A Note To Our Democratic Commenters
By FITSNews || Over the last few months, we’ve noticed a dramatic uptick in Democratic commenters attempting to spout Bush v. Obama talking points on our website – as if there was any real difference (other than the price tag) between the failed interventionist approach taken by either of these failed presidents.
We don’t know what’s prompted this influx (maybe it’s part of that whole taxpayer-funded spamming thing that the White House has allegedly ginned up) but we do know that we’ve very quickly grown weary of it – just as we’ve very quickly grown weary of Republican politicians suddenly discovering their lungs as it relates to fiscal conservative issues.
Seriously … it’s incredibly easy to be a fiscal conservative when you’re in the minority party in Washington and have absolutely no say over how money gets spent. But where were these guys on spending issues when they were in the majority party?
Yeah … they were nowhere.
Anyway, we’ve grown weary of these Democratic commenters because way, way, way, too many of them presume that we are either a) Republican or b) ignorant of the Republican descent into Keynesian economics that prompted the Barack Obama wave in the first place.
That’s why every once in awhile, we like to set the record straight – if for no other reason than it gives us an excuse to look back into our voluminous archives and not only prove our point – but marvel at how friggin’ prophetic we were back then.
In hundreds of articles dating from this blog’s inception through the merciful end of the Bush administration, whenever “Republicans” were growing government at obscene levels – we were calling them out on it (both in D.C. and here in South Carolina).
We ripped these big government porkers (repeatedly) – while praising the few fiscal conservatives (Jim DeMint, Tom Coburn) who were actually fighting for the taxpayer in Washington.
We excoriated Bush for his reckless deficit spending, for “failing to use his veto pen even once while an out-of-control GOP Congress racked up $3 trillion in new debt between 2001 and 2006.”
We blasted the excesses that took place under his watch at Fannie and Freddie.
We criticized the botched implementation of so-called “War on Terror.”
Most importantly, though, we absolutely assailed his bank bailout – and not only on that dark day for democracy when this anti-capitalist boondoggle actually became law, but extensively beforehand (here, here, here, here, here and here).
We also blasted his automotive bailout, and mocked his self-assigned “Liberator legacy” as being somewhat ironic considering how he had “enslaved 300 million (people) in this country to a whopping $11.3 trillion in debt.”
And when it was all said and done – when there were no fiscal conservative “GOP” principles left for Bush and his loyal bridage of Washington RINOs to shred – we pointed out that (until Obama, anyway), he was the worst president ever.
Bottom line? Republicans (especially Bush) suck every bit as much as Democrats in our book. “Always have.”
And barring some miracle, always will …
Frankly, we think it’s hilarious to watch decrepit old “Republicans” like Orrin Hatch and John McCain (among many, many others) trying to pretend they weren’t part of the Washington gravy train when it was flowing in the other direction.
Sure, we’re glad they are standing up to Obama’s socialist agenda now, but that doesn’t absolve them of their responsibility for ushering in that agenda by betraying the principles their party was founded on. Nor does it mean they can be trusted moving forward.
Anyway, we hope this refresher will serve to remind our many Democratic commenters (which is itself a sign of our equal opportunity outrage) that when it comes to pimping us as “Republican apologists,” that donkey don’t hunt.
Comments
By Liberty For Me on January 30th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
..They will tune this message out because it is usually the only angle they can have.When they cant play smoke and mirrors they will run.
Very few can stand up for socialism..I think most wont admit to themselves that they are socialists and the ones that do, try to dodge the subject.
People there is little difference between Hitler,Mussolini and Stalin ..Vietnam,Korea,Venezuela..etc..You can try to make arguments all you want why they are different and why one may be OK with you.In the end the American people want Jefferson and Washington and Liberty…Your Socialist agenda has finally been completely exposed and will loose in sweeping majorities in the future…Yes that means fascists in Republicans skin too….Every person that votes for anything taking away our liberties will be held accountable.
Repeal the 17th Amendment
By Tiger Dan on January 30th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
I’m glad to see that you consider Tom Coburn one of the “few fiscal conservatives” “who were actually fighting for the taxpayer in Washington.” You may want to note, however, that like all responsible legislators, he voted for TARP.
By Natasha on January 30th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Amen.
By Cooter Brown on January 30th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Heeze fite fols. I’s bin heer a commentatin fer a wile now. Aint no luv fer whut he calls rinos.
I, mysef, iz also an equal opportunitie basher ov da parties.
I doo, howeva, belieb dey hab sum value: I rekon th’ demicraps iz rite whin dey talks ’bout the rebublicants an’ th’ republicants iz rite whin dey talks ’bout th’ demicraps. Itz whin dey talk ’bout themsefs day th’ manure gits deep!
At da end ov da day, least az fer az ol’ Cooter kares, dey can bof go to hell, Hell, HELL!
By Pat Hendrix on January 30th, 2010 at 5:35 pm
Hey liberty, next time you take tens of thousands of dollars from the American taxpayer via one those socialist/facist/communist programs, read back over all your posts here at fits. Then see if you can have medicare pay for a brain transplant.
And I agree, the fits crew are equal opportunity haters.
By Liberty For Me on January 30th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Hey Pat…sounds like you are the one on the dole…Please tell me what I take from any program???..Just another smoke and mirrot diversion
I told you guys…evey single time they cant defend their socialist agenda they change subjects and attack Busch or you personally…every time.It is not going to work anymore.
By WorkingTommyC on January 30th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Considering the sins of both progressive infiltrated parties, it is no wonder that the imaginary “Tea Party” out polls the other parties.
If we had more people who were thinkers instead of cheerleaders, we wouldn’t have this problem. Common sense is anathema to the two major parties.
By Pat Hendrix on January 30th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Liberty, I’m sure you’ll mail those social security checks back and refuse to accept that medicare when you get older. Or better yet, you can be the teabagger holding the sign that says “Tell the Gubment to keep their hands off my medicare.”
By the way, I’ve never taken a dime from the dole, bud. That’s just the type of smoke and “mirrot” that I’d expect from a you.
By Pat Hendrix on January 30th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Liberty, since you seem so intent on using “socialist,” “communist” and “fascist” interchangeably, could you please give me a working definition? It’s just so damn confusing to think of Obama, Hitler and Stalin as one in the same. Same with a command-control economy that eliminates private ownership and the state controls production and distribution with a market based and administered attempt to extend insurance. Hey, you could also toss in mercantilism and Louis XIV. It would make just as much sense as conflating the healthcare bill with Stalin’s liquidation of the Kulaks.
Better yet, try taking an 8th grade civics class.
By Liberty For Me on January 30th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
Let me get this straight…I am supposed to pay money to the government at the barrel of a gun.Then I am not supposed to collect the tax returns that I was forced to pay or I am a hypocrite??…
I have no choice to pay the taxes and fees this illegal government forces me to pay….But I do still have the freedom to speak out to try to stop them from robbing us in the future.
Stop coming at me and start telling us how we are all going to be better off when the debt is 20 trillion dollars…Tell us how great our country will be when a it takes a hundred dollars to buy a gallon of milk…How is the inflation they are imposing on our money going to help people pay their electric bills…Why don’t you give me the answers to these questions instead of worrying if I get a tax refund?
By the way there is no social security …everything we pay doesn’t even pay the interest…The debt just climbs every second of every day.
It only exists in the minds of people silly enough to not be able to figure out the truth…..
Hitler thought he could make the perfect electorate…so did Stalin…..
We have God given rights in this country and slowly the socialists think they can take that away and make us have a utopian existence of their making.
It did not work in Germany..It did not work in Russia or China and we are not going to let it get any more of a foothold here….Stop these shallow thinkers before they brainwash anymore feeble of these feeble minds
By Pat Hendrix on January 30th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Illegal government. Barrel of a gun. Hitler. Stalin. Brainwash. Yep, got’em all.
By the way, there is zero inflationary pressure. That’s because there is excess capacity which will only ease when employment improves. So with unemployment in the double digits, the first point is idiotic in the extreme.
Deficit: We will only come out of the deficit by raising taxes, cutting entitlements and growing the economy. The current occupant of the WH has said it is unsustainable. He made a tentative move by finally freezing discretionary spending. We will see if the country has the stomach to do the rest once – and only when – the economic picture improves.
Third point, value of currency: The dollar is being intentionally devalued to try and stem the trade imbalance. The Chinese keep theirs artificially low for the same reason. It also makes paying off borrowed money (which the public and private have in abundance) easier. Or we could go on the gold standard and watch our recessions become longer, deeper and the economy plunged into a deflationary spiral. Great idea.
By James the Foot Soldier on January 30th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
So Pat, do tell, what’s your occupation?
By Liberty For Me on January 30th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
James….You already know…A kool-aid salesman
Growing the economy while raising taxes….That is brilliant..
How about we give people a 5% raise while taxing them 5%..that should fix everything
Check this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk&feature=player_embedded
By larrie on January 30th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Let’s face it–we are no longer living in a Constitutional republic.
Any literate third grader who reads the Constitution recognizes that the federal government does not have the authority to force “health care” on the states.
We are governed by an elite ruling class who do not respect the Constitution.
Our “representatives” view themselves as above the law.
If I had mismanaged funds comparable to that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, I would have been sent to jail.
Thus far, no one in Congress has been punished for the destruction of our country’s treasury.
And no one will.
By Pat Hendrix on January 30th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Archaeologist. Historian. Lover of ladies. Badass.
You?
Do you find it odd that you’re the “foot soldier” but have a aircraft carrier in your sig?
By Kevin on January 31st, 2010 at 8:06 am
Hey dumb butt!, er, I mean Pat Hendrix, you must be just plain stupid when you write… “Liberty, I’m sure you’ll mail those social security checks back and refuse to accept that medicare when you get older.”
Last time I checked, I AM MANDATED to participate in that worthless program called Social Security. Give me a chance to opt out of that sub-meagor (1% or less returns) POS program and watch how fast I will “mail those socical security checks back”.
By rhodes on January 31st, 2010 at 8:29 am
If these howlers against social safety nets really cared about the country and loved it like they claim they do they would be willing to not use the social security checks and Medicare if they ever come. Whether you are mandated to participate in the social security scheme or not does not absolve you of responsibility for helping to undermine the country by contributing to the problem of bankrupting it. Just following orders didn’t work in Nuremberg and it won’t work with people who contribute to the nation’s downfall by taking the money. These people will be remembered as no better than the Freddie and Fannie crowd. Giving up entitlements is a smaller sacrifice than dying for an ideal.
By Pat Hendrix on January 31st, 2010 at 8:39 am
Worthless program? Those two programs are more popular than sunny days and kittens. How’s your 401k, by the way? Yep, let’s all opt out and and let the same people who ran the economy into the ground steal your retirement, too.
By Liberty For Me on January 31st, 2010 at 11:33 am
rhodes…That is the most moronic comment I have ever heard
By Liberty For Me on January 31st, 2010 at 11:51 am
Pat Hendrix..Of course they are popular.They have been forced onto a generation to depend on them.The whole socialist agenda is to force state dependency….Threaten to take that away and people freak.
That does not make them constitutional or a good idea….In fact if they were even looked at as an investment they would have been bankrupt years ago…Instead they are a tool of power for the government.A unconstitutional tool threatened against old people and the disabled.You should be ashamed to promote such a disgrace instead of championing a better idea and the ideas of Liberty….Vote for Liberty 2010 and 2012(it may be your last chance)
By James the Foot Soldier on January 31st, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Archeologist??
Talk about being on the public dole!! Is there one penny of private sector funding that you have ever earned??
btw….since you missed previous explanation of my kewl avatar here’s a hint for a budding historian: research the ship’s number and you’ll understand.
By No Way! on January 31st, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Pat is an attorney! He is an attorney in Charleston, SC. His opinions are misfit and poorly understood in democracies such as the U.S. Would be better received in a Soviet republic.
By enraged reader on January 31st, 2010 at 9:40 pm
How dare you say that we should give up what we paid into. Don’t expect me to give up anything that means taking money out of my hand. My dad was a soldier in the Vietnam war and I’m entitled to all the help I can get because I’m the son of a veteran. The younger generation shouldn’t get anything, but don’t you dare try to take it away from me. Yes, Social Security and Medicare are evil and must be destroyed, but we paid into it. We’re entitled to our ten-fold return on this investment.
By BC on February 1st, 2010 at 12:26 am
I would like to thank Fitsnews for setting the record straight, but I will take it a step further. The United States’ Federal Budget ended with a surplus of $230 billion back in 2000. It was the largest budget surplus in the history of the United States. Regardless of how anyone might feel about him, this was done under the leadership of former President Bill Clinton. My concern (this is not a slam) is what happened to fiscal conservationism from 2000-2008? How does a historical surplus get turned into a deficit of $1 trillion in only 8 years?
Where was all these fiscally conservative groups back then that are now popping up in almost every neighborhood?
By Kid Charlamaign on February 1st, 2010 at 8:56 am
BC -
Good point, but most of the surplus was generated by huge revenue from capital gains from the dot.com stock market bubble. That went away in 2001, but Congress kept spending as if the revenue was still coming in.
Something else to remember is that we had a divided Congress and executive branch from 1994 thru 2000. For fiscal policy a divided gov’t seems to work best as each side can tell each other no. Contrast that with the recent two periods when everything was controlled by one party.
FITS nails it with this posting on why this country is in a fiscal mess. The federal gov’t must reset like every other entity / family is being forced to do b/c of this recession / depression. Good luck w/ that.
By Chris- The Fold on February 1st, 2010 at 10:42 am
It’s worth a shot Fits. And at least you try, I’ll give ya that much.
But you are glossing over a few things that we tried to discuss here. And for the record, I’m not self promoting. It’s a link to you, not me.
Via your links from the above linked post, you said doing less than Bush was enough for your support of McCain, even if hesitant. Yet even if Obama does get HCR, it’s still smaller and cheaper than Bush’s Dept. of Homeland Security (a huge government expansion, one of many actually). Maybe not enough of example for you, but worth pointing out from one of your Democratic commenters.
Secondly, when you write things like this:
“Obama (obviously) didn’t run on truly “audacious” things like exploding the debt, bailing out bloated state bureaucracies or socializing medicine, because voters wouldn’t have supported any of that – as evidenced by their current averse reaction to it.”
You know it’s just not true and there is nothing “weary” about bringing it to your attention.
–Obama has not exploded the deficit, it was nearly $1.4 trillion when he took office. The explosion happened long before Obama.
–The stimulus package that largely went to the states, is the only thing keeping this country from imploding after 8 years of Republican rule– as evidenced by all the GOP lawmakers bragging about it in their districts.
–Most importantly, Obama openly ran on HCR, even reform with a public option. Call it socialism if you want, that’s fine with me. But guess what? He won. He openly ran his campaign on expanding the role of government in health care and he got more votes than any person in history.
So when you say that he didn’t run on HCR, it’s just not true. He did and he won.
Nobody is pimping you as anything. When you write such things, it’s only part of the blogging experience that it can be pointed out to you. Be weary of it, attempt to set it straight, but there is a difference between being apologetic and wrong. I don’t think you were/are trying be apologetic. You were just wrong.
I think you guys do a very decent job at being fair and ripping both sides. I think that goes without saying, especially when I disagree with something you wrote.
By YouKnow. on February 2nd, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Hi. You’re all sketchy. Every single one of you are silly gooses.
You were just pwned by an eighth grader and their friend
HA.