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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 23:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No wonder men fall in arrears.
 Take their income from the last two years that included overtime, bonuses, ect. Then set child support from that, and expect the payer to keep up with that when there company no longer offers overtime, or worse yet has periodic layoffs because it&#039;s slow. It takes (at least in our area) 6 months for a man to get in and have their case reviewed, then sometimes they still do not get it lowered. No matter what a man can fall in to arrears at any given job, even if he has had the same job for 10yrs. Sometimes it is not the mans fault that his work company is slow but that doesn&#039;t matter to the system. But in the other court let the woman sit at home, no job and collect welfare and live off the payer......Nice ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder men fall in arrears.<br />
 Take their income from the last two years that included overtime, bonuses, ect. Then set child support from that, and expect the payer to keep up with that when there company no longer offers overtime, or worse yet has periodic layoffs because it&#8217;s slow. It takes (at least in our area) 6 months for a man to get in and have their case reviewed, then sometimes they still do not get it lowered. No matter what a man can fall in to arrears at any given job, even if he has had the same job for 10yrs. Sometimes it is not the mans fault that his work company is slow but that doesn&#8217;t matter to the system. But in the other court let the woman sit at home, no job and collect welfare and live off the payer&#8230;&#8230;Nice &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lilly Collette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilly Collette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A White woman 3 months pregnant by an Asian man forged the name of a disabled White man to a marriage license and 6 months after the forgery gave birth to a fully Asian featured b@stard. 

Ooops!!! 

She then divorced her victim and verbally alleged that her victim had agreed to sign over his home to her and pay her $200.00 a month to support the (bastard) child.

The court supported her in all of her crimes. Sound too strage to be true?

See, Charleston County S.C. family court case file# 87-DR-10-00294.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A White woman 3 months pregnant by an Asian man forged the name of a disabled White man to a marriage license and 6 months after the forgery gave birth to a fully Asian featured b@stard. </p>
<p>Ooops!!! </p>
<p>She then divorced her victim and verbally alleged that her victim had agreed to sign over his home to her and pay her $200.00 a month to support the (bastard) child.</p>
<p>The court supported her in all of her crimes. Sound too strage to be true?</p>
<p>See, Charleston County S.C. family court case file# 87-DR-10-00294.</p>
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		<title>By: WorkingTommyC</title>
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		<dc:creator>WorkingTommyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except in cases of violence, how about making divorce dependent on both parties having to agree to get divorced?  

A lot of men don&#039;t want to marry nowadays due to their knowing they could be taken to the cleaners at the whim of the woman who goes astray when she decides she likes having carnal relations with someone else.  In cases of divorce, there is a great inequity of legal power in marriages in favor of the wife who is also a mother.

If there were a divorce &quot;veto,&quot; many who feel inclined to cheat or look for other opportunities while they&#039;re still married might think twice.  It would also make couples work harder to make things work out if one spouse stands firm in favor of the marriage and forces the other to stay in and work it out.  

This is not the &quot;perfect solution&quot; but it could go a long ways in taking the rashness and emotionalism out of divorces and restore some balance of power.  Unlike the one year waiting period, this would not force the couple to separate which only contributes to their immediate alienation.

A lot of folks make the mistake of marrying the wrong person.  There&#039;s no reason to punish the children for their mistakes, however.  My own parents have pretty much conceded that they&#039;d have been a happy old couple if they&#039;d stuck it out despite the hard times.  I certainly wish they had.  From what I know of the situation, a veto would have caused them to stay together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except in cases of violence, how about making divorce dependent on both parties having to agree to get divorced?  </p>
<p>A lot of men don&#8217;t want to marry nowadays due to their knowing they could be taken to the cleaners at the whim of the woman who goes astray when she decides she likes having carnal relations with someone else.  In cases of divorce, there is a great inequity of legal power in marriages in favor of the wife who is also a mother.</p>
<p>If there were a divorce &#8220;veto,&#8221; many who feel inclined to cheat or look for other opportunities while they&#8217;re still married might think twice.  It would also make couples work harder to make things work out if one spouse stands firm in favor of the marriage and forces the other to stay in and work it out.  </p>
<p>This is not the &#8220;perfect solution&#8221; but it could go a long ways in taking the rashness and emotionalism out of divorces and restore some balance of power.  Unlike the one year waiting period, this would not force the couple to separate which only contributes to their immediate alienation.</p>
<p>A lot of folks make the mistake of marrying the wrong person.  There&#8217;s no reason to punish the children for their mistakes, however.  My own parents have pretty much conceded that they&#8217;d have been a happy old couple if they&#8217;d stuck it out despite the hard times.  I certainly wish they had.  From what I know of the situation, a veto would have caused them to stay together.</p>
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		<title>By: Barker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would ask if she was good, Earl, but I think you got much more of a screw than you gave her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would ask if she was good, Earl, but I think you got much more of a screw than you gave her.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Corbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Corbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the deadbeat lives in another state the custodial parent is just out of luck.  If you think SC is in bad shape you should see what my daughter has to go through dealing with NC,oops she can&#039;t deal with NC, SC has to and SC tells her that NC is in charge of her case.  In the mean time the deadbeat pays a payment of any amount every four or five months to keep from going to court...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the deadbeat lives in another state the custodial parent is just out of luck.  If you think SC is in bad shape you should see what my daughter has to go through dealing with NC,oops she can&#8217;t deal with NC, SC has to and SC tells her that NC is in charge of her case.  In the mean time the deadbeat pays a payment of any amount every four or five months to keep from going to court&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: southernmapart</title>
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		<dc:creator>southernmapart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who support jail time for parents who fail to financially support their kids - get a grip on your pocketbook, that is, if you are paying taxes.

One deadbeat goes to jail and gets his regular medical treatment at local taxpayer expense.  Why?  Because the jail is required to tend to medical needs of prisoners and it cost the county $50,000 when they jail him.  In our county it costs near $20,000 per year to jail these non-violent offenders.  $20,000 will pay for a lot of childcare.

Take away driving privileges and there will be no driving the new Pontiac Grand Am.  File judgments for liens and if the deadbeat ever owns assets, they&#039;ll be paying up.

Think of the savings on the state budget when the child support collection system is cut out.  Millions and millions of dollars saved for a few hundred state employees put on unemployment and no fed money for the Moore boy, et al to steal.

Judges can order child support payments paid through a commercial banking account.  One parent makes a deposit, then the other writes a check.

Limit government involvement and save jail space for hard criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who support jail time for parents who fail to financially support their kids &#8211; get a grip on your pocketbook, that is, if you are paying taxes.</p>
<p>One deadbeat goes to jail and gets his regular medical treatment at local taxpayer expense.  Why?  Because the jail is required to tend to medical needs of prisoners and it cost the county $50,000 when they jail him.  In our county it costs near $20,000 per year to jail these non-violent offenders.  $20,000 will pay for a lot of childcare.</p>
<p>Take away driving privileges and there will be no driving the new Pontiac Grand Am.  File judgments for liens and if the deadbeat ever owns assets, they&#8217;ll be paying up.</p>
<p>Think of the savings on the state budget when the child support collection system is cut out.  Millions and millions of dollars saved for a few hundred state employees put on unemployment and no fed money for the Moore boy, et al to steal.</p>
<p>Judges can order child support payments paid through a commercial banking account.  One parent makes a deposit, then the other writes a check.</p>
<p>Limit government involvement and save jail space for hard criminals.</p>
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		<title>By: Earl Capps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earl Capps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mercy, I&#039;m with you on this.  Child support enforcement always seems to snag the guy or gal who is trying and falls a couple of weeks behind, but won&#039;t lift a finger to find a deadbeat.

In my case, it was an ex who was in the phonebook and whose new husband was in the navy.  New Pontiac Grand Am.  Great new life.  Somehow, they couldn&#039;t seem to find her.

Amazing how that works.

Nancy has a point as well - many of the hardcore deadbeats would be that way with a 100K/yr job or with no job whatsoever.

I&#039;m all in favor of mercy of working with those who are trying, because there are a lot who do try, but those who don&#039;t care and don&#039;t bother, no mercy whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mercy, I&#8217;m with you on this.  Child support enforcement always seems to snag the guy or gal who is trying and falls a couple of weeks behind, but won&#8217;t lift a finger to find a deadbeat.</p>
<p>In my case, it was an ex who was in the phonebook and whose new husband was in the navy.  New Pontiac Grand Am.  Great new life.  Somehow, they couldn&#8217;t seem to find her.</p>
<p>Amazing how that works.</p>
<p>Nancy has a point as well &#8211; many of the hardcore deadbeats would be that way with a 100K/yr job or with no job whatsoever.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all in favor of mercy of working with those who are trying, because there are a lot who do try, but those who don&#8217;t care and don&#8217;t bother, no mercy whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Mercy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mercy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would hope that those who are out for blood would try to consider each delinquent payment on a case by case basis.  Even if you are working, that doesn&#039;t mean you can afford to pay sometimes exorbitant child support fees.  Working doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re making money.  You might be just scraping by or even losing money after figuring cost of travel and all those other things.  We all know there are cases where some parents were just terrible.  Sometimes it isn&#039;t the case.  Sometimes the deep pocket gets to pay for someone else&#039;s idea of what was right or wrong when an objective person knowing the facts (which can&#039;t always be known) would never order the person to pay up.  It makes a lot of people mad, but working doesn&#039;t mean you can pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hope that those who are out for blood would try to consider each delinquent payment on a case by case basis.  Even if you are working, that doesn&#8217;t mean you can afford to pay sometimes exorbitant child support fees.  Working doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re making money.  You might be just scraping by or even losing money after figuring cost of travel and all those other things.  We all know there are cases where some parents were just terrible.  Sometimes it isn&#8217;t the case.  Sometimes the deep pocket gets to pay for someone else&#8217;s idea of what was right or wrong when an objective person knowing the facts (which can&#8217;t always be known) would never order the person to pay up.  It makes a lot of people mad, but working doesn&#8217;t mean you can pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Huhhh???</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huhhh???</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 02:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Men and women need to start thinking before they bring children into the world...I wish we could put something in the water.

Yeah, FITS, you explain why after 7 years of Sanford, DSS still doesn&#039;t have a child support computer system that works? How many millions are we still getting fined a year because of that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Men and women need to start thinking before they bring children into the world&#8230;I wish we could put something in the water.</p>
<p>Yeah, FITS, you explain why after 7 years of Sanford, DSS still doesn&#8217;t have a child support computer system that works? How many millions are we still getting fined a year because of that?</p>
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		<title>By: Question</title>
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		<dc:creator>Question</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 01:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why haven&#039;t we heard more about what the $5.2 million Paul Moore Embezzled was SUPPOSED to be used for?  Emma Forkner, director of HHS, who paid the money to DSS and never noticed it was not used as it was supposed to be, insists that this $5.2 million was &quot;appropriately paid&quot; even now.  Even people &quot;in the know&quot; at DSS wonder what program(s) that money was supposed to fund.  Why haven&#039;t we heard more about the source of the embezzled money?  $5.2 million would provide a lot of jobs.

So would the hundreds of millions in stimulus dollars being paid to the rainy day fund while Medicaid services are being slashed. Whose pockets would that money have gone into had it not been for media attention?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why haven&#8217;t we heard more about what the $5.2 million Paul Moore Embezzled was SUPPOSED to be used for?  Emma Forkner, director of HHS, who paid the money to DSS and never noticed it was not used as it was supposed to be, insists that this $5.2 million was &#8220;appropriately paid&#8221; even now.  Even people &#8220;in the know&#8221; at DSS wonder what program(s) that money was supposed to fund.  Why haven&#8217;t we heard more about the source of the embezzled money?  $5.2 million would provide a lot of jobs.</p>
<p>So would the hundreds of millions in stimulus dollars being paid to the rainy day fund while Medicaid services are being slashed. Whose pockets would that money have gone into had it not been for media attention?</p>
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