Comments on: “Public Option” Could Shatter Notion Of “Majority Rules” http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/09/14/public-option-could-shatter-notion-of-majority-rules/ Politics, Sports and Pop Culture Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:17:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Pat Hendrix http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/09/14/public-option-could-shatter-notion-of-majority-rules/#comment-68560 Pat Hendrix Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:04:27 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=29360#comment-68560 This isn't Periclean Athens, Made. The United States does not pass this or that bill based on the polling of the week. If it had, Democrats would have passed a bill in June when 70 percent of Americans favored a public option or in 1993 when a clear majority favored Clinton’s healthcare proposal. No, laws are passed by the elected representatives of the people. If you failed to notice the past two election cycles, a clear majority of Americans threw their support behind the Democrats. Elections have consequences. Now grow up and stop using erroneous numbers - like 40 percent of Americans are on government subsidies - and get some ideas. Then go to the voters and win elections. It shouldn't be hard with Pelosi and Reid on the other side. Or you could continue to whine and talk about death panels. That's a winner. This isn’t Periclean Athens, Made. The United States does not pass this or that bill based on the polling of the week. If it had, Democrats would have passed a bill in June when 70 percent of Americans favored a public option or in 1993 when a clear majority favored Clinton’s healthcare proposal. No, laws are passed by the elected representatives of the people. If you failed to notice the past two election cycles, a clear majority of Americans threw their support behind the Democrats. Elections have consequences.

Now grow up and stop using erroneous numbers – like 40 percent of Americans are on government subsidies – and get some ideas. Then go to the voters and win elections. It shouldn’t be hard with Pelosi and Reid on the other side.

Or you could continue to whine and talk about death panels. That’s a winner.

]]> By: LouisianaPurchase http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/09/14/public-option-could-shatter-notion-of-majority-rules/#comment-68558 LouisianaPurchase Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:19:00 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=29360#comment-68558 If the healthcare proposal could be presented in a more moderate format, there would be more agreement, thus more majority. What we currently have is a situation of polar opposites. There MUST be more bipartisan work on the healthcare bill for it to be palatable to the majority. If the healthcare proposal could be presented in a more moderate format, there would be more agreement, thus more majority. What we currently have is a situation of polar opposites. There MUST be more bipartisan work on the healthcare bill for it to be palatable to the majority.

]]> By: JGaltJr http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/09/14/public-option-could-shatter-notion-of-majority-rules/#comment-68533 JGaltJr Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:01:13 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=29360#comment-68533 The Constitution does not rely on the concept of majority rule. The electoral college, the senate, the judicial branch, and the presidential veto are a few examples of counter-majoritarian pieces of the Constitution. This is not a bad thing. Federalist No. 10 says it all. Your conception of democracy sunk Greece. I'm going to go with Madison on this one. The Constitution does not rely on the concept of majority rule. The electoral college, the senate, the judicial branch, and the presidential veto are a few examples of counter-majoritarian pieces of the Constitution. This is not a bad thing. Federalist No. 10 says it all. Your conception of democracy sunk Greece. I’m going to go with Madison on this one.

]]> By: CNSYD http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/09/14/public-option-could-shatter-notion-of-majority-rules/#comment-68483 CNSYD Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:44:25 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=29360#comment-68483 People don't want "health insurance" they want "health care". The problem is who pays? I have health insurance. I can visit my doctor with a complaint and in a lot of instances get sent to another doctor who puts me in a fancy machine to look at my inards. One visit was over $1600. Must be big payments on that machine. Of course if patients weren't sent to get these high priced pictures, then the community wouldn't have the machine. So how many referrals were medically necessary vs those referrals to make sure the machine gets used? People don’t want “health insurance” they want “health care”. The problem is who pays? I have health insurance. I can visit my doctor with a complaint and in a lot of instances get sent to another doctor who puts me in a fancy machine to look at my inards. One visit was over $1600. Must be big payments on that machine. Of course if patients weren’t sent to get these high priced pictures, then the community wouldn’t have the machine. So how many referrals were medically necessary vs those referrals to make sure the machine gets used?

]]> By: CMouse http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/09/14/public-option-could-shatter-notion-of-majority-rules/#comment-68464 CMouse Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:31:32 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=29360#comment-68464 One of the things you've forgotten, Mandy, is 40% of the population suck on the government teat for total support. This already gives the Democrat position those votes automatically. If this were still a nation of rugged individualists, the crowds would have been a lot larger in Washington. When the dependent populations reach over 50%, you'll see a lot more people marching in the streets. After all, my ancestors started a War over stuff like this and look at the legacy we were left with afterwards. Deo Vindice! One of the things you’ve forgotten, Mandy, is 40% of the population suck on the government teat for total support. This already gives the Democrat position those votes automatically. If this were still a nation of rugged individualists, the crowds would have been a lot larger in Washington. When the dependent populations reach over 50%, you’ll see a lot more people marching in the streets. After all, my ancestors started a War over stuff like this and look at the legacy we were left with afterwards. Deo Vindice!

]]> By: Gillon http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/09/14/public-option-could-shatter-notion-of-majority-rules/#comment-68462 Gillon Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:24:39 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=29360#comment-68462 Interesting piece, but take a look at John C. Calhoun's "Disquisition on Government' for another view on majority rule. His argument is pretty much the opposite of yours: Majority rule is not always the panacea for everything-- how does a minority in a democracy protect itself against majority rule? Interesting piece, but take a look at John C. Calhoun’s “Disquisition on Government’ for another view on majority rule. His argument is pretty much the opposite of yours: Majority rule is not always the panacea for everything– how does a minority in a democracy protect itself against majority rule?

]]> By: 1 + 1 = 3 http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/09/14/public-option-could-shatter-notion-of-majority-rules/#comment-68455 1 + 1 = 3 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:50:29 +0000 http://www.fitsnews.com/?p=29360#comment-68455 Wait - so it can be passed through Congress by the minority members and then be signed by the candidate with the minority of the votes, McCain? Wait – so it can be passed through Congress by the minority members and then be signed by the candidate with the minority of the votes, McCain?

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