By FITSNews || For a campaign employee she claims to have barely known, S.C. Rep. Nikki Haley certainly paid plenty of late night visits to our founding editor’s town house in early 2007.
In fact, multiple witnesses are coming forward to say that they saw Haley’s white Cadillac SUV – identified by a Haley campaign sticker and State Legislator licenses plate – outside of Will Folks’ downtown Columbia, S.C. town house at all hours of the day and night during the time period that Folks’ alleges he and Haley had an “inappropriate physical relationship.”
One of these witnesses even preemptively contacted Folks on the day the story broke in an effort to distance himself from the pressure that was being exerted on the blogger by Haley’s enemies.
Here’s the message, which was received in Folks’ Facebook email account:
Another witness who walked by Folks’ town house every night during early 2007 on his way home from work claims to have seen Haley’s car parked there on multiple occasions late at night.
It is expected that both witnesses – whose names are being protected for fear of retaliation – will testify to what they saw, along with numerous other witnesses who were aware of the relationship at the time and can provide details of what they saw.
Additionally, in early 2009 Folks now acknowledges being confronted with a photograph of himself and Haley in what he calls a “compromising position.” The photograph was allegedly taken by a private investigator hired to uncover dirt on him, not Haley.
“They were looking for dirt on you,” a source familiar with the photo tells FITS. “What they got was you and her.”
Just as he did with the information he was receiving prior to this scandal breaking, Folks contacted Haley to warn her about the existence of the photograph.
“I pray you escape all this,” Folks wrote Haley in an email message in mid-March of 2009.
Haley wrote back encouraging Folks and apologizing for the situation.
“Stay strong. Have faith,” Haley replied to Folks. “I’m sorry for any pain you are having to go through. You will be ok and better for it.”
“I have considered leaving the whole business,” Folks replied.
“Focus on healing yourself and clearing your mind,” Haley responded. “It will help you get everything into a realistic perspective. Only then can you make the right decisions for you and your family. You will get through this. I promise.”
Haley and Folks also had several extended phone conversations at the time concerning the photograph, which was never made public.
The possibility that photographic evidence of an affair existed was one of the main reasons that our founding editor chose to preemptively address the issue on FITS earlier this week.
In fact, Haley’s campaign manager Tim Pearson – who knew about the first picture – alluded to the possibility that there might be additional photographic evidence in one of the dozens of text messages he exchanged with Folks in the days prior to the story breaking.
“If he has a pic its very new,” Haley’s campaign manager wrote Folks on May 21, referring to one of the campaign operatives who was allegedly pushing the story with members of the mainstream media.
A list of witnesses and voluminous phone, text and email records dating back to the time of the affair are currently in the process of being compiled by Folks’ team of advisors.
Stay tuned …
By gentleman May 27, 2010 at 8:50 am
Now remind me mr. folks, who is holding the equvalent of a political switchblade in front of whose throat? Really?
By Confederati May 27, 2010 at 8:53 am
Will, If you are telling the truth, this reminds me A LOT of what happened to one of my good friends last summer:
“The Internet Lynching of Marcus Epstein” – http://vdare.com/misc/090607_buchanan.htm
By Teddy May 27, 2010 at 9:01 am
The lack of tangible evidence is really starting to get annoying and leaves me to believe the allegation is not true.
This is typical behaviour from K Floyd’s goon squad at SCGOP.
By Pragmatists May 27, 2010 at 9:05 am
Sorry, guys, you are not there yet, There might be a pictiue. It might be compromising. Unnamed people might have seen a car at some vague time of night for an undescribed period of time.
I’ll skip tomorrow and so will a lot of people and then it is Memorial Day weekend.
If you actually have the goods, they have lost 50% of their impact. If what you have is more of this, you will be a laughingstock.
By Joe May 27, 2010 at 9:09 am
Folks – If all this doesn’t bear fruit you and FITNEWS are done!
By Soft Sigh from Hell May 27, 2010 at 9:10 am
I stand aghast. It is a car wreck in slow motion.
Two careers end here. Why?
By Bill Doyle May 27, 2010 at 9:13 am
Will, I’m beginning to think you’re not very smart.
Do you know what the word “evidence” means? It’s not an ambiguous post about a white vehicle that was parked in your driveway three years ago.
Quit being an attention whore and show your cards.
You’re not going to be the next Drudge…your 15 minutes is nearly up.
By MMMKay May 27, 2010 at 9:13 am
This entire thing just sickens me. The slow trickle. I’m sure your lawyering up is making the process slower, but I still can’t believe Haley and her loons haven’t “lern’d” anything yet, why keep denying the inevitable?
By MBAcapitalist May 27, 2010 at 9:17 am
I guess late night fun is late night fun. No wonder legislatures work late… wonder who was watching the kids, the nanny or the husband.
This story has dragged on and with Memorial Day weekend, the dominating news stories will be the gulf oil spill, the holiday travel, and the market meltdown. The evidence being withheld by Folks will have to be so damning and over the top in order to have the impact that it would’ve last night. I think Haley escaped this one; it could’ve been worse that this turned out. I’m sure her husband is pissed, family upset, but then again, she’s going to be the first female governor and non-caucasion governor for the state of SC. A female version of LA’s governor if you will.
By Joshua May 27, 2010 at 9:18 am
Quit dragging your ass and just come out with it already. The sooner you do, the sooner your family, her family and everyone one else in this pathetically run state can move one to better things.
By NothingHere May 27, 2010 at 9:18 am
There is ZERO evidence here. He said/she said. You are indeed done if you don’t have significant/real evidence.
By Sarah May 27, 2010 at 9:19 am
By all means… drag this out as long as possible. It’s not annoying in the least.
By james May 27, 2010 at 9:21 am
this is sounding more and more like Joseph Mccarthy’s “I have in my hand a list of communists in the federal government. ” We know how that ended.
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 9:22 am
I think some people commenting are missing the point. Folks doesn’t want to reveal everything, because it will look bad for Haley and, no doubt, himself. Either he’d already met his wife, or he simply doesn’t want her to read sleazy emails he wrote to another woman before he met her, and so on. So he is drip-dripping to try to get Haley to admit she lied before he has to reveal everything, and in doing so is indicating to her than he has the goods and will use them if she doesn’t admit she has lied.
The key part of this post is the email exchange. By itself, it doesn’t prove anything. But if you’re Nikki Haley and her campaign, it proves he has that email exchange. When Haley responds ‘You will get through this’ and so on, it doesn’t mean much without the context. But she now knows he has that whole context. If she doesn’t admit she had the relationship with Folks, he may well publish the rest of that email exchange. No, it’s not a photo or a tape. But, if verified – and bear in mind that most of the players in the SMS texts have actually verified they were real – it will be very damning. Because he will have emailed her to say ‘Someone has found out we had a realtionship and they have a photo’. And instead of replying ‘Um… but we never did have a relationship, so there can’t be a photo – what are you talking about?’, she has replied ‘I’m sorry for any pain you are having to go through. You will be ok and better for it’ and so on.
Commenters will continue to claim that anyone can make up SMS messages or emails. The people involved in the SMS messages have confirmed they were real. These emails will also, clearly, be real. The only question is just how much proof Folks has. That there was a relationship is clear already, and so Haley has to choose whether to bluff him, and think that voters and the media will not accept these blog posts as enough, and that he has no more. Or she realizes, along with people commenting here determined to find a way to make this not be the case, that even without photos Folks will be able to show that they had a relationship of some kind. This email exhange will be enough, because if you haven’t had a fling with a guy and he emails you worried that it will be exposed, you tell him to get lost, rather than offering sympathy and reassurances. The full email exhange will make it very clear they were involved… if it comes to that.
This is all now pretty obvious to anyone who has a brain. Unless, of course, you’re someone who thinks that Folks has been supporting Haley for this long only to be paid off by Marxist conspirators to smear her with no evidence to then… oh, something like that, it must be! She can’t be lying, after all, she’s a politician. Or if you’re in the mainstream media and can’t read properly to realize where the story is going and how you should be reporting on it.
By Fred May 27, 2010 at 9:24 am
I have to agree with the other comments. You are starting to lose the spotlight and the patience of the public. If you have something….show it all…today. Otherwise, you’ve just committed professional suicide.
By Kathy May 27, 2010 at 9:26 am
Whatever happened (infidelity) should be a matter between the ones involved and their spouse. It should not be held against someone seeking a job, unless it occurs during the term of the job–and within the public building–as in the Clinton affair.
By Say What? May 27, 2010 at 9:27 am
Will: It is time to put up or shut up. While I tend to believe you, dragging this thing out is not good for anyone.
By flipnut May 27, 2010 at 9:29 am
Charlie, you need to drink more Paylin koolaid, your making sense.
By Conspiracy Theorist May 27, 2010 at 9:30 am
Has anyone considered that the target of this sleaze might not be Haley, but rather Sarah Palin? Many people in the GOP have millions of reasons to share with FITSNews if they help to discredit Palin. So Willie can claim that he’s not being paid by any of Haley’s opponents.
He has never operationalized “inappropriate physical relationship.” My guess is that he touched her inappropriately, and she pushed him away. So neither one is telling a lie.
If there is a photo, you may not be able to believe it anyway–the newest version of Photoshop can alter photos in a way that is almost indetectable. So question any photo you see unless it is accompanied by an affadavit from the photographer.
By Dont Have a Dog in the Race May 27, 2010 at 9:31 am
It’s been real, Folks. See ya’…
By Frank May 27, 2010 at 9:34 am
Your strongest case is still the fact that you haven’t been sued or shut down. This seems to be a game of chicken between Fitsnews and the campaign, but so far its way too inside to get the public fired up.
The Fox/Drudge/NRO axis is staying silent on this and they’re the collective feeding tube for GOP primary voters. I’d say CNN is only going to keep you on page for another couple of days unless you come up with something explicit (pun intended).
What’s amazing is no write-ups seem to have picked up on the line, “You screwed her and bragged about it”…
By Kama Sutra May 27, 2010 at 9:34 am
Bumpers sticker seen on white Cadillac SUV, “When these shocks are a rockin’ don’t you come a knockin’”
By Susan May 27, 2010 at 9:35 am
Will, you are a blogger, nothing more. Repeat after me, you are nothing. You don’t have a career, you don’t have anything to lose, you are nothing but a LOSER, and a convicted criminal, don’t you understand? Now go get hooked up to some jumper cables Turnipseed style and end this nonsense.
There’s something happening here
What it is ain’t exactly clear
There’s a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it’s time we stop, children, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
There’s battle lines being drawn
Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it’s time we stop, hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It’s time we stop, hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop, hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
Stop, hey, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
Stop, now, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
Stop, children, what’s that sound
Everybody look what’s going down
By newzjunkie May 27, 2010 at 9:36 am
Awww, if he doesn’t show it by mid-next week, his creditability is out the windows. He’s losing steam and he knows it. No one will be hitting this site over the weekend. Let’s enjoy it and come back on Tuesday!
This isn’t enough to prove an affair. An inappropriate friendship, maybe… but even that’s a stretch.
I had hope it would get juicier by now.
Thanks Will, but I’m yawning. I need a Starbucks!
By Odie1941 May 27, 2010 at 9:37 am
“Witnesses?” What was witnessed? A so-called car, with a so-called description? How about a license plate?
I love the Law and Order build up… “the witnesses are protected due to fear of retribution”… hahaha.
“Evidence mounting?” what evidence and where?
So you cut and paste a FITS facebook submission (so 3rd grade clever… block out the name, pic and of course… the timely dated “May 24th” stamp) But you fucked up in the so-called “account”. You claim a witness sent it – but refers to “Will’s house” How would they know its Wills house……………… unless they already know Will? HAHAHA. Love the “I am there for you buddy, call me” BTW – when were they friended and why?
And its been pointed out repeatedly – the character count within your “text messages” are all over the map, yet – no word from the “FITS” camp… all 2 of you.
Do you really expect people to believe someone (or is it 2 – always need 2 to lie effectively) remembers a sticker on a car 3 years ago?????? Hahahaha, wow – you kids are impressive.
And can’t you get a better stock shot of the “scales of justice” and not someones schwag weed scale?
I have to say – I am impressed by the lunacy of you people. One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest is my favorite movie after all… “motel”
By Eddie May 27, 2010 at 9:37 am
I think some of you would do yourself a favor by re-reading Charlie’s comments. While Mr Folks’ integrity is certainly questionable, both now and in the past, try to remember just one time when allegations of this nature have turned out to be false.
He obviously wanted to give the Haley campaign a chance to get in front of this issue since it was apparent to Mr Folks that this was indeed going to be made public.
My only question is, if this is true, why would the Haley campaign fall into the tried and true political suicide of deny, deny, deny, confess, cry, and apologize. Most people today are very forgiving and marital infidelity is not equivalent to political death. If she had come out after the initial allegations and admitted that ” My husband and I went through a difficult stretch on our marriage several years ago and at that time I made some truly regrettable choices. We have since worked through those mistakes and our marriage is now stronger than ever and I am a far wiser person because of this experience.” That would have been the end of it and she would still have a great chance of being the next governor.
I think her campaign is throwing away every opportunity they have been given to salvage this campaign.
By Zack de la Rocha May 27, 2010 at 9:40 am
And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
And now you do what they told ya, now you’re under control
By PICURN May 27, 2010 at 9:41 am
Notice Today’s tunage….the waiting is the hardest part. I fully expect Haley to start eating Crow, and soon.
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 9:43 am
Still in denial, people. Read the email exchange quoted. Imagine the rest of those emails Haley sent to Folks. If he publishes them, how will she explain them, having categorically and publicly denied she has ever been unfaithful to her husband? He has emailed her to say someone has photographic evidence of them in a compromising sexual position. If they had never had a relationship, she would have replied that this is impossible, because no photographs can exist, so get a grip, why are you contacting me, are you nuts? Instead, from this small exchange we can already see that she tried to reassure him everything would be fine.
If you think it through, you will realize that the only plausible explanation for the email exchange is that they were involved.
If you think it through, you will realize that the rest of the email exchange is probably more damning. ‘Don’t worry – I cherish the time we had, but will never reveal it to anyone’ or something along those lines, some wording explicitly confirming the relationship, will probably be in the emails. Imagine writing Haley’s reply to Folks and not giving that away. Hard to do.
If you think it through, you will realize that Folks has not invented this email exchange. Tim Pearson, Wes Donehue and Jim Davenport have all confirmed that the SMS messages were real. If Folks were going to invent email exchanges, they’d be more damning than this anyway – and where would doing that lead him?
If you are a reporter, do your job and realize the import of this post. Get a quote from Haley or Pearson. Report on the obvious contradictions. Do your jobs and think and investigate, and stop acting like scaredy-cats because it has the word ‘blog’ in it. Think through the implications and do some serious reporting on Haley’s obvious hypocrisy and lies. There can be no other explanation at this point.
By Joe May 27, 2010 at 9:46 am
The mainstream media has already dropped this story !!
By Gramsci--GoogleHim May 27, 2010 at 9:51 am
Charlie is entirely too intelligent for this thread. Honest to God, we have a conspiracy theorist who thinks this is an attack on Blessed Virgin Sarah Palin– talk about personality cult.
Charlie’s point, for those who play poker, is that Will, Nikki, and the press each have a hand. Will has figured out that the press is just slow playing their hand, they are not bluffing. So he’s trying to get Nikki to fold along with him, without either of them losing too much of their money. He thought she would fold after his first bet (confession). Unfortunately, it looks like Darling Nikki going to grind, going all in against the press and Will.
Who knows, maybe Will Folks and Tim Pearson are insane, but if I had to bet I’d say she is going to lose.
By Jimmy May 27, 2010 at 9:51 am
Well, I have officially lost interest in this one. Pretty obvious this is a ploy to drive up hit counts on the website. Congrats on your 15 minutes. Unfortunately they are coming to a close because of your inability to deliver on your promises. It really comes off as desperate and pathetic.
By misstate May 27, 2010 at 9:53 am
ahhhhhh, so that PI story is true
why don’t you tell the whole story
tell who hired that PI and why
SC politics needs to be cleaned with a clorox enema
By Varga May 27, 2010 at 9:55 am
I love the tuneage today. Will, I love your strategy. Think of all the sweating the Haley and probably Barrett campaign are doing.
By Silicone Sister May 27, 2010 at 9:55 am
I suggest everyone see “The Hills Have Thighs”
By Karen May 27, 2010 at 9:57 am
YAWN!! You are starting to BOOORRREE me.
By Odie1941 May 27, 2010 at 9:57 am
FITS trolls.
When starting an account to boast about this idiot and try really hard to provide cover for him…. get a little more clever than 1 word first names…. and hire someone with at least a 90 IQ.
Carlie Folks:
Too many words, not enough substance. Repeating the same lie, doesnt make it “true” to the simple minded folks out there… pun intended.
Do you know what an IIS log is?
Do you kow what an SMS e-log is?
Didnt think so…
And for those morons wondering “why hasnt Nikki sued yet… she must be guilty” – um – no. That would qualify this idiot, spend time, money and resources – and most importantly WOULD TAKE YEARS, which Will and his minions know – after the “damage” has been done.
However – as of May 25th – Haley leads 39%, followed by McMaster at 18%, completely flipping the March 25th numbers, where Nikki trailed by 25 points…
Its clear – the “disclosure” was a timely political hit job – and as Ace has said repeatedly … even if it IS TRUE, a scumbag Folks played his hand so poorly.. she will receive “sympathy” for the hit job…
Remember people – Will was Sanfords “Dir of Communications” … you know – the worst bumbler of lies, cover and communicating in politics.
This is the idiot who decided “Appalachian Tral” was the best form of cover… haha while Sanford was in S America – and spotted by a traveler in Atlanta’s Hartsfield Airport… uncovering the whole scandal.
And he continues to fuck up basic communications like a 5 year old daily on this site.
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 9:57 am
Eddie, good question. I think the reason she didn’t do that is the same reasons it’s failed so many times before: polticians are arrogant, and she thought she could get away with it. Why did Sanford do that, and all the others? In this particular case, she had more reason to be confident she’d get away with it, because the guy in question has been supporting her for a long time, has a slightly shady past, is now ‘just a blogger’, and is unlikely to have any evidence – after all, he contacted her in a panic that someone else might have a photo.
I think she could still get away with it if the media are too idiotic or chickenshit to do their jobs. Even The Huffington Post – which is hardly an ally of Haley’s! – has screwed up, because they’ve inadvertently taken her side:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/26/nikki-haley-blogger-affai_n_590336.html
‘Haley’s campaign told Politico Wednesday that the text messages provided by Folks were proof that the blogger’s “overactive imagination has gone into overdrive.”‘
Spectacular way to miss the point, which is that Pearson confirmed the SMS messages he sent were real, and then claimed – very implausibly indeed – that he was simply trying to stop a false story from getting out and that Folks has an overactive imagination. It needs an underactive imagination to read those SMS messages and believe that they are discussing a story he thinks is false. Pearson sent an SMS to Folks saying he thought Donehue probably didn’t have anything. ‘I think they’re just trying to get someone to jump. This is like the 4th diff kind of evidence he’s claimed to have.’ If he thinks it’s a false story, why would he send this message, which he has admitted he sent? Why would he think anyone would be able to make anyone ‘jump’ and admit to a relationship if there was none.
Come on. He wouldn’t.
The SMS texts from Pearson are arrogant. They say ‘You and I know you had a thing with her, but if we keep quiet, nobody can prove it’. Pearson’s explanation for them now doesn’t make sense at all. So Haley’s camp though they were safe. They were hoping Folks would keep quiet. Then they were hoping he had nothing. Now they will be hoping he doesn’t have enough, and that the media are dumb.
Read this post and the story is very plain. The rest of the email exchange can only prove a relationship. If you’re a half-decent reporter, get on it and pressure Haley’s campaign on whether this email exchange is real. And just join the obvious dots and do your job.
By jim May 27, 2010 at 9:59 am
Boring.
By Politics Rocks May 27, 2010 at 10:00 am
Keep taking your time. Trust me, the public is not losing patience at all
By Simple Pete May 27, 2010 at 10:01 am
Charlie,
Good call. The worst part of this for the Haley campaign is the inept crisis management. They know Will, and they know him better than anybody. All of those people are Sanford alums for all practical purposes, and Will has been helping them for years. The Nikki-for-Guv plan is a very old one.
What is beyond amazing to me is that the people who knew Will the best took up an ostrich pose in exactly the wrong moment. You talk about crisis communications failures? This is worse than when poor Joel Sawyer had to go drag Mark Sanford back into the bunker at that ridiculous press conference.
And all of you who think this is an inside-the-tent echo-chamber story… umm, wrong. This led every local newscast last night. Press practically assaulted Wes Donehue at his Pub Politics show last night. This is a VERY big deal, and as long as Will continues the drag-out phase of this, it just continues to hurt Nikki.
I truly don’t know if Nikki had come forward and admitted it all, it would have made any difference to the ultimate outcome. It may be that Camp Haley is playing at the Kobayashi Maru scenario. But I think they had to know that Will had the goods, and in that circumstance coming clean as early in the process as possible was the only potential solution.
By sclawboy May 27, 2010 at 10:03 am
Damn, Charlie, you’re making a pretty convincing and rational point. Too bad others around here don’t seem to be thinking about how this is going down.
By Odie1941 May 27, 2010 at 10:05 am
Carlie –
What fucking emails are you talking about??????????? Do you mean SMS messages you dumb fuck?
And again – where are the verified IIS logs if its email?
Good lord, get the fucking proper terminology right when trying to cover for you, or is it your friend, or your cousin…
Wow what a moron.
I said it yesterday – VERIFY THE IIS LOGS OR E-STAMPED SMS MESSAGES BY A 3RD PARTY. Then continue the slow bleed hit job.
It would raise the “legit” meter by 10000000.
It is scary that “communications” people can’t get basic communications correct.
You keep saying Pearson admits to the “emails” – though its actually texts, however you fail to leave out when he continues and says “were taken out of context…”
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 10:07 am
Put another way, imagine that there was no sexual relationship between Haley and Folks. Explain this message from her campaign manager Pearson to Folks, which Pearson has admitted he sent to CNN (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/26/trending-s-c-blogger-reveals-texts-with-top-haley-aide/?fbid=Al0LY4lTCjG):
‘I think they’re just trying to get someone to jump. This is like the 4th diff kind of evidence he’s claimed to have.’
How can you have evidence for something that doesn’t exist? Why would they even be discussing it at all? Surely if nothing had happened, it would go more like:
Folks: Ha! Just heard that a paper plans to claim I slept with nh!
Pearson: Classic. You didn’t, right? :)
Folks: Of course not! Told you that before.
Pearson: Great. Nothing to worry about then. Catch you later.
‘I think they’re just trying to get someone to jump. This is like the 4th diff kind of evidence he’s claimed to have.’
Pearson has admitted to CNN he sent Folks this message. Explain it plausibly if there was nothing to cover up. You can’t be worried about someone coming up with evidence for something that never happened. He is arrogantly assuming that Donehue is bluffing and has no hard evidence of what he knows happened, ie a sexual relationship.
Transparently.
By Jonny D May 27, 2010 at 10:07 am
I still don’t see what’s the BFD, so Folks was givin her some gangsta luv, in deep, woke that ass up just to put her to sleep.
I don’t know bout you, but I like the idea of a sexy chick who likes to fuck!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV-Xcy_bF2w
By Sullyman May 27, 2010 at 10:11 am
Our founding editor is a desperate attention whore, and nothing more. I have seen zero evidence, and our founding editor’s claimed motive for airing this story do not add up.
Our founding editor is a bigger loser than Joe-the-Bummer.
By Sara M May 27, 2010 at 10:12 am
The mainstream media have not dropped this story.
Miami Herald as of this AM: “Haley rumors dominate S.C. gubernatorial race coverage”
NBC Augusta, last night: “Campaign manager says Haley will address alleged relationship in next debate” (that should be interesting)
Associated Press, yesterday (currently up on a variety of sites): “Sex, scandal again in South Carolina political air”
By phreddy May 27, 2010 at 10:12 am
That is the problem. We have to imagine the rest of the emails. all we have is Will’s quoting on what Nikki said. Will did not even provide the whole conversation with the texts he released yesterday. What he released looks like it could support his story, but without the other missing texts, Nikki’s story is plausible too. Will has provided the only evidince released so far and it is very sketchy. We still have not seen any MSM release any evidence. It would still be a major story if a major media player released a photo or some solid evidence. Why haven’t they?
By TomStickler May 27, 2010 at 10:14 am
“By Dont Have a Dog in the Race on May 27th, 2010 at 9:31 am
It’s been real, Folks. See ya’…”
Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!
By sclawboy May 27, 2010 at 10:17 am
Oh, and Joe, have you seen TheState.com this morning? Still the lead story.
By Steve V May 27, 2010 at 10:21 am
do you not realize by releasing very little at a time, that is giving Haley a chance to fess up before the big one is dropped? He’s giving her every opportunity to do it in a dignified manner…however the constant denials will force Will to show his whole hand. Its like poker. If you are beat, get out of the pot while very little is invested. Don’t go to the showdown, where you can lose your ass.
By Good Ole Boy May 27, 2010 at 10:24 am
As others have said, there was no need to “get out in front” of a story that was never going to exist. Without your own admission, they had nothing but rumor, which could have easily been dismissed with a firm denial. Those rumors, by the way, probably came from you kissing and telling in the first place.
Your decision to admit to this thing seems almost like you are bragging about it. Banging a married woman, though, is nothing to brag about. The people you told may have given you a sly smile, but in reality they probably thought your were a piece of shit for both doing it and then bragging about it.
This whole thing was completely unnecessary. You held the keys to this scandal. You were the one who opened that door.
By Anonymous May 27, 2010 at 10:30 am
I wish you people would just release it all and let the “chips” fall. I’m tired of waiting for “evidence,” and “documents” and whatnot.
Get on with it!
By Skinny May 27, 2010 at 10:31 am
First off…
DON’T. EVER. SAY. THIS. AGAIN!
To borrow from the esteemed poet Marshall Mathers, the game needs you!
Will, I didn’t doubt you for a second, for the simple fact that I know you would not have disclosed this unless it was true AND necessary. Furthermore, the idea that you are using this for $$ or clout or whatever is ridiculous too. You had to make a decision whether to “handle” this situation or let the press “handle” it for you. Good call.
When you get a moment, check out Proverbs 16 (esp. verses 6 and 18). Stick to it and you can’t go wrong.
Peace,
Skinny
By Get a life Folks May 27, 2010 at 10:32 am
How big of a dork do you have to be to keep stringing these rediculous 3 paragraph bull shit stories along. Come on man, your sick little beat off fest fantasy over Haley is very creepy. If you did what you say you did then proove it. Your web site is 3rd rate at the best also. Have a good day!
By John May 27, 2010 at 10:32 am
First any man who runs around crying and telling people of any woman they do have a physical relationship does not belong in South Carolina. Second any reporter who wants the lime-light so much that he is willing to show himself as such a wimp is not a good reporter. You are a weak little person and it shows. I feel sorry for your current wife not because you may have messed around while you were ‘engaged’ or what-ever but because you are a small minded narcissistic little man who will never be a real man to your wife. Please do not have children.
By Disgusted In SC May 27, 2010 at 10:33 am
Mr. “UNFAIR and UNBIASED” web blogger…. you are completely and totally insane. She says “stay strong and have faith…sorry for the pain YOU’RE going through”. Yep, sounds like she is having sex to me. YOU ARE A SICKO!
By Gregory Pittman May 27, 2010 at 10:33 am
Wait a minute. Her white Cadillac SUV was spotted in front of Folks’s townhouse in 2007? With a campaign sticker? Haley was elected to the House in 2004. She announced her run for Governor in 2009. There wouldn’t have been a campaign sticker on her vehicle in 2007. Or am I missing something obvious here?
By TMZ Cola May 27, 2010 at 10:34 am
Joe, it was on the front page of the State today. I don’t call that dropping the story! Everyone is waiting on Haley to acknowledge her lies. It’s very clear there was a relationship and that Sic has been doing his very best to give her an opportunity to come clean without his having to reveal all of the dirty laundry. Giving the public all the emails, text messages and communication will do nothing but further damage the families. Nikki should spare her family the impending humiliation and acknowledge the relationship, take ownership and ask for forgiveness. If she had done that from the beginning her campaign would have survived this turnoil because her message hasn’t changed. I guess the person giving it has though? Very sad for all involved.
By Disgusted In SC May 27, 2010 at 10:36 am
Remember the very first blog….Folks says he’s doing this to HELP his family and Nikki and won’t say anymore????? Now that he’s gotten everyone’s attention he won’t shut up. If it were true you would have stuck to your original plan – SHUT UP ALREADY.
By Be a man May 27, 2010 at 10:36 am
Seriously, this is either a ploy to help NH get the sympathy vote, or you’re trying to sell horse apples. It is both irritating and annoying that you drag this on and on. If you have proof show it, if not, shut the hell up and quit trying to be important! You know you may have single-handedly changed my views on the good people of South Carolina. I always imagined that state to have “down home principles” and old fashioned customs. If you were running around telling people that you screwed my wife, I would have already paid you a visit and shut your pie hole for you. Through that process I’d get the truth as well – just in case I needed to kick a slut out my house! I’m surprised her husband stands by idly and that you think the press is your biggest worry. I’d have showed you some real southern hospitality by now.
By John May 27, 2010 at 10:42 am
What a small man. Either you need attention so bad you’re willing to drag a friend into the mud or you’re living in a fantasy land where you think some small smile to you means she loved you. Either way you are a small minded little man who really doesn’t represent South Carolina well as a MAN. If you have these personality issues it’s probably best you not show them to the public. Please think about moving to some other state like California. The men of South Carolina would appreciate that and I’m sure the women of SC would appreciate it more.
By Greenville Girl May 27, 2010 at 10:45 am
Will,
My questions to you . . . .
You have written several times that you chose to release this information about Nikki & you in order to protect your family.
Would it have sufficed for you to share this with your wife & family (I don’t know if you have children or not) and be done with it, rather than broadcast it to the world?
A very wise friend gave me some great advice some years ago. When you are considering telling someone about something that has happened, just ask yourself, “What will be gained by telling him/her/them about this?” Obviously your wife needed to know, but I question if you really needed to take it public in the manner you did. It has now taken on a life of its own, it has the overtones of a made for TV movie. I don’t think it would have if you had not begun writing epistles.
Haley & you could have kept your mouths shut, allowed the story to hit, then released a statement and not comment on it. What guarantee do you have that the photo won’t be released anyway? Were you trying to scoop the other blogger?
Because of the way this has been handled, your family is now subjected to hearing it at the top of every hour on the news, reading about it if they pick up any paper, etc. I feel for your family, as the hurt and emotions which come with it are stifling. How is this better than handling it privately?
Regardless of what comes of this, at this time I still intend to support Haley and I will still read your website daily. It gives great insight to the corruption in our state.
I also question how/if this affects Nancy — you KNOW that your actions also can have an effect on people’s perception of her choices, character and credibility — she lives by a different code than you do and also has a lot a stake. As a Citadel wife, I have been a big supporter of her and her success. She has brought such a positive light to The Citadel. I hate that she has been dragged into this mess, probably as much as you do.
You can’t put the cat back in the bag, but you can kill it. Let it die and move on — for your family, for Nikki’s family and for the other people you care about who have been indirectly dragged into it.
By jimb00b May 27, 2010 at 10:45 am
I like the people that think this has nothing to do with how she will handle her job. Try saying this outloud, “She will lie to her husband and hurt her children for personal gain but she would never do the same thing to the tax payers and illegals in this state.”
Now, don’t you feel foolish?
By Jamesit May 27, 2010 at 10:46 am
We all know Mr. Folks is going to stick it to her (no pun intended) just before the Republican Primary so she doesn’t have time for damage control.
By Hermione May 27, 2010 at 10:46 am
I don’t know, Charlie. I think there’s something fishy about the email exchange above (if, in fact, it’s even authentic). Haley seems to be comforting WF about something that’s happening to HIM, but doesn’t sound like a married politician worried about being caught for her own complicity in whatever “it” is. Here’s the excerpt:
“Stay strong. Have faith,” Haley replied to Folks. “I’m sorry for any pain you are having to go through. You will be ok and better for it.”
“I have considered leaving the whole business,” Folks replied.
“Focus on healing yourself and clearing your mind,” Haley responded. “It will help you get everything into a realistic perspective. Only then can you make the right decisions for you and your family. You will get through this. I promise.”
For all we know, WF is talking to her about something else entirely. If there were really a compromising picture of them together, why isn’t she freaking out and worrying about her OWN situation? She keeps telling him “you’ll get through this… you’ll be okay…” Obviously, SHE would be the one with everything to lose, not Will. In light of that fact, don’t these responses seem odd?
By corblu800 May 27, 2010 at 10:47 am
If Charlie’s right, Haley will admit and apologize over the Memorial Day weekend, when nobody’s paying attention to the news. Don’t think it will help after the denials, though.
But if Folks is telling the truth, why wouldn’t he have waited to reveal all over this weekend so the whole thing could be admitted and over before anyone comes home from their holiday weekend?
By Backasswards May 27, 2010 at 10:47 am
Perhaps there is a silver lining to all of this political sex scandal talk in South Carolina. It looks like we’re beginning to shake the whole: “Welcome to SC, where we like to have sex with our sisters, and half of us are married to our cousins” label.
That’s gotta be worth something, right?
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 10:49 am
‘Carlie –
What fucking emails are you talking about??????????? Do you mean SMS messages you dumb fuck?’
No, I mean the excerpts of the two emails mentioned in the article above, you dumb fuck:
‘Stay strong. Have faith… I’m sorry for any pain you are having to go through. You will be ok and better for it.’
Folks replied to this email (‘I have considered leaving the whole business’), and Haley replied to that:
‘Focus on healing yourself and clearing your mind. It will help you get everything into a realistic perspective. Only then can you make the right decisions for you and your family. You will get through this. I promise.’
Those emails.
I also mentioned the SMS messages yesterday, but never confused the two, My point was that as three of the parties have confirmed that those SMS messages were real, despite lots of howls in here about how easy they were to fake, it seems pretty likely these email excerpts are also real.
‘And again – where are the verified IIS logs if its email?’
There aren’t any. There wasn’t any evidence the SMS messages he published were real, either, but Pearson, Davenport and Donehue confirmed they were. Again, if these email excerpts are invented, they’re pretty weak, and will get Folks nowhere. Anyone with a brain can see that they’re real, and that the rest of them, if published, would almost certainly show, very clearly indeed, that Haley lied when she said she had not been unfaithful to her husband.
‘Good lord, get the fucking proper terminology right when trying to cover for you, or is it your friend, or your cousin…
Wow what a moron.’
No, I think I just showed you were the moron. Read what I write before jumping in next time.
‘I said it yesterday – VERIFY THE IIS LOGS OR E-STAMPED SMS MESSAGES BY A 3RD PARTY. Then continue the slow bleed hit job.
It would raise the “legit” meter by 10000000.’
The legit meter on the SMS messages is pretty high – Donehue, Pearson and Davenport have confirmed they were real. Plus, Folks is not doing this for our benefit. He’s showing Haley and her camp that if they don’t admit it he has evidence. He can do the verifying later – they will know this is real, of course, because she sent him these emails.
‘You keep saying Pearson admits to the “emails” – though its actually texts,’
Show me somewhere I said that.
‘however you fail to leave out when he continues and says “were taken out of context…’
No, I think I covered his explanation. No context I can think of can explain it. If nothing had happened, the way to stop the false news from getting out would be to tell Folks ‘Let them do what they want. They can’t have any proof as it didn’t happen.’ Not:
‘I think they’re just trying to get someone to jump. This is like the 4th diff kind of evidence he’s claimed to have.’
If someone keeps claiming to have evidence of something that happened, you can either believe them and admit it – ‘jump’ – which is what Folks did, eventually, or you can just hope they’re bluffing. If they have claimed several times to have evidence and none has appeared, you’d reply just as Pearson did.
If, on the other hand, someone claims to have evidence of something that never happened, you don’t even bother thinking about it, let alone getting into a whole bunch of SMS messages strategizing. If it didn’t happen, they clearly can’t have any evidence for it!
Use your brain.
By impatient in Michigan May 27, 2010 at 10:50 am
I believe Folks probably did have an affair with Haley, but I’m doubting he has any smoking gun. It looks to me like he’s stringing this along trying to get her to admit it because he doesn’t have damning proof.
I’m getting bored with this story. Put it all out on the table or be done with it.
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 10:54 am
Phreddy:
‘That is the problem. We have to imagine the rest of the emails. all we have is Will’s quoting on what Nikki said. Will did not even provide the whole conversation with the texts he released yesterday. What he released looks like it could support his story, but without the other missing texts, Nikki’s story is plausible too. Will has provided the only evidince released so far and it is very sketchy. We still have not seen any MSM release any evidence. It would still be a major story if a major media player released a photo or some solid evidence. Why haven’t they?’
Probably because they don’t have it. Your logic is faulty, though. Here’s how I see it:
The SMS messages have been confirmed as true by the parties involved. Even out of context, there is no plausible explanation for them other than that Pearson knew there was an affair. Try to think of one. Try to write the rest of the context.
As the SMS messages were real, let’s just take it that the email excerpts are for the moment, too. I think it’s extremely unlikely they’re invented, for numerous reasons, but mainly because it would be idiotic to have come this far if he had nothing, and he clearly had something because the SMS messages have been confirmed. And, yes, once again they have been quoted selectively and out of context. Try to imagine how the rest of the context could possibly exonerate Haley, though? It can’t. If there was no affair, there would be no reason for her to reply to Folks’ concerns about exposure at all, let alone in the way she did – whatever the context. There’s no context that you can fit those comments into that fits her story.
I mean, I know politicians never lie and all, but some here do seem rather naive, and not a little slow.
By Whippersnapper May 27, 2010 at 10:55 am
This is SIMPLY MORE BULLSHIT FLESHED OUT WITH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. All this BOGUS stuff you’re stringing out shows all the expertise and sophistication of a middle school bully with a room temperature IQ.
But, from your perspective, it must be nice to know that there are even dumber people who are falling for it in their desperation to believe despite a total lack of evidence and substance.
By phreddy May 27, 2010 at 10:56 am
If he is trying to help Nikki, why doesn’t he give Nikki all of the “proof” instead of releasing it here? Something on the order of “Nikki, I have to go public. Here is what I have that I can release. Get prepared.” Instead we have Will going to the press and realeasing the only proof even after he has said the MSM had proof and forced his hand. Nobody has released any prooof except what Mr. Folks is trying to pass off.
By flipnut May 27, 2010 at 10:57 am
Is someone at Fits keeping track of all the emails addresses so all the blind and dumb posting here can be tracked down for re-education and work camp assignment?
It’s truly scary some of you are allowed to vote for anything more than what flavor popsicle your getting for dessert.
some of these post are better than 4chan, classic meme material.
By Tree Rollins May 27, 2010 at 10:57 am
Oh Nikki you’re so fine
You blow my mind
Hey Nikki
Hey Nikki
Hey Nikki – you’ve been around all night
And that’s a little long.
You think you’ve got the right but I think you’ve got it wrong.
Why can’t we say goodnight? So you can take me home
Nikki.
’cause when you say you will
it always means you won’t.
You’re givin’ me the chills
Baby
please baby
don’t
ev’ry night you still
Leave me alone
Nikki.
Oh Nikki
what a pity you don’t understand.
You take me by the heart when you take me by the hand.
Oh Nikki
you’re so pretty
can’t you understand.
It’s girls like you
Nikki
ooh what you do
Nikki
Do
Nikki
don’t break my heart
Nikki.
Hey
Nikki – now when you take me by the who’s
Ever gonna know
and ev’ry time you move
You let a little more show.
There’s something you can lose – so don’t say no
Nikki.
So come on and give it to me anyway you can
Anyway you want to do it
I’ll take it like a man.
But please
baby
please don’t leave me in this jam
Nikki.
Oh Nikki
what a pity you don’t understand. . . .
Oh Nikki
what a pity you don’t understand. . . .
Oh Nikki
what a pity you don’t understand.
By Ouch May 27, 2010 at 10:59 am
FITS – you may have to get a real job if this doesn’t pan out…the agony.
By anonymous May 27, 2010 at 11:01 am
Will Folks Talks to News 7
“Haley Says She’ll Address Affair Claim Soon, Folks Lawyers Up”
(VIDEO)
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/haley_camp_shell_address_affair_claim_at_next_deba.php
By Philip Branton May 27, 2010 at 11:05 am
Wil Folks……
All this attention to your site and you FAIL to give readers any knowledge to the Landfill Methane SCAM being run ….!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8290130.stm
How much has Barrett received from this “Horry County Methane squeeze” in his campaign coffers..!?!
Will Barrett even talk of closing down ALL Landfills in our state with this new technology…unlike Governor Sanford..!?
This de-centralized energy production would benefit homeland security….!!!
Needless to say…all candidates have been MUM to date concerning our state’s natural ENERGY resource capitalization…!!
Will Haley even call BOEING on the carpet for getting millions in taxpayers funds but yet not produce Algae bio-diesel here in our own state in partnership with black farmers and BMW workers…!?!
WOW …fits..!!
Way to really call all elected officials out all across our state…!?!
Wil…do you really want to be a LEADER…!?!
By Skinny May 27, 2010 at 11:07 am
My comment was supposed to start off with
““I have considered leaving the whole business,” Folks replied.”
Don’t EVER say THAT again!!
The quote didn’t come thru the 1st time.
-Skinny
By Trevor Bauknight May 27, 2010 at 11:07 am
As others have said, this isn’t about the affair for me. It’s about the quick, vehement and flat denial by Haley that’s going to be very difficult for her to walk back. People are sick of liars representing them, above all. I’ve voted in the past for Pat Buchanan and Ralph Nader. They don’t have a lot in common, except that they are honest about their positions and there’s really no ambiguity there.
Granted, marital infidelity is the one thing that most people would lie about, particularly when they haven’t been through a healing process with an informed spouse. But she was warned this would come out, it appears she knew there was photographic evidence, and she still made this decision, fueled, no doubt, by the prodding of the ridiculous Sarah Palin, whose home life needs a great big red and white striped tent thrown over it. Haley made the decision to deny the affair flatly, I suppose because she lacks the constitution to be forthcoming about it with her family or something, and now she has to live with that decision.
In retrospect, I suspect she will see the folly.
By Odie1941 May 27, 2010 at 11:08 am
Why are there such long delays in verification here, in between “War and Peace” length posts from Folks’ supporters???
Hmmm, could it be 1 person is writing under a few different names – then while “moderating” – has their hands full????
Perhaps the “Founding Editor” needs to hire another person or 2…
And I notice nothing is debunked, but the same rambling posts just keep appearing, while repeating the same meme and lies…
By yarrrrr May 27, 2010 at 11:10 am
“Campaign manager says Haley will address alleged relationship in next debate”
I read that, and I took the actual words from her campaign that she wouldn’t be taking questions from the media and would only be answering questions during the debate…
By Tom Morgan May 27, 2010 at 11:10 am
Folks – if you care or have any feelings for this woman, THEN WHY
ARE YOU DOING THIS? Please – leave her and her family alone !
By cui bono May 27, 2010 at 11:11 am
i’ll just give you idiots a clue as to what is really going on. whether or not will folks and nikki haley ever had any kind of “innapropriate relationship” is completely irrelevant. what is obvious is that this “scandal” benefits both individuals involved. it obviously benefits will folks, the real star in this scandal (not haley), by making his name, his rep (in many arenas) and this site WAY BIGGER. and it benefits haley because she is being “persecuted” by someone (“the media”), who for her benefit has limited credibility, “a blogger” with a disgraced history in politics (therefore reinforcing the validity of her denials). its pretty obvious will folks will do or say anything to advance his cause (both this site and his candidate, haley) and haley will say anything, the more calculatedly cynical the better, to play on the naivete of the same rubes in the SC republican party who still, to this day, have mark sanford at 62% favorable rating. LOL! its a pretty sophisticated and daringly brilliant strategy. haley had nothing to lose a few weeks ago when she was in 4th place and nobody knew who she was on a statewide scale. then she gets spotted in 400k in tv ads, and pulls the (previously) biggest type gimmick by bringing in dingbat palin. so if she’d use palin, she’d do absolutely anything. since she categorically denied the affair, she won’t swerve from that tack. but anyway, combine the 400k in ads, the near instantaneous materialization of sarah palin on the scene (which usually costs another 100k), and then that picture of folks, sanford, and haley, and its a good bet that this is all a really brilliant and daring strategy. of course it could only work on the types of people who would still overwhelmingly support a person like mark sanford. throw in the state news paper and wvoc constantly pimping the story and youve got a perfect storm. congrats, will, you are truly the heir apparent to atwater. if this works and haley wins, you will be an alltime legend in SC political manipulation.
By Dan May 27, 2010 at 11:15 am
Wow… this is hilarious but sad as well.. I guarantee half of the accounts posting pro-Folks comments are the Founding Editor sockpuppeting. Have fun with this… no one is going to believe someone who has lied in the past, says he’s preempting the media on a story to protect the target of the story, and then proceeds to post supposedly “incriminating” but really made up inconclusive phone records and random helpful facebook messages from no one..
By Eddie May 27, 2010 at 11:16 am
I can’t believe that so many of you are letting your dislike of Sic convince you that he is lying. Is Sic a slimeball? Sur he is, just like practically every other political operative in this state. That doesn’t mean these allogations aren’t true. The biggest debate in my mind is quickly become “what’s his motive.”
He could be dragging this out for the reasons stated above that he is trying to give her a chance to confess without having to release all of the dirty little details. He could be a jilted lover who is dragging this out until just the right time. He has already stabbed her in the back, but he’s waiting for the perfect moment to plunge it the rest of the way in and twist it to inflict the most damage.
Either way, I am becoming more and more convinced that there is some truth to this story. To me, her silence is deafening.
I have heard some “reasons” why she may not sue if these allogations are false. Let me tell you why you should sue even if it ultimately hurts your campaign. If these are lies, it is no longer about your campaign it is about protecting your family. It’s about your husband and your children. If these are true or not, you do whatever you have to to get these stories out of the press so that your betrayed spouse and children aren’t constantly bombarded with this crap. Her handling of this says a lot about her priorities.
By Shrek May 27, 2010 at 11:21 am
“someone has photographic evidence of them in a compromising sexual position”
If that was true, it would have been news 2 years ago when she was already an elected official and because it would be so unbelievable that such an ugly jackass could bed Nikki Haley that it would have been on the interweb in a nanosecond.
By Michael P. May 27, 2010 at 11:21 am
If Folks doesn’t survive this, at least he has a future writing romance novels.
By PandaChris1 May 27, 2010 at 11:25 am
I want to concur with the posts above by Charlie, Pete and Eddie.
I also want to offer my opinion as to why I think Haley is NOT admitting to this and is taking such chances.
First, she knows she has everything riding on this campaign. When the proof comes out, which it will, she believes she is far enough ahead in the polls to win the primary outright and avoid a runoff. If she is the GOP candidate, she hopes to apologize then and that the state is GOP leaning enough to elect her anyway. At this point, she has NOTHING to gain to admit it now…her best bet is to try to tough it out through the primary.
Second, her backers are PUSHING her to stay on her current course. Those Sanfraudians hitched their wagons to her and are DESPARATE to grab hold of power. They ran the state with Sanford until he imploded last year. McMaster, Bauer and Barrett will NOT roll over and be their bitch boys. From their point of view the following scenarios can play out:
1)Haley wins the primary and the general election…they are back in charge;
2)Haley wins the primary and loses the general to a Dem…they are out of power for 4 years;
3) Any of the other GOP candidates win the primary and general…they are out of power for 8 years.
So the Sanfraudians, who are concerned about their access to power about all else, evaluate the risks and pros and cons and recognize that unless Haley wins, they are facing a LONG time in the political wilderness.
The Sanfraudians do not care about Haley or her family and Folks to them has always just been a means to an end. So in their quest for power, they are pushing Haley on this course. And in her fear and despair, she clings to her story as she sees it as her only chance at political salvation.
For myself, I do not see Haley correcting this until after the primary.
By Joe Peroni May 27, 2010 at 11:27 am
LBJ gathered his advisers together and said, “Put out a rumor that my opponent has sex with his cattle”. When one person cried out, “That’s disgusting!”, LBJ replied, “Yeah, well just make the son of a bitch deny it in public!”
Sounds familiar, doesn’t it, Will?
Will makes a strong accusation, then offers no details, no facts, but plenty of innuendo.
Haley, of course, denies the rumor publicly.
What chickenshit!
By Old Bike Dude May 27, 2010 at 11:30 am
Sic, my man. Pete Strom is a great move. We’ve used him and he’s most effective.
Are any of these photos the result of overpass cameras a la SLED or SCHP?
By libertarian May 27, 2010 at 11:30 am
Evidence? Witnesses? lol. This dog ain’t gonna hunt.
By anonymous May 27, 2010 at 11:30 am
Nikki Haley is the low life scum for not coming clean on the affair.
SCUM …S-C-U-M
Bikini Nikki cannot be trusted whatsoever.
By huh? May 27, 2010 at 11:32 am
Haley’s comments sound like she has visited her sister’s “Believe” house.
By Bocotton Stormfield May 27, 2010 at 11:33 am
Hang in there, Will. You are doing the right thing. Hopefully Nikki will come to her senses and fess up to the whole thing and give this thing some kind of dignified ending. Charlie is absolutely right (and quite astute) about this whole situation. You are (admirably) trying to minimize the damage by releasing just enough to let Haley know that you have all of the e-mail correspondence. Nikki Haley knows whether or not she sent these e-mails to you;and she knows there are plenty more where these came from. I am sure that after today, the Haley camp is petrified, knowing that you have (as any good journalist would) kept all of your correspondence with her. I predict a tearful admission by Nikki Haley before this Mamorial Day weekend is over. What that will do for her ambitions to be the Governor I don’t know, but it will be clear to all concerned that Will is telling the truth. For all of you deluded ones out there who think Will “just made this up out of whole cloth to hurt Nikki” I ask: Why would he destroy South Carolina’s up and coming Republican sweetheart (whom he has supported tooth and nail over the other three candidates) unless he knew he had to come clean to avoid a wider scandal. He gave Haley and her campaign all the room in the world to do the right thing. But they have chosen to do the despicable thing: lie, stonewall and try to destroy Will Folks.
The truth will come out, and it will either be very ugly or minimally invasive. Your move, Nikki.
By Bocotton Stormfield May 27, 2010 at 11:35 am
Pls forgive my typo: Of course it’s MEMORIAL DAY (not mamorial day– a freudian slip, perhaps?)
By seriously? May 27, 2010 at 11:35 am
Greenville Girl – you will still support her even if all of this is true & she has been lying all week?
By Dan May 27, 2010 at 11:36 am
Wow Eddie.. Does “Sic” send you his talking points? Or, more likely, you’re Folks himself pretending to be someone else
By TMZ Cola May 27, 2010 at 11:37 am
Sic: you know what house member (who’s been replaced) put that PI on you and got the picture(s) out of retribution. Nikki knows too!
Stop trying to save Nikki; save yourself and your family! It is obvious she could careless about you and what this is doing to you and your family. She is not the person we all thought she was when we first put her in office six years ago. Your credibility is getting killed trying to protect someone who is very selfish and self centered with little or no regard for those who stand in the way of her ambition. I know it hurts, but look out for the REAL woman standing by your side and kick the other one to the curb.
By NCusedtobeinSC May 27, 2010 at 11:37 am
Will,
I think you’re doing this the right way. Forget the comments, and look at the voting. People really do believe you. I know that you can’t just post a dossier on something that you were unprepared for, and weren’t particularly interested in trying to prove before Haley denied everything. Most people see that.
Everyone else,
1) Will has never denied being an attention whore. In fact, if you’ve read FITS for more than 2 days, you’ll see that he is exactly that. He’s running a business, and that’s part of his shtick. And you know it.
2) Everyone who reads FITS has an axe to grind – a candidate(s) they support. And, we love it when our candidate gets extolled or endorsed by FITS. And, we hate it when our candidate gets slammed. (Will’s slams are not soft.) The reason is that FITS carries weight. The reason it carries weight – is that it/he is a truth-teller regarding conservative, limited government principles.
3) Those slamming Will now are Haley supporters who simply want her to win. Period.
4) Why the release of the stuff little by little?
a-See above. Will had no interest in proving anything about this until Haley denied everything, and started slamming him. So, he likely did not have a collection of stuff to post.
b-I hate lawyers as much as the next guy. But, they’re necessary, and can keep you out of some serious trouble. You all know he’d be an idiot to make a mass release of stuff without protecting himself, his livelihood in the form of FITS, etc.
c-Coming from Will, seeing Haley’s denial and aggressive smears against him, I suspect a little of ole South Carolina: “AAITE! – So that’s the way you wanna play.” Every day that Haley denies will destroy her credibility that much more when she is finally exposed to be not only an adulterer, which most voters have come to be able to forgive – but also a liar, which most voters do not so readily forgive. Wrong play, Haley campaign. Should have worked with Will. Get it out there on your own terms, and then never acknowledge it again. Unless, Haley lied to her husband about it, which is the only reasonable explanation. Very wrong political move, though.
5- Hang on to your hat. It is coming. The proof IS there. Will knows it. And, you do too.
By Joe Blow May 27, 2010 at 11:37 am
Will,
I truly believe you are an asshole for even blowing the whistle on Nikki. Your family knows and have known for a while, so why would you cause problems? I know you and I know that the affair was real. It will come out now whether you cease to publish evidence or not! You should have kept quiet! People cheat everyday and that’s between them and GOD! I hope you are happy as SHE was the best candidate and you quite possibly have ruined it for all of us.
By mypitts2 May 27, 2010 at 11:43 am
FITS is slow-bleeding her. Certainly not the actions of a friend or anyone who ever really cared for her, or her ideas.
By seriously? May 27, 2010 at 11:52 am
Joe Blow – She’s a liar. Personally, I’m glad to know that before I wasted a vote on her.
By Bill Simpson May 27, 2010 at 11:53 am
Not one shred of evidence. The most flimsy innuendo and B/S I have ever seen. The email exchange in my mind proves that there was not an inappropriate relationship. Her reactions and massage seem to be those of someone tryin to comfort a friend – nothing more.
By PandaChris1 May 27, 2010 at 11:53 am
Another observation about the posters on this site regarding this contreversy.
1) Haley supported are going after Folks because they want her to be able to win in 2 weeks rather they think she did this or not.
2)Supporters of the other GOP candidates are pushing him to release it all NOW…trying to intimidate Folks by saying no one believes you..you only have 2 days to get this out, etc….their goal isnt the truth surfacing, rather they want the maximum damage done to Haley before the primary.
3)Assuming that Folks IS telling the truth about the threats to him and his family, he has actually taken the route that would cause the least damage to Haley possible…what I think he didnt anticipate was the overwhelming attack strategy coming from her former friends, the Sanfraudians.
If that picture was taken by a PI investigating Folks (Haley’s involvement was incidental), then it adds credibility to his story that he and/or his family is being threatened. There is NO TELLING what information a PI gathered on Folks that may make this Haley story seem small potatoes by comparision. It seems logical to me that if a PI has a pic of the two of them together, that the same PI could have all kinds of dirt on Folks that is being used to intimidate him.
I think the facts are backing Folks’ story more and more.
By Scarlett May 27, 2010 at 11:56 am
A lot of people seem to be missing the point, Haley could end all this now, right now this very minute. All she has to do is fess up. And all the attention on Folks goes away. He won’t even have that Channel 4′s Beth Brotherton chasing him around anymore.
The silence from the Haley camp is deafening.
By Ratfishtim May 27, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Maybe “Nikki” should purge herslef of all of her sins and go back to using her real name- Nimrata.
“Nikki” may be a cute name to use in high school or college but can you imagine what Nimrata would have said if Barack Obama still went by “Barry?”
By PandaChris1 May 27, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Scarlett,
No one is missing the point that Haley can make it all go away by fessing up now. If she does, she loses everything.
If she tries to hold on and is able to win the primary, THEN she can fess up and hold the state is Obama/dem hating enough to elect her anyway.
She is actually handling this the best way possible for her career and the Sanfraudians. This same approach is not good for her family and definitely not Folks, but if those were her top concerns, the “relationship” would not have happened, anyway.
By huh? May 27, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Some commenters’ defense of “what she does in private does not matter” really pains me. If one can not TRUST another human, then, to me, there is no character. Either one is trustworthy or one is not. Private life and public life can not be separated. If one lies in one area, then one will lie in the other.
I wonder if those who espouse this philosophy would feel the same way if their spouses betrayed them. “Oh, you work hard or we believe in no taxes and small government, so sleeping around is ok by me.”
By Joe Blow May 27, 2010 at 12:05 pm
Seriously? – I know she’s a liar, but they wouldn’t be politicians if they weren’t liars! I’m just saying that Will had no reason to bring this forward, but now that it is she needs to admit it and move on, cuz it will come out now!
By Tricia May 27, 2010 at 12:09 pm
By Kathy on May 27th, 2010 at 9:26 am
Whatever happened (infidelity) should be a matter between the ones involved and their spouse. It should not be held against someone seeking a job, unless it occurs during the term of the job–and within the public building–as in the Clinton affair.
__________________________________________________________________________
Are you serious? I question your moral compass and subsequently anyone who you would cast a ballot for. Clearly you are a Haley supporter. She was in public office, representing her constituents in Lexington. Elected officials should be held to a higher standard. You don’t run for governor and not expect skeletons to come out. You don’t then put out an ad espousing family values when you have none. There are always consequences for cheaters, especially those who lie after the fact to the entire state. Sorry, but that isn’t someone I would want running our state. You need to rethink your standards. Are you also someone who is totally ok with what Sanford embarrassingly put our state through last year? Sorry, but I don’t want to go back to being a joke on Jon Stewart.
By pgrommley421 May 27, 2010 at 12:11 pm
this entire blog is built on shifting sand. whatever Folks thought he was going to get out of this fessin’ up is going to make him look like a singed cartoon character holding a box labeled ACME. political and media career = oVEr. I hope his wife loves him.
By Joe Peroni May 27, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Let’s suppose, even there is no real proof, that Nikki Haley had sex with Will Folks.
What will happen if Nikki Haley takes a page out of Will Folks’ book?
Nikki Haley holds a press conference in Columbia to make a statement about the accusation of Will Folks. With her husband Michael by her side, Nikki Haley looks straight into the cameras and says, “I am here today to say that it is true that I had an inappropriate physical relationship with Will Folks.”
Pregnant pause while the assembled media gasps.
“Will Folks, while alone with me in my office one night”, Nikki Haley sobs, “Pressured me to have sex with him. I was alone, I was afraid, and I knew that Will Folks had been violent with at least one previous girlfriend. Out of fear for my life, I gave in Will Folks’ demand for sex. I did not tell my family or contact law enforcement because I was so deeply humiliated. After what happened in my office, Will Folks pressured me for sex and he suggested that if I did not give in to his demands for sex, that he would go to the press and claim that we had a sexual relationship. In order to prevent my family from enduring such humiliation, I continued to have sex with Will Folks.”
Nikki Haley cries harder and struggles to compose herself.
“I apologize to my loyal husband Michael, my family and the good people of South Carolina for what has happened. I have forgiven Will Folks for what he has done. I can only hope that my husband Michael, my family, and the good people of South Carolina can forgive me. Thank you and God bless you!”
The key to all this is very simple.
Nikki Haley never uses the word “rape” or the word “blackmail”, although her words suggest that she was raped, then blackmailed by Will Folks.
Nikki Haley positions herself as a victim of a man with a history of violence toward women and paints Will Folks as a rapist and blackmailer.
Who would the public believe?
Poor victimized Nikki Haley or Will “Convicted of Domestic Violence” Folks?
It certainly would clear things up for people who wondered why Nikki would have sex with Will…
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I think the problem is twofold:
1. Folks probably doesn’t have quite smoking gun evidence, ie a photo or something like that. He probably has lots of emails, but none of them very explicit. So that is also part of his drip-feed strategy, to present it all in context as best he can to show it happened. I am sure it did, but it won’t be easy to do without very firm evidence because
2. The media are very bad at their jobs. This should have been over yesterday when Pearson admitted the SMS messages posted on this site were real. This story on TPM nearly busted it open but bailed at the last minute:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/haley_camp_confirms_texts_to_blogger_are_real_but.php
Almost everything is in that story – except the killer punch. They got Pearson to confirm the messages were real, and they argued, but not all that forcefully, why his explanation for his messages were implausible if there was no affair. If there was no affair ‘I’m telling you man, we keep this under wraps and nh is going to win’ is not something you SMS as trying to prevent a false rumour airing. There’s nothing to keep under wraps if there was no affair.
This is obvious.
TPM knew it – and they have broken soem good stories – but they didn’t land the killer punch. Which was to put this to Pearson and Haley, repeatedly, or very expressly back Folks and show why they are lying.
If I were working on this story today, that’s what I would do now. Call Haley’s camp and ask to speak to Haley or Pearson, or I’m running the story on why Folks is obviously telling the truth. If the Haley camp claims the emails are false, Folks will prove they’re not. So they will either not comment at all – don’t let them get away with that – or do the same trick they did yesterday, ie claim that they are genuine, but taken out of context, innocent, and Folks is a fantasist. Then you have to follow up the question! If they are real email excerpts, why on earth is Haley comforting Folks? Someone is about to leak a story that you had an affair with him. If you didn’t, why tell him he’ll make it through okay? The story makes no sense.
It’s up to the media to do its job and question the Haley campaign on the obvious implications of this post. If they don’t, Haley may just squeak through it. That’s what she and her campaign are, of course, hoping.
By za May 27, 2010 at 12:27 pm
um, poor choice of words?
“Mounting against Haley”
?????
By joe May 27, 2010 at 12:28 pm
haley’s admission is forthcoming. they’re just giving her memorial day with her family.
By TMZ Cola May 27, 2010 at 12:29 pm
The problem with that scenereo Joe Peroni is that you make her out to be a weak helpless woman and if that is the case, she don’t need to be Governor!
By Scooter May 27, 2010 at 12:31 pm
I am not tired of the truth, and look forward to more. What I am tired of is Nikki’s continued denial in the face of what she knows is proof. And she knows a lot of people know the truth, as she told them, and because she was involved with others. I would not be so dumb as to run for office when I knew I had been inappropriately involved with other people. Shows she should not be in charge of our state. Her misbehavior has come home to bite her. She needs to man up and take the consequences. Will has. (Not often seen, but in this case he has.)I do not like or trust a person who keeps on lying to the people of this state. She knows there are emails, texts, photos, and men who know the facts. They can describe in detail as they were there. I do not care if she fools around, but to lie in the face of proof shows immature and inappropriate behavior. The capital city knows and has known. I bet some people are laughing their heads off at her denials. Others are no doubt scared this will continue to drag on. Tell the truth and spare all the families that will be hurt even more as this continues. And, people who believe her, I am sorry. Don’t put all of your trust in her, you will be disappointed soon. Polygraph, anyone?
By eggaday May 27, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Like I said, Sanfraud in a skirt
By eric dellinger May 27, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Remember Folks…when you put the gun in your mouth tip the barrel up slightly so you create a good splatter effect on the wall behind you.
By misstate May 27, 2010 at 12:32 pm
gonna be a lot of egg on a lot of faces after haley’s presser
folks aint the only one
By Tom Davis May 27, 2010 at 12:38 pm
I also had sex with Will – it was my first (and last) homosexual experience (no one could ever take Will’s place in my heart). I’ll be 60-years old in July and have been blessed with four grown children and a loving wife, they will be shocked to learn of our inappropriate physical relationship.
It’s been reported to me that ‘others’ saw my tan SUV parked near Will’s abode and are willing to swear to it, and I’ve been informed that we were photographed arm-in-arm at the Town House while drunk as ‘cootie brown’.
We also once exchanged drinks at Diane’s on Divine, undoubtedly someone saw our eyes meet that evening.
I feel so soiled, cheap and ashamed … it’s only to protect my family that I’m taking this premptive action, it’s cetainly not to hurt Will in any way. While he’s not much of a kisser that’s not to say he ain’t good with his lips.
I feel awful coming forward but the threats became unbearable. My motives are honorable. Forgive me, darling.
By Scarlett May 27, 2010 at 12:44 pm
TMZ Cola — Bingo, I agree, Haley shouldn’t use the “helpless woman” BS. She would be better off to say something like, “Okay, I may have had an inappropriate physical relationship with Will Folks but I can’t quite remember what we did. See, he slipped me a roofie and everything gets really hazy after that.”
Either that or say she had a really bad drug and alcohol problem during that period of her life, and she really can’t remember anything about Folks’.
I’d about believe either scenario, looking at Folks’, I don’t believe there would be enough liquor to make me want to have sex with him. I’d pass out or throw up first. :-)
By Antoine Dextrose May 27, 2010 at 12:45 pm
No matter what the outcome of this saga, Ms. Haley is guilty of bad taste and judgment in being associated with Folks or Sanford.
Contrary to my vulgar first post, I wish them all well. I am ashamed of what I said. Peoples’ reputations and family relationships are at stake here and there is really nothing funny about it.
By joe May 27, 2010 at 12:53 pm
I disagree.
Stupid people having indiscreet extramarital affaris is almost the definition of funny.
I say funny.
What say ye, blogosphere?
By scooby May 27, 2010 at 12:57 pm
The slow drip of info from loose to tight is a time-honored confession tactic used by law enforcement and PIs. Subjects tend to overestimate the amount of evidence held by the questioner. The idea is to hold back the strongest evidence and try to get a confession with the weaker stuff–to keep the subject guessing. Not that this proves an affair, or that stronger evidence does exist. But it does explain Folks’ tactics, and leave open the possibility that the strongest stuff is still in the pipeline.
By LawSchoolBoy2002 May 27, 2010 at 1:01 pm
OK, so Will has broken the news about Haley-Gate. Word is, Haley is going to admit this whole thing in a press conference tomorrow. Next up, Connor-Gate! Go for it Will. Oh, and how ironic that Honor Connor is capitalizing on Haley-Gate. This site is now flooded with his campaign ads. But, he appears to have taken Fitts off his list of endorsers… HHHHHMMMMMMMMMMM… Seems a little hypocritical, doesn’t it. But, that’s Connor. Do as I say boys, not as I do! He is leader, alright. I just wouldn’t want to be one of his followers, since it is clear he has no direction or moral compass.
By Odie1941 May 27, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Charlie:
Once again – you continue to be a fucking idiot concerning basic electronic VERIFICATION.
IIS logs EXIST ON EVERY MS EMAIL SERVER EXCHANGE. “If” they are purged, that is reflected also, hence why it is called a “master log”
“‘Stay strong. Have faith… I’m sorry for any pain you are having to go through. You will be ok and better for it.’
Folks replied to this email (’I have considered leaving the whole business’), and Haley replied to that:
‘Focus on healing yourself and clearing your mind. It will help you get everything into a realistic perspective. Only then can you make the right decisions for you and your family. You will get through this. I promise.’
Those emails.”
Who the hell knows what and why she was commenting on. Its purposely vague – in the release so a muckraking cunt like yourself can draw a dumbass conclusion and say “see, thats proof” or “what else could they have been talking about”
I have one: maybe she was talking about his lying about his domestic abuse. I have another: maybe his wife realized what a scumbag she married and wanted a divorce… the fact she said “you will be ok AND BETTER FOR IT”
Are you trying to bs people to think she would claim – having an affair with him , while a married polician would “make him better for it”… pleeeeeeasae.
“I also mentioned the SMS messages yesterday, but never confused the two, My point was that as three of the parties have confirmed that those SMS messages were real, despite lots of howls in here about how easy they were to fake, it seems pretty likely these email excerpts are also real.”
Wait – you just said they “were real” and now are saying “it seems pretty likely these are real”. See idiot – you have doubts, because THERE ARE NO VERIFIABLE IIS LOGS. And Haleys camp has said “they are real AND TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT, which you continue to leave out.
“‘And again – where are the verified IIS logs if its email?’
There aren’t any. There wasn’t any evidence the SMS messages he published were real, either, but Pearson, Davenport and Donehue confirmed they were. Again, if these email excerpts are invented, they’re pretty weak, and will get Folks nowhere. Anyone with a brain can see that they’re real, and that the rest of them, if published, would almost certainly show, very clearly indeed, that Haley lied when she said she had not been unfaithful to her husband”
There you go again saying “they are real” You are using tail wag the dog “logic” to continue the meme as “proof” You also admit THE EMAILS ARE WEAK, supported by “if they were invented” Thanks genius – without any verification – you just made the case of how weak they are and hurt Will… which clearly they are, if you are paying attention. BECUASE THEY ARE NOT VERIFIED ELECTRONICALLY WHICH WILL LEND TO CONTEXT.
“If, on the other hand, someone claims to have evidence of something that never happened, you don’t even bother thinking about it, let alone getting into a whole bunch of SMS messages strategizing. If it didn’t happen, they clearly can’t have any evidence for it!”
WTF does that mean? You are still going with tail wag the dog “thinking” – when in fact not one single word “affair, sex, scandal, etc” is used. Cut and Paste SMS text messages, along with 2 emails (that you keep juxtipositioning bewteen) as PROOF.
Have you ever worked in politics? Why in the hell would anyone running for office continue to lower themselves to these accusations – when nothing has been proven. Sounds like her campaign guy was either getting info out of Will, trying to clarify what the “scandal” is about, etc – as in doing his job.
On the flip side – do you remember a politican saying publically “I did not have sex with………………. that women” How did that “denial” work out? Do you remember the current SOS claiming it was “a vast right wing conspiracy???” All bs “cover” – proactively – while trying to get “ahead” of the story.
Haley camp has made a statement done, period. Until any actual shred of proof comes out – you let a scumbag twist in the wind with his bs website, bs followers and bs accusations.
What you are too dumb to realize that Will, through his bumble fuck actions, words, messages, etc is the one getting slayed for both his methods and his so-called “mea culpa”
2 Last notes:
Interesting that the sms text messages are dated presicely to the amount of time sms messages reside on “open” servers. Past this time frame – any sms e-logs are stored within carrier servers and are protected. The only way to retrieve these are through a court order. An accusation by WIll does not warrant a court order – which he knows and is hiding behind, hence the timely release. Now if this idiot had a brain – he would store them (and any info past the 14th) on his SIM card, where they can be retrieved or in a .dat file.
I have said all along – IF Will verified the emails and sms messages, in context via an electronic log Monday FIRST, it would mitigate any question as to if the affair took place. But he purposely didnt – because it would expose the meme and wouldnt allow him to slow drip these bogus, unverified, out of context “messages”.
In any court room – upon discovery – the only valid proof of eletronic communications must be verified by e-logs. Anything else is bs and is neither considered nor is it admissable.
So what does a scumbag do???? Create a story like this cluster fuck. Filled with inuendo, tail wag the dog logic, out of context cut and paste messages… all under the “I want to save my family and Nikki”…
By CAE Native May 27, 2010 at 1:08 pm
She is certainly “hotter” than Jenny Sanford and I can’t say I would blame Will. This behavior is usually a “badge of honor” among Democrats… Can’t understand the uproar. After all, she’s been married long enough to “stray”…usually about five (5) years. Who cares?
By Susan May 27, 2010 at 1:12 pm
No, I mean the excerpts of the two emails mentioned in the article above, you dumb fuck:
‘Stay strong. Have faith… I’m sorry for any pain you are having to go through. You will be ok and better for it.’
Folks replied to this email (’I have considered leaving the whole business’), and Haley replied to that:
‘Focus on healing yourself and clearing your mind. It will help you get everything into a realistic perspective. Only then can you make the right decisions for you and your family. You will get through this. I promise.’
YOU ARE SO Delusional..I mean,,really,,,,,really,,,,,are…WE are so on to you “and” Nikki. Nikki can go blow ..check her numbers on the P&C in Charleston, more than 50 percent polled she deserves this. That is because you are her “friend”.
This was probably after Will was fired from the Governors Mansion for his arrest on beating the hell out of woman and shaking down a car dealer for a free cherry red corvette.
That’s all you got? Like I said a couple of days ago, Nikki and her young cronies conspired with you for this scandal. This woman could care a less how SC looks, no sweat off of her brow. She thinks this will earn her the sympathy vote. Her silence is deafening all except when she told Greenville “you had no evidence”. Her reputation has taken a character hit she will never recover from and you didn’t think that one through.
Will the Evil Shill. Word is on State Newspaper blogs that Will’s current wife is actually a Blow Up Doll purchased off Two Notch Road in the City of Columbia.
Okay..I am deleting this blog from my browser. Will, when you GO BACK to Alvin Detention Center, I may or may not send you money for your canteen account.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5M_Ttstbgs&feature=related
By eric dellinger May 27, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Hopefull Nikki will take a lesson from the Clinton playbook once she’s Governor and have a Vince Foster pulled on Folks.
By Odie1941 May 27, 2010 at 1:15 pm
scooby -
Except for one thing… if you are being questioned – are innocent – the slow drip , “build up” is useless. It is also an “investigation” that you are talking about… this isnt an investigation – this is a public hit job.
And if Will was really doing this to “protect his and her family’s” – you either shut up or come clean with everything. You dont “slow drip” info – you throw it all out there. And for the record – IF ITS TRUE he bumbled everything so poorly – his career is over and the short term “web hits” are short term. IF IT WAS true – and he released actual info, this site would have become the new Drudge. But I dont expect much from the “Appalachiam Trail” idiot, nor do I expect much from arm chair “investigation experts’ through James Patterson books…
By Susan May 27, 2010 at 1:18 pm
I forgot to add, all Nikki the Hickie had to do was go to the court and get a restraining order and have your site shut down and your lips zipped for atleast 10 days. Time to make that happen: 5 mins flat.
She didn’t do that and I know why now. It’s not because she is dumb, she is a GOON who wanted this story more than her husband or children. She is disgusting. And FYI, she looks like a man, FGS~!
That, is my opinion.
By bobby s May 27, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Despite the fact that Folks has said over and over he supports Haley, I don’t buy it.
Think about it. If so, ALL he (and/or she) would have had to do is let the story break and “no comment” all day long. By breaking the story himself, Folks put himself in the position of accusing Haley…setting themselves in opposition to each other. Not something you would do if you “support” her as much as he’s said.
I smell a pay day.
By eric dellinger May 27, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Dammit Susan for a big fat dike you sure have some real anger issue’s.
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Odie, you aren’t reading what I’m writing properly. I have clearly said that the SMS messages are real – as they have been confirmed by the participants! – and that that means the email messages are likely to be. You’re right that there’s no electronic verifcation on either. There doesn’t need to be. Pearson and the others have confirmed the SMS messages are real. And Haley knows the emails are real. Folks has not posted to convince us that he has evidence, but to convince her. He wants her to fess up before he reveals everything. If she denies that these emails are real, he can prove they are and she’s out.
That’s as far as I’m discussing it with you, though, because you’re just screaming abuse at me and not reading what I’m writing. But, for the record, I’m not on Folks’ ‘side’. He’s clearly a sleazy guy. He’s not running for public office, though, and it’s clear from the SMS messages that Haley’s campaign manager sent him, and which he has admitted he did to CNN, that Folks and Haley were involved. Explain the SMS messages otherwise. He claims he sent these messages, but that he was just trying to stop a fake story coming out. Read the SMS messages again and claim that with a straight face.
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 13, 2010 2:55 PM
I just don’t know who has told more people, you or Nikki.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 13, 2010 3:21 PM
I am getting a lot of buzz about the me/nikki rumor today. Word is donehue is behind it.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 13, 2010 3:26 PM
I am too. Free times apparently called some legislators. Assuming it’s hutchins.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 13, 2010 3:29 PM
Can you fuck donehue up?
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 13, 2010 5:01 PM
Here my promise to you, man to man. If you tell me that a story will fuck up your marriage, I’ll do everything in my power to kill it.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 13, 2010 5:33 PM
Sorry – took longer than I thought. What are you hearing?
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 13, 2010 5:54 PM
Free times
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 10:20 AM
We need to talk.
—— SMS ——
From Will Folks
To: Wes Donehue
Sent: May 14, 2010 10:24 AM
You’ve already rolled the dice.
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 10:25 AM
Actually, I haven’t.
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 10:36 AM
Now, I don’t give a fuck of you believe me or not. Your the one who screwed her. You’re the one who bragged about it. She’s the one who told BJ. Yall point fingers at your own damn selves and leave me the fuck out of it.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 11:10 AM
All good?
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 14, 2010 11:12 AM
He seems to be backing down, yeah. Dunno if that kills it or what.
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 11:50 AM
I’m going to try to kill it. You need to get BJ to back down. Nothing good will come of this getting out. I’ve already helped bust up one family. No need to take down another one.
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 12:28 PM
I didn’t start this. I just told too many people that it was happening.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 1:05 PM
Tks for your help this am.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 14, 2010 1:11 PM
Subject: Sure.
Sure. I still think he ends up running something
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 1:12 PM
Really … Interesting.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 14, 2010 1:20 PM
Word I hear is that wes is shopping an affidavit
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 1:21 PM
Ah. My initial thought is if it aint from you or nh then its a tough sell
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 14, 2010 1:40 PM
Mine too … But …
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 2:39 PM
Hearing hutchens will be at statehouse and trying to ask nh the question. Just a heads up if you’re there.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 14, 2010 2:42 PM
Gotcha
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 4:22 PM
I think it’s stopped.
—— SMS ——
From: Jim Davenport
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 7:31 PM
What is this stuff about ur having an affair with Nikki Haley?
Jim Davenport-AP_ 803-917-9562
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Jim Davenport
Sent: May 14, 2010 7:32 PM
?
—— SMS ——
From: Jim Davenport
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 7:33 PM
Call. Talk.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Jim Davenport
Sent: May 14, 2010 7:39 PM
Can’t talk right now. You are not writing on this are you?
—— SMS ——
From: Jim Davenport
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 7:40 PM
Supposedly someone is. Just chasing tip.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 14, 2010 7:37 PM
Davenport is texting me asking about this now. WTF? Did something happen at Palin event?
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 15, 2010 11:58 AM
Davenport calling again.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 15, 2010 2:10 PM
Ok. Keep me posted.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 15, 2010 2:20 PM
What you thinking?
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 15, 2010 2:48 PM
His mssg said “you know why I am calling”
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 15, 2010 2:57 PM
I think we both deny it. I think an affadavit is something we can beat down. Legally and politically.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 15, 2010 2:58 PM
I’m telling you man, we keep this under wraps and nh is going to win.
——-Missed Call———–
Date: 5/17/2010 1:13p
Duration: 0:00
From: Nikki Haley
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 17, 2010 1:41 PM
I talked to oconnor. Feel a little better abt things. Will call later.
—— SMS ——
From Will Folks
To: Nikki Haley
Sent: May 17, 2010 2:43 PM
FYI … I’m denying any report that I said anything to anyone and refusing to dignify politically-motivated rumors with a response.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:05 PM
Barrett source says “beware tonight’s debate” to me.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:06 PM
Hmm. What do u think that means?
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:07 PM
No way barrett brings something up himself. That’s insane.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:08 PM
I don’t know what it means. Once again donehue reported to be the instigator
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:08 PM
Mother fucker.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:10 PM
Moderator is judi gatson. She won’t do anything to hurt Nikki.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:13 PM
Davenport stop calling you?
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:15 PM
Yes. Hasn’t called since sunday.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:16 PM
Cool. We’ll keep truckin.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 19, 2010 8:03 AM
Nothing in the FT
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 19, 2010 8:04 AM
Yup. Saw that this AM. WHEW!
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:08 PM
Howre things?
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:29 PM
Fucking nuts. People saying davenport story is imminent. I am honestly losing my mind a little.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:31 PM
I’m hearing buzz abt it too. But I don’t think he has anything. He hasn’t called you recently?
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:32 PM
He has not.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:32 PM
What did your lawyers say?
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:34 PM
I think right now they’re just trying to create a shitload of buzz.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:44 PM
I just talked to jim abt polling. No mention of it. Story aint that imminent. Can relax for today.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 7:29 PM
I hear ya.
Hang in there. We are gonna win this thing man.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 20, 2010 7:32 PM
I believe it. I don’t even think this breaking (under these circumstances) would stop her.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 7:48 PM
Sometimes people get it right.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 21, 2010 6:55 AM
My sources indicate Hutchins is running next week (possibly cover) and Davenport is trying to beat him to the punch.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 6:55 AM
Ok. Tks.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 6:57 AM
How much do you believe that source?
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 21, 2010 7:19 AM
I don’t know what to believe at this point
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 21, 2010 7:23 AM
Also I am a little disturbed by the anonymous threats about releasing “proof” within 48 hrs
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 7:40 AM
What anonymous threats?
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 21, 2010 7:49 AM
Comments on FITS. Consistent w intel I am getting regarding wesley working it still
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 8:01 AM
Don’t sweat the small stuff. Anonymous comments aren’t shit. They have been digging on this for a year.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 21, 2010 8:07 AM
I am not sweating the comment. I am sweating it being consistent w what I am hearing regarding the barrett people.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 8:10 AM
I know desperation is the mother of all invention – but I feel like whatever they come up with will be manufactured – and transparently so.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 21, 2010 2:46 PM
Sources telling me wes is bragging about a pciture.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 2:48 PM
I dunno man. I think they’re just trying to get someone to jump. This is like the 4th diff kind of evidence he’s claimed to have.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 2:48 PM
If he has a pic its very new … I just don’t buy it.
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 3:30 PM
If you’re calling about Haley, don’t. If I wanted her gone I would have already done it.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Wes Donehue
Sent: May 21, 2010 3:31 PM
Dude I am just trying to act in a way that will protect my family
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 3:36 PM
Your family and Nikkis kids are the ONLY reason I haven’t acted. It sure as fuck ain’t the threats.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 22, 2010 1:08 PM
Yes or I will text you. Nikki knows about the picture from last year. Bottom line I don’t know that they don’t have it. That threat has been made.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 22, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: Ok. Call me.
Ok. Call me. I’ll step away from where I am.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 22, 2010 5:50 PM
Ok. Call me as soon as you can. I’m with michael and nikki so as soon as I’m back in the car I can’t talk. Need to chat before she sees davenport.
By Julie May 27, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Somebody better check out REDSTATE Blog Interesting update
By Susan May 27, 2010 at 1:24 pm
See this is the problem with FITS and Will Folks, he has no/shady character and no one wants to be seen in public with him. All those who claim to be Law School Graduates here don’t have a clue how important above reproach character is in this state or anywhere, for that matter and that is sad and scary. Why in the world would you be friends with a man who beats his women? I mean, really…?????? Doesn’t make any sense. You think FITTS is all that, wow, boy, you will find out soon, he is NOTHING.
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char·ac·ter [kárr?kt?r]
(plural char·ac·ters)
n
1. distinctive qualities: the set of qualities that make somebody or something distinctive, especially somebody’s qualities of mind and feeling
It’s just not in my character to behave that way.
2. positive qualities: qualities that make somebody or something interesting or attractive
an old house full of character
3. reputation: somebody’s public reputation
an attack on his good character that ended in court
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None of the central characters is particularly likable.
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[14th century. Via French caractère < Greek kharakt?r "tool for marking" < kharassein "engrave" < kharax "pointed stake"]
in or out of character typical or untypical of the behavior of a particular person or thing involved or not involved in the psychological preparations for acting out a particular role in a play, movie, or other dramatic work
By Lungker May 27, 2010 at 1:24 pm
All Will need to do next is to describe a certain feature of her body, eg. a well hidden tattoo or a scar or a bodymark, that is not known to the public and this will be headlines again on Tuesday.
By Max May 27, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Evidence hasn’t been presented because it doesn’t exist.
The trickle effect he has going is designed to soak up attention for as long as possible.
I mean what danger were you in from the press? You claim this happened before you met your wife, so in what way would this damage you or her? Your wife gets mad that you slept with other women before you met her? Huh? Wha?
If you had evidence you would’ve put in on the table on Day 1 and proved Haley a liar. Instead, you have nothing, just a lot of hogwash about trying to obtain evidence that you should already have.
Linda Tripp had a phone recording and a stained dress on Day 1. What to you have slick? Nada, zip, zilch, zero.
I’m more inclined to believe you did this to build sympathy for Haley, and perhaps you two even cooked it up together. But an actual affair? Sorry bub, hot chicks don’t cheat with fat, bald, wife-beaters. They tend to go for the UPS guy or the pool boy, but the old, fat, bald types are usually left out. If you’re gonna risk your family and career, you do it with Brad Pitt, not Will freakin’ Folks.
By bobby s May 27, 2010 at 1:26 pm
By the way, Henry Mac has the same kind of “problem” floating around out there…(to which Democrat operatives have proof, including voice mails).
By Andy May 27, 2010 at 1:26 pm
I’ve always tried, as best I can, to tell the truth about stuff. I’m no saint, just a guy who found out early in life that it gets too freakin complicated to tell lies. There comes a point where you have to start telling lies to cover up the lies and there’s the always unreliable other people who know about the lies and upon whose silence you must depend. That part rarely works, if ever. And liars have this kind of sorry-ass look about them, know what I mean? Like they’ve been hit with a shit storm and don’t know how to wash it off.
My Momma, wise woman that she was, taught me something when I was very young. With lies you can always move ahead but you can never go back.
By Max May 27, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Contrast this with Drudge and Lewinsky, Drudge put everything on the table as soon as he had the goods, he didn’t slow walk us with hollow evidence and promises. Folks has failed, and has ruined his life in the process.
By Skidmarks May 27, 2010 at 1:29 pm
It happened.
Sanford fessed up and self-emolated.
Nikki isn’t going down that trail.
By Jane May 27, 2010 at 1:30 pm
To all the people writing comments about the way Folks looks–GET A LIFE! You are all just hatin’ cause you can’t get any.
By Looks like Haley wore the pants May 27, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Geez…is it just me or does Will seem wimpy? I feel like the “male” of the relationship was Haley.
What a wimpy dude….I should have guessed considering how quickly he “caved” to the pressure…aside from the fact he obviously “gossiped” like a bitch about his dalliances with Haley.
He’s basically a bitch with balls…sad.
By mypitts2 May 27, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Red State’s Erick Erickson is claiming he knows who paid Will Folks to make this claim. He is also saying he will drag the story out, FITS-style.
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/05/27/breaking-we-know-who-did-it/
By TomatoFarmer May 27, 2010 at 1:42 pm
1) Sic and Charlie sound like the same person, must be related or attended the same creative writing class
2) Being a farmer the only law I understand is contract law and maybe a little about futures. How about one of you big city lawyers offer an opinion here. Does NH’s husband have grounds for an alienation of affection claim against someone openly and repeatedly claiming to have contributed to the failure of their marriage, should such a failure occur?
By SC_Moderate May 27, 2010 at 1:43 pm
For starters, if this happened 3 years ago, it seems odd that the two have been able to remain such casual friends since then.
Also, I would be interested in what Haley was working on in 2007, because to me- the emails sound more like Folks was likely helping Nikki with a political matter… and she offering counciling to him on a personal matter he was dealing with…
she says “you will get through this” … “will be stronger because of”, etc. etc.
She didn’t say “we” will get through this. You think she would be a little more startled if she thought someone had evidence of an affair with her. (And my bet is her husband is aware of whatever she was working on in 2007, and knows she is being honest able the situation).
Maybe I’m nieve, (and I actually want Sheheen to win at this point although I was most impressed by Haley and Bauer in te debate)- But I don’t think any politician or public servant should have their personal life upended (lie or truth) if it is not affecting their job (ie leaving the country without telling anyone, etc).
By Richard Wilson May 27, 2010 at 1:48 pm
So Will…….you’re still not talking, huh?
DOUCEBAG!!
By geegee May 27, 2010 at 1:49 pm
This is getting ridiculous….”stay tuned”…. No, actually I won’t stay tuned…this sophmoric,he said-she said bs is tiring my ass…
By Bough May 27, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Alas, everyone in SC knows Redstate is lying. It is sad that they have gone so far in for Haley. She is using their credibility and it is going to sting them.
By mypitts2 May 27, 2010 at 1:50 pm
I confess that I love SC politics, from the Luv Guv, to Joe “You Lie!” Wilson to Jim “Waterloo” DeMint. I’m in North Carolina and have often wondered what the heck is going on down there.
And then there’s Lindsey Graham — how the hell did he happen?
Now, Nikki Haley and this Folks fella. This is as good as the Super Bowl.
By mypitts2 May 27, 2010 at 1:53 pm
“It is sad that they have gone so far in for Haley.”
Bough: You may recall that Erickson went “all-in” for Sanford, too:
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/06/23/the-lessons-of-mark-sanfords-hike/
He might be wise to feed South Carolina pols with a long-handled spoon from now on (as my pops would say).
By Nicki May 27, 2010 at 1:55 pm
I hope Nikki admits, so we all can move on. Yes, she had made mistakes. For the inappropriate relationship, it is a private matter which she and her family will need to resolve and heal; it is not related to her political view on how to lead our state. For the denial, it is a very poor judgement and indicates much more troublesome characters. It is easier to forgive a private inappropriate matter than to forgive a liar, since we must be able to trust our leader. However, we all made mistakes and hopefully we learned from it. Many of us believe that she is the best candidate in this primary. She just needs to show that she is able to admit mistakes, be honest, and use best judgement when handling crisis. Surely governor has to make many important decisions- and some could turn out to be a bad one. We need the governor that can take responsibilities for the good and the bad. We are willing to give Nikki that chance, but we need to be able to know that she is strong enough to handle crisis and take responsibilities.
By SC_Moderate May 27, 2010 at 1:57 pm
The emails could mean just about anything……….
Senario: “They were looking for dirt on (Folks)”
Folks wrote Haley:
“I pray you escape all this,”
(In other words, they are trying to find dirt on me, I hope they don’t also try to make up false allegations about us)
Haley’s Reply/ advice:
“Stay strong. Have faith” … “I’m sorry for any pain you are having to go through. You will be ok and better for it.” … “Focus on healing yourself and clearing your mind,” … “It will help you get everything into a realistic perspective. Only then can you make the right decisions for you and your family. You will get through this. I promise.”
(This advice in no way seems like what you would sent to the person you had an affair with- the advice is complete focused on telling Folks he will work out whatever he is dealing with- never a mention of any strife of Haley).
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 1:57 pm
But attacking Folks doesn’t change anything. It doesn’t matter if he’s a wife-beater, ugly, weedy, was paid to do this, isn’t providing the evidence fast enough and is doing it to get traffic, doesn’t satisfy people’s morals, or kicks dogs for fun.
He’s not running for office on a family values platform and denying he has been unfaithful.
All that matters here is whether or not Haley was unfaithful with Folks or not. The SMS messages show to anyone with a functioning brain that Haley’s campaign manager was aware of the rumour and convinced it was a threat. He has confirmed he sent those messages.
If you think it’s more likely that Pearson was just hoping to keep ‘under wraps’ an afair that never happened and that Folks has somehow invented all this than that a self-righteous moralizing politician has lied about their infidelity, please send money to my account so I can then unlock the remaining 25 million dollars owed to you from the Bank of Lagos.
By Eddie May 27, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Interesting that Redstate’s breaking news about Sic’s benefactor appeared just above a Nikki Haley add asking you to contribute to her campaign.
By No Name May 27, 2010 at 2:03 pm
Charlie is Rod Shealy and he has simply published everything you need to know about the dynamics of all this.
Nuff said….sorry Nikki…the job sucks anyway….no pun intended.
Next up Gresham.
By Red State Newbie May 27, 2010 at 2:09 pm
S.C. Rep. Nikki Haley
You are a good conservative Will. Madison avenue could not promote Nikki better than you have. You could show the esteemed Rep. in a bikini?
By eric dellinger May 27, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Nikki….just please tell me you didn’t put that nasty thing in your mouth.
By Sara M May 27, 2010 at 2:15 pm
There is no possible way for Nikki Haley to “come clean” at this point without destroying her career entirely. She made a CATEGORICAL denial: 100% fidelity. There is no wiggling out of that one. Any sort of physical relationship outside of marriage means something less than 100% fidelity; I think most people would agree.
It’s not the deed; it’s the denials that’ll likely do her in. (Politicians never seem to learn this.)
Haley’s supporters had better hope she is 100% clean. Personally, I wouldn’t bet on it.
By Susan May 27, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Now, now Will, why did you delete my last two posts when they were so helpful and newsworthy? You don’t usually delete posts, do you Will?
On a side note, why did you move your “office” out of the At&t Building over three years ago? Care to comment?
Breaking News
Witnesses, Evidence Mounting Against Will Folks @ Fitsnews.com
By Teddy May 27, 2010 at 2:18 pm
We should just go ahead and elect a Dem Governor and then purge the SCGOP of all these scumbag consultants like Donehue and the like.
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 2:18 pm
I’m not Rod Shealy. I don’t know Will Folks, or any of these people. I came here because I read about it somewhere, and am interested in it just as I was interested in Sanford, George Rekers, and other political messes. It’s fun to watch hypocrites get their just desserts. I’m ashamed of how poorly the media are operating with this story. If I was anywhere near this, it would be over by now, believe me. But I don’t write political stuff, and have no stake in SC. So I’m just a commenter on this blog.
SC_Moderate, you are not getting the point. Sure, the emails could mean anything… to us. Not to Nikki Haley, though, because she knows what is in the rest of the messages. Folks is just signalling that he has found the messages, and quoting relatively harmless parts to prove it to her. The message is: ‘Admit it, or I have to force you to by publishing the rest.’
You – and more particularly the media! – need to look at this logically.
Yesterday, Folks published lots of SMS messages. All the people involved have confirmed they sent them. They point very clearly to long-term efforts to uncover this story; that Folks and Haley’s campaign were both aware of those long-term efforts; that Folks was worried that this time someone might have something; that Haley’s campaign manager was worried, but not as much, because he felt that it was a bluff and if they had something they would have shown it by now. Both also felt that Haley might ride through it regardless – a touching moment when Pearson says that ‘sometimes people make the right choice’. If you can read that SMS chain and believe that Pearson thought the story was fake, you’re a fool. If he thought it was fake, why not ask Folks? If Folks said yes, it’s fake, fine… let them publish and we sue. If Folks said no, it’s true, Haley and I had a thing, well… clearly Folks had already said that.
That SMS chain has been confirmed by the participants. Logically, it is very unlikely that Folks yesterday presented a lot of material which was confirmed by the participants as being real, and then today presented some invented email excerpts that don’t even present the whole case.
Just think the thing through. Haley is lying, and hoping Folks doesn’t have enough to bring her down. The media are simply useless. About the only thing Sarah Palin has ever got right. In an among the name-calling, abuse and trolling, there’s still more astute political analysis in these comments than there are in an hour on CNN.
By Susan May 27, 2010 at 2:19 pm
“He’s not running for office on a family values platform and denying he has been unfaithful.”
Bahahahaha…true. Thanks for the reminder, he is NOTHING.
By AnotherFineMess May 27, 2010 at 2:21 pm
If Charlie is Rod Shealy, then the pot just called the kettle black. Mr. Shealy is the most notorious promoter of “sleazy” politicians in this state. Mr. Folks could not hold a candle to Rod Shealy when it comes to dirt.
By libertarian May 27, 2010 at 2:24 pm
The latest Redstate article doesn’t say the story is false. It says they know who paid Folks to go forward it.
By Susan May 27, 2010 at 2:25 pm
But attacking Folks doesn’t change anything. It doesn’t matter if he’s a wife-beater, ugly, weedy, was paid to do this, isn’t providing the evidence fast enough and is doing it to get traffic, doesn’t satisfy people’s morals, or kicks dogs for fun.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Heads UP..here is one for you to consider: Will Folks made a video where he wished to punch Nikki Haley in the face with his fist. It is in the
hands of those higher than anyone who pulled this woman’s beaters strings.
He is fair game, LITTLE KIDS, you want to play with FIRE, you just may get burnt in the end. Wah wah wah wah….
By Paul May 27, 2010 at 2:29 pm
There is only one undisputed fact in all of South Carolina:
Lindsey Graham never had sex with Nikki Haley.
By xkeez May 27, 2010 at 2:31 pm
Hey Sicky Willy spill the Scheiß, yeah you are a hunk, we know, but i can’t take it any longer. Let the Scheiß come out!
http://www.xkeez.com
By Amicus May 27, 2010 at 2:39 pm
I think Susan and eric dellinger make a cute couple!
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 2:40 pm
But, libertarian, I’m not Rod Shealy. I’d never heard of him before that post.
Susan, you can rub your hands with glee and scream abuse at Folks all you want, but you are still utterly missing the point. Haley is running for office. And she’s the one who will come down. It doesn’t matter what Folks has done, what videos he’s made, if he’s a scumbag, a blood-sucking vampire, a child-molester or owns multiple copies of Avril Lavigne’s first album. All that matters here is whether or not Haley was unfaithful to her husband with him. If he has skeletons in his closet, that will look bad for him, too, but that is not the issue, however much you want it to be. He could be a serial liar, but no matter what anyone screams about him here or elsewhere, if he’s telling the truth about this and is prepared to keep presenting more evidence for it, Haley is toast.
As he is quite obviously telling the truth about this and is prepared to keep presenting more evidence for it, Haley is toast.
By Susan May 27, 2010 at 2:41 pm
“It doesn’t matter”
YES, it DOES. So sad you didn’t know that.
By MrShasta May 27, 2010 at 2:42 pm
“She made a CATEGORICAL denial: 100% fidelity”
Sara M, I have to disagree with you here. What she said was that she had been 100% faithful. Now what you consider 100% faithful, what Nikki thinks it means, and what I think it means, can be quite different.
In her own mind she may in fact think she was faithful. That could mean he knew and did not care, he knew and encouraged her, she did “some” stuff but not that “other” stuff. And she did not do the “other” stuff because she did not want to cross a line.
Folks has never made a claim that they had sexual intercourse. And she has never exactly said there was no sexual or physical contact.
Does this all matter? Sadly it must. I do know any of the people involved. And I sure do not care about their sex life. Other than the fact that this has turned into a great story. Why we care who boops who is beyond me. But when the stories do break they are hard to resist.
Family values? What a joke that has become. The flag standard for stupid people.
How about lets all mind our own business and stay out of other peoples sex lives.
By MrShasta May 27, 2010 at 2:43 pm
“I do NOT know any of the people involved”
Sorry
By Susan May 27, 2010 at 2:43 pm
http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes/
By Kung Pow Warrior May 27, 2010 at 2:44 pm
The agonzingly slow release of information defeats all of CDV Willie’s claimed purposes for fessing up in the first place. I can’t imagine that people will continue to check his website much longer when we can just go to TheState.com and get the latest without all of his B.S.
By Sara M May 27, 2010 at 3:00 pm
So Redstate is now saying that they know who’s paying Folks for breaking this story.
I have no idea whether Folks was bought or not. But if he was, that tells me he has something to sell.
By mypitts2 May 27, 2010 at 3:01 pm
“The latest Redstate article doesn’t say the story is false. It says they know who paid Folks to go forward it.”
libertarian: Not an unimportant detail, in my opinion.
By mypitts2 May 27, 2010 at 3:09 pm
“Now what you consider 100% faithful, what Nikki thinks it means, and what I think it means, can be quite different.”
Ha. How very Clintonesque. She won’t go that route. If she did do Folks, and someone comes up with solid proof, she’ll throw herself on the mercy of the court of public opinion and slog through. From what I know of the other candidates, she still has a good shot, either way. This drip, drip, drip does her no favors, however.
By Cory Truax May 27, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Any comment on the Red State post, saying they know that Folks is being paid to push the story?
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/05/27/breaking-we-know-who-did-it/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
By Catherine May 27, 2010 at 3:11 pm
@ huh?, Dude, your ignorance is showing. You might want to cover that up when you’re out in public. The truth of the matter is that MOST of the legislators in this state are not monogamous. And MOST are married, so you do the math. I don’t care if they all smoke crack during an orgy on the chamber floor as long as they don’t raise my god damn taxes. So I’m voting for Nikki Haley, because she can be anything she wants, including a pathetic cliche, as long as she continues to adhere to and advocate for the fiscally conservative ideals that she currently espouses.
By Philip Branton May 27, 2010 at 3:11 pm
Look OUT……!!!!
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/may/27/haley-says-folks-claims-not-worth-her-time-energy/
By SC_Moderate May 27, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Charlie- It we choose to view this through a logical scope (logic is often not very relevant in scandals), then why would Haley 100% deny the allegations if she knew there was irrefutable evidence. And if someone is hold a proverbial knife to Folks to release the story, it wouldn’t matter if she thought he may not go through with releasing everything.
So either there really is clear irrefutable evidence (not the texts we have seen thus far) and she is in big political trouble… or there is no absolutely clear evidence and she has a good chance at the nomination.
I still think these ambiguous codec texts, along with the timeline, in no way prove anything, other than she was aware of a tough situation Folks was going through & that she may get falsely accused of something because of their friendship or working relationship. If I am wrong- I will certainly say so, but often the logical explanation is the incorrect one in these type of scenarios.
By Cady May 27, 2010 at 3:18 pm
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/37867.html
Blogger: Nikki Haley Story ‘ain’t up to me.’
Sorry Will, but now it is up to you to prove it. You don’t get off the hook this easy. And nope, you can’t blame it on your lawyers. One of the two of you are going down in flames. It’s your choice. Frankly I can’t stand either of you, so whatever happens is still a win/win. It’s looking like you are DONE. Hope you are making enough money off your hits right now to last you and your family for quite awhile. You can start up a new band now. Good luck!
By mypitts2 May 27, 2010 at 3:29 pm
The Post and Courier asking Haley to reveal the emails carries a lot more weight than FITS asking for them. When a pol ducks the mainstream press, voters might see that as evasive.
And check out the Democrat:
“Let him among you without sin cast the first stone.”
That’s rich! How Biblical. Who says the parties can’t get along?
By mypitts2 May 27, 2010 at 3:31 pm
“then why would Haley 100% deny the allegations if she knew there was irrefutable evidence.”
SC_Moderate: Why did Clinton wag that finger and lie? Why did Edwards and Sanford lie? Why do they all lie?
They don’t think there is irrefutable evidence, until they discover that there is. They tell foolish lies b/c they are caught in embarrassing circumstances they believe they can wheedle themselves out of.
By rb May 27, 2010 at 3:36 pm
I said it before and I’ll say it again….Folks is either a liar or a snitch and nobody likes either one.
If his allegations are true, I’m very disappointed in Haley…she could do much better than Folks.
I have to laugh as every article refers to Folks are “our founding editor”. Editor of what? A political version of TMZ? What a clown he is.
By seriously? May 27, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Either she thinks there is no concrete evidence or she has bigger balls than I thought.
By YVETTE May 27, 2010 at 3:42 pm
An old SC saying, “where there is smoke, there is fire.” At least that is what my grandma used to say. She was the wife of a southern Baptist preacher.
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 3:49 pm
SC_Moderate, I think I already answered that – she doesn’t think Folks has enough hard evidence and intends to bluff her way through. I think it’s close, because I think Folks probably has a mountain of circumstantial evidence, and the media is sitting on its thumbs and not putting 2 and 2 together.
Forget the emails between Haley and Folks in this post, and just look at yesterday’s SMS messages. If you want to have a reasonable discussion about this with me, as you seem to at the moment, then please offer a plausible explanation for them. Don’t say Folks made them up, because Pearson, Donehue and Davenport have all confirmed they wrote the messages.
So they are real. Are they the whole story? Clearly not.
Are they in context? Maybe not.
Can they possibly be messages from Haley’s campaign manager trying to dampen down a story he thinks has no substance? They can’t be. They’re messages to the guy allegedly involved! If Pearson thought the story was false, he only needs to ask Haley and Folks. If they tell him it’s false, he is not going to be asking Folks if he can ‘fuck up’ Donehue, texting him every ten minutes to check the status of the story, reassuring Folks that Donehue has threatened he has evidence of this before and people have been digging for a year but still have nothing, saying if they keep it äunder wrap’ Haley will win, that he can talk more when he’s out of the car with Haley and her husband, or pretty much anything else he wrote in the messages he confirmed to CNN he wrote, but which the media are too weak-willed or weak-brained to understand.
Pearson claims he sent the messages but was just trying to damp down a false story. If he had been told by Folks and Haley it was false and believed them, he would simply have told Folks he obviously had nothing to worry about, Haley neither, nobody can have evidence of something that didn’t happen, and if they manufacture evidence of that all parties will deny it and they will sue.
Explain to me how the SMS messages could possibly show anything other than that Haley’s campaign manager knew about the affair.
It’s all you need to know about this, and all the media need to force a confession from Haley. As that would garner them the most headlines, and also coincidentally be the moral path to take, I conclude they haven’t done it because they simply aren’t good enough journalists to realize they can do it, and how they can do it. Any decent journalist would have forced Haley’s confession from this by now.
By WasteOtime May 27, 2010 at 3:51 pm
This is clearly a made up story, but wanted to respond to the idiotic comments surrounding IIS.
‘And again – where are the verified IIS logs if its email?’
IIS stands for Internet Information Services – it’s Microsoft’s web server, and NOT and email server. IIS log files record details surrounding individual page and resource requests to a web site.
MS Exchange is an email server – it does NOT create logs of incoming and outgoing messages.
By eric dellinger May 27, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Amicus….I was thinking the same thing. But it would never work out because of her anger issue’s. Angry dikes scare me.
By Inga May 27, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Mr. Folks,
I am following this story as you lay it out. Unfortunately, the more “evidence” you provide, the grayer everything still remains. It seems that your past and the way you are letting this play out are undermining your credibility. Things do not look good for you at this point, even if you release more “evidence”. You need a third party to come forward and corroborate what you are saying if Haley will not come forward.
At this point, I imagine hind site is 20/20. Even though The Free Times released their article, the majority of other media and people are not inclined to believe the rumors. You could have declined to comment to the public and confessed to your wife, if this happened. With you taking up the burden to prove what The Free Times insinuated, it has turned against you because obviously many people don’t take you that seriously to begin with.
I sort of feel bad for you because at this point it seems that no matter which way you go, you will lose in the end. If you had declined to comment publicly initially, but talked with your wife, this thing would have blown over.
If Haley is a Christian and she did this, I imagine guilt will eat at her in the end and she will admit to lying about it, but it might be later down the road when whatever is left of your reputation is already gone and she has moved into whatever position she is fighting for at the time.
You did what you felt was your part in verifying the affair rumor, I’m not sure if it would help your family to disclose details just to try and prove yourself further when it’s obvious many do not want to take your evidence seriously. I say this because I feel like at this point you are letting your manly “pride” drive your decisions, but it might be more honorable for your family for you to just stop here. God knows what the truth is. You and Haley know what the truth is. Your wife should know what the truth is. Let justice work itself out by a third party, that way a very limited amount of evidence would likely be released versus you feeling the need to divulge all that you have.
Remember this last thing. When we reach the bottom, we can go no direction but up.
Sincerely,
Inga
By Odie1941 May 27, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Charlie -
I have no idea why reprinting the very sms messages I have read will change anything – but smart to back down on the “proof” meme, for there is none. And my reading isnt the problem – its the bull shit you are trying to spew, based on bullshit ineundo. See, if you have trouble keeping up – but finally admitted – there is no electronic proof. What you fail to admit – the proof is accessable – he is choosing not to throw it out there.
But I will play along:
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 13, 2010 2:55 PM
I just don’t know who has told more people, you or Nikki.
*Hmm. So we are to beleive both Will and Nikki are blabbing about the so-called “affair” Or could it be……anything under the sun – because clearly the subject of message thread isnt included. FAIL.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 13, 2010 3:21 PM
I am getting a lot of buzz about the me/nikki rumor today. Word is donehue is behind it.
*Now go back to the previous message – Donehue is now supposidly behind a rumor, though he is saying “I dont know who told more..” does that sound like a guy breaking a rumor talking to guy who is PART OF THE RUMOR??
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 13, 2010 3:26 PM
I am too. Free times apparently called some legislators. Assuming it’s hutchins.
*Now wait a minute. WTF would a “rumor” of an affair go to the legislators??? Huh? Sounds more like a governing issue. Policy, law, graft, who knows – but the “legislators” would not be the next step in “research” from Free Times. DOUBLE FAIL
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 13, 2010 3:29 PM
Can you fuck donehue up?
*On face value – who knows what this means. Backstabbing, whatever – but again – since we dont have the message thread – we have no idea what this is in reference too. FAIL
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 13, 2010 5:01 PM
Here my promise to you, man to man. If you tell me that a story will fuck up your marriage, I’ll do everything in my power to kill it.
* Sounds like this guy is trying to help, concerning a RUMOR not PROOF, hence “story”. Now again – if this “story” is a) true, b) referring to him being single when he supposidely had the “affair” – how would his marriage be effected and wtf would he talk, by proxy – to someone else about his marriage??? And why did Pearson previously ask WIll “can you fuck him up??”
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 13, 2010 5:33 PM
Sorry – took longer than I thought. What are you hearing?
*See below
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 13, 2010 5:54 PM
Free times
*Again – last message in the thread – no idea what they are talking about – and oddly enough – no other message is given. Am I to believe Pearson didnt respond to the very question he asked??? FAIL
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 10:20 AM
We need to talk.
*About what?
—— SMS ——
From Will Folks
To: Wes Donehue
Sent: May 14, 2010 10:24 AM
You’ve already rolled the dice.
*About what?
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 10:25 AM
Actually, I haven’t.
*About what AND a denial
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 10:36 AM
Now, I don’t give a fuck of you believe me or not. Your the one who screwed her. You’re the one who bragged about it. She’s the one who told BJ. Yall point fingers at your own damn selves and leave me the fuck out of it.
* I have a funny feeling there was a message or 2 in between the last. “Screw her” can be backstabbing, doing bong hits with a rival, and if he “screwed her over” non sexually – Haley told BJ about it, again dont know what they are talking about – though it sounds like his BS may be exposed at this point. You know – Will keeps claiming how much of a fan he is – and at this point, makes sense that when WIll fished his story, she found out – told BJ, got pissed and realized he was a scumbag. That assesment is key going forward.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 11:10 AM
All good?
*What all good?
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 14, 2010 11:12 AM
He seems to be backing down, yeah. Dunno if that kills it or what.
* Ok – again – if there is an affair – missing messages – being Donehue sent the last one released – again we dont have the full strain – but am I to believe that Donehue “backed down” – out fo the blue, considering his last sms message? Sounds like he was pissed and what would make him “back down” FAIL
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 11:50 AM
I’m going to try to kill it. You need to get BJ to back down. Nothing good will come of this getting out. I’ve already helped bust up one family. No need to take down another one.
*No idea what they are talking about – and again – there are missing messages between the exchange. (AT THIS POINT I WANT TO POINT OUT – WHATS MISSING IS MORE RELEVANT THAN WHAT IS THERE, HENCE THIS RABBIT WHOLE INUENDO)
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 12:28 PM
I didn’t start this. I just told too many people that it was happening.
*Go back to what was previously released. Donehue (if its the same issue – cant tell, too many missing messages) was supposidely pissed at everyone talking about something… yet he now admits he has talked to too many people??? Bull fucking shit with tits. FAIL
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 1:05 PM
Tks for your help this am.
*Wow, what a light thank you for a supposidly, heated , steamy affair…
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 14, 2010 1:11 PM
Subject: Sure.
Sure. I still think he ends up running something
*SOmething what? And who? Where? About What? FAIL
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 1:12 PM
Really … Interesting.
* HAHA. Now its good. So his response is simply “really interesting” – again – about a so-called steamy affair with Haley???? that is going to the press???
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 14, 2010 1:20 PM
Word I hear is that wes is shopping an affidavit
*About what? He just said previously, he didnt start “it”, it was “dropped”, he doesnt want to “hurt any families” got pissed about too many people “talking” and now he is getting an avidavit??? For what?
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 1:21 PM
Ah. My initial thought is if it aint from you or nh then its a tough sell
*No idea what they are talking about. And why would an affair between Haley and Will require, ask for, sign or even bring up an affidavit? Am I to believe they were looking for an affidavit to “hide their affair????”FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 14, 2010 1:40 PM
Mine too … But …
*I think he meant “my butt too”
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 2:39 PM
Hearing hutchens will be at statehouse and trying to ask nh the question. Just a heads up if you’re there.
*What question? Again – an hour is in between these sms texts so we have no idea or its about something else… heres how I know this (see next comment)
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 14, 2010 2:42 PM
Gotcha
*Gotcha? Gotcha? Lets recap this guy supposedly had an affair with Haley – shit is hitting the fan, 4 people are now involved, he is worried about his family, her family, his wife, puppies and kittens… and responds “gotcha??? FAIL
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 4:22 PM
I think it’s stopped.
*2 hours between last text – and its “stopped”… GOTCHA…
—— SMS ——
From: Jim Davenport
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 7:31 PM
What is this stuff about ur having an affair with Nikki Haley?
Jim Davenport-AP_ 803-917-9562
*I’ll sum this up in the 4th sms message. I want to add – Davenport wrote a May 25th article – that does nothing to shed light on anything – but recaps the so-called scandal out there. Nothing since. Am I to believe an AP reporter who contacts Will, concerning a rumor (which many believed was started by WIll anyway) – has done no more digging on the issue??? And for the record – his piece is a piece alright, a POS inuendo -filled diatribe about SC politics – and attempts to give legs to the stroy – like a good muckraker.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Jim Davenport
Sent: May 14, 2010 7:32 PM
?
*Smartest response Will has given at any time, including now.
—— SMS ——
From: Jim Davenport
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 7:33 PM
Call. Talk.
*Journalist giving contact info, par for the course.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Jim Davenport
Sent: May 14, 2010 7:39 PM
Can’t talk right now. You are not writing on this are you?
*Second best response – though it could be thought – he asked the follow up question to see if “the cat is out of the bag”
—— SMS ——
From: Jim Davenport
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 14, 2010 7:40 PM
Supposedly someone is. Just chasing tip.
*Good boy.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 14, 2010 7:37 PM
Davenport is texting me asking about this now. WTF? Did something happen at Palin event?
*Paranoid. No response. Again – missing messages – because I cannot believe IF ITS TRUE Pearson didnt comment at all – from a day earlier
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 15, 2010 11:58 AM
Davenport calling again.
*ibid
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 15, 2010 2:10 PM
Ok. Keep me posted.
* Once again – stop the fucking truck. A so-called scandal is about to be released, with the AP now involved, after the Palin event – and he responds so cavalier “ok, keep me posted” HAHA. Its sounds like at this point – Pearson is playing along, not caring whats going on, knowing the rumors are bullshit. And of course, missing messages.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 15, 2010 2:20 PM
What you thinking?
*Ditto to previous comments – now he jsut wants to know what Will is thinking???? HAHA. Sounds like he is setting the hook.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 15, 2010 2:48 PM
His mssg said “you know why I am calling”
*Another missing strain – here Will is answering something other than “what are you thinking” – which was the last released Pearson text.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 15, 2010 2:57 PM
I think we both deny it. I think an affadavit is something we can beat down. Legally and politically.
* The key is politically. They are talking about something else completely – because to be so cavalier about a so-called scandal – no one would say “we could beat it legally and politically” – concerning a “denial” – not a fact, statement or truth – but a rumor IF its about a sex scandal.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 15, 2010 2:58 PM
I’m telling you man, we keep this under wraps and nh is going to win.
*No idea what they are talking about. Based on previous messages and my comments – I think Pearson knows Will is the rumor leak, and knows a rumor can easily be beaten. Rumor in itself can ruin a campaign, whether or not its true. If I were the campaign manager – I would say the very same thing.
——-Missed Call———–
Date: 5/17/2010 1:13p
Duration: 0:00
From: Nikki Haley
*Worst released piece of garbage. This is so fucking desperate – a missed call from Nikki, its hysterical. Maybe she was calling to say “scumbag – we know its you”… Makes perfect sense why Will is scared to ANSWER THE PHONE FROM NIKKI.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 17, 2010 1:41 PM
I talked to oconnor. Feel a little better abt things. Will call later.
*Ok
—— SMS ——
From Will Folks
To: Nikki Haley
Sent: May 17, 2010 2:43 PM
FYI … I’m denying any report that I said anything to anyone and refusing to dignify politically-motivated rumors with a response.
*Yup – the rat has been found out – and after not having the balls to answer his phone – is desperatly and weakly – like a fucking coward – texting her. “dignify politically-motivated rumors with a response” Gotcha you fucking liar. Again – if they had anb affair – would you use this verbage? Or – if you are a rat leaking a story while trying to play both sides… respond like this.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:05 PM
Barrett source says “beware tonight’s debate” to me.
*Now Will is scared and realizes he has no equity in Haleys camp. Tryin ghard to be “on the team”
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:06 PM
Hmm. What do u think that means?
*Hmmm. Like hmmm do I want regular popcorn or buttered. As I said earlier – the rats found out, which is why he is ambivolent and ASKING questions.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:07 PM
No way barrett brings something up himself. That’s insane.
*”Himself” as in a rumor that may be so garbage – it would hurt his chances politically and has no legs. Of course its insane.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:08 PM
I don’t know what it means. Once again donehue reported to be the instigator
*He doesnt know what it means??? Again – if you banged nikki – you know damn well what it means – and I love him bringing Donehue back into the fold, again – after Donehue “went away”. This is where WIll is scrambling to find a scapegoat, being he is the rat.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:08 PM
Mother fucker.
*Feign outrage to the rat you are talking to.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:10 PM
Moderator is judi gatson. She won’t do anything to hurt Nikki.
*What a fucking minute. According to delusional and scared Will now – a big question is coming soon, Donehue is the instigator…shits hitting the campaign fan… and Pearson is back to cavalier???
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:13 PM
Davenport stop calling you?
*Hes digging the rat for more info.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:15 PM
Yes. Hasn’t called since sunday.
*Funny, this is the 18th, SUnday was the 16th… yet nothing is released concerning anything about Davenport calling since Sat… What happened between Sat and Sun??? Ill give Will a pass, he is so fucked at this point, could have confused the day.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 18, 2010 1:16 PM
Cool. We’ll keep truckin.
*Any reference to Jerry Garcia is ok in my book.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 19, 2010 8:03 AM
Nothing in the FT
*”Say rat, where is the big scandal story”
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 19, 2010 8:04 AM
Yup. Saw that this AM. WHEW!
*Whew is right.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:08 PM
Howre things?
*1 1/2 days missing, if there was any communications. Again – here we have 2 guys – one a campaign manager – one a so-called “friend and adulterer with the very candidate” and everything is just peachy now…
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:29 PM
Fucking nuts. People saying davenport story is imminent. I am honestly losing my mind a little.
*Thats right -the lie is going to fuck him over, he is freaking out, scared and worried – for “nikki”, of course. ANd his wife.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:31 PM
I’m hearing buzz abt it too. But I don’t think he has anything. He hasn’t called you recently?
*This response is so cavalier – I think hes getting a blow job while typing. But still getting info from the rat.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:32 PM
He has not.
*The liar is freaking out.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:32 PM
What did your lawyers say?
*Who knows what this is about – very suspect the time/date stamp and subject matter. No lawyer has ever been mentioned. So many messages are missing here, who knows.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:34 PM
I think right now they’re just trying to create a shitload of buzz.
*Notice how “not worried” Haleys campaign manager is… and notice he says “buzz”. Wrong word if he is talking about a so-called scandal. Buzzz??????? FAIL
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 4:44 PM
I just talked to jim abt polling. No mention of it. Story aint that imminent. Can relax for today.
*Hahaha, this is awesome. SO Jim Davenport, AP writer – hot on the sex scandal – chats with Pearson just about polling… now the fact he says “the story isnt imminent” tells me he knows some sort of story will probably come out – and Pearson may know its the typical story, that actually ran 5 days later. Notice how calm he is… then tells the rat to “chill”
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 7:29 PM
I hear ya.
Hang in there. We are gonna win this thing man.
*Hear what? 3 hours later??? Clearly missing messages.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 20, 2010 7:32 PM
I believe it. I don’t even think this breaking (under these circumstances) would stop her.
*I imagine Will thinks he has s glimmer of hope of being “friends” with the camp – notice his verbage is one of desperate inclusion. He also added the “under these circumstances” which should be obvious – but here is where I think Will begins the hamster wheel idea of “avoiding the switch blade” and is collecting texts to go “full FITSNEWS” mode. Remember – its for Nikki and his “family’s” safety. HAHAHAHA. FAIL FAIL
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 20, 2010 7:48 PM
Sometimes people get it right.
*A jeopardy question? an essay? What di they get right. Missing messages again.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 21, 2010 6:55 AM
My sources indicate Hutchins is running next week (possibly cover) and Davenport is trying to beat him to the punch.
*Now hes tweaking, up early – cant sleep… and of course bull shit cover – knowing he is going to release the “story” on Monday. KNow why I know this?
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 6:55 AM
Ok. Tks.
*Because of this who gives a shit response from Pearson. Again – WIll is claiming that 2 reporters are about to break the story… and Pearson could give a flying fuck, knowing its all bs and knowing its Will who leaked.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 6:57 AM
How much do you believe that source?
*Get info from the rat – notice he sends this after the “who gives a shit” response
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 21, 2010 7:19 AM
I don’t know what to believe at this point
*Get your woobie pussy.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 21, 2010 7:23 AM
Also I am a little disturbed by the anonymous threats about releasing “proof” within 48 hrs
*Proof” well, considering it didnt happen – which Will knows – he throws that out there to get Pearsons attention
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 7:40 AM
What anonymous threats?
*Notice he doesnt ask about the “proof”, but wants more info from the rat. Asking good questions.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 21, 2010 7:49 AM
Comments on FITS. Consistent w intel I am getting regarding wesley working it still
*HAHAHAHA see my above comments about Will getting the idea about using his own site… odd it first pops up here, isnt it….
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 8:01 AM
Don’t sweat the small stuff. Anonymous comments aren’t shit. They have been digging on this for a year.
*So “who gives a shit” response its funny.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 21, 2010 8:07 AM
I am not sweating the comment. I am sweating it being consistent w what I am hearing regarding the barrett people.
*Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! Will is desperatly trying to bring in a rival camp as a scapegoat, being he is a fucking rat.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 8:10 AM
I know desperation is the mother of all invention – but I feel like whatever they come up with will be manufactured – and transparently so.
*Bull shits Will. Pearson is so unworried – he knows there is nothing true. ALso kows it would be so fake, its laughable.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 21, 2010 2:46 PM
Sources telling me wes is bragging about a pciture.
*Back to Wes again? Will is scrambling to find a scapegoat. Full freak out mode – remember – ah shit read the stuff I posted, its a broken record of a scumbag lying to cover his lies, its psychotic.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 2:48 PM
I dunno man. I think they’re just trying to get someone to jump. This is like the 4th diff kind of evidence he’s claimed to have.
*ZZZZZZ huh Will, ah yeah – ok ZZZZZZZZZZZ thanks buddy.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 2:48 PM
If he has a pic its very new … I just don’t buy it.
*A new pic of the 3 year old scandal – of course – its Will who is claiming the “pictures are from a dirt diggin investigation” into HIM – because he was such a powerful man in SC politics – again – Pearson couldnt give a shit.
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 3:30 PM
If you’re calling about Haley, don’t. If I wanted her gone I would have already done it.
*Funny – he is now calling – but we dont know why and in what context. My opinion – even Wes is so fed up with the bull shit – hes basically saying “go fuck off, if I wanted to run a bogus scandal – I would have already done it”
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Wes Donehue
Sent: May 21, 2010 3:31 PM
Dude I am just trying to act in a way that will protect my family
*Ahhhhh heres the family being mentioned… also a desperate plea, using his family as cover. What a little, little man.
—— SMS ——
From: Wes Donehue
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 21, 2010 3:36 PM
Your family and Nikkis kids are the ONLY reason I haven’t acted. It sure as fuck ain’t the threats.
*I notice the hubby is left out.. why is that? And what threats have been made – and to whom.
—— SMS ——
From: Will Folks
To: Tim Pearson
Sent: May 22, 2010 1:08 PM
Yes or I will text you. Nikki knows about the picture from last year. Bottom line I don’t know that they don’t have it. That threat has been made.
*Yes what? MOre missing messages – and notice since the scumbag went into “Im fucked, need to collect info to cover my lying ass” – he is much more explicit with his verbage. He is still trying to be the “good guy” – and uses vague “the threat has been made” Is that from Bourne Identity or is it from The Sopranos?
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 22, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: Ok. Call me.
Ok. Call me. I’ll step away from where I am.
*Ok what? Missing messages.
—— SMS ——
From: Tim Pearson
To: Will Folks
Sent: May 22, 2010 5:50 PM
Ok. Call me as soon as you can. I’m with michael and nikki so as soon as I’m back in the car I can’t talk. Need to chat before she sees davenport.
*OK what? More missing messages. Its Sat night now – last released message. Anyone wonder what happened between Sat and Monday morning????
There it is in a nutshell. Heres the how and why Will can create a scandal that doesnt exist, release bs cut and paste text messages and lends to the fact, he is a lying POS.
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Odie, I stopped reading that desperate nonsense early on – I hope it took you a long time to type because nobody else would have read it here, either. But I got it. You think they’re having a discussion about something unrelated to the affair and then an AP reporter sends an SMS saying he hears there’s an affair. Sure. I have some property I’d like to sell you. Please email me at charliebradley@glengarryglenross.com
By lee May 27, 2010 at 4:31 pm
A real page turner. Each day brings a little more information. You better have a smoking gun or you are in trouble, Mr. Man.
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Oh, and here’s the big flaw in your logic, Odie. Tim Pearson is Nikki Haley’s *campaign manager*. So he would have asked Haley if she had ever been involved with Folks. If she hadn’t, he would simply ignore Folks, rather than waste time replying to his messages. If she had, he would respond as he did.
This is transparently obvious logic. Please spend a lot of your time on a really long, ranting, pointless rebuttal to it, which nobody will read.
By Odie1941 May 27, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Charlie:
So you read my post that you claim you and noone else will read… HAHA you cant even respond consistently fuckwad. And I thought you werent responding to me at all???
I am betting $10000 you are a butt buddy frat boy of Wills. You use the same idiotic “I am trying to help out here” while doing the opposite.
Ah no idiot – Pearson is first dealing with a rumor, then realizes the lying scumbag is a lying scumbag. All broken down nicely for you. His casual responses to “big scandal info” is hysterical, because he knows its not true. What part of me stating – 8 or 12 times he is her campaign manager?
They key is the tone and verbiage used, how it changes, etc. but I am convinced you have no idea wtf I am talking about – due to an IQ issue, nothing else.
It was so easy to break down the psyche of Will, it was like profiling a retarded 12 year old.
You keep believing its “true” based on nothing but bogus messages, Ill believe its “not true” – based on logic and ANERICAN FUCKING LAWS.
And btw scooter what is “transparently obvious logic?”
By countryboy May 27, 2010 at 4:52 pm
My god it’s like a bunch of inmates from an insane asylum got access to computers today! I’ll be back when (if) the authorities restore order.
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Transparently obvious logic is the kind you’re missing.
I’ll grant you that Folks is fucked up, and that there’s some oddness in the exchange. But you say Pearson is first dealing with a rumor, then realizes the lying scumbag is a lying scumbag. Pearson knew about the rumour already:
‘They have been digging on this for a year.’
You think in that year he would not have asked Haley if it were true? Sure. You think that if it were untrue and he knew it from Haley, he’d be wasting time on it a year later with someone else who must know it to be untrue? Sure.
It’s really very obvious.
By rahm May 27, 2010 at 5:17 pm
why is it that Nikki Haley keeps saying “you, you, you” why is he the one worried when he wasnt married to begin with while she’s the one that has a family to think about, did Folks sex change or something because he sounds like the girl that doesnt want to get in trouble while Nikki sounds like the guy that is conforting the little girl, very strange indeed! ;)
By Odie1941 May 27, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Charlie:
“Oddness”??? .. glad you read it. Thoguh said you werent going to read it…
And there is no such thing as “obvious” or “transparent” logic… There is syllogistic, modal, predicate, etc, etc. But hey – you keep trying to sound and act smart…
Do you notice you make a claim first, then come back to admit your claim was false? Or wrong” Or “odd?”
That has nothing to do with logic, that is called “a fucking moron”
Know whats obvious – nothing from the sms messages, the 2!!! emails and the so-called “phone records” that noone has seen. That is the result of a cut and paste hack job of inuendo, out of context “messages” – all tail wag the dog supposition that you are eating up.
As I mentioned – its whats not being released that casts doubt – not what has been released. That is called “a big problem” and in court is called “thrown the fuck out”
I tell you – if I had the choice of trial by jury or a judge – I’ll take a judge any day – due to the simple nature of bi-peds like yourself.
By rahm May 27, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Nikki- I pray you escape all this, Stay strong. Have faith, I’m sorry for any pain you are having to go through. You will be ok and better for it.
Folks- I have considered leaving the whole business.
Nikki- Focus on healing yourself and clearing your mind, It will help you get everything into a realistic perspective. Only then can you make the right decisions for you and your family. You will get through this. I promise.
Dude are you really dying? I mean in real life theres nothing unusual about a guy going through mid-life crisis, just sayin.
By Ray May 27, 2010 at 5:36 pm
I’m as liberal as they come, but this is starting to look like total crap. Folks better present better “evidence” than this bullshit!
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 5:39 pm
I read the SMS messages, sure.
It’s not about this being thrown out, or what you think. He had an affair of some description or other with her and he is trying to get her to confess before he has to dig really deep into some seedy emails he sent her that he doesn’t want his wife to read. She thinks she doesn’t have enough to bring her down and is riding the storm praying he doesn’t.
I’m sure there are omissions in the SMS messages, but they can’t explain Pearson’s response if he knew the rumour was false. As he is Haley’s campaign manager, he must have asked her.
I do hope there are journalists with more brains than you out there who can piece this together.
By JudgeME May 27, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Trust me – the quantity of calls and time stamps on them can be more than enough.
By Odie1941 May 27, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Charlie:
You may not be the sharpest – but the fact you do admit you are wrong is impressive.
But I digress…
“I do hope there are journalists with more brains than you out there who can piece this together.”
Bingo!!! The cats out of the bag, this has nothing to do with law, it has everything to do with a rag picking up the story, running with it – and destroying a career or 2. Glad you admit that. However – if you are paying attention – Will claims it WAS BECAUSE A PUBLICATION WAS GOING TO RUN A STORY FIRST THAT HE CAME OUT ON MONDAY. To think Will’s psychosis alludes to “others doing the work” is laughable. Does he need someone to say “pretty please?” NO – he wants a fucking pay out to spread dirt.
I also find your comments interesting: “He had (are you sure) an affair of some description or other (or other what? – the fact you dont even know – yet have passed judgement is fucking scaaaaaaary) with her and he is trying to get her to confess (why, what good comes of it now that HE released the story?) before he has to dig really deep into some seedy emails (what emails – and how seedy are they) he sent her that he doesn’t want his wife to read.(clearly you personally know Will – or you would never have made that comment) She thinks she (you meant, he, no biggie) doesn’t have enough to bring her down (I thought it was about “saving his family and hers”)and is riding the storm praying he doesn’t.
Your one paragraph alone exposes how bullshit gets picked up and run with in politics.
One other thing. I am convinced you are Will’s buddy, or even Will himself.
Because your tone, demeanor and verbiage changed in the same way Will’s did throughout the so-called “sms messages of proof.”
It is characteristic of a liar or someone not fully aware of what they are talking about.
See you keep telling me how “bad Will is” while sticking up for the scumbag through dummy “logic” – in the same bi-polar manner Will claims “he did it to protect Nikki and his family”
By Charlie May 27, 2010 at 6:12 pm
I’m not Will and had no idea who he was before this week. I am not involved in SC politics, or indeed politics at all. I do know about journalism.
Re “Saving his family and hers!”. I’ve never said I think Folks is morally sound here. Just that it doesn’t matter. I have no idea if his motives were originally honest, and couldn’t care less. He’s not the issue. You’re railing against him, but it doesn’t matter. Haley is theone running for office. Once she confesses, nobody will care if Folks was paid, is immoral, if his career is over or not.
It’s not about that.
By BillClinton May 27, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Hey Will,
I know cavaliers never tell, but just between us boys…
BC
By 803andy May 27, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Haley very, very, handsomely paid Will to lie and make a fool of himself and his website so she can add more steam to her campaign and come out looking more and more like a winner????????????
By tired of it May 27, 2010 at 8:16 pm
It all boils down to point of view. We all read different things into what we read, hear, and see. The fact that he may or may not have something that appears to be unfavorable is a non-issue. What Haley can do for the state is the real issue. I’m not voting for her based on her personal life. I’m voting for her because of what I think she can do to better our state. Who cares…get a life.
By MissTammy May 27, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Uh, that email reads as rather staged, no? Grammatical errors aside, even.
By joel palmer May 27, 2010 at 8:41 pm
This is all too simple; If NOT true; she sues for libel and gets everything he owns.
If True; she stonewalls.
Simple logic will tell you that Folks is the one more likely to be telling the truth (nothing to gain). Haley is one more likely to be lying (everything to lose).
I would make a substantial wager thet she will be offering a tearful apology to her family in five… four… three… two…
By Anon May 27, 2010 at 10:11 pm
This photo was supposed to be a dirt on Falk !?! And now he is publishing it? There are also unnamed witnesses and phrases like ‘compromising’ here. Exactly what sleeze is comprised of. Folk may be a tea-partier. Everyone knows these people are in all-out war with non-members in GOP.
By Odie1941 May 27, 2010 at 10:20 pm
Charlie:
You aren’t helping Will’s case anymore.
So its all just about her, huh…. like a good political target in a hack job like this.
I’ll be back in the AM when Red State has the names…
By terrtwos May 27, 2010 at 10:52 pm
just like the title of the website says…unfair and inbalanced, I think sic willie likes to read and gets off on all this ridiculous posting…
By Jerry May 27, 2010 at 10:57 pm
As I have said before I am still recovering from Nixon.
By Hostile Knowledge May 27, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Will, yours is like the howls of a demented sexual pervert escaping from a padded room inside an lunatic asylum.
If you had anything, it would have long since emerged.
Frankly, I don’t know the invisible hand here, but I really hope that they will eventually be identified.
Jack Bauer! Are you available?
By jason rogers May 28, 2010 at 2:14 am
MBAcaptalist,you can keep dreaming about your first red dot governor,you multiculturists seem to only want that for white countries,bet you’d lament a white having power in india or any non-white country.as far as susan,please no shitty sappy 60′s lyrics about betraying our soldiers/country,waste of space.but mainly i want to say,my intuition tells me this story is REAL.i’ve seen plenty and very few come about this way and end up not being correct.the stalling by her doesnt do anything but draw out the reality that she is toast.for all you simpletons who believe this is nothing i can only have disdain for your lack of perception and wisdom of judgement.by nature a false accusation is intended to be a hit and run peripheral affair which plants a seed of doubt among voters,etc who make usually uniformed,emotional decisions anyway,example:electing obama et al.
By CriticalMass May 28, 2010 at 2:56 am
Charlie, you deserve a lot of respect for dealing with Odie as patiently and carefully as you have… you tried valiantly to get through to him with logic and reason. You must be shaking your head with incredulity at his foaming-at-the-mouth, illogical responses.
Odie, you come across as a crack addict… or at least someone who is so obsessed about his own point of view being right/believed that he is unwilling to calm down for a minute and try to understand that someone else has done a better job of thinking the situation through and has exposed your POV as completely unviable.
Charlie, you are da man… time will prove you have figured it out.
By 55 May 28, 2010 at 10:18 am
jason rogers is a moron in several ways, including his making up words like “multiculturists.”
By Louie Bouy May 28, 2010 at 10:26 am
Pertaining to the released cell phone logs, I think they are “real”. As far as “real” means, they are from an actual log in which the phone was programed to spoof someones else’s phone number. Caller ID spoofing can make a call appear to have come from any phone number the caller wishes. Because of the high trust people tend to have in the caller ID system, spoofing is rarely investigated. Google “spoofcard” you can buy 60 minutes for $10. This the answer to Willie’s numerous cell phones he uses to create his fantasy world. Willie’s a blogger and up on all current technology that can be used to defame or blackmail his victims. You can bet there is a criminal investigation going on currently. I smell jail time on this one – you’ve been outed Willie-boy! I also wonder how the neighbors know who drives a parked car, when they never saw the driver? And when did a low life like Willie ever assemble a “team of advisers” – too funny.
By Khristy May 28, 2010 at 11:59 am
If you have pictures prove it! If not shut up and move on.
By proudof sc May 28, 2010 at 12:07 pm
I appreiciate Charley’s brain and reasoned discourse. For some of you, your jealousy shows.
By EdC May 28, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Heh-heh … you said “mounting.”
By Lee May 29, 2010 at 9:10 pm
She is guilty and it will soon all come out. Gut feeling.
By Chip May 30, 2010 at 6:17 am
Took another long ride to and around Columbia then back yesterday and saw precious few Haley signs and exactly one bumper sticker. For commodities that are “flying out of head quarters” there doesn’t seem to be any in use. Maybe I was just in all the wrong neighborhoods. Maybe they suffered the same fate as John Edwards’ signs and stickers did after the excrement hit the rotating device. To be fair, most of what’s been released has been like UFO photos, a tad bit grainy. Still Folks has been at least as productive as his word so one must expect a photo of some sort is in the pipeline. The timing of its release seems rather odd though. If Folks is releasing this “flood” of “evidence” to stay ahead of another or many other media outlets it would seem prudent to completely disclose rather than to do so piecemeal. Different motives would dictate different timing. LBJ was fond of the “put it out there so they have to deny it” form or attack, hopefully this isn’t that. Still, a long standing situation such as this should have garnered several independent witnesses as well and thus far there seems to be a dearth of that too. Also, there’s still an erie silence from Haley’s husband one way or the other. Tis a puzzlement. My bet is that Garrett is somewhere just below the surface though I have absolutely so proof. Surely Andrea’ is keeping mum as those who live in glass houses… McMaster would do well to keep above it all while he searches for whoever designed those awful tiny red oval signs and Sheheen should just bide his time and keep running those “Mormonesque” television ads. The greater question begging to be answered is why so many are spending so much on something that in reality is in point of fact so unfulfilled in its comparative reward. We all owe Folks a vote of thanks for at least making this rather mundane race a tad bit more interesting. Tis a puzzlement.
By Chip May 30, 2010 at 6:40 am
I apologize, its either Gresham Barett or Bresham Garett, sure would be nice if this guy had a nick name. His latest Citidal Ad couldn’t be lamer though. I thought Sgt. Slaughter was still under contract to the WWE. Speaking of “what’s his name”, did anyone else get the impression that he might benefit from a switch to decaf after watching the WIS “debate”? It appears as if he and Andrea’ are engaged in a macho contest although in Andrea’s case, me thinks he dost protest too much. If Haley were a man, wouldn’t wives around the State be warning their husbands about overt support of her? Haley’s base of middle class females seems exempt from this sort or marital scrutiny. Andrea’s base of low country yuppie cougars has been uncommonly silent as well. What’s his name’s base of “Friends of W” are mum as well. My boy McMaster could add a little spice to his campaign by siding one way or the other but my gut tells me he won’t. Maybe we could nick name, what’s his name TARPman.
By disgusted in SC May 30, 2010 at 3:08 pm
REJECTED???? Why does a pervert save copies of texts for 3 yrs???? Because he must have been rejected and had this planned. He can’t get over it or himself.
By m Hodge May 31, 2010 at 12:42 pm
This is the biggest load of egotistical manure I have ever read!!! Either crap or get off the pot, Folks! Your time in the limelight ended with your assault on your ex-fiancee.
By Married Women Looking For Men May 31, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Nothing new I see! I’m tired of following this BS…. Produce a damn sex tape of STFU
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2. E-Mails
3. Late Night Til Early Morning [5:AM] Phone Calls
4. Monitoring Camera’s at Swank Hotels.
5. Cell Phone Records
6. Sexting
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