Comments on: FITS Poll: Spurrier’s Job Safe http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/11/03/fits-poll-spurriers-job-safe/ Politics, Sports and Pop Culture Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:21:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: CNSYD http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/11/03/fits-poll-spurriers-job-safe/#comment-74296 CNSYD Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:50:28 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=32523#comment-74296 Hal, L., the old saying about coaching is that "he can take his and beat yours or he can take yours and beat his". Saban could probably do that. Perhaps Meyer also. Spurrier used to be able to do that I am not sure he can anymore. He is stubborn, e.g. running the same fade route over and over. He publicly dresses down his QB during games. I thought Mangus was brought in to be a buffer. Lately that seems to have gone by the wayside. Hal, L., the old saying about coaching is that “he can take his and beat yours or he can take yours and beat his”. Saban could probably do that. Perhaps Meyer also. Spurrier used to be able to do that I am not sure he can anymore. He is stubborn, e.g. running the same fade route over and over. He publicly dresses down his QB during games. I thought Mangus was brought in to be a buffer. Lately that seems to have gone by the wayside.

]]> By: Hal I. http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/11/03/fits-poll-spurriers-job-safe/#comment-74290 Hal I. Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:45:30 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=32523#comment-74290 "USC has better facilities and boosters than more then half the SEC schools." Thanks for proving my point! Afterall, we usually win a/b half our games. Just kidding, but still, I was basing that comment on what Spurrier said when he arrived here: if we don't upgrade we'll never attract top talent (Hyman heeded the call, hence The Dodie, etc). "Spurrier doesn’t construct facilities, that is the AD’s job using booster money" Sure he does. He pulls in the money from the boosters, and I think he'll have a good offseason of fundraising given the potential this young team is showing. "Saban didn’t turn Alabama into a “contender” his first season. The advantages you mention irt Alabama were there for the coach before him. Alabama looked at the situation and decided that the previous coach was the problem" First season, second season, what's the difference? Either way he has the tools at Bama to win, and he's working w/ a lot more than Spurrier is whether you choose to believe it or not. Obviously he has to be able to coach, but if you really think that if those two traded places that the fates of their teams would differ by more than a game or so you're deluding yourself. Spurrier would be top 5 and we'd be trying to figure out why Saban can't beat Tennessee. Institutional reform takes a LOOOONG time, but if you really think the program isn't on the rise, or hasn't been moving in the right direction I simply don't know what to tell you. "USC has had 10 years of Holtz and Spurrier." And by our standards the Spurrier years have been some of the best in the program's history. Bowl eligible every year, our first wins against powerhouse foes, no sub-.500 seasons... I can't get over the idea that USC thinks any coach is going to magically put us atop the SEC East. It takes time, and now that we're finally not worried a/b going 3-8 or something like that we can start looking at how to get over the 8 win hump. “USC has better facilities and boosters than more then half the SEC schools.”

Thanks for proving my point! Afterall, we usually win a/b half our games. Just kidding, but still, I was basing that comment on what Spurrier said when he arrived here: if we don’t upgrade we’ll never attract top talent (Hyman heeded the call, hence The Dodie, etc).

“Spurrier doesn’t construct facilities, that is the AD’s job using booster money”

Sure he does. He pulls in the money from the boosters, and I think he’ll have a good offseason of fundraising given the potential this young team is showing.

“Saban didn’t turn Alabama into a “contender” his first season. The advantages you mention irt Alabama were there for the coach before him. Alabama looked at the situation and decided that the previous coach was the problem”

First season, second season, what’s the difference? Either way he has the tools at Bama to win, and he’s working w/ a lot more than Spurrier is whether you choose to believe it or not. Obviously he has to be able to coach, but if you really think that if those two traded places that the fates of their teams would differ by more than a game or so you’re deluding yourself. Spurrier would be top 5 and we’d be trying to figure out why Saban can’t beat Tennessee. Institutional reform takes a LOOOONG time, but if you really think the program isn’t on the rise, or hasn’t been moving in the right direction I simply don’t know what to tell you.

“USC has had 10 years of Holtz and Spurrier.”

And by our standards the Spurrier years have been some of the best in the program’s history. Bowl eligible every year, our first wins against powerhouse foes, no sub-.500 seasons… I can’t get over the idea that USC thinks any coach is going to magically put us atop the SEC East. It takes time, and now that we’re finally not worried a/b going 3-8 or something like that we can start looking at how to get over the 8 win hump.

]]> By: CNSYD http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/11/03/fits-poll-spurriers-job-safe/#comment-74285 CNSYD Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:49:28 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=32523#comment-74285 HaL. L, USC has better facilities and boosters than more then half the SEC schools. Spurrier doesn't construct facilities, that is the AD's job using booster money. I don't know what the root cause is but I don't think it is the items that you mention that need to be "built". Saban didn't turn Alabama into a "contender" his first season. The advantages you mention irt Alabama were there for the coach before him. Alabama looked at the situation and decided that the previous coach was the problem. USC has had 10 years of Holtz and Spurrier. HaL. L, USC has better facilities and boosters than more then half the SEC schools. Spurrier doesn’t construct facilities, that is the AD’s job using booster money. I don’t know what the root cause is but I don’t think it is the items that you mention that need to be “built”. Saban didn’t turn Alabama into a “contender” his first season. The advantages you mention irt Alabama were there for the coach before him. Alabama looked at the situation and decided that the previous coach was the problem. USC has had 10 years of Holtz and Spurrier.

]]> By: Hal I. http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/11/03/fits-poll-spurriers-job-safe/#comment-74242 Hal I. Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:36:46 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=32523#comment-74242 Seems wrongheaded to blame Spurrier for the irrational expecations of Gamecock fans (mine included). He's done very well here and looking at this year's team I think the groundwork is there for some very successful future seasons. We cycle in and out of the top 25, we play tough games against the best teams in the country, and we're starting to pull down big time recruiting classes - several things that at the beginning of the decade were not taken for granted by USC fans. The reason a Nick Saban can walk into Bama and turn them into a contender immediately is b/c that infrastructure already exists: the tradition, the boosters, the facilities, etc. Spurrier is doing an excellent job of constructing that here, and the program will be much stronger when he leaves. He may not win us the SEC, but he is putting us within striking distance at the very least. Seems wrongheaded to blame Spurrier for the irrational expecations of Gamecock fans (mine included). He’s done very well here and looking at this year’s team I think the groundwork is there for some very successful future seasons. We cycle in and out of the top 25, we play tough games against the best teams in the country, and we’re starting to pull down big time recruiting classes – several things that at the beginning of the decade were not taken for granted by USC fans.

The reason a Nick Saban can walk into Bama and turn them into a contender immediately is b/c that infrastructure already exists: the tradition, the boosters, the facilities, etc. Spurrier is doing an excellent job of constructing that here, and the program will be much stronger when he leaves. He may not win us the SEC, but he is putting us within striking distance at the very least.

]]> By: Not Sayin', Just Sayin' http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/11/03/fits-poll-spurriers-job-safe/#comment-74089 Not Sayin', Just Sayin' Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:44:10 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=32523#comment-74089 Nobody can win at USC, so what's the point in a change? Nobody can win at USC, so what’s the point in a change?

]]> By: OnNoNotAgain http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/11/03/fits-poll-spurriers-job-safe/#comment-74077 OnNoNotAgain Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:11:47 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=32523#comment-74077 He's posted a disappoiting record? In five years, he's won more games than Holtz did in six. He would have lose 12 games, let's say every game next season, to have the same number of losses that Holtz did. But he'd still have more wins. Has the program achieved a championship level? Absolutely not. Has it improved? Absolutely. We've been bowl eligible for six straight seasons (that includes Holtz' last season.) Best such streak in school history. We've gone to three bowls in four completed seasons, with a fourth in five possible. You bet there are empty seats in Williams-Brice Stadium. That has actually little to do with product on the field, even though it hasn't gotten better as we might like. 1) The YES program was a benighted, asinine move by our Tar Heel A.D. 2) The economy has hurt attendance as well. 3) Most of those empty seats you had in your picture and those you see on gameday are VISITORS seats. Again, the economy is keeping some people from traveling. Many of the visibly empty seats are "them" not us. There si a growing segment of fans who are demanding better product on the field. I'm one of them. But I'm also one who knows we are taking baby steps, not leaps. He’s posted a disappoiting record?
In five years, he’s won more games than Holtz did in six.
He would have lose 12 games, let’s say every game next season, to have the same number of losses that Holtz did. But he’d still have more wins.
Has the program achieved a championship level? Absolutely not.
Has it improved? Absolutely.
We’ve been bowl eligible for six straight seasons (that includes Holtz’ last season.) Best such streak in school history. We’ve gone to three bowls in four completed seasons, with a fourth in five possible.
You bet there are empty seats in Williams-Brice Stadium.
That has actually little to do with product on the field, even though it hasn’t gotten better as we might like.
1) The YES program was a benighted, asinine move by our Tar Heel A.D.
2) The economy has hurt attendance as well.
3) Most of those empty seats you had in your picture and those you see on gameday are VISITORS seats. Again, the economy is keeping some people from traveling. Many of the visibly empty seats are “them” not us.
There si a growing segment of fans who are demanding better product on the field. I’m one of them.
But I’m also one who knows we are taking baby steps, not leaps.

]]> By: Tom http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/11/03/fits-poll-spurriers-job-safe/#comment-74071 Tom Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:43:37 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=32523#comment-74071 As long as you have an AD who gives contract extentsions to coaches who should be fired (like Dave Odom) all USC coaches have nothing to fear. As long as you have an AD who gives contract extentsions to coaches who should be fired (like Dave Odom) all USC coaches have nothing to fear.

]]> By: Toyota Kawaski http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/11/03/fits-poll-spurriers-job-safe/#comment-74059 Toyota Kawaski Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:24:59 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=32523#comment-74059 Great picture SOS and 22 have the same expression!!! Great picture SOS and 22 have the same expression!!!

]]> By: Toyota Kawaski http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/11/03/fits-poll-spurriers-job-safe/#comment-74058 Toyota Kawaski Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:22:47 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=32523#comment-74058 Like i said yesterday Fits you will go up in flames before SOS does.I know it comes natural for you. Like i said yesterday Fits you will go up in flames before SOS does.I know it comes natural for you.

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