, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Paris Sailin,
I was under the impression that you resided in South Carolina. Now, that I understand that you do not.. you can take your “tax and spend” democrat ideology and stuff it. You don’t have a horse in this race.
By Paris Sailin June 4, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Brian O’Connor
Here’s the excerpt from the interview from your website:
“Cohen: “If something comes out after you win the primary, or after you win the general election become South Carolina’s next governor, if something were to come out that validates the claims that have been made against you — in terms of stepping out on your husband and on your marriage — would you resign as governor because basically the way you’ve handled it has been an absolute, 100 percent denial? Would you resign or would it be dragged out?
Haley: “Yes.”
Cohen: “You would resign?”
Haley: “Yes.”
(snip)
IF something would come out that validates the claim? IF?
Something HAS come out that validates his claim. Many late night into early morning phone messages that she says were work related and that she claims were business as usual for her. It may not be “proof” like a semen-stained dress or a photo of them “in flagrante delicto” but it is enough to “validate” Will’s claim.
Imagine you’re in court. The judge says. “Mr. O’Connor, you are alleging that your wife was unfaithful to you, do you have any supporting evidence?”
“Well, your honor, I have phone records of 700+ calls, many of which lasted from late in the evening until early in the morning between her and a single member of her staff. She said she was working, and she did this sort of thing all the time, but she isn’t able to produce any phone records that show her doing this with any of her other employees.”
“Well, Mr. O’Connor, since you don’t have anything that validates your claim, I’m going to disallow your divorce on the grounds of adultery. Please let me know when you have something.”
“Well, your honor, I have corroborating testimony from another person who said they had sexual relations at a convention.”
“Well, Mr. O’Connor, that is hearsay, and I won’t allow it. Come back when you have something that validates your allegation.”
Anyhow, you get the picture. Yes, it’s not a photo, but it’s a picture nonetheless.
What a strange way of putting it – “she sounds pretty confident” that nothing more will come out. That’s your standard? So, what if something more comes out that substantiates Folks – you know, something more besides the text messages, the phone records, the demonstrable lies (evasions) of Haley and her campaign, and the like testimony from Marchant that is already out and that supports Folks allegations.
Heck, another few things and pretty soon Folks might almost have himself some real supporting evidence, eh?
Thick as a brick.
By Paris Sailin June 4, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Just Another SC Voter
Let me respond to that in the same intellectual vein as your insights, your borrowed rhetoric and your command.
“Make me.”
And I certainly don’t mean that in the Nikki-Haley-to-Folks-and-Marchant sense of the phrase.
By Zuma Bound June 4, 2010 at 12:34 pm
“Hey Will, Nikki sounds pretty confident that you and Marchant did not have an affair with her.
http://reddogreport.wordpress.com/2010/06/04/nikki-haley-confident-her-accusers-are-wrong/
Any comments?
Brian O’Connor
http://www.RedDogReport.com
@RedDogReport”
Hey, Brian, do you remember Bill Clinton up at that podium on national TV saying, “I. . .did. . .not. . .have. . .sex with THAT woman, Ms. Lewinksky?” He sound pretty confidant, then, didn’t he? And, he was lying, wasn’t he?
Why not just let the FACTS play out, rather than base your opinions on what may very well turn out to be just another politician lying with the ease and panache for which they are so well known.
By the way, Brian, there is no need to post the same post more than once. Everyone saw your last post the first time that you posted it. It didn’t carry any more weight the second time. And it didn’t make it anymore edifying or dispositive.
By Zuma Bound June 4, 2010 at 12:51 pm
To Whippersnapper, Mike, JeremiahWrong and the rest of the infantile, homophobic crackers posting comments here about Larry Marchant – Please just STFU !!! Seriously. Just because you were able to save enough money from mowing lawns in the neighborhood to buy a used computer from the guy down the street shouldn’t mean that the rest of us should have to suffer from having to read the elementary schoolyard taunts that you apparently feel it necessary to direct at Larry Marchant.
Now, boys, you need to leave the board to the adults here who have something of substance to say. Read the sign at the “front”, the one that says, “You have to be THIS high before you can get on the ride”.
Parenthetically, try to remember that it is considered axiomatic in psychology that guys like you who say the kinds of things that you are saying about Larry Marchant are, in reality, in the throes of a deep homosexual panic and deal with it by saying about others the things that they fear are true about themselves.
By james conrad June 4, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Sic!
Is it true that the THIRD Halley lover is Sen. Tom Davis? Our sources are pretty solid.
By Crooner June 4, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Figures. If she’d mess with you she’d do anybody.
I hear more claims are coming out this weekend. It’s a shame. She should be lauded for sharing. It’s not like she’s gonna run out of it.
By mike June 4, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Awe poor Zuma has her panties in a bunch. Yes what a profound thinker you are. Wasting time on on blog like us knuckle dragging homos. Your so mad at poking fun a Lary Marchant. Sorry if your his his wife, but dont take it out on us that you married a homo.
By mike June 4, 2010 at 2:14 pm
PS Zuma. My computer has a thersaurus well. You are not impressing anyone.
By Whippersnapper June 4, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Regarding Zuma Bounds posting above (on June 4th, 2010 at 12:51 pm)
Wow Zuma, it appears that some folks have hit a nerve with you. Are some of the posters here coming too close to the sensitive truth for your taste?
By Sunny June 4, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Someone previously posted Haley is Sanford in a dress – more like Tiger Woods in a dress if more men come forward!
By Palmetto Pulse June 4, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Enjoy!
http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/hshuS8HGXuyKlm8k
By Zuma Bound June 4, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Mike and Whippersnapper – I’m not trying to impress anybody, guys, especially a couple of mouthbreathers like the two of you who exhibit the maturity and intellectual levels of elementary schoolyard boys calling each other “faggots”.
To be honest, boys, I don’t have a horse in this race. I just don’t care if Nikki Haley wins or loses. I listened to what Larry Marchant had to say, and found him credible. Knowing, as we all do, that politicians lie about cheating with great confidence and bravado (remember Bill Clinton and his “outraged” denial of having sex with Monica Lewinksky), I’m not willing to buy Nikki Haley’s protestations at face value, particularly when a credible witness offers evidence that she is, in fact, lying about being faithful to her husband.
Anyway, Mike, your 2:13 pm post was classic. What a tool. Listen, buddy, I’m sorry my vocabulary, and probably my grasp of the rules of grammar, too, for that matter, intimidate you. For the record, homeboy, it’s the product of a lifelong dedication to education that seems to have eluded you and how you express yourself. Now, pop in another plug of “chewin’ tobacky”, turn Rush back on and STFU. Instead of posting comments on blogs like this one, maybe you should think about finally getting that GED, assuming that you actually ever made it to high school (the quality of your written comments suggests the possibility that you may not have).
Whippersnapper, no nerves hit here, other than any that might be found on my bullsh*t meter. As I was saying, I don’t have a horse in this race. I just hate bullsh*t, and there is a lot of it being thrown around here.
Larry Marchant is being demagogued because he had the temerity to say that Nikki Haley has lied about her marital fidelity. So, how do the teabagger, Haley-apologist morons like you and Mike react? By calling Marchant a “f*gg*t”. That’s just bullsh*t. It’s just wrong. And it’s idiotic. And it demonstrates just how infantile political partisans and ideologues can be. Marchant isn’t gay, but you don’t really care one way or the other, do you? You’ve gone to the extent of questioning his manhood and his sexuality for no better reason than because he gored one of your sacred cows. It’s pathetic. I said what I said above for that reason. People like you and Mike demean the process with your immaturity and “you’re a f*gg*t”, partisan bullsh*t.
For the record, Whippersnapper, you and most of the rest of the posters here wouldn’t recognize the truth if it bit them on the backside.
By Zuma Bound June 4, 2010 at 7:07 pm
At 2:13 pm, Mike wrote, “Awe poor Zuma has her panties in a bunch. Yes what a profound thinker you are. Wasting time on on blog like us knuckle dragging homos. Your so mad at poking fun a Lary Marchant. Sorry if your his his wife, but dont take it out on us that you married a homo.”
Wow, Mike, those are some really “profound” observations. I don’t think that I’ve seen insults like those thrown around since the fifth grade. You’re a tool, Mike.
There is an adage you should keep in mind the next time you think about shooting your mouth off. “Better to remain silent and be thought the fool, than to speak and remove all doubt”.
Look, don’t begrudge me the vocabulary and grammar skills that a lifelong dedication to education have given me me. I’m not trying to impress anyone, Mike. I’m just passionately speaking my mind in an articulate way. I’m sorry that you are intimidated by, and resent me for, my ability to express myself clearly, and feel that your only recourse is to impugn my sexuality like a fifth grade boy, struggling in a schoolyard confrontarion to find the ultimate “cut low”, might. But, hey, its okay, I’ll just go back to my life when this exchange is over, and you’ll go back to fuming unhappily in your little uneducated, tobacky-chewing corner of the world. I can live with that.
Whippersnapper, I’m pretty confidant that you and “some of the posters here” wouldn’t know the truth if it bit them on the backside. In any event, no nerves struck here. Just calling them like I see them. You’re giving Larry Marchant a raw deal, for no better apparent reason than he had the temerity to gore what appears to be some kind of sacred cow for South Carolina teabaggers. I find that pathetic, and said so. The only “sensitive truths” here seems to be that Larry Marchant is a credible witness and that Nikki Haley is an adulterer and a liar, and the only thin-skinned people around here “sensitive to the truth” seem to be Haley-apologists, blinded by teabagger sensibilities and partisanship, the very same people that, ironically, were probably calling for Bill Clinton’s impeachment over the Monica (“I did not have sex with THAT woman”) Lewinsky because he cheated on his wife and lied about it.
Bill Clinton and the Monica Lewinsky affair should be a cautionary tale here for all of you Haley-apologists. Remember just how confident and outraged Bill Clinton appeared when he said, “I did not have sex with THAT woman, Ms. Lewinsky”? It didn’t change the fact that he was lying.
Remember that the next time that Nikki Haley says something about her marital fidelity. She IS a politian after all. Lying is what they do best. Right, Governor Sanford?
I trust that if Nikki Haley starts to say that she was hiking the Appalachian Trail on June 14, 2008 in response to what Larry Marchant had to say about her, even you will have to change your tune.
Anyway, hold on to one of your “Nikki Haley For Governor” t-shirts, all right? You’ll need it to wipe the egg off of your face when she finally cops to the truth of what Marchant said.
By Jackson Browne June 4, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Zuma Bound,
You, my dear are a girl that I’d like to get to know. Way to tell the boys, and I do mean boys, how it is.
Jackson. What does Zuma Bound mean?
By Jackson Browne June 4, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Zuma,
I amend my last post by stating that I don’t find Marchant credible in the least for the following reasons:
He was paid by Bauer for consulting services – In that line of work, I’m willing to bet 50.1% preponderance of the evidence right there, that the “stand” didn’t happen.
Also, his 1st quote, he started and was quoted by saying the word “We….” That says conspiracy to me. Look it up.
Why didn’t he come forward 1 to 2 weeks ago, or last year for that matter? Give me a break, a paid operative suddenly gets a conscience a week before the primary? Over the last 2 years, why didn’t he grow a conscience for his wife first, foremost, and only? On that point alone, even if he’s telling the truth, his character is lacking at best. So what does that make Bauer?
Look at the body language and all other nuance at the debate. Even if Haley is a liar, she’s a hell of a lot stronger than Bauer, and even if she is vapid and full of shit….I’ll take her command of a moment and her courage to fight against the white boys for the governorship over any of these other fat-ass, white, privaleged, built their lives on lies, and Mommy and Daddy’s money so that they have never known what it is like to work and worry sleazebags any day of the week and twice on Sunday, and I am a white male.
By mike June 4, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Zuma or Mrs Marchant. Look I am sorry that Larry’s dick smells like shit, but that not my fault.
Oh and you think you are having thoughtful debate on a blog? Really? Go find a straight man and get laid.
I am not intimidated, I find it hysterical that you write on a blog and expect respect.
By TheRightMan June 4, 2010 at 8:01 pm
By Zuma Bound on June 4th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
“Better to remain silent and be thought the fool, than to speak and remove all doubt”.
Zuma Bound, I stopped reading your long-winded comment when I reached your first use of “teabaggers”. Any poster that seeks to insult his/her fellow citizens by using insults based on sexual innuendos is not worth wasting time on.
So I say to you, take your own advice and remain silent for you have already removed all doubt for me.
By Brian O'Connor June 4, 2010 at 8:17 pm
So, anything new happening here?
Brian O’Connor
http://www.RedDogReport.com
@RedDogReport
By Jackson Browne June 4, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Seriously, I am dumbfounded that this whole family values and God bullshit still drives debates, elections, and overall conversation in the media and on blogs. Get beyond the misdirection and standby fear inducing claims that your freedom and your life are in danger if you put the government in the hands of anyone but a white male that as it happens exhibits NONE of the virtue or protective actions that they say they’ll provide.
If government and oversight and checks and balances on private corporations are so bad, then why are these guys so willing to sell their sister or mother to get elected?!
Wake UP South Carolina!
By Zuma Bound June 4, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Gay Mike said – “Zuma or Mrs Marchant. Look I am sorry that Larry’s dick smells like shit, but that not my fault.
Oh and you think you are having thoughtful debate on a blog? Really? Go find a straight man and get laid.
I am not intimidated, I find it hysterical that you write on a blog and expect respect.”
Sure you are, Mike. And you’re still a tool, not to mention a petulant, uneducated little turd and probably a closeted, self-loathing homosexual.
Look, you should really stop fantasizing about male genitalia. What is truly “hysterical” is your infantile, homoerotic obsession with “Larry’s dick”. Just out of curiosity, how is it that you know so much about it?
By Reuben June 4, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Whatever happens between a man and a woman should remain between that man and that woman. You should have denied it. It was not like she raped you. You consented. You knew what you were doing. If there was a leak, you as a real man should have denied it. Man up!
By Ed June 4, 2010 at 10:25 pm
In that picture, she has a super hot ass, so I can see why all these men would bang her.
By It's SC June 5, 2010 at 6:28 am
Everyone makes a big deal about the Marchant-Bauer connection but whats been unsaid so far is that Marchant has a connection with each candidate and their consultants. All of South Carolina’s consultants and operatives are inner-connected. Larry provided fundraising for Bauer. Marchant is a longtime associate of McMaster and served on boards with him. Marchant was a long time tenent of Richard Quinn & Associates (McMaster’s Consultants) and shared office space with RQA on Gervais Street. In addition, he was friends socially with all of the McMaster crowd. Marchant had a professional and social relationship with Nikki Haley that included numerous school choice meetings and dinners in Columbia and trips throughout South Carolina and around the nation.
By Brian O'Connor June 5, 2010 at 8:14 am
It’s SC – I think the issue with Marchant-Bauer comes down to who’s payroll Marchant was most recently on and who benefits from his revelations.
Brian O’Connor
http://www.RedDogReport.com
@RedDogReport
By mike June 5, 2010 at 8:51 am
Zuma
Bingo I won. Your lengthy dissertations have been cut down to sophomoric polemics about my latent homosexuality. You have been dragged down from your pontificating down from the mountain top to calling me names. You are engaging in a tit for tat on a blog. You are no better than me.
Here is your to do list for Saturday.
Double up on the Zoloft.
Turn OFF the computer
TALK to people. Not TYPE to people.
I am going to enjoy this fine weekend. I suggest you do the same. Please, do feel free to stay inside all day looking out the window and typing away on a blog.
Cheers
By More Questions June 5, 2010 at 9:22 am
On Wednesday you wrote: “Interestingly enough, we’ve spoken with several sources who say that Marchant had been secretly providing Haley with inside information on Bauer’s campaign for several months – including the timing and content of television ads as well as Bauer’s overall strategy for the race. These sources say Bauer fired Marchant for disloyalty, not his”
Anything new on the allegations Larry leaked Bauer campaign information?
By GDI June 5, 2010 at 10:40 am
I always thought Bill and Hil Clinton had an arrangement and she let him philander as long as he didn’t embarass her, and vice versa. We heard rumors for years about a woman lawyer in NY who was her friend. It would’ve been a lot easier to have an open relationship before he became the Pres. What does this have to do with the Haley thing? Michael Haley seems like a nice guy and she seems like a high energy, type A personality. He certainly seems to be buying her explanations. Maybe he isn’t outraged because he knew already. Some couples are swingers and one spouse likes to hear about the other’s escapades. Who knows? If that’s the situation, she sure as heck isn’t going to say, I wasn’t cheating on my husband because he’s a cuck and consented. For now, she 100% denies anything. To paraphrase Alex Hawkins, that’s her story and he’s sticking to it.
By janiceinthemountains June 5, 2010 at 11:50 am
I’m trying to figure this out. Haley says that if the allegations are proven (that she had affair/affairs), she will resign. Yet she says it didn’t happen. If they are proven to me are code words that they happened. She’s a real piece of work.
By Sick of O'Connor and Connor June 5, 2010 at 12:15 pm
Brian O’Connor, why don’t you say something anybody wants to hear? You are constantly on Will’s site because you want to get hits to your own lame site. Why don’t you look into the story about Bill Connor. He had an affair in law school, but keeps lying about it. In the clip with Richter, he even goes on about his lengthy marriage and that his personal life is above reproach. What a hypocrite! So disgusting. At least it appears Marchant and Will told the truth, and if you don’t think so, why don’t you check the circumstantial evidence, that would most definitely hold up in family court. All I see are biased media reports supporting Haley and calling her a victim. It is too bad reporters now are willing to sell out to be popular with a particular candidate. Gone are the days of true reporting, where the facts were laid out and real investigating was done. Anybody can re-circulate what has already been blabbed about in other media outlets. You want credibilty, earn it! As of right now, you are a laughing stock!
By MountainMan June 5, 2010 at 1:20 pm
I think the issue with Marchant-Bauer-Folks all comes down to a bunch of closet gays wanting to claim to have it on with a woman.
My vote is going to the Raghead Ho!
By KGM June 5, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Has Marchant taken his polygraph yet with WACH FOX TV? His one condition for taking the polygraph was for WACH to get Nikki on camerage refusing to take a lie detecter test. Hopefully WACH has a camera crew enroute to find Nikki anywhere she is in South Carolina and get her on camera rejecting the polygraph. That shouldn’t be too difficult for WACH TV.
By Whippersnapper June 5, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Charlie said above (on June 3rd, 2010 at 4:24 pm):
“I meant ‘posit’, not ‘post’. :)”
Sorry Charlie, I was thinking “poseur” as I read your posting.
By Whippersnapper June 5, 2010 at 2:20 pm
janiceinthemountains said above (on June 5th, 2010 at 11:50 am”
“I’m trying to figure this out. Haley says that if the allegations are proven (that she had affair/affairs), she will resign. Yet she says it didn’t happen. If they are proven to me are code words that they happened. She’s a real piece of work.”
janice, if Will Folks claimed that Haley was a reptilian space alien Haley might say she’d resign if that was proven. Simply saying that certainly would not be “code words” indicating that she actually was a space alien (that is to anyone other than the most simple minded). But these boards are showing no shortage of the simple minded lately.
By Paris Sailin June 5, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Whippersnapper,
I am quite possibly one of the “simple-minded” to whom you refer, so being a simple person, could you explain simply to me the following?
1. Originally Nikki Haley indicated in response to Folks’ allegations that “he worked for her” for awhile, but that she barely knew him. Then he released phone records of over 700 calls between the two, many of which were 2-3 hour conversations from late night into early morning – so simply how can what she said be true, that she hardly knew him?
2. Haley’s campaign stated flatly that they were not in contact with Folks prior to his allegation being published, yet Folk’s released text messages that showed this was a lie. Simply how can that be?
3. In response to the release of the records of the late night into early morning phone calls going on during the time frame of Folks’ alleged affair with her, Haley responded in an interview that all these calls showed was that they talked on the phone, that this was her work style, to call and take calls around the clock, and that anyone who knows her and works for her knows that is the case. So why hasn’t she simply released phone records of her own showing some of these other employer-to-employee work-related round-the-clock calls to “anyone” who knowsheer and works for her (if, of course, she more than barely remembers who they are).
Simply, thank you.
Paris
By Simple Pete June 5, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Brian O’Connor,
First of all, you suck. Your website sucks too. Sorry dude, but it’s true.
On to the stuff about Marchant. Look, the guy you were hitting is right. Pretty much every politico in South Carolina is somehow connected to every other politico, at least on the Republican side. And you could fit all the Dems into a phone booth, so it’s probably true there too.
Whatever you want to say about Marchant, it’s clear to me that the case is NOT settled by the fact that Marchant worked for Andre. Once the polygraph comes out, we’ll know for sure and that’ll be that.
By Vincent Sheheen is My Man June 5, 2010 at 6:42 pm
It is a glorious vista. I can see it now. Sheheen is governor. Yes, Vincent, you are the answer. When you are governor, you will make me your right hand, and I will worship you. I am so phony and vacuous, so you will make me your chief fundraiser. I will call on older ladies, because deep down, even though I’m a man, I’m most at home in the presence of old ladies. We can have fancy lunches and gossip. I love you, Vincent. You are so handsome. I love you almost as much as I love commenting on blogs.
By janiceinthemountains June 5, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Something really stinks here. She needs to honest up. After seeing that list of phone calls, she really needs to honest up.
By Sally June 6, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Let’s see…
Andre states that Nikki should take a polygraph test to see if she is telling untrues…
Well, South Carolina Citizens saids….. “We the People in South Carolina” WANT EVERY POLITICIAN IN SOUTH CAROLINA TO TAKE A POLYGRAPH TEST TO SEE IF THEY LIE.
Think they will take the tests>?
By C20H26N2O June 6, 2010 at 8:11 pm
To the Bluebloods from outside SC who make negative comments about our state:
We have nowhere near the mess that you have created in your own state. So stop taking asylum here. Stay home and pay your taxes. You created it – you own it – now you live in it. The behavior of our politicians is no worse than the ones in your state. We simply have the spotlight at the moment. One thing that some of you liberals might find distasteful is the rumor that SClinians are unusually heavily armed. Just wanted you to have that rumor along with the rest of this crap.
By Brian O'Connor June 6, 2010 at 10:34 pm
OUCH!
“Only 13% of voters believe the allegations about Haley’s marital infidelity”
http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/06/haley-staying-strong.html
Brian O’Connor
http://www.RedDogReport.com
@RedDogReport
By CSOL 2L June 7, 2010 at 7:48 am
I can see India from the Charleston School of Law! And they’re dancing in the streets because Vincent Sheheen will be our next governor.
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