Higher Ed Leaders Getting Massive Salary Supplements

higher ed leaders get massive

If you believe the data provided by The State newspaper’s online salary database, the leaders of the Palmetto State’s top three research universities receive taxpayer-funded salaries that are very much in line with what “higher educrats” at other public colleges and universities are paid.

University of South Carolina President Harris Pastides makes $265,000, Medical University of S.C. President Ray Greenberg makes $232,064 and Clemson University President James Barker makes $227,656.

Of course if you believe The State newspaper, South Carolina’s state budget this year is $5.7 billion (it was actually $20.7 billion, when ratified). And if you believe The State newspaper, the budgets at our various institutions of higher learning are being “cut by record levels” (actually, budgets at each of these schools are going up, as you’ll see in a moment).

Anyway, you can read more myths about the state budget by clicking here, and more specifically on the myth of higher ed budget cuts by clicking here.

Meanwhile, the issue of administrative pay is one that is receiving a significant amount of scrutiny on college campuses not only here in South Carolina, but across the country as well.  It exploded on South Carolinians radar earlier this year, though, when a report published first on FITS exposed the massive bureaucratic expansion taking place at Clemson – during a recessionary economy, no less.  That report prompted a rebuke from the Clemson faculty, who were seeing colleagues lose their jobs while their own salaries remained stagnant.

So … what do these “higher educrats” actually make?

Glad you asked.

According to Clemson, President Barker receives $172,344 in compensation from the University foundation on top of his taxpayer-funded salary of $227,656, for a total annual salary of $400,000.  Clemson spokeswoman Cathy Sams tells FITS that Barker receives this supplement “to perform duties consistent with the goals of the Foundation.”

According to USC, President Pastides receives “foundation supplements” in the amount of $270,000 on top of his taxpayer-funded salary of $265,000 – for a total annual salary of $535,000.

Medical University President Ray Greenberg rakes in the most cash of these three “leaders” by far, though, with an estimated $450,000 annual salary from the MUSC hospital supplementing his yearly taxpayer-funded income of $232,064.

That’s nearly $700,000 a year, people.

Barker, Pastides and Greenberg have all presided over massive budget expansions – and massive mission creep – in their roles as research university presidents.  No longer content with educating students (i.e. the job we pay them so much money to do), all three have sought to assume control over a significant chunk of the state’s economic development efforts.

It’s all part of a broader “pillars and pyramids” strategy endorsed by S.C. House Speaker Bobby Harrell, Senate Finance Chairman Glenn McConnell, Senate President Glenn McConnell and House Ways & Means Chairman Danny Cooper – a plan to dramatically increase government’s role in the economy by creating a de facto “Commerce Department” that’s controlled exclusively by the legislature.

Obviously, this strategy has been an unmitigated disaster – as evidenced by the case of Innovista, an empty $140 million “research campus” that has failed miserably to produce the jobs and private investment state leaders and University officials promised.

It has also drained money directly from the private sector, like the $8 million that was stripped from an entrepreneurial tax credit fund last year by the S.C. Research Authority, whose board is controlled by the three research universities.

Fortunately, FITS was able to expose this scam back in March, thus preventing more money from being poured down the rabbit hole.

With respect to higher ed, though, how much money are we talking about?  How deep does the rabbit hole go?

According to the latest data available from the National Association of State Budget Officers (NASBO), South Carolina currently spends 17.8% of its budget on a bloated, wasteful, duplicative and inefficient system of higher education.

The average state spends only 10.1% of its budget on higher ed.

Here are the total budgets for each school over the last six fiscal years as appropriated by the S.C. General Assembly …

CLEMSON UNIVERSITY

FY 2004-05 – $471.6 million
FY 2005-06 – $501.5 million
FY 2006-07 – $532.8 million
FY 2007-08 – $562.7 million
FY 2008-09 – $583.3 million
FY 2009-10 – $587.3 million

UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA

FY 2004-05 – $614.1 million
FY 2005-06 – $686.6 million
FY 2006-07 – $788.6 million
FY 2007-08 – $859.8 million
FY 2008-09 – $889.6 million
FY 2009-10 – $903.3 million

MEDICAL UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA

FY 2004-05 – $461.5 million
FY 2005-06 – $525.1 million
FY 2006-07 – $531.8 million
FY 2007-08 – $542.6 million
FY 2008-09 – $582.4 million
FY 2009-10 – $592 million

As you can see, each school’s total budget has increased every single year.  What’s more, these increases do not include tuition increases for the current school year, which pushed USC’s total budget over a billion dollars.

Speaking of those increases, tuition at Clemson has tripled over the last decade, from under $4,000 to nearly $12,000, while tuition at USC has more than doubled over the same time period.  Additionally, Seniors at Clemson and USC are paying 23% and 17% more per year, respectively, than when they first arrived on campus.

USC also lost ground on the most recent U.S. News & World Report rankings, while Clemson’s position remained unchanged.

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Comments

  1. By Philip Branton September 17, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    well……might as well throw in the kitchen SINK at CofC

    http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/sep/17/marlowe-to-lobby-for-college/

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  2. By bluetiger September 17, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    And, all the while CNSYD’s above reproach Administration was steadily telling the workers in the Clemson system that there was NO money available, there would be no merit increases, suck it up, you’re just fortunate that we’ve allowed you to remain an employee, don’t complain, just facts, THERE IS NO MONEY AVAILABLE (unless of course, you’re the President, first hand cronie of the President, and, obviously, like Cathy Sams, an employee who is willing to say or do anything that she is told to do/justified per CNSYD because she is an employee)

    Huge pay raises for the Administration, buddies, families of BOT have been rampant and completely uncontrolled – but, what the heck, as long as they have the voices out in the public and inside that call every dissenting voice that of a “disgruntled employee” – there will nothing done to prevent this immoral behavior – isn’t it something, you can never have been associated with Clemson in any way except as an alum or supporter, but when you say there are mighty rotten things hidden under our bright Paw, you immediately become a “DISGRUNTLED employee” – or even from another planet – and, if you don’t spell out details, evidence, names and social security numbers to the public and most assuredly rain brutal retalliatory actions on the very vunerable people that are caught up in that mess, then you must be making up your facts, your numbers are confusing or you’re talking in circles.

    Hopefully, as Sanford relinquishes some of the media space, the light will begin to focus on these shenanigans by Barker and, obviously, the likely equally guilty abusers of our State at USC (East) and MUSC).

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  3. By Don't know what you are talking about September 17, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Make sure your facts are correct. I know that you are incorrect on one of these. Also, the list are the total budgets but as always you fail to report how much the taxpayers of the state really really pay. The state’s share of these budgets is less than 15% in one case. Will, you can get into trouble very easily when you don’t know what the hell you are talking about. The reason you do not include the other amounts is that the universities provide the vast majority of their operating funds becasue the state does not!

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  4. By stateemployee September 17, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Perhaps a little misleading above, the phrase “as appropriated by the S.C. General Assembly” before the budget amounts may appear to those not familiar with the budget process to be the amounts the state provides to higher education, which it is not. It would seem to me to be a more fair picture to provide those figures, which would show a decrease in state appropriations the past years. Those data would show a decreasing percent of the total budget consisting of state money (thus part of the reason for the drastic tuition increases you cite).

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  5. By Mike September 17, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Nicely done. One day la Socialista will get on board (only after a public outcry, as usual).

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  6. By Don't know what you are talking about September 17, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    Bluetiger,

    Do not base you comments on information that is misleading! Will is very good at throwing a bunch of s— on the wall to see what sticks. I am going to bet that all of these schools use outside compensation services to set salaries. I am also willing to bet that none of them are above the norm for southern schools! Also, a $550k salary to run a $500m dollar enterprise is not out of line. I also think that you may not have the total budget for MUSC since I did not see the other entities that Greenberg runs. I think their budget is close to $2b with over 11,000 employees. I would not have the job for $700k! Be careful with what Will throws up in the air! It may fall back on you!!!!!!!!!!

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  7. By Philip Branton September 17, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    Don’t KNOW,

    At least Wil is throwing SH__ unlike all other editors in our “TOP RANKED” state who are schmoozing and eating crab dip at “Diane’s on Devine” with massaging lobbyists…!!!! These editors throw tulips ….!!!! The Innovista fiasco is brimming and the pressure is perkolating….!!! Once the veil at the SCRA is wisked back and the SKIM is revealed on the the pass thru “RESEARCH” to actually grease the innovista campaign juggernaut…..LOOK OUT !! Both sides of the good ol’ BOY aisle will be blown out of the Dubai Ports and “Jafra” inland port WATER….!!!! Reverberation will send shock waves through out the “PEELER boyz trifecta” dairy farm too boot….!!!! Those cows wont produce MILK for a …..while !!!!

    Our state’s education leadership is just one spoke of the problem..!! With all the technology that is being SOLD overseas and not being USED in our state to benefit ALL citizens is a glaring example of the RESEARCH Waste that these “slurps” are funneling to campaign stashers…!!

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  8. By CNSYD September 17, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    bluetiger, as usual you (and only you) know chapter and verse of every alleged misdeed. You still won’t answer my questions. What law enforcement agencies have been informed? Have warrants been signed? If the answer to both is no, then why not? I am sure you will claim fear. I guess you are not familar with whistleblower protection.

    FITS, do your numbers for Clemson include PSA?

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  9. By fitsnews September 17, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    CNSYD,

    No, the numbers do not include Clemson PSA. Here they are for the last

    FY 2004-05 – $54.6 million
    FY 2005-06 – $59.5 million
    FY 2006-07 – $67.1 million
    FY 2007-08 – $74.1 million
    FY 2008-09 – $76.5 million
    FY 2009-10 – $69.7 million

    Obviously, go ahead and add those millions to Clemson’s total …

    -FITS

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  10. By Dean September 17, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    You can’t use the appropriations act to accurately talk about federal or other funds b/c those are just each agency’s wild a$$ guess and it’s in their best interest to guess as high as they can get away with so they don’t have to go back to B&CB. You also can’t use it for any specific gen funds at a lower level than agency total (eg program, line item) b/c agencies routinely transfer around. Unless you are using a CG’s report or are speaking about no more than general fund totals (less interim budget cuts), what you are saying is meaningless. Which u probably know by now.

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  11. By NoObama September 17, 2009 at 8:46 pm

    Greenberg is running MUSC into the ground. However when he furloughed many of our employees, he donated a couple hundred dollars to the relief fund. What a guy!

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  12. By another opinion September 17, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    NoObama:

    You do not know what you are talking about. Any medical school that gets named a national cancer center is not being run in the ground. MUSC made it before Emory did. MUSC’s national ranking in a number of specialties keeps rising. Nothing but sour grapes. Get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  13. By Commonman September 17, 2009 at 10:22 pm

    Until you see the actual contract enumerating salary, perks, and contributions by related higher education foundation, you will not have an accurate picture of compensation. Good luck on getting any actual contracts.

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  14. By bluetiger September 18, 2009 at 8:57 am

    Mr.’s CNSYD & Don’t Know What You’re Talking About!

    Of course warrants have not been signed – and, yes, a large part due to “fear of reprisal”. And, yes, I’m well aware of Whistleblower protection.

    And, have you Sir seen the aftermath of whistleblowing in 85% of cases ever taken place. Clemson’s ex Financial Officer and Eugene Troutman are somewhat of the examples. And tell me, what do you think would happen to a non Staff level Employee of Clemson University should elect to fight the Clemson Law Machine? Oh, they’re protected and, if they ever get their say in court – before they starve to death and have their reputations smeared – it will be a case of how hard their descendents want to fight for their grandparents cause.

    DKWYTA — and, as usual, any negative word from someone that isn’t completely enamored with, in awe of or in bed with Barker and his Circle, the facts are misleading, You next post will likely be the now old and worn you “this person is obviously a disgruntled employee” -

    I believe the compensation of Clemson University should be competitive – it should be open in every aspect for the public to see and understand – and, that President should earn that compensation through being a true Leader of that Institution – Academics, yes, Athletics and, what seems to be forgotten and lost at Clemson during this administration, the many Men and Women who have chosen to make their career at Clemson University.

    Not, a full time, manipulated campaign for the favor and ranking of a Magazine – Not day to day operations of the University being driven by some insatiable desire to see your name in the headlines – Not an environment where blatant wrong doings are overlooked and condoned for the “benefit of the University’s reputation” while some are persecuted for any mistake or questioning of actions simply because they are not in position to draw “press” – and, moreso, when those questions are pointed to those that are in the Public Eye.

    Every instance of something that makes an environment hostile, intimidating and, sometimes, unbearable, are not something that
    serving a warrant is not possible and, can’t be the answer. Leadership, holding Deparment Heads, Vp’s, ASSO Vp’s accountable – listening to your people of any level and acting to protect them – recognize that people other than the Staff are investing their lives in a career at Clemson and deserve the same consideration as the “Staff”. They neither deserve or should it be acceptable for the Provost, Public Information, HR to completely deliver false information or to be more than amply rewarded – for simply hanging around – and waiting for the latest magazine survey to show where their salary does not meet another University – somewhere – and, have those gifts bestowed on them – deservedly or not, money available or not – it’s got to have come from somewhere – you have to agree with that.

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  15. By Toyota Kawaski September 18, 2009 at 9:01 am

    Fits and CNSTD suffer from invidiousness.

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  16. By clemson insider September 18, 2009 at 9:34 am

    Cathy Sams “spins” again. The Clemson University Foundation pays Barker $172,344 a year for no other reason than to make his total annual income equal $400,000.00. He has no contract with the Foundation for this additional income, or any expressed obligations to the Foundation in exchange for this supplement. He is also provided with mansion like housing, fully staffed with servants, and a new model BMW sports utility vehicle that is upgraded annually. Full disclosure would also include, in addition to the $400,000.00 he receives for being President, the $150,000.00 he receives from the Shaw Corporation for being a director simply because he is President of Clemson. Other fat details include the stock options he receives annually from Shaw. On December 12, 2007, Barker sold Shaw stock, which he had received as stock options, for $447,907.00. That puts his 2007 income well over a million dollars. Nevertheless, Barker vouches his monthly TiVo bill as a University business expense because he needs TiVo “to catch up on important news that he misses while he is away on other University business”- (actual expressed reason for expense). Barker has learned well from his mentors who are corporate expense account kings on the Board of Trustees.

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  17. By CNSYD September 18, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    bluetiger, since you imply there are several people adversely affected, then an attorney should be willing to take that on on a contingency basis. You think a firm like Motley-Rice would be afraid of how many lawyers Clemson would have? Do you really think the administration would be dumb enough to take adverse action against the plaintiffs before the matter came to trial? So this leads me back to wondering if there is a lot of smoke and very little fire.

    Toyota, we may be but you just plain suffer or is it suck? I forget.

    clemsoninsider, what is so hard to understand about Sams’ job? She does not issue her opinion, she issues the administration’s opinion. What would happen to Gibbs if he was to say before the White House press corps, “I think Joe Wilson is right”. Try using a little common sense for once.

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  18. By NoObama September 18, 2009 at 8:37 pm

    Actually, Greenberg has nothing to do with our being designated a NCI Cancer Center. I resent the fact that “By another opinion” believes that we, the physician staff at Hollings Cancer Center, had less to do with NCI designation than Greenberg. He just stands up when the awards are given out. Why don’t you get a clue?!

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  19. By Quiet Voice of Reason September 18, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    The problem is simply that there is NO oversight of the universities, certainly and least of all, Clemson. Because of state law, the raises are legal; because of state law there is no lawsuit unless a person’s salary has been decreased; because of fear there is no speaking up.

    Barker’s salary is what it is because the Board wanted to make sure it was commensurate with those provided a Top 20 institution, or at least headed that way. With his discipline, he is not invited to sit on many of the science or business boards that Pastides and Greenberg are. So the Clemson Foundation had to pay.

    And, again Wil, the NASBO figures aren’t the right ones. But I appreciate your persistence.

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  20. By Seekthefacts September 19, 2009 at 12:00 am

    CNSYD,

    Not only would administrators be stupid enough to go after people, they have already done so. Do some research about the whistleblower who reported problems with animal research at Clemson. Consider the arrogant behavior of the administration in the firing of Gene Troutman, not knowing he would hire competent attorneys. Read The State newspaper article by the brother of one of the attorneys (Joel Collins), indicating how Clemson had retaliated against the extended family. The bottom line is that nothing positive will happen at Clemson until good people begin to fight back aginst the individuals who run the place. Because most of these people have never been anywhere else, they do not realize that in nearly any other state in the union, they would have been escorted to the door years ago.

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  21. By Getting closer... September 19, 2009 at 12:35 am

    You’re misleading people with the budget numbers. Those may be the schools’ budgets, but it isn’t how much is provided by state tax dollars. And, the $8 million that was redirected to SCRA was originally donated by the research universities.

    I’m not disagreeing with the point you’re attempting to make, but you can make your point and still use facts based in truth. Stretching the truth to make your point makes it look as if you don’t have a leg to stand on.

    You’re on the right path. Just get there legitimately. It’s easy to do.

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  22. By NoObama September 19, 2009 at 7:47 am

    Yes, Greenberg found it necessary to travel to Israel on the state dollar to sit on a “board” and bring business back to S.C. Where is that business? He also attended a barmitzfa for a relative while there. I wonder what the real purpose of that trip was? I have not noted any new Israeli cooperatives on campus.

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  23. By CNSYD September 19, 2009 at 9:02 am

    Seekthefacts, That’s my point. If all this were factual and could be proven, trial lawyers would be lining up to take on these cases. You think a deep pocket entity wants to have a jury trial against a disadvantaged worker in front of 12 jurors who can see themselves in the position the worker was put in?

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  24. By Sorepaw September 19, 2009 at 10:14 am

    For Jim Barker’s directorship at the Shaw Group, Inc., see http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/irol/61/61066/103108_SHAWGROUPINC10K.pdf, Part III, Item 10.

    It is not just Presidents who get extra compensation from their University Foundations. The official state salary for the Provost at Clemson is less than the salary of one of the Deans, and less than salary pulled down by the VP for Information Technology.

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  25. By totallydumbfounded September 19, 2009 at 11:30 am

    CNSYD – at least read the post before you go into your rants about what folks that have been persecuted, harassed and retalliated against should or should not do.

    You just crossed over to the good guy’s side and, I am positive that was from understanding what seekthefacts was saying.

    But, hang in – you’ll get many more chances to defend Jimbo’s position and actions on many things. With his own greed and the circle of friends that he’s rewarded so well for forming the protective wall around him, he’s not done with his egomanics.

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  26. By Seekthefacts September 19, 2009 at 11:33 am

    CNSYD, I suspect discovery in the Troutman case will reveal some of the truth. The most recent report — a couple of months ago — put Clemson legal fees at $700,000.00 in the Troutman case alone. Do you believe that kind of money would be spent because of suspected biases of jurors? You have to understand how the president of Clemson thinks: In his mind, he is incapable of wrongdoing, and because the board of trustees has failed to do its job, largely the result of a belligerent chairman and a pack of lemmings, nothing changes at the university. Perhaps the new BOT chairman will seek to address some of the ongoing isses.

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  27. By CNSYD September 19, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    totallydumbfounded, I am not defending anyone. I am just saying if all the “rumor” (and that is what it is until proven otherwise) has any traction a trial lawyer would take it on in a minute. Thus far it appears that none of the alleged affected persons have engaged an attorney to my knowledge. You think Motley-Rice would be scared of anyone at Clemson? They are not even scared of the Saudis or the US State Dept. That is what it makes me think all this is smoke and no fire.

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  28. By CNSYD September 19, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    Seekthefacts. you miss my point. No deep pocket entity wants to go before a jury of ordinary citizens. That is why most cases are settled before trial or shortly after the trial starts. It is common knowledge what type person the for Chair was/is. I doubt the entire BOT is a bunch of lemmings. Based on the structure, a life trustee isn’t going anywhere unless they want to. So what do they have to fear? If, as you say, Clemson has spent $700k so far then it must be because they don’t have a slam dunk.

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  29. By totallydumbfounded September 19, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    CNSYD – I’m dismayed at your lacking of understanding of the plight of common people in the workforce at Clemson. They have been harassed, intimidated, bullied, and intimidated by a system that provides no guidance, assistance, support or, least of all, equal protection.

    That is what makes me think that you are a Barker Circle relative, owe them something or actually one of them.

    Seekthefacts very clearly stated that Troutman has hired a really fine attorney. You, our families and other residents of South Carolina have footed an outrageous bill for a large group of Lawyers to spend every waking minute finding ways to skirt the issues, evade the charges and hide under the skirt of laws that are brought out of the woodwork to confuse and prolong the fight.

    If this ends, as many suspect, with Barker, Helms and Circle Mates wearing Mr. Troutman’s fight for justice completely out – first it will be a travesty for the University and, next, the last bit sanity will go by the wayside in the ability to manage and control this Administration.

    Anyone can sit in a comfortable little perch and pretend that ugly things have not and are not happening in the Halls of Clemson University, call anyone critcizing those actions – disgruntled, misinformed – whatever – but, Sport, put your Wife, Daughter, Sister or Girlfriend in that environment – have her verbally abused, fondled or propositioned – have her say NO – and see her future at Clemson – it’s an ugly story.

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  30. By CNSYD September 19, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    totallydumbfounded, the remedies are so easy as to make one wonder what is preventing the alleged victims from pursuing them. Not only are state laws involved but federal also. So if there is a critical mass of victims with legit allegations why are they sitting on their hands? The current chair is an attorney and former legislator. If I understand your timeline, he was not on the BOT when the alleged events occurred. So why would he not give the matter a fair look?

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  31. By totallydumbfounded September 20, 2009 at 10:09 am

    Gentlemen of the Jury – I rest my case – This CNSYD has to be Barker’s Son, the newest member of the BOT – or just totally oblivious to the world around him.

    No one is sitting on their hands. There are many who are dodging bullets, looking both ways before they enter the halls, feel compelled to ask a friend to accompany them to the Ladies Room – and, know that they are frozen in their career and, have as an only hope, that they won’t be manipulated into some action that will allow the “Circle” to fire them – harass them until they have no alternative but ot quite and – that is not affordable.

    The facts remain – as I’ve stated clearly and bluntly – the “critical mass” as you refer to them cannot and will not act as a strong group. They live in fear, a large part need their jobs to live – they and their families cannot survive a fight with the Clemson Machine. It is impossible for one to go alone, it is highly unlikely that all or even a large portion will be willing (and able) to mount a United Front.

    As you well know, Barker and his Circle don’t have those worries, They are well funded, overpaid, and over protected by their own paid group plus the ones that South Carolina generously provides them. They don’t have to expose every tiny dirty detail for public scrutiny, have folks, like yourself, immediately dismiss them as “they asked for it”, “they are disgruntled employees”, “they don’t have photos and tape recordings of some ASSO VP soliciting them for favors for position, pay raise and job security. They have their word, their honor – and, with the protection and understanding that is provided at Clemson through the Human Resources, Access and Equity and the Omnsbudsman – they are worse off seeking help than they are by just quietly seeking a safe hiding place and existing without opportunities that should be their’s for the seeking but, instead are gifted to the Provost, VP’s, ASSO VP, the Presidents Son and Daughters of BOT Members.

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  32. By CNSYD September 20, 2009 at 11:23 am

    totallydumbfounded, you argument is growing increasingly specious. There is this mass of wronged individuals. They have a laundry list of wrongs inflicted on them by superiors. The superiors have some innate protection system that keeps them free from harm’s way. The alleged wronged are afraid to act due to fear of reprisal. If, in fact, the system is as you say, then the inaction of the alleged wronged will cause it to never change. Further what I understand you to say is individuals were solicted for sexual favors in order to achieve a pay raise, promotion, etc. They refused the advances and are afraid to speak up because they will lose something they never got. I have personal friends who work at Clemson. NONE in the layers of management that you describe. I have NEVER heard any of them describe events of the type of which you speak. Why is that?

    If you think one person can not stand up to a bureaucracy multiple times larger and more powerful, I refer you to A. Ernest Fitzgerald vs the US Air Force.

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  33. By Patriot September 20, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    All these big schools are like everything else in America, started on good ethical and moral teachinings and standards, and now have become corrupt, satanistic places of immorality. If you really love your children don’t them to these places. The driving force behind these schools are greed and your childrens minds!

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  34. By CNSYD September 21, 2009 at 11:05 am

    Patriot, So what school do you suggest? Bob Jones? Could they stand the light being shone on them? Also you appear to be an anti capitalist. So what is your bent?

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  35. By academixchix September 21, 2009 at 1:41 pm

    Fast facts:
    Anyone who brings suit against a university (meritorous or not)screws themselves out of being employed ever again. They become blackballed by every US university. No one likes a trouble maker, even if the whistleblowing was accurate and proper, disclosing wrongdoing and saving millions. Period.
    NCI designation at Hollings came from tireless efforts of writing which was the mechanism behind getting the designation.
    If it is so great and the NCI designation such an indicator of how great the place is, why is the Hollings Cancer Center leader leaving in a few months…along with gobs of other researchers who must simply be tired of the “excellence”? Whew, such super duper stuff would make me want to leave, too. Ha. sarcasm.
    Just sayin’

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  36. By Flasher September 21, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Gov. Sanford has found the one big, thing he can do as governor, which may also help distract people from his woes while attracting a bit of butt-kissing his way. Rep. Tracy Edge has asked the governor to exercise his duty in firing the Mayor of Atlantic Beach. As governor of South Carolina, he also can fire the presidents of the state-funded universities and many of their board members (as he has been continuously asked to do). Word has it that he has been loathe to pop some of the presidents for misuse of the state’s plane (and now we know why), but is currently considering his option to do so…Hm, let’s see, frequent out-of-state, state-funded flights to the NC mountains (which did not include Sanford), by one of the big 3 university presidents to stay at his own resident — all while the state plane circled above the state burning up precious fuel…And how bout those “athletic” trips, um-hm, though not related to recruiting rather to hoist a few clubs on a round or two. Maybe a fund-raising mission?

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  37. By Flasher September 21, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    Acadechic — those top guys at MUSC: Kraft, Greenberg, Feussner, etc., hate each other like sniping, old, greedy biddies at a social event. Eventually, they’ll all screw each other over and they’ll all be gone — some to jail, some whisked away to a university who’ve been convinced they need to hire them; or perhaps for reasons “to spend more time with the family.” Goodness, nothing’s new. That which has befallen the emperors of past will surely befall these false and thinly-veiled leaders.

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