Comments on: Sanford “Pleads The Fifth” On Mulvaney

By: OnNoNotAgain

OnNoNotAgain — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:22:02 +0000

I haven’t seen any published polls for the Fifth District as a whole, “York Insider.”
I’ll bet you are referring to a York County survey, but that’s just my guess.
I saw an analsis of the race where the writer took 10,000 votes from Spratt in York County and GAVE them to Norman. Just gave them to Norman. 10,000 votes. And the numbers show, that still wasn’t enough.
From the number posted above, that would be
75,422-99,669-64 turning to 85,422-89,669-64.
So if Norman had committed electoral fraud and BOUGHT 10,000 Spratt votes in York County, he still loses by 4,247 votes?
Good luck Mr. Mulvaney.
The only thing smarter about Mulvaney’s run is that he is a state senator, and does not have to give up his first-term seat in order to run in this cycle.
The biggest non-ideological knock on Norman was he was a first-term state rep who had done practically nothing in the house.
I’m not an “insider,” but I’m from York County.
It is a county with an over-developed sense of relavence. Because Spratt is from there, they believe that as they vote, so votes the Fifth. And most of your political pundits, from Scott Huffmon at Winthrop to old Lee Bandy passed on that argument.
The district is just too big for that to be true.

By: Toyota Kawaski

Toyota Kawaski — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:44:16 +0000

DAM its going to snow I agree with CNSTD oh boy nellie! Great job not leaving out The senator from Wisconsin and Tom “glamour Shot”Davis

By: CNSYD

CNSYD — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 01:21:24 +0000

Not so long ago the 1st district was having orgasms over this particular candidate for Congress. He was frugal. A fiscal conservative. He was against big government. How could we go wrong? Well his name was Sanford. What a joke he was as a Congressman. So I guess the 5th district wants to have their own can’t nothing, won’t do nothing freshman Congressman. All he needs to say is that he will sleep in his office.

By: York Insider

York Insider — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:48:00 +0000

And there…ladies and gentlemen…is why we are where we are as a nation.

“Why kick out the guy who brings home the bacon…Ok..so he’s hocking our children’s future, and selling our collective soul … for just one more term at the trough…we sure do like that bacon, though…”

WE….JUST…CANT…SAY…NO…TO….THE….MONEY….

Fiscal discipline is coming, one way or the other. The only question is just whether it comes in the form of new thinking about government, and new representation in Washington…or by nationwide poverty.

But it is coming…and what will John Spratt do for you then, when he is home picking up his pension?

By: CNSYD

CNSYD — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:02:55 +0000

So let me understand. You want to toss a rep who presently chairs the Budget Committee and is 2nd ranking majority member of the Armed Services Committee in return for a freshman congressman of the minority party. That right? Does this make sense? When and if the GOP gains a majority then it might make some sense but not now.

By: York Insider

York Insider — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:39:10 +0000

Pat:

Would you be singing the same tune if you knew that Spratt’s approval ratings were below 40%?

Bailouts+Socialized Medicine = New 5th

By: Pat Hendrix

Pat Hendrix — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:50:59 +0000

Nope, I’ve worked two campaigns in the 5th and know the numbers. Spratt’s not losing that seat. His popularity is high, even among many Republicans. Norman may be hoping for that seat when Johnny retires, but until then, lambs to the slaughter.

By: OnNoNotAgain

OnNoNotAgain — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:01:22 +0000

“Indeed, the district is still solidly Democratic…”
Well, it’s certainly true the 5th has voted for Spratt repeatedly, but in the past 3 presidential elections the vote was: McCain 53%/Obama 46%, Bush 57%/ Kerry 42%, and Bush 55%/ Gore 43%.
And, Spratt’s home base, York County, votes about 66% Republican.

This comment makes the mistake that led Norman to run in 2006. You can’t facor on that up-ticket number giving you a bump if you don’t run in the same election year as the President.

First off, Yoek County can deliver 66 percent GOP votes. But Spratt beat Norman in that race. Don’t have the percentage on hand. If the election were held today, I’d say any GOP opponent beats Spratt in York County NOW, what with the anger from the Birther types over healthcare stirring the pot.
Next year? Who knows?

And in all those counties where GOP presidential candidates won in the Fifth, Spratt won by an even bigger margin.

The Fifth is wide and diverse. But you look DOWN the ticket, and in most, you have solid Democratic leadership at the county level.

Dillon and Marlboro counties voted like 4-1 for Democratic candidates. in 2004 when Bush won. Norman got similar ass-whippings two years later.

The Fifth is a hard place to run in. You have three separate TV markets, two being the biggest media markets in the state (Columbia and Charlotte, with Florence/MB thrown in.)

It is without a doubt that many of the Democratic county level leaders are boll weevil, almost Dixiecrats. if the GOP would get them to switch, they might change the demographics of the district. But they don’t want to work at that level.

Add in the fact that Norman made the stupid decision to run for the Congressional seat in an off-year, and you get what you got. He was hand-picked by national GOP, Cheney came to campaign for him. And what happens? He loses. By 24,000 votes. That’s BIG.
(75,422-99,669-64)

Why bring all that up? Because Spratt’s “snub” of Mulvaney has as much to do with Mulvaney getting on the resignation as …
(wait for it)
Norman’s announced desire to run for Spratt’s seat “at the right time.”

Norman wants the seat, and he figures he needs to be a state Rep. to have the chops to pull it off. So he runs for the state house now, if he wins (most probably when he wins) he runs against Spratt next time.

There’s no incumbent to help Norman at the top.

Since Mulvaney is following the Norman “success” plan for the House seat, being a newcomer in the State Senate whose only claim to fame is his support from Sanford), we’ll see how it goes.

A Republican could win the seat, even now, if it were done right. But it won’t be.

By: CNSYD

CNSYD — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:57:22 +0000

AppleMan, I intentionally left out the blue belly school. There does not exist on the face of the earth any more arrogant assholes than they are. They think they have the trademark on the word Carolina. They LOVE to look down their noses at SC. So I imagine that is what he learned there. BTW I ain’t going anywhere. So no, he is not a fake Southerner but he is OBVIOUSLY a fake South Carolinian. Besides that he is joined at the hip to Sanfraud.

By: AppleMan

AppleMan — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:59:19 +0000

CNSYD: your investigative work seems untiring, and your skills are clearly formidable. You know where he was born and where he went to school (at least partially), and you conclude that he is some sort of fake Southerner. Scotland Yard surely awaits you. As if any of that information is relevant to whether or not he’s doing a good job or would represent SC well. For what it is worth, your sleuthing somehow missed the other articles that mention that he grew up in Charlotte and went to that notorious Yankee law school in Chapel Hill. I think all that remains is for you to reference that “indian land boondoggle” site before you disappear from this forum. Tell all the folks on the Powers-Norrell campaign team that this line of “arguing” doesn’t carry much water (still).