Clemson Trustee Implicated In Alleged Assault

nicky mccarter

By FITSNews || A Clemson University trustee who basically bought his way onto the powerful higher ed board (and whose company receives hundreds of thousands of dollars from the University) has been accused of assaulting a Columbia, S.C. man following an argument last weekend.

Sources tell FITS that Nicky McCarter, who was just reelected to the Clemson board last month, slammed the man’s head against a car and punched him in the face following a high school soccer tournament Saturday at the University of South Carolina’s Stone Stadium in downtown Columbia.

Local law enforcement agencies could not immediately locate any incident reports related to the alleged assault, but multiple sources have confirmed that McCarter attacked the man following a verbal altercation that stemmed from a previous (confirmed) incident involving McCarter’s teenage son.

Sources tell FITS that McCarter’s son, Cole – who attends Cardinal Newman High School – was the ringleader of a Halloween 2009 vandalism spree that resulted in tens of thousands of dollars worth of damage to property owned by Wildewood Country Club, an exclusive private club in Northeast Columbia, S.C.

Cole McCarter and the other teenagers were allowed to enter a pre-trial intervention (PTI program) and avoid prosecution following the vandalism spree, but the bill for the damages was reportedly divided up evenly among all of the childrens’ parents – despite the fact that the younger McCarter is said to have done the majority of the damage himself.  When Nicky McCarter refused to pick up his son’s share of the damages, parents of some of the other children (several single mothers among them) protested.

That incident is said to have been the spark that ignited the confrontation at the soccer match.

McCarter’s political donations to lawmakers (ostensibly in exchange for their votes for his candidacy) made headlines in 2008 when he was first appointed to the Clemson board.  Since then, his company’s contract with Clemson – valued at $600,000 annually – has also come under scrutiny.

FITS is awaiting independent confirmation of the name of the alleged victim.

Stay tuned …

UPDATE: The name of the alleged victim has now been confirmed as Kevin Nahigian, a Columbia-area doctor.

UPDATE II: The University of South Carolina police department has an incident report related to this alleged assault. As soon as a copy is provided to us, we’ll publish it with commentary.

UPDATE III: Sources are now telling FITS that McCarter and his girlfriend, Stacy Pennington, went to the police several days after the alleged assault to offer an alternative version of events.

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Comments

  1. By CU fan May 13, 2010 at 8:38 pm

    Nicky is a standup, good guy. He will greatly improve Clemson. Whatever happened here is not of his doing, I’m sure.

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  2. By Soft Sigh from Hell May 13, 2010 at 9:01 pm

    Geez, look at that mug. A Cro-Magnon relict in the Palmetto State. And outside Metz’s Methatopia where you might have expected one (being the territory of primitive Jake Man and the Joe Wilson homeland). Well the Clemson board is an appropriate place to stash him I guess, another place where he probably won’t be noticed all that much.

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  3. By beentook2 May 13, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    Another Peckerhead on the loose.

    If Junior Peckerhead Cole can’t come up with the money to pay for his play, then off to the slammer he should go.

    After one night with bubba’s dick up his ass he will find a way to get the money.

    As for Senior Peckerhead not only should he be re-elected to the Clemson Board he should be anointed Chairman for Life.

    He and Clemson deserve each other.

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  4. By Fits Lies May 13, 2010 at 10:55 pm

    Nicky is a good guy. Sounds like he may be standing up for his kid, like any good dad does…even when they may have done something bad…kids unfortunately will be kids, and parents do what they can to get them safely out of their stupidity…

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  5. By Commonman May 14, 2010 at 7:24 am

    Slamming a man’s head against a car and punching in the face isn’t exactly standing up for your kid. I want the details to come out. Sounds to me like the Daddy isn’t much of a role model if this is how he responds to conflict. Surely there has to be more.

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  6. By Ynotfirst May 14, 2010 at 7:32 am

    sounds like this man oughta run for Senate or Congress.

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  7. By Toyota Kawaski May 14, 2010 at 8:36 am

    Sounds like he is still bitter over that ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS cutting the Thunder Chickens put on Dabo Winninee and his pack of Bilo Bengals.

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  8. By Jeffy01 May 14, 2010 at 8:41 am

    oh yeah he is a stand up guy…..who sometimes hits people

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  9. By CNSYD May 14, 2010 at 8:58 am

    Captain Renault is shocked to learn that donations to political campaigns can buy you favors from politicians. This is groundbreaking news!

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  10. By underug May 14, 2010 at 9:38 am

    If this had been a USC trustee, this would be all over the news.

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  11. By The Associate May 14, 2010 at 10:04 am

    Nahigian is about 5’4″ and 105 lbs soaking wet.

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  12. By Wondering May 14, 2010 at 10:17 am

    did you have to bring up his sons juvenile record? Aren’t there protections which keep these records sealed?

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  13. By Slinky May 14, 2010 at 10:32 am

    His son did a lot of damage, and he needs to pay for it. What a jerk.

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  14. By Darth May 14, 2010 at 10:52 am

    Don’t fergit, IPTAY means “I are Pre-Trial Aer You?”

    Of course, how much did Mike Mungo spend for his seat on USC’s board?

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  15. By CNSYD May 14, 2010 at 11:03 am

    Toyota, U are damn right that Nicky is pissed over USux winning this past year! Do you realize that victory moved USux’s series win percentage from 36.3% to 36.9%!! Why if USux wins the next 27 games in a row the series will be even. Time to circle the wagons!

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  16. By Fairfied Fella May 14, 2010 at 11:09 am

    anonymous sources…once again

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  17. By Tommy May 14, 2010 at 11:59 am

    McCarter needs to pay for the damages. His son is obviously a piece of trash that wrecks golf carts into ponds. I am a memeber of this club, and I wish these kids would have been thrown in jail. Thanks to little pricks like McCarter’s son, my dues increase. Scumbag dad, scumbag kid

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  18. By south mauldin May 14, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, it seems.

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  19. By Harumph May 14, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Imagine, treating another parent at a soccer match like DeAndre McDaniel treats a woman. Unfortunately for McCarter, he (unlike McDaniel) made the mistake of engaging in criminal behavior in a place where police actually enforce the law. McCarter is a redneck thug and an embarrassment to Clemson, especially its fairly distinguished Board of Trustees.

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  20. By soccer mom May 14, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    There is more to this story. How come when a Gamecock football player gets into a scuffle in a 5 Points bar, its front page news? But a Clemson Trustee gets into a fight and we have to read about it on some obscure blog. Keep digging, Fits.

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  21. By CNSYD May 14, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    Harumph, please tell me what crime McDaniel has been CONVICTED of? You understand that concept don’t you? What about FITS?

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  22. By BBF1983 May 14, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    CNSYD, those stats and percentages really helped you guys out in November didn’t they? No Spiller, no Ford, no Palmer now. Does it really matter if Kyle Parker opts for professional baseball? Who the hell is he gonna throw to if he DOES elect to come back and play football?

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  23. By Tommy May 14, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    McDaniel is convicted of getting beat like a redheaded stepchild by Weslye Saunders and Alshon Jeffrey. Remember that CSNYD?

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  24. By Tommy May 14, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    McCarter looks like a redneck alcoholic. The years have not been kind to say the least.

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  25. By CNSYD May 14, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    BBF1983, I am sorry if facts and figures cause you so much trouble. Shall we discuss 63-17?

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  26. By CNSYD May 14, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    BBF1983 aand Tommy, you cocks (an apt name) are so predictable. Every year you are preseason national champs. Where do you keep all those trophies?

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  27. By BBF1983 May 14, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    I’m sure you’d like to discuss 63-17, although I’m not exactly sure what 63-17 has to do with 2010 and a team that’s losing a HUGE portion of it’s offensive production. Anything to take your mind off current circumstances so have at it if you want to. Doesn’t really matter to me.

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  28. By CNSYD May 14, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    BBF1983, I will make you a deal. Lets discuss past games. I will pick 50 Clemson victories over USC and you pick 50 USC victories over Clemson…oh wait, you have to stop at 38. Why is that?

    And to your point of 63-17 having nothing to do with 2010, you are correct. And neither does 2010 have anything to do with 2011. That is why they play the games.

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  29. By Gen. Longstreet May 14, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    Dear CNSYD,

    You, sir, are a fool who has offered little to nothing to this discussion.

    Old Pete

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  30. By R May 14, 2010 at 6:38 pm

    If this had occurred at Clemson it would’ve been a non-issue. The Tater Town Police wouldn’t have investigated the issue and Clemson Board of Trustees would reign with impunity as usual. It’s a real shame how under the spotlight USC Trustees are but Clemson Trustees get a blank check on doing whatever ills they want to. I hope this thug gets prosecuted to the fullest extent and sued. I guess he thinks since he can buy his POS son out of responsibility for his actions he thinks he can do the same. I wonder if he’s got his hands all over Clemson’s $80 million slush fund? You know the $80 million Clemson lied to Legislators as to why they had to increase tuition by double-digits because of “budget cuts” but actually they piled up this nice little slush fund.

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  31. By madcock May 14, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    CNSYD, DeAndre McDaniel PLED GUILTY to “assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature” of a young girl, so there was no trial for a conviction. Way to do your best Slick Willie imitation to defend the little thug.

    Would you trust your daughter alone with him?

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  32. By Max The Dog May 14, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    No doubt this dude is simply having a relapse of the old glory days at Clemson and just happen to get involved in a sissy foreigh soccer game with the smallest male cheerleader in South Carolina history……..

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  33. By Zach May 14, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    The professionally corrupt ones in our state – Jean Toal, McConnell, Bauer, Knotts, Leatherman, City of Columbia employees and Sanford – love stories like this one. (I would include McMaster, but he just doesn’t get it). It takes energy away from those following their escapades. This creep McCarter is a wannabe. His 15 minutes is over.

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  34. By CNSYD May 14, 2010 at 9:55 pm

    madcock, I would have thought a cock would be well versed in PTI. In order to plead anything there has to be a trial. None was held per PTI. When he completes PTI his record will be clean. Talk to the USux team attorney and he will explain it to you.

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  35. By CNSYD May 14, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    R, I understand how deficient your reading is due to your substandard cock education but you did notice the word “alleged” in FITS’ headline didn’t you or do you not understand the US justice system? Since the alleged event did not occur anywhere near the upstate, what is your explanation for the lack of “charges” now?

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  36. By BBF1983 May 14, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    Don’t know if you’re aware of this CNSYD but we’re currently in the year 2010. The year we most recently completed…that was 2009. In the year 2009 South Carolina defeated Clemson 34-17. That 2009 team that Clemson fielded…it lost damn near every offensive playmaker…and even WITH those playmakers the score, again, was South Carolina – 34, Clemson – 17. Now you can bring up the series record and past Clemson victories til you’re blue in the face, but no player on the current teams participated in 63-17. On the flip-side, many players on both teams participated in that 2009 contest. Unfortunately for Clemson, a few players that managed to keep the tigers from being completely embarrassed that day, are gone.

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  37. By Helena B. May 15, 2010 at 8:30 am

    Clemson’s Board of Trustees is full of creepy low-ball pocket-liners like this bimbo. How is Gene Troutman lawsuit going against these bastards?

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  38. By Some of you people are freaks! May 15, 2010 at 9:47 am

    Who cares about the Clemson/Caronlina rivalry?
    The article is about a guy who beat up some other guy over his kid’s juvenile crime spree! Should Fits keep the kid’s name confidential — he isnt the juvenile court.
    As for sticking up for your kid, perhaps had the dad made this kid accountable for some of his actions early on, he would have less sticking up to do now, in the form of fighting. What a great example of parenting. From the story, he sounds like a jerk who fathered a jerk. A real boon to the old South Carolina gene pool. Thanks dumbass!

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  39. By Wesley Donehue May 15, 2010 at 10:00 am

    I love you people. You just jump on the web and start bashing a guy because Will Folks makes some random allegations.

    Nicky McCarter is a stand up guy and a terrific father.

    Max The Dog – learn how to use the Internet. You go around every blog in SC using a different name, but guess what? Your avatar remains the same.

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  40. By CNSYD May 15, 2010 at 11:04 am

    BBF1983, you OBVIOUSLY missed my point. What happened in a previous year and with previous players means absolutely nothing in the next contest. If it did, why bother to play the game? I have seen many USC-Clemson games where the “experts” said that one team would dominate the other and the final result was exactly the opposite. It would serve you better as a cock fan (that’s an interesting term) to devote your “analysis” to who will be on the field for USC when the game gets here. There is a a lot of academics and visits to 5 Points between now and then. I am sure Clemson will find some players to show up on game day. They always have.

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  41. By CNSYD May 15, 2010 at 11:17 am

    Helena B, I presume you have included the former Ambassador to Canada, the former Chair and CEO of SCANA (who is an emeritus member), the retired Chair and CEO of Fluor (now an emeritus member), the retired President of Rockwell, the CEO of Alice Manufacturing, etc. in your sweeping statement of “creepy low-ball pocket-liners”. If Troutman had a slam dunk case it would be concluded by now. All Troutman wants is cash. If he was only interested in Clemson he would have asked for an apology only. Whenever the money gets right, you can bet it will settle without an admission on blame on anyone’s part. The lawyers, as usual, will walk away with the proceeds.

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  42. By CNSYD May 15, 2010 at 11:20 am

    Gen. Longstreet or Old Pete or whatever name you are using today, obviously it is your opinion that unless one parrots your views then they add nothing. Lots of luck with that.

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  43. By CNSYD May 15, 2010 at 11:36 am

    I have just completed a three county (Richland, Lexington and Fairfield)data base search for this alleged crime. It could not be found. Now normally all you cocks say that things involving Clemson are covered up in the upstate. So what say you now? Is it a coverup or a fantasy?

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  44. By PutSpur2Fur May 15, 2010 at 12:41 pm

    “I love you people. You just jump on the web and start bashing a guy because Will Folks makes some random allegations.” – Wesley Donehue

    I see information here that dates from June of 2008 and March of 2010. If the information is alleged and erroneous, as you infer, then you would think Mr. McCarter would have had asked or litigated for its removal.

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  45. By truthseeker May 15, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    The Troutman suit has been delayed for an excessive amount of time. Clemson has spent approximately $1 million on legal fees, with attorneys for the board and administration doing everything they can to stall the case. The delay has allowed administrators who officially retired years ago, and were quietly re-hired, to continue to bleed the university dry. Had full public disclosure of their actions come in a timely manner, the university would have been partially cleaned up by now. For information on the Troutman case, see affidavits at http://www.clemsonlawsuit.com

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  46. By PutSpur2Fur May 15, 2010 at 2:10 pm

    “The Troutman suit has been delayed for an excessive amount of time. Clemson has spent approximately $1 million on legal fees, with attorneys for the board and administration doing everything they can to stall the case.” – truthseeker

    Indeed they have gone to some extremes in their pursuit to have the lawsuit dismissed. Currently they are claiming sovereign immunity as an arm of the state.

    It’s interesting that Clemson wants the benefit of sovereign immunity, but they refuse to abide by state responsibilities with regards to having a full board structure of legislative appointments as the other state instituions are required.

    They cling to the Thomas Clemson will which allows for a Good-Old-Boy ruling majority in perpetuity which has resulted in some sweetheart deals and multi-million dollar public money slush funds controlled by non-publicly appointed cronies.

    Exactly what state or federal legal precedent allows for the will of Thomas Clemson to make a donation of land with a stipulation that subverts/trumps democratic law?

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  47. By CNSYD May 15, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    truthseeker, your comments belie your pen name. I would have supposed that you were aware that documents submitted in a civil case are cherry picked by each side to bolster their case. They may or may not contain fact or even be germaine. In regard to the “delay”, I guess you are ignoring in whose hands the case has rested for a long time. It is not the plaintiff nor the defendant. It is the judge. I suggest you contact him to get an answer as to why it is taking so long. I have seen judges in civil cases in SC tell both sides that they are to have a settlement by date certain or the judge will settle it for them. Doesn’t appear to be the case here.

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  48. By Mike at the beach May 15, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Spur2Fur;

    Excellent logic, but when refuting Donahue’s silliness here never forget to mention that he’s just a dorky little douche of a pillow-biter, too…

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  49. By truthseeker May 15, 2010 at 3:10 pm

    Clemson is indeed a university like few others. It has a president who is a professional architect and does not understand scholarly research, an unqualified provost who slipped in the backdoor when the BOT selected the current president over more qualified personnel, a chief economic officer who is not a CPA (note the recent $109 million accounting error), and head legal counsel who is not a member of the SC Bar. Clemson relies on nepotism and cronyism in its daily operations, and very few people ever question it. Troutman is effectively in Siberia for attempting to hold the university accountable for its spending and massive pay increases to the president’s inner circle. Truly a pathetic state of affairs.

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  50. By Good Ole Boy May 15, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Nahigian probably made fun of Nicky’s girly name.

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  51. By gamecockgospel May 15, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Spur 2:
    I hear ya but federal laws has nothin to do with it state could have refused the land, but accepted with the board make up conditions and wimmin beters can play too there. We can cry all want but nothing can be done too bad if they had refused we would have 5 or 6 more winse on our resuma bcuz could have played SC State or Cidadel all these years instead of Clempsen.

    Clempsen lets wimmin beters play not like spurrier who does not wimmin beters play daboosweenie liks wimmin beters allamerican my but wimmin beter gets skuled by sanders last year and never tackle any cock in career. mcwifebeter is bad player not could play for my beluvad cocks cuz we dont lit wimmin beters play in columbia and dont talk jking cuz his charges made up columbia police make up charges on all our players and rumor about Jeri Spurrier not true.

    Wimmin beters go to clempsen cuz no one to tell on them he got charges dropped cuz money he gets from spillers lak house money fund slush.

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  52. By Max The Dog May 15, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    Max The Dog – learn how to use the Internet. You go around every blog in SC using a different name, but guess what? Your avatar remains the same* Wesley

    Right! You win the international Avatar contest and will be able to pick up the winning at the next Clemson Carolina game at halftime. One of the rules for winning the contest is that you must show up in a Carolina Transgender Sissy Crossdressing Cheerleader suit. Once again Congrats for being sharp enough to spot the Dog on the net…

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  53. By You Talkin to Me? May 15, 2010 at 4:33 pm

    Will: Speaking of sources, what about your sources about Bobby Harrell picking deans at USC? I love your muckraking, but would like to think it ain’t all fantasy….

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  54. By CNSYD May 15, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Spur2Fur, the answer to your question is simple. The “precedent” is an act of the SC legislature. Now exactly how does having the legislature appoint all BOT members prevent a “Good-Old-Boy” ruling majority, “sweetheart deals”, etc.? Why the whole point of this pointless article was to skewer a member of the Clemson BOT who got there by the exact method you advocate for all 13. I guess having a legislatively appointed BOT at USC prevented the subversion of the bid process in picking the architect for the new business school, right?

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  55. By CNSYD May 15, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    truthseeker, do you also believe the whole moon landing was done on a sound stage? If conditions are so bad at Clemson, why do scores and scores of applicants get denied admission? Seems like Clemson would be begging for students if it was as bad as you say. If those in “academia” have it so bad at Clemson, why haven’t they left? If nothing is known about research at Clemson, where do all those grants come from? Seems that your “story” has more holes than Swiss cheeze.

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  56. By SC6090 May 15, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    Nicky is known in Clover as “lying ass Nicky McCarter” hahahaha

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  57. By Helena B. May 16, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Reply to CNSYD:

    I agree with you that the delay in Troutman vs. Clemson is the judge, and add only that it seems queer as hell that this judge — Judge Perry — seems to have put this case on permanent hold. Judge Perry is reputed to be fair-minded but tough and by-the-book.

    Judge Perry, I understand, is in his 90s, and this may explain what now appears to me to be “non-justice” to both sides. Judge Perry’s behavior is now the topic of this lawsuit, as William Gladstone opined, “Justice delayed is justice denied.”

    And as others here have observed, the only ones making progress and receiving money are lawyers.

    Judge Perry, are you reading? Awake? Concerned about your legacy?

    Incidentally, CNYSD, Clemson’s board, according to Troutman’s complaint, is not exercising control over the school, despite their pedigree (US Ambassador to Canada, et cetera). Enron, AIG and HealthSouth all had “pedigree” boards that did not supervise the management of their organizations. These are called “amen” boards, in that they vote “amen” to management recommendations. They all had the hell sued out of themselves, and were only protected from civil lawsuits by D&O insurance policies. I am unimpressed with your “argumentum ad hominum.”

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  58. By PutSpur2Fur May 16, 2010 at 1:20 am

    I understand that there was probably a state legislative amendment that made arrangements to carry on the spirit of the will. That being said, without a legal foundation that legislative loophole may not stand up to modern scrutiny.

    If the will had contained other stipulations in keeping with the spirit of the days of Thomas Clemson, say restrictions on social status, religion and race, while they may have been acceptable conditions at the time of a legislative amendment, would they be conditions that would withstand scrutiny in today’s social and legal climate?

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  59. By TATERHATER May 16, 2010 at 8:45 am

    goodness 63-17 is almost as old as 56-20 so get over it

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  60. By CNSYD May 16, 2010 at 9:14 am

    Taterhater, it is always interesting how you cocks draw the line in the sand. In football only last year’s game is allowed to be discussed. When the topic is basketball you want to go back and count from the McQuire era so that you cover up the 7 straight losses. You can’t have it both ways.

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  61. By CNSYD May 16, 2010 at 9:27 am

    Helena B, if you think Clemson’s BOT is an “amen” board then it is obvious you know nothing of either how this BOT operates or the individual personalities on it. Only 2 Clemson employees work directly for the BOT. The President of the University and the Secretary to the BOT. That said, if you still harbor the illusion that this BOT will not directly get in the knickers of any department head who they think is not performing well, I suggest you contact Dr. Terry Don Phillips.

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  62. By CNSYD May 16, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Spur2Fur, the chief opponent to acceptance of Thomas Clemson’s will was USC. USC wanted the agricultural mission and the accompanying Federal money. (This is also interesting in that USC wanted an agricultural mission then but now USC fans abhor agriculture). The SC legislature accepted the will by the Act of Acceptance. There was a challenge to the Act in the courts but it did not prevail. So let me understand. You think that the Act needs to be revisited because “times have changed” yet you are probably the first one to scream bloody murder when the SCOTUS hands down a decision that provides a “modern” interpretation of a tenet of the Constitution. Is that correct? Or do just pick and choose?

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  63. By truthseeker May 16, 2010 at 12:20 pm

    CNYSD: I do not write what I think. I write what I know. Faculty in many departments are lining up to leave Clemson, most in disbelief of how things operate. As for your use of applicant numbers, never underestimate the power of legacy and promotion. Clemson is sold to prospective students like a bar of soap — and let us not forget that every other bar of soap in the country is merely “marginal.” The column below is only 100 percent accurate:

    http://free-times.com/index.php?cat=1992801082900549&z_Issue_ID=11011606090858617&ShowArchiveArticle_ID=11011606092484895&Year=2009

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  64. By truthseeker May 16, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    I do agree with you on one point, CNSYD: Judge Perry has failed to act in a timely manner. I can imagine no legitimate reason for the excessive delay.

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  65. By unbelievable May 16, 2010 at 4:00 pm

    i happen to know both of these people and they are nothing but terrific people. if you don’t know them personally or know the story keep your thoughts to yourself.

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  66. By PutSpur2Fur May 16, 2010 at 8:19 pm

    CNSYD, I’m very familiar with the social, economic and political factors that produced the great state we are all so proud to call home.

    I believe you’re referencing the hostility/bunker mentality that existed between the indigo and rice plantation owning aristocracy of the low country versus the yeomanly upstate farming communities. The struggle for power between those disparate cultures led to the capitol being located in Columbia, squarely between the rival parties.

    The fact is that special legislative considerations were made to accept a gift of land. In the process an inequality under the law was created that results in non-publicly appointed Trustees governing over a large portion of public funds.

    I’m saying that for a large grant of land you make certain concessions, but somewhere down the line, after proper respect to dying wishes has been extended many times over, after decades of social and political legislative changes have reversed the inequalities between peoples and the institutions that serve them, you cannot assume that the conditions that allowed for legislative passage in 1889, are still necessarily on solid legal footing.

    In the current political climate I want to see the politician that make a caree stand on an issue that reeks of money-for-position croniesm, even if it’s only a perceived stench.

    If the prevailing judicial wind is that Clemson’s Board structure is acceptable for a public institution then the option to adopt the same type of Trustee structure should be made available to every public educational institution in the state currently required to operate under a different set of regulations.

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  67. By PutSpur2Fur May 16, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    “i happen to know both of these people and they are nothing but terrific people. if you don’t know them personally or know the story keep your thoughts to yourself.” – unbelievable

    Nice free speech attitude.

    Do you have a book burning bon fire planned for later this summer?

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  68. By Robert May 16, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    Nick McCarter should be put in jail. He is a bully, and a punk.

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  69. By CNSYD May 16, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    truthseeker, I do not doubt what you say irt faculty but it has been my observation over many years that utterances of faculty are usually sound and fury signifying nothing. It reminds me of those celebs who vowed to leave the US if Bush was reelected. Barker will remain at the helm until the BOT decides otherwise. Whether we agree or disagree matters not. The BOT fired Atchley and eased Curris and Lennon out the door. If they see a need to act irt Barker they will. However it is also my observation that the BOT will not be bullied by employees, which is what faculty are whether they believe it or not. It is not unique that Clemson is “sold” to prospective students. What schools in this state don’t do that?

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  70. By croberts May 17, 2010 at 10:58 am

    Wake up just because he is a good guy doesn’t mean he didn’t have anything to do with it. Get your head out of the sand.

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  71. By CNSYD May 17, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    Spur2Fur, the impetus for the acceptance of Clemson’s will was the common man (agricultural) vs the aristocracy regardless of their domicile. As a concession, the Act of Acceptance included a requirement that matters that involved the expenditure of state funds required a 2/3 vote so that the life trustee majority would not prevail simply due to their majority of one. I would assume that all other state schools are happy with the makeup of their governing board or else they would be seeking change. The Board of Visitors at The Citadel is required to be composed of SC residents and they must ALL be graduates of The Citadel. How is that for diversity? But if they are happy, I am happy. So from whence comes this hue and cry to change the composition of the Clemson BOT?

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  72. By truthseeker May 17, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    CNSYD, The time to move Barker out the door has now passed, with the BOT shirking its responsibility to the state of South Carolina. The president has entered his second decade at the helm, having embarassed the university nationally regarding U.S. News and granting the members of his inner-circle massive pay raises while requiring 5-days fuloughs of everyone on campus. The BOT approved a 40-percent tuition hike in one year, helping to build a slush fund of approximately $80 million. Other credits to the administration, in general, include lying about the origins of the Hunley submarine project, lying about the theft of equipment from the outdoor laboratory, and maliciously attempting to ruin a whistle blower’s career in veterinary medicine.

    Politically, if the BOT called for Barker to resign, it would lend assistance to the Troutman case. Troutman has filed suit against most of the BOT as well as Barker and the provost. The last thing they want to do is cause a problem in the circling of the wagons.

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  73. By CNSYD May 17, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    truthseeker, is it true or not true that ALL employees, from Barker on down, were required to take a 5 day furlough? The real measure of “massive” irt pay is when it is indeed “massive” in comparison to peers at like institutions. Well, is it? You continue to put all your eggs in the Troutman basket. Have you seen ALL the evidence submitted by the defendants? I haven’t. I suppose that all the businesses locating themselves at ICAR were really “embarassed” over accusations irt US News, right? Also it affected the wind turbine work coming to Charleston, right? Who cares about US NEWS except those alums whose schools aren’t in its top tier and a bunch of academics? So what you are saying is that Barker owes Troutman for increasing his tenure. Do you suppose they made an under the table deal? Might as well start that rumor also.

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  74. By truthseeker May 17, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Certainly true that everyone had to take 5-day furloughs, as I indicated. I call “massive” moving from approximately $145k per year to 275k per year — in 3 years time. That is the raise given to the provost during difficult economic times. For an indication of her performance, read the faculty survey — and also read up on how the university attempted to avoid releasing salary data to campus media in 2008. With regard to funded research, please understand the difference between “because of” and “in spite of.” Clemson has pockets of very talented scholars, and they are able to obtain grants and attract companies (to ICAR) based on their own records and what they can offer. As far as U.S. News goes, the administration is beginning to work on alibis should the university drop in the rankings. They still believe they did nothing wrong last year and will undoubtedly blame class sizes or some other criterion if the university does not fare well this year.

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  75. By ClemsonAspernator May 17, 2010 at 11:53 pm

    McDaniel received a “deferred suspension” for beating his girlfriend….its not like Tommy Bowden let it sided, duh.

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  76. By CNSYD May 18, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    ClemsonAspernator, at what trial (you do understand that a trial before a judge is required by the judicial system, don’t you?) was it admitted to or proven that McDaniel beat his girlfriend? As has been shown in other cases, not only at Clemson, if you punish someone for something that has not been proven in a court of law, you are setting yourself up for a civil suit. Therefore the deference was until the case was adjudicated.

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  77. By Tommy May 18, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Dear Wesley Dunahue – McCarter’s son is a white piece of trash like his father. Anybody who raises a son to think it is ok to wreck golf carts into a pond, and turf up greens is no stand-up guy, and not a good father. I will be a hater all I want, because it affected my bank account douche bag. This guy is a scum, and obviously his ex-wife saw the light and ran like hell. There, finished.

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  78. By CNSYD May 18, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    truthseeker, 2 questions. Why are you ignoring my point of comparing salaries to peers at like schools? Maybe $275k is average, I don’t know. Secondly, I was not aware that the faculty was the employer of the Provost, so what does their “survey” matter? Academics (read those who can not compete in the real world) think they are in charge. I don’t think so.

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  79. By truthseeker May 18, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    CNSYD, Try visiting a bonafide research institution — Michigan, Wisconsin, Cal, North Carolina, etc. You’ll see the balance that is struck between faculty and administrators concerning university governance. And since you have taken many shots at faculty, allow me to retort that the reason many administrators become such is because they cannot “compete” as intellectuals (i.e., they cannot publish original scholarship in top-tier journals). If anyone has it made on the Clemson campus, it is most certainly those in the central administration. Try picturing Mel Brooks bouncing up and down in his chair in Blazing Saddles. “Work, work, work . . . Work, work, work . . . Work, work, work . . .”

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  80. By CNSYD May 18, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    truthseeker, the problem is that most faculty can’t walk and chew gum at the same time or else they would be in a higher paying gig. IRT published papers, I recall a Provost years ago (one who actually had both feet on the ground) reading out the titles of PhD theses. After each one he would say, “there were actually 3 people in the world who cared”. Never forget that a thermometer is not the only thing that has degrees and no brains.

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  81. By ClemsonAspernator May 18, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    CNSYD, court of law has nothing to do with Tommy Bowden placing McDaniel on “deferred suspension” I didn’t make up that term, that can from Tommy Bowden’s mouth. Everyone knows he beat her a$$, choked her and threw her down flight of stairs and that the backassward law in Clemson covered it up. Everybody but you, apparently.

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  82. By CNSYD May 19, 2010 at 2:58 am

    ClemsonAspernator, EVERYONE is a term that people love to throw around but it is meaningless. All people on earth know it? How do they KNOW it? Were they eye witnesses? Were you? I wasn’t. What has “law in Clemson” got to do with anything? The alleged incident did not occur in Clemson. Tommy Bowden can use whatever term he desires, but he knows the legal pitfalls of applying punishment for an allegation that has yet to be handled by the courts. Trial lawyers love to get cases like that. For some reason, Tommy Bowden is no longer a “player” in this saga. He hasn’t been for quite a while. Also this article is about an alleged incident in the Midlands. No charges have been filed, so does that mean the law in the Midlands is “backassward”?

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  83. By Wandered on here May 21, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    You people are sad. I wandered on here from a sports link and read some of your garbage. Thank you for making me a little dumber. This is a joke.

    First of all..um.. “journalistic integrity”. I think I’m just going type some stuff up here on the old interweb because I heard from a “source”… um “bubba” that it happened.

    Secondly, you losers going back and forth about football and Swinney and Five Points. Go do something productive. Volunteer in a soup kitchen or clean up your front yard. Look at porn. At least that is a means to an end. Idiots.

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  84. By CNSYD May 21, 2010 at 2:54 pm

    Wandered, and your end is?

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  85. By CNSYD May 21, 2010 at 4:14 pm

    Wandered, I have spoken to Sir Big Spur and we will be glad to serve you your meals at the soup kitchen.

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  86. By truthteller May 22, 2010 at 1:55 am

    “Tommy”

    Nicky McCarters “ex-wife” did not run like hell. She passed away. Cass McCarter was a kind hearted women and a very active philanthropist. I dare you to find a living soul that has one unkind word to say about her.

    SHAME on fitsnews for printing this child’s name!!! Yes, he participated in a very irresponsible incident, along with a very large number of other children. Children do things, especially during the teenage years, that are not very well thought out or smart. Point the finger at the wrong doing of other peoples children and see how fast God teaches you lesson through your own. Not making excuses for him but this is a child that is crying out for attention. His father’s girlfriend was targeted and the golf carts were in her pool as well. If that doesn’t tell you he is affected by the loss of his mother, you’re a moron.

    ALL of these children should be punished and the court should decide who pays for what!!! Attacking the child and calling him names really shows him, huh? Shame on you all and shame on his father for not setting a better example.

    Who gives a crap that Nicky McCarter is on Clemson’s Board. Neither man had a child playing in the soccer game and the game had nothing to do with USC, words were exchanged regarding the golf course incident. No EXCUSE FOR THE ASSAULT!

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  87. By edward stone III May 22, 2010 at 10:52 am

    You boobs state your hate at seemingly every opportunity. Even when it’s not relevant to the topic at hand. As a native Columbian now living out of state, you seem so petty and silly. Imagine the Hatfields and Mcoys. Be proud and supportive of your
    state and all it’s schools. Scream at each other all game day long if you want. You should be much more concerned about the blindly righteous evangelical conservatives ( many hypocrites )you elect to state and national political posts some huge percentage of the time. Lighten up people. I’m far from perfect. I know though you’ll have happier lives giving up the bitter sniping over of all things collegiate sports.
    I come from a Clemson family too. I was infected at birth to be a Tiger fan but I was never taught to hate USC. I never acquired it on my own as a bad habit either.

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  88. By CNSYD May 22, 2010 at 8:39 pm

    edward stone III, since you say you no longer live here, then you don’t get to hear all the “comments” that we in this state do. Is it unique? No. Try Alabama-Auburn or Georgia-Georgia Tech or Texas-Texas A&M. If the individual who is the subject of this article had NOT been a trustee of Clemson, do you suppose it would have seen the light of day? I think not.

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  89. By edward stone III May 23, 2010 at 10:17 am

    the other people in other states sounding foolish for nagging, ragging on each other over sports is no less silly and not an excuse-in my eyes. I was not going to add this since it would only fuel the flames a bit. I spent more or less 30 years of my life in columbia. Per family business interests and location we worked closely with USC-as an institution. We so happened to employ many students over the years. Being Clemson fans in Columbia we often challenged because of it. Sometimes more aggressively and negatively than others. We never started it either. Never is a long time but especially since CU’s athletics started to dominate the rivalry it did not leave much room for debate. IN ALL FAIRNESS I know there are a!hole CU fans too. Gamecock fans right in the heart of Clemson likely get ragged too but not with the hate and ferocity I see gamecocks direct at the Tigers. In all honesty I’ve never seen that level of hate from CU towards USC. USC also puts out like twice as many students so there are more of them fighting for their school. Again that goes back to the current state of the rivalry and CU’s dominance. Maybe that will flip flop over a long period of time but that’s just the way it is now. There’s some understandable anger and insecurity. None of that warrants all the negative energy wasted between the fan bases. There are those tigers that say coots this coots that. I’ll tell them that’s silly too. USC is in the largest, most metropolitan media center for the state. That means higher visibility. If that means gamecock athletes have to be even more mindful of staying out of trouble then that’s just the way it is. Tommy Bowden was nearly 100% a devout christian goody two shoes type. I don’t mean that in especially complimentary fashion either. His recruits for the most part measurably avoided the troubles that have befallen a large number more gamecock athletes. There is no debating that USC recruits, for some time historically and currently have had more issues off the field. Often before they got into school so the difference in law enforcement reach or media coverage does not apply. In closing you are likely correct were this guy not a trustee there’s not much press. BUT, how does that lead into jibing over athletics? I like seeing both schools and the state in general progress and succeed. Build up your own school. Don’t put so much into tearing each other down. It’s not just a new age concept that negative energy begets negativity. Be happy, support your favorite.
    If one fan encounters another dickhead fan just ignore them. They’re not worth it. That’s my .02
    Making SC a better, more prosperous, healthier and happier place to live does not come from wishing ill upon or arguing with perceived rivals. Of course this notion will be long lost upon many of you as there would not appear to be anything other than Carolina vs. Clemson or arch conservatism going on there.
    The OVERWHELMING and likely somewhat unfair blanket image of the state comes from the bad things emanating from SC. The only thing the world hears from the palmetto state-my home- is at LEAST 90+% negative horrible image damaging stuff vs.10% or less good news. Thank God for Stephen Colbert or maybe Shawn Weatherly. Throw in national football title for CU and a Heisman for George Rogers. Otherwise the state has a deserved major black eye image wise.

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  90. By edward stone III May 23, 2010 at 10:37 am

    oh hey there. sorry, quite a few typos in there. also too I need to credit the large number of excellent entries just debating the politics, academic and budget issues. peace out my palmetto state brothers n sisters! :)

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  91. By CNSYD May 23, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    edward stone III, In a previous life I did the engineer hiring for a large industrial concern. There was very little difference between the grads of either engineering school. We hired more Clemson grads since their engineering school is larger and thus we had a larger pool to choose from. How did these guys get along on the job? Absolutely no problem. Did they jab each other about the other school? All the time but it was all in fun. My observation is that those people with the most “hatred” probably never attended either school and thus are outsiders at best. IRT opinions of other parts of the country about SC
    is, IMHO, media fanned. What these people in other areas need to do is heed the Biblical advice found in Matthew 7:5, “Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye.” We in SC are accused of being prejudiced. I have never seen prejudice in SC on the scale I have seen it in the Northern states. I am not talking black and white here. It is every type of religious and ethnic prejudice you can imagine.

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  92. By edward stone III May 24, 2010 at 7:54 am

    I hear what you’re saying. The worst offenders as rude fans are often not educated alumni of either or maybe having any higher learning! ;) Still they are fans that one would hope at some point as people too they learn to
    chill out a bit. :) I am aware of the northern prejudice you refer to I think that they will admit too theirs just being more up front in your face obvious. I won’t bore you with the details but I come from a prejudiced upbringing. I’m still not sexually attracted to anyone who is darker than what some tanning can do for you. I’ve not been able to overcome that. My grandparents and parents who were otherwise very good people believed in separation of the gene pools. My father was worse. My mother is better. My father was somewhat delusional from strokes as he was essentially dying-a major heart attack finished him off just weeks later. He actually used the N word in insulting fashion in the presence of an elderly black orderly assisting in his care. It was wrong and embarrassing. My grandfather was kind and generous to his black employees and maids. Still there was a barrier there. Anyway, for example, I am nearly 100% certain that dumb arse Joe Wilson would not have shouted out “liar” had it been a white man speaking as president. It’s truly disingenuous to say otherwise. That is his more subtle prejudice run amok. He just couldn’t help himself. The less obvious, more subtle is more typical for southern society. I do know this to be true. Thanks

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