You were just pwned by an eighth grader and their friend

HA.

But you are glossing over a few things that we tried to discuss here. And for the record, I’m not self promoting. It’s a link to you, not me.

Via your links from the above linked post, you said doing less than Bush was enough for your support of McCain, even if hesitant. Yet even if Obama does get HCR, it’s still smaller and cheaper than Bush’s Dept. of Homeland Security (a huge government expansion, one of many actually). Maybe not enough of example for you, but worth pointing out from one of your Democratic commenters.

Secondly, when you write things like this:

“Obama (obviously) didn’t run on truly “audacious” things like exploding the debt, bailing out bloated state bureaucracies or socializing medicine, because voters wouldn’t have supported any of that – as evidenced by their current averse reaction to it.”

You know it’s just not true and there is nothing “weary” about bringing it to your attention.

–Obama has not exploded the deficit, it was nearly $1.4 trillion when he took office. The explosion happened long before Obama.

–The stimulus package that largely went to the states, is the only thing keeping this country from imploding after 8 years of Republican rule– as evidenced by all the GOP lawmakers bragging about it in their districts.

–Most importantly, Obama openly ran on HCR, even reform with a public option. Call it socialism if you want, that’s fine with me. But guess what? He won. He openly ran his campaign on expanding the role of government in health care and he got more votes than any person in history.

So when you say that he didn’t run on HCR, it’s just not true. He did and he won.

Nobody is pimping you as anything. When you write such things, it’s only part of the blogging experience that it can be pointed out to you. Be weary of it, attempt to set it straight, but there is a difference between being apologetic and wrong. I don’t think you were/are trying be apologetic. You were just wrong.

I think you guys do a very decent job at being fair and ripping both sides. I think that goes without saying, especially when I disagree with something you wrote.

Good point, but most of the surplus was generated by huge revenue from capital gains from the dot.com stock market bubble. That went away in 2001, but Congress kept spending as if the revenue was still coming in.

Something else to remember is that we had a divided Congress and executive branch from 1994 thru 2000. For fiscal policy a divided gov’t seems to work best as each side can tell each other no. Contrast that with the recent two periods when everything was controlled by one party.

FITS nails it with this posting on why this country is in a fiscal mess. The federal gov’t must reset like every other entity / family is being forced to do b/c of this recession / depression. Good luck w/ that.

Where was all these fiscally conservative groups back then that are now popping up in almost every neighborhood?

Talk about being on the public dole!! Is there one penny of private sector funding that you have ever earned??

btw….since you missed previous explanation of my kewl avatar here’s a hint for a budding historian: research the ship’s number and you’ll understand.