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		<title>By: SnakeMD</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2010/03/16/report-beware-of-patriots/#comment-93086</link>
		<dc:creator>SnakeMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dum Spiro, your reply is very well written and appears convincing if you know nothing about the SPLC.   However, it just so happens that Mark Kelly, a conservative intellectual radio talk show host, on his national show today, devoted the entire afternoon to this very topic.  (if you are liberal I&#039;m sure you are going to say that you can&#039;t be an intellectual and a conservative at the same time)   I&#039;ve been following the SPLC since the late 1970&#039;s and I can assure you that their agenda depicts most conservative pro-second amendment advocates as nut jobs.  You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.   There are fringe groups on the left as well as the right.  Sorry, I do not care for the SPLC and/or their southern mule population charts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dum Spiro, your reply is very well written and appears convincing if you know nothing about the SPLC.   However, it just so happens that Mark Kelly, a conservative intellectual radio talk show host, on his national show today, devoted the entire afternoon to this very topic.  (if you are liberal I&#8217;m sure you are going to say that you can&#8217;t be an intellectual and a conservative at the same time)   I&#8217;ve been following the SPLC since the late 1970&#8242;s and I can assure you that their agenda depicts most conservative pro-second amendment advocates as nut jobs.  You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine.   There are fringe groups on the left as well as the right.  Sorry, I do not care for the SPLC and/or their southern mule population charts.</p>
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		<title>By: SnakeMD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SnakeMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I get a rush out of exploding milk jugs at 1,000 yards with with my .50 cal target rifle does that make me a kook?   Seeing how close you can get to the pin with a 3 iron is the same thing.   I spend a couple of bucks on a few cartridges and I get a  lot of smoke and noise for my money.   We can&#039;t drink beer at the range, so I spend way less money than if I had played 18.   We are just a few moments away from the government saying that people who enjoy firearms are dangerous and are a threat to society.    Go figure...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I get a rush out of exploding milk jugs at 1,000 yards with with my .50 cal target rifle does that make me a kook?   Seeing how close you can get to the pin with a 3 iron is the same thing.   I spend a couple of bucks on a few cartridges and I get a  lot of smoke and noise for my money.   We can&#8217;t drink beer at the range, so I spend way less money than if I had played 18.   We are just a few moments away from the government saying that people who enjoy firearms are dangerous and are a threat to society.    Go figure&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Mathews</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2010/03/16/report-beware-of-patriots/#comment-91989</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny Mathews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dum Spiro, thanks for telling me I&#039;m a &quot;racist&quot;, and a &quot;armed anti-Semitic&quot;, I&#039;d have never known, if you hadn&#039;t told me, although, then again, the SPLC has been telling me that for years, although, all sarcasm aside, I&#039;m sorry to disappoint you, and to inform you that you&#039;re both as wrong as each other,

It&#039;s rather ironic that a comment beginning &quot;Get your facts straight, Sic, before you pull the trigger…&quot;, should be so devoid of any facts itself.

I&#039;m afraid, as others have said, the SPLC is, itself, a hate group these days, that exists by stirring up racial tensions, and then profiting on the back of it, which is why so many groups are targeted in their hate list, despite being nothing more than groups of concerned, and patriotic citizens.

If you, or anyone else, truly wants to get a clue, rather than perusing malicious gossip sites, like the SPLC&#039;s, you&#039;re more than welcome to visit our next get together, which will be in Idaho, and rest assured, you have nothing to fear, as the only &quot;armed&quot; folk you&#039;re likely to encounter are the children, running around with water pistols, and super-soakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dum Spiro, thanks for telling me I&#8217;m a &#8220;racist&#8221;, and a &#8220;armed anti-Semitic&#8221;, I&#8217;d have never known, if you hadn&#8217;t told me, although, then again, the SPLC has been telling me that for years, although, all sarcasm aside, I&#8217;m sorry to disappoint you, and to inform you that you&#8217;re both as wrong as each other,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s rather ironic that a comment beginning &#8220;Get your facts straight, Sic, before you pull the trigger…&#8221;, should be so devoid of any facts itself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid, as others have said, the SPLC is, itself, a hate group these days, that exists by stirring up racial tensions, and then profiting on the back of it, which is why so many groups are targeted in their hate list, despite being nothing more than groups of concerned, and patriotic citizens.</p>
<p>If you, or anyone else, truly wants to get a clue, rather than perusing malicious gossip sites, like the SPLC&#8217;s, you&#8217;re more than welcome to visit our next get together, which will be in Idaho, and rest assured, you have nothing to fear, as the only &#8220;armed&#8221; folk you&#8217;re likely to encounter are the children, running around with water pistols, and super-soakers.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The SPLC is itself a hate group. The SPLC is a much discredited organization with a very shady fundraising record. Morris Dees, the co-founder of Southern Poverty Law Center, is a master of hate-mongering and utilizing scare tactics in order to pressure mostly minorities and elderly contributors into donating money to the SPLC.

The tax-exempt SPLC flunked an audit by the Arlington-based Better Business Bureau&#039;s Wise Giving Alliance, which requires that &quot;a reasonable percentage, at least 50 percent of total income from all sources, should be applied to programs and activities directly related to the purposes for which the organization exists.&quot; The SPLC spent only 11 percent of its total income on programs and activities directly related to the purposes for which the organization exists. The other 89 percent of the SPLC&#039;s total income was spent on fund-raising and administrative costs, including high salaries for its top officials.

The SPLC is comprised of a group of slick, parasitic hucksters who live high on the hog by raising money on behalf of needy people who see very little of it.

SPLC&#039;s sole function in the immigration debate is to try to discredit any group or organization that supports a reduction in the level of legal immigration and/or the enforcement of immigration laws against illegal aliens. Any group or organization that dares to speak out against illegal immigration takes on the risk of being added to the SPLC&#039;s infamous &quot;hate groups&quot; list as punishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SPLC is itself a hate group. The SPLC is a much discredited organization with a very shady fundraising record. Morris Dees, the co-founder of Southern Poverty Law Center, is a master of hate-mongering and utilizing scare tactics in order to pressure mostly minorities and elderly contributors into donating money to the SPLC.</p>
<p>The tax-exempt SPLC flunked an audit by the Arlington-based Better Business Bureau&#8217;s Wise Giving Alliance, which requires that &#8220;a reasonable percentage, at least 50 percent of total income from all sources, should be applied to programs and activities directly related to the purposes for which the organization exists.&#8221; The SPLC spent only 11 percent of its total income on programs and activities directly related to the purposes for which the organization exists. The other 89 percent of the SPLC&#8217;s total income was spent on fund-raising and administrative costs, including high salaries for its top officials.</p>
<p>The SPLC is comprised of a group of slick, parasitic hucksters who live high on the hog by raising money on behalf of needy people who see very little of it.</p>
<p>SPLC&#8217;s sole function in the immigration debate is to try to discredit any group or organization that supports a reduction in the level of legal immigration and/or the enforcement of immigration laws against illegal aliens. Any group or organization that dares to speak out against illegal immigration takes on the risk of being added to the SPLC&#8217;s infamous &#8220;hate groups&#8221; list as punishment.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Keefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicupstate, Dees&#039; 1991 autobiography, &quot;A Season For Justice,&quot; is still under copyright, so there is no link to it. It is still in print, however, or your local library can get you a copy through Interlibrary Loan. You can find the closest copy here (http://www.worldcat.org/)

My blog is VERY much dedicated to exposing the public relations fund-raising tactics of the SPLC, and its minor offshoot, Brian Levin&#039;s one-man &quot;Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism&quot; at Cal State/San Bernardino. For the record, however, unlike his mentors at the SPLC, Levin has never used his letterhead &quot;center&quot; for financial gain, to my knowledge. (http://wp.me/pCLYZ-J)

As for &quot;bankrupting the KKK,&quot; Dees did bring a CIVIL suit against an Alabama Klan chapter on behalf of Beulah Mae Donald, whose son was brutally murdered by two of their members.

Dees sent out thousands of fund-raising letters with a gruesome photo of Michael Donald&#039;s bloated corpse, which brought in more than $9 million donor dollars to the SPLC. Dees won a $7 million dollar judgment against the Klan chapter, which had to sell its only asset, an old warehouse worth $52,000 dollars.

Mrs. Donald got the measly fifty-two grand, the Klan had to find another place to put its stuff, (not ONE additional Klan member went to prison for the crime), and the SPLC pocketed the $9 million. Mrs. Donald never saw one red cent of that money. (http://wp.me/pCLYZ-14)

Dees has repeated this glorified ambulance chasing gimmick several times since:

1. Klan thugs break the law. Go to prison.
2. Dees steps in after the fact, brings hyped-up civil suit, sends out continuous fund-raising materials.
3. Judge awards huge settlement, which cannot possibly be collected.
4. Plaintiffs receive minuscule, token settlement, SPLC rakes in MILLIONS of donor dollars.
5. No additional Klansmen are sentenced due to Dees&#039; suit.

Morris Dees has gotten more Klansmen OUT of prison than he&#039;s ever sent there. As Sid says above, name ONE SINGLE &quot;hater&quot; that Dees or the SPLC ever put in jail. Just one.

And as for the &quot;racist jury&quot; theory, Claude Henley was appearing in Bobby Kennedy&#039;s federal court, not before some backwoods magistrate. You may be right, however, but I think that even in Alabama, the Feds did things a little differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicupstate, Dees&#8217; 1991 autobiography, &#8220;A Season For Justice,&#8221; is still under copyright, so there is no link to it. It is still in print, however, or your local library can get you a copy through Interlibrary Loan. You can find the closest copy here (<a href="http://www.worldcat.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldcat.org/</a>)</p>
<p>My blog is VERY much dedicated to exposing the public relations fund-raising tactics of the SPLC, and its minor offshoot, Brian Levin&#8217;s one-man &#8220;Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism&#8221; at Cal State/San Bernardino. For the record, however, unlike his mentors at the SPLC, Levin has never used his letterhead &#8220;center&#8221; for financial gain, to my knowledge. (<a href="http://wp.me/pCLYZ-J" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/pCLYZ-J</a>)</p>
<p>As for &#8220;bankrupting the KKK,&#8221; Dees did bring a CIVIL suit against an Alabama Klan chapter on behalf of Beulah Mae Donald, whose son was brutally murdered by two of their members.</p>
<p>Dees sent out thousands of fund-raising letters with a gruesome photo of Michael Donald&#8217;s bloated corpse, which brought in more than $9 million donor dollars to the SPLC. Dees won a $7 million dollar judgment against the Klan chapter, which had to sell its only asset, an old warehouse worth $52,000 dollars.</p>
<p>Mrs. Donald got the measly fifty-two grand, the Klan had to find another place to put its stuff, (not ONE additional Klan member went to prison for the crime), and the SPLC pocketed the $9 million. Mrs. Donald never saw one red cent of that money. (<a href="http://wp.me/pCLYZ-14" rel="nofollow">http://wp.me/pCLYZ-14</a>)</p>
<p>Dees has repeated this glorified ambulance chasing gimmick several times since:</p>
<p>1. Klan thugs break the law. Go to prison.<br />
2. Dees steps in after the fact, brings hyped-up civil suit, sends out continuous fund-raising materials.<br />
3. Judge awards huge settlement, which cannot possibly be collected.<br />
4. Plaintiffs receive minuscule, token settlement, SPLC rakes in MILLIONS of donor dollars.<br />
5. No additional Klansmen are sentenced due to Dees&#8217; suit.</p>
<p>Morris Dees has gotten more Klansmen OUT of prison than he&#8217;s ever sent there. As Sid says above, name ONE SINGLE &#8220;hater&#8221; that Dees or the SPLC ever put in jail. Just one.</p>
<p>And as for the &#8220;racist jury&#8221; theory, Claude Henley was appearing in Bobby Kennedy&#8217;s federal court, not before some backwoods magistrate. You may be right, however, but I think that even in Alabama, the Feds did things a little differently.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an age-old practice amongst left-wing groups.  They label ANYONE who opposes them, their opinions, as racist groups.  I mean how dare anyone refer to Obama as a Socialist since he&#039;s surrounded himself with such individuals?  How dare anyone stand up for the Constitution and object to a $14 trillion debt?  Why you&#039;re all racist radical groups.  The SPLC is a joke.  Dees has amassed a fortune and built a massive headquarters off of labeling everyone as radical hate-mongers.  They&#039;re just like the NAACP just another &quot;klan with a tan&quot; racist group themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an age-old practice amongst left-wing groups.  They label ANYONE who opposes them, their opinions, as racist groups.  I mean how dare anyone refer to Obama as a Socialist since he&#8217;s surrounded himself with such individuals?  How dare anyone stand up for the Constitution and object to a $14 trillion debt?  Why you&#8217;re all racist radical groups.  The SPLC is a joke.  Dees has amassed a fortune and built a massive headquarters off of labeling everyone as radical hate-mongers.  They&#8217;re just like the NAACP just another &#8220;klan with a tan&#8221; racist group themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who did Dees put behind bars, vic?  For what jurisdiction was he a prosecutor?

Also, his efforts helped integrate the Montgomery YMCA, not the entire YMCA.  I know you&#039;ve got a boner for him, but let&#039;s not get carried away.

The SPLC (or SLPC, if you prefer) lost its focus a while back.  It no longer performs the function for which it was started, much like unions.  Like I said before, read the &quot;report,&quot; then tell me it isn&#039;t fear-mongering hatred from radical leftists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who did Dees put behind bars, vic?  For what jurisdiction was he a prosecutor?</p>
<p>Also, his efforts helped integrate the Montgomery YMCA, not the entire YMCA.  I know you&#8217;ve got a boner for him, but let&#8217;s not get carried away.</p>
<p>The SPLC (or SLPC, if you prefer) lost its focus a while back.  It no longer performs the function for which it was started, much like unions.  Like I said before, read the &#8220;report,&#8221; then tell me it isn&#8217;t fear-mongering hatred from radical leftists.</p>
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		<title>By: vicupstate</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2010/03/16/report-beware-of-patriots/#comment-90497</link>
		<dc:creator>vicupstate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have not provided a link to the book, so I cannot verify your story.  I will see if the library has the book.  I found no reference on the SLPC website mentioning this either. The Life article does not mention Dees as the incident had just occurred, whcih wa prior to any trial.   

Your blog seems devoted to one topic, that being the SLPC.  Do you have a problem with an organization that single-handedly bankrupted the KKK, and integrated the YMCA and similiar organizations?  

If indeed Dees, with less than two years practicing law, got Hanley off, it no doubt had more to do with a racist jury than  Dees&#039; legal acumen. Perhaps Dees felt everyone is entitled to a lawyer.  Many respectable lawyers and citizens would agree. 

Regardless of his motives, he has redeemed himself via the the Klansmen and other scum he has put behind bars.  A hero indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have not provided a link to the book, so I cannot verify your story.  I will see if the library has the book.  I found no reference on the SLPC website mentioning this either. The Life article does not mention Dees as the incident had just occurred, whcih wa prior to any trial.   </p>
<p>Your blog seems devoted to one topic, that being the SLPC.  Do you have a problem with an organization that single-handedly bankrupted the KKK, and integrated the YMCA and similiar organizations?  </p>
<p>If indeed Dees, with less than two years practicing law, got Hanley off, it no doubt had more to do with a racist jury than  Dees&#8217; legal acumen. Perhaps Dees felt everyone is entitled to a lawyer.  Many respectable lawyers and citizens would agree. </p>
<p>Regardless of his motives, he has redeemed himself via the the Klansmen and other scum he has put behind bars.  A hero indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Keefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicupstate, if you actually READ my blog you&#039;ll see that every last link goes back to the SPLC&#039;s own website and/or Klan lawyer Morris Dees own autobiography. 

I&#039;ve cited every last claim. If you have proof that the SPLC&#039;s own sources are wrong, you have a duty to present your evidence here.

I&#039;m sorry if it offends you that your heroes are racists, I truly am, but like the Ghost says to Scrooge:

 &quot;I told you these were shadows of the things that have been,&#039; said the Ghost. &#039;That they are what they are, do not blame me!&quot;

And here&#039;s the link to THAT quote: (http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/DicChri.html)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicupstate, if you actually READ my blog you&#8217;ll see that every last link goes back to the SPLC&#8217;s own website and/or Klan lawyer Morris Dees own autobiography. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve cited every last claim. If you have proof that the SPLC&#8217;s own sources are wrong, you have a duty to present your evidence here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry if it offends you that your heroes are racists, I truly am, but like the Ghost says to Scrooge:</p>
<p> &#8220;I told you these were shadows of the things that have been,&#8217; said the Ghost. &#8216;That they are what they are, do not blame me!&#8221;</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the link to THAT quote: (<a href="http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/DicChri.html" rel="nofollow">http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/DicChri.html</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: thirdworldrathole</title>
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		<dc:creator>thirdworldrathole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Team Obama wasted no time in following Saul Alinsky&#039;s &quot;Rules for Radicals&quot; which calls for &quot;polarizing your enemy...&quot;

Within weeks of Obama&#039;s inauguration, Obama&#039;s Home Land Security Head sent memos to all law enforcement agencies outrageously profiling retired military veterans as possible &quot;terrorists&quot;.

Oddly enough, it took Obama about six months to label the Fort Hood murders as an act of terrorism and at least 3 months to associate the underwear bomber with the word terrorist...

To my knowledge, the only violence at Tea Party rallies have been anti-tea party leftists assaulting unarmed septogenarians--one of whom lost an appendage after a cannibalistic attack...

Expect the Saul Alinsky tactics against Tea Party participants to escalate as Obama&#039;s satist policies continue to meet rejection  from law-abiding, middle class Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Team Obama wasted no time in following Saul Alinsky&#8217;s &#8220;Rules for Radicals&#8221; which calls for &#8220;polarizing your enemy&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Within weeks of Obama&#8217;s inauguration, Obama&#8217;s Home Land Security Head sent memos to all law enforcement agencies outrageously profiling retired military veterans as possible &#8220;terrorists&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oddly enough, it took Obama about six months to label the Fort Hood murders as an act of terrorism and at least 3 months to associate the underwear bomber with the word terrorist&#8230;</p>
<p>To my knowledge, the only violence at Tea Party rallies have been anti-tea party leftists assaulting unarmed septogenarians&#8211;one of whom lost an appendage after a cannibalistic attack&#8230;</p>
<p>Expect the Saul Alinsky tactics against Tea Party participants to escalate as Obama&#8217;s satist policies continue to meet rejection  from law-abiding, middle class Americans.</p>
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