Comments on: Mulvaney Blasts Spratt For Obamacare Vote

By: OnNoNotAgain

OnNoNotAgain — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:34:05 +0000

BTW, Fits. Notice that there was an article in The Herald of Rock Hill, Spratt defends healthcare vote.
He sounded quite feisty in that article. Not at all like he was going to resign/retire. Sounded like he was running.

By: OnNoNotAgain

OnNoNotAgain — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:28:04 +0000

I’m not switching sides here. But I’m not happy with what Spratt is doing here. He’s been preaching fiscal restraint during the Bush years, and since the Dems got control of the house and he the budget committee, he hasn’t practiced it.
But I am not looking at just the past two and a half years. He was a big reason we ended the Clinton years with a mild surplus AND money just sitting in the treasury to be spent, by Bush, on a tax rebate.
I also think Spratt could be beat. Not handily. But the people venting here have no clue. If they live in the district, they are just York County whiners who think the rest of the district is “just like them.”
It is SO different.
Mulvaney might give Spratt a run for his money in York and Cherokee and Kershaw. But there aren’t enough votes in those counties to overcome the rest of the district’s strong lean.
I think the point above about Vince Sheheen, if he is on the ticket for Gov, is VERY important.
Chesterfield County is strong for Spratt and almost as strong for Democrats.
Kershaw is going to do the native son thing. It will trickle down.
The tricky thing is that things like that don’t often work in the Fifth.
In 2006, Norman had a not-yet disgraced Sanford on his side, Dick Cheney and a BUNCH of other high-powered Washington types coming in for him and it didn’t work.
Spratt has almost always gone it on his own and won. That’s another signficant thing.
I will enjoy listening to the GOP monkeys rattlin’ their cages about the Fifth District though.Show me evidence that there’s a real strategy to cover the whole district by MM, and maybe.
I am corrected about his announcements. he did get around.
But I also note that he didn’t do a good job of getting media on those events, because I only read/heard/saw anyting about two of them — Cherokee and Lancaster.

By: Fred Guy

Fred Guy — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:18:34 +0000

…and I’m with “OhNoNotAgain”. Every election cycle, everyone OUTSIDE of Spratt’s district decides what a bad Rep. he is and predicts his quick and easy demise. Unfortunately, inside his District lines, poeple are pretty satisfied and comfortable with Spratt.

Hell, I think that Clyburn is a shithead who needs to be run out of office, but obviously I don’t vote there and have limited input.

Spratt will be reelected. We enjoy having the Chair of the budget Committee on OUR side.

Y’all can have your hell-raising uber-conservative Demints and Sanfords and we will keep our Budget Chairman John Spratt.

Fred

By: Fred Guy

Fred Guy — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:10:26 +0000

Don’t forget that it looks like Sheheen will be on the same ballot in the Gov’s race, which will benefit Spratt big-time in Kershaw and Chesterfield Counties.

It won’t be a MAJOR factor, but will be a factor if this thing is close.

By: Kapacamary

Kapacamary — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:26:21 +0000

I can’t wait for the 2010 elections. If Obama and his minions continue on their current path, those of us who are members of the “less is more” party, will see a drastic change in who controls the purse strings of our government and our lives.

Obama has put us into history making debt. While Bush was not perfect, the Democrats taking over control of Congress, coupled with Obama’s election victory is, at this time, the worst thing I have seen happen in recent years.

Our country is at a crossroads. Our future is in the hands of those who truly believe that they should have control of our jobs, our health, our banking systems, our pocketbooks and now Obama is subtly seeking control of the global financial system. Not US control, HIS control. The man is a puppet of the likes of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.

While Obama is a good motivational speaker, we should have put him in the pulpit, not in the oval office.

As the bumper stickers say, “Don’t blame me. I didn’t vote for him”.

By: OnNoNotAgain

OnNoNotAgain — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:30:38 +0000

You hear it in the coffee shops and at the high school football games. The general feeling is that former independent minded Spratt has literally sold out.

I don’t hear it in any coffee shops I go to. And I’m sorry, the only talk I hear about is, “Who?”

Since I live in York County, I know who. But it’s hard when I answer “Who” to answer the “what” that follows.

The Fifth District, outside York, Cherokee and Kershaw, is made up of hardcore Democrats who vote.
Did you miss that he got 82 percent of the vote against Norman? During a war, when the war Vice President was coming to the district to campaign for him.
I don’t see where all these independents or “independent-minded” voters are.

By: OnNoNotAgain

OnNoNotAgain — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 17:25:54 +0000

Mulvaney announced in York, Lancaster, Florence, Kershaw, Lancaster (again), Newberry, Cherokee, Chester, York (again), Kershaw, Sumter, Dillion, Chesterfield, York (again), Darlington and Sumter (again).

Sorry. Missed all that. Didn’t make much of a splash in some of the smaller counties. All I saw was a pic of Cherokee County courthouse and a story in the Lancaster and Rock Hill papers.

Point was, and is, he needs to get out into the district constantly.

By: Mud Cat

Mud Cat — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:52:48 +0000

I love all the “knowledge” being spewed about on this post by the commenters. I live in the 5th – and NOT IN YORK OR CHEROKEE – but in a mostly Democratic county, and have voted for Spratt in the past. I follow politics closely and something to keep in mind is that Mulvaney will be the best competition that Spratt has had since he was elected. The other thing is that the rank and file independent voter is sick of Washington and incumbents. Mulvaney, or for that matter any smart fiscally responsible candidate, has a very good chance against Spratt this time around. You hear it in the coffee shops and at the high school football games. The general feeling is that former independent minded Spratt has literally sold out. While everyone believes that there needs to be changes to Healthcare, no one trusts the House Bill because it was pushed thru too fast and for political purposes.

Don’t compare Mulvaney to Norman or Bigham. They are not in the same league when it comes to brainpower. Spratt better watch out because this election will be just like in Virginia or New Jersey. It’s all about the independents who can’t understand how a trillion plus dollar federal plan won’t cost the taxpayers a boatload down the road.

I’m sick of the lies from Republican and Democrats. What I have seen from Mulvaney is that he honest and votes his convictions. I just hope he will listen to the constituents better than Spratt did.

I’ll bet FITS is right – Spratt won’t seek reelection.

By: Yorkie

Yorkie — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:50:55 +0000

That list doesn’t include Charlotte, Spartanburg or Columbia for TV and radio.

That was the first week.

So…what was your point again?

By: OhNoNotAgain

OhNoNotAgain — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:29:42 +0000

Dang, MulvaneyIsAJoke. Stole a lot of my points.
Most credible candidate since 1994? That was Larry Bigham wasn’t it? A restauranteur? Against an incumbent? Bigham is the only one who gave Spratt a run for his money, but he wasn’t as credible a candidate, at this point in the election cycle, as Norman was. I remember it well.
Mulvaney and Norman are, to my mind, the same candidate. Freshmen state legislators who have basically only have supporting Mark Sanford in their “accomplishments.”
Norman had DICK freaking Cheney come down here for him, as well as a host of other GOP national bigwigs, BEFORE the national committee bailed on him.
And Norman didn’t get out into the rest of the district. It is a BIG district.
Mulvaney, being from Lancaster, obviously puts one of the other counties in the Fifth District into play for the GOP. But if he spends his time in his home county or the decidely GOP counties in the district and doesn’t campaign EVERY DAY in the other counties, he is going to get his butt whooped.
Where did he announce, by the way? In GOP Cherokee County before he went to York then Lancaster counties. Does NOT bode well for him.
Lastly, Norman had Sanford endorsement to his credit.
Mulvaney won’t even be able to claim that now. Or won’t want to. He has supported Sanford more than he’s criticized him, so Sanford’s a liability, an albatross.
So no bones about it, Norman was the most credible candidate against Spratt in a long time, going in.
I remember being in Chesterfield County in 1994. When Bigham announced, even when he came by, it was like, “Who the heck is this?”
In ‘94, Spratt got 51, 52 percent of the vote, winning by 7,000. That’s a “close” race?
Just two years later, Spratt won by 15,000 votes, with 54 percent.
Bigham won Kershaw County, Sumter County and York County.
That might be the only time Spratt lost York. (State election commission won’t let you go past 1996 for results so I’m not sure.) But Norman didn’t even win York County.
Looking at the results in the 1996 race, it seems Bigham did OK then. But Spratt’s results, against a well-heeled, well-backed guy like Norman suggest Spratt is MORE popular in the district now.
Spratt won only one county in 1996 by more than 70 percent, Marlboro.
He won three counties in the district by more than 70 against Norman and won a fourth, Marlboro again, by more than 80 percent.
That’s a four-to-one drubbing, boys.
I get that the folk in York County are angry. I get it. But York County ain’t the district.