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	<title>Comments on: Clyburn: Socialized Medicine Votes &#8220;Not There Yet&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Red Bank Bar</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/10/22/clyburn-socialized-medicine-votes-not-there-yet/#comment-73032</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Bank Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 23:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but medical procedures aren&#039;t discretionary for the doctor.  You seem to forget the patient has the final say.  If the doc gives bad advice or cuts off the wrong leg, it&#039;s a tort claims act case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but medical procedures aren&#8217;t discretionary for the doctor.  You seem to forget the patient has the final say.  If the doc gives bad advice or cuts off the wrong leg, it&#8217;s a tort claims act case.</p>
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		<title>By: K Trane</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/10/22/clyburn-socialized-medicine-votes-not-there-yet/#comment-73012</link>
		<dc:creator>K Trane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Redbank, 

The Federal Torts Claims &quot;exempts, among other things, claims based upon the performance, or failure to perform, a &#039;discretionary function or duty.&#039;&quot; I know this because I was just tested on it in law school.

Aren&#039;t all medical procedures at the discretion of the doctor treating the symptoms? Thus, if you consider a medical doctor employees of the Federal Government (not hard to believe since postal workers are) and not independent contractors...kazaam...governmental immunity in compliance with the FTCA. And if an entity as ludicrous as Blackwater was pulling the governmental immunity card, why would it not be foreseeable for medical doctors to pull it as well?

It won&#039;t happen at first. All I&#039;m saying is, when health care starts running over budget, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see a politician bust this out to start saving money.

Once again, this is just my opinion. It&#039;s worth about as much as you paid for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Redbank, </p>
<p>The Federal Torts Claims &#8220;exempts, among other things, claims based upon the performance, or failure to perform, a &#8216;discretionary function or duty.&#8217;&#8221; I know this because I was just tested on it in law school.</p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t all medical procedures at the discretion of the doctor treating the symptoms? Thus, if you consider a medical doctor employees of the Federal Government (not hard to believe since postal workers are) and not independent contractors&#8230;kazaam&#8230;governmental immunity in compliance with the FTCA. And if an entity as ludicrous as Blackwater was pulling the governmental immunity card, why would it not be foreseeable for medical doctors to pull it as well?</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t happen at first. All I&#8217;m saying is, when health care starts running over budget, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see a politician bust this out to start saving money.</p>
<p>Once again, this is just my opinion. It&#8217;s worth about as much as you paid for it.</p>
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		<title>By: James the Foot Soldier</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/10/22/clyburn-socialized-medicine-votes-not-there-yet/#comment-72957</link>
		<dc:creator>James the Foot Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it kind of hard for Clyburn to &quot;whip&quot; blue dogs with threats his boys won&#039;t turn out in 2010 unless they continue the march to Waterloo since his boys won&#039;t be turning out in half the numbers as last year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it kind of hard for Clyburn to &#8220;whip&#8221; blue dogs with threats his boys won&#8217;t turn out in 2010 unless they continue the march to Waterloo since his boys won&#8217;t be turning out in half the numbers as last year?</p>
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		<title>By: Toyota Kawaski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toyota Kawaski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the Pimp get his sweaters from Stewart Smallie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the Pimp get his sweaters from Stewart Smallie?</p>
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		<title>By: RedBank Bar</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedBank Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, K Trane, your post is nonsensical.  Where did you get the idea the feds pull a &quot;governmental immunity&quot; card?   There is no such animal still in existance and/or claimed unless you&#039;re an outlaw such as Blackwater Xe whatever and/or Halliburton.  

Google &quot;Federal Tort Claims Act&quot; and you&#039;ll see the answer to your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, K Trane, your post is nonsensical.  Where did you get the idea the feds pull a &#8220;governmental immunity&#8221; card?   There is no such animal still in existance and/or claimed unless you&#8217;re an outlaw such as Blackwater Xe whatever and/or Halliburton.  </p>
<p>Google &#8220;Federal Tort Claims Act&#8221; and you&#8217;ll see the answer to your post.</p>
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		<title>By: K Trane</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/10/22/clyburn-socialized-medicine-votes-not-there-yet/#comment-72836</link>
		<dc:creator>K Trane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ynot,

Competition is good, but I&#039;m not sure the U.S. government competing in a market it regulates would be fair to private companies. Not to mention 100% of the country will have increased taxes to pay for the meager 15% that doesn&#039;t have health care. Nobody is arguing that health care needs more regulation (requiring insurance companies to take patients with pre-exisiting conditions, allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines, etc.) but a $1 trillion bill, in an economic recession, is not the answer.

Furthermore, trial lawyers will soon be out of luck when the government takes over health care. Not immediately, but eventually, government will pull the &quot;governmental immunity&quot; card for medical malpractice suits. Good luck suing your government doctor when he cuts off the wrong leg!

Just my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ynot,</p>
<p>Competition is good, but I&#8217;m not sure the U.S. government competing in a market it regulates would be fair to private companies. Not to mention 100% of the country will have increased taxes to pay for the meager 15% that doesn&#8217;t have health care. Nobody is arguing that health care needs more regulation (requiring insurance companies to take patients with pre-exisiting conditions, allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines, etc.) but a $1 trillion bill, in an economic recession, is not the answer.</p>
<p>Furthermore, trial lawyers will soon be out of luck when the government takes over health care. Not immediately, but eventually, government will pull the &#8220;governmental immunity&#8221; card for medical malpractice suits. Good luck suing your government doctor when he cuts off the wrong leg!</p>
<p>Just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Ynot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ynot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Need competition. End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need competition. End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: RedBank Bar</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedBank Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just more crap from fitz channeling Ronnie the Mo Reagan who famously said Medicare would end freedom in the US.

Clyburn&#039;s already got 218.  He&#039;s looking for 240.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just more crap from fitz channeling Ronnie the Mo Reagan who famously said Medicare would end freedom in the US.</p>
<p>Clyburn&#8217;s already got 218.  He&#8217;s looking for 240.</p>
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		<title>By: Dismayed</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/10/22/clyburn-socialized-medicine-votes-not-there-yet/#comment-72813</link>
		<dc:creator>Dismayed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. I seem to forget the reference in the Constitution to the &quot;free market republic.&quot; I must be having a senior moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. I seem to forget the reference in the Constitution to the &#8220;free market republic.&#8221; I must be having a senior moment.</p>
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