Democracy 101

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Health care reform is quite the popular topic in Milford, Pennsylvania, but try telling that to Ed Zygmunt, a staffer to Democratic Congressman Chris Carney (above).

Zygmunt refused to discuss the issue publicly with several of Carney’s constituents last week, and eventually bailed on the meeting altogether.

“They want to pretend that they’re listening when they’re not,” one Pennsylvania woman said.

Here’s the clip

Meanwhile, at a similar event in St. Louis, Missouri, union employees were escorted into a meeting with Democratic Congressman Russ Carnahan while Obamacare protesters – numbering over 1,000 – were refused entry.

Here’s that clip

God Bless America, indeed!

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  1. By Laura Campbell August 9, 2009 at 11:53 am

    See what happens when we put a black man in office? Some latent mobsters from the ’60s come out of the woodwork. I’m waiting on the dogs and firehoses to pop out anytime.

    While Obama’s health care plan is not perfect, a lot less noise was made about the Iraq War. How much did it cost? What happened to protesters of Bush and his war? Labeled unpatriotic or worse.

    Come on, the majority of you protesters, what are you REALLY fighting against? Would Hilary or Edwards have gotten this much flack?

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  2. By The Baldmongoose August 9, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Laura,

    I do see what happens when we put a black man in office…idiots accuse you of racism if you dare to disagree with him.

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  3. By James the Foot Soldier August 9, 2009 at 2:01 pm

    Laura – now you moveondotogre kooks have to play the race card from the bottom of the deck to save Obamacare/Mexicare?

    Classy darlin, just classy.

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  4. By daryl August 9, 2009 at 4:22 pm

    racist Ms. Campbell…that would be “rev.” j. wright” or anyone who would spend 20 years listening to his angry racist pap…

    …or maybe even “obama justice” for not prosecuting black panthers wearing para-military garb and wielding billy clubs and threatening white voters at a philly voting precinct…

    …racist, indeed!

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  5. By Laura Campbell August 9, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    Don’t misunderstand…it’s great to disagree, keeps Obama, others in check.

    And James, I do try my best to be classy, darlin, just kinda hard to sometimes, though, especially while refusing to swear myself to anything or anyone concerning the pig sty that is the political world. Does tend to make one kooky at times.

    Mexicare? Funny that you should pull from the proverbial race card deck that you mention.

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  6. By BIN News Editorial Staff August 10, 2009 at 12:33 am

    sic(k) willie.

    ‘Do you got’ health care coverage for your family as a small (very, very small) business owner? Expensive?

    You betcha! Worth it?

    That depends. On how healthy you and yours are.

    How about your employees? Oh? NO employees. Contractors!

    Then who cares?! Right, Mandee?

    Mandee. do you have health care coverage?

    Just wondering.

    BIN News Editorial Staff
    Flair and Balanced

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  7. By Maria BeLen Chapur August 10, 2009 at 8:14 am

    go google America

    http://www.america.gov

    Now understand C Street has couped the United States into individual states.

    THEY OBVIOUSLY WANT ME TO ANNOUNCE IT

    LOVE MARIA BELEN CHAPUR

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  8. By dirtbogger August 10, 2009 at 9:59 am

    Ms Cambell,
    you can not protest Bush’s wars without protesting Obamas make no mistake Bush’s war machine lives on through Obama. He expanded Afganistain, we are still in Iraq now we are bombing Pakastain, and we are also beating war drums with Iran and North Korea. You dont hear much about it but Russia is threatening us with world war if we touch Iran. Obama is also kept The Patriot Act in tact which is the worst legislation in my life time, that severly eroded the bill of rights, did you know that if we have a terrost attack on the scale of 911 or get hit with swine flew drasticaly or have a nation desaster, Martial Law is to be declared rendering us a dictatorship. Also he plans to bring back the draft. Proofin his own words: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtDSwyCPEsQ

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  9. By BC August 10, 2009 at 11:32 am

    I wanted to provide a focal point on all the conversation about Health Care Reform. Read through House Resolution (HR) 3200. There are also HR 956, HR 1495, and S 4 that are coming out of committees in Congress. Stay informed and do your research (if that’s hard to grasp…we called it homework back in school.)

    What the GOP is doing is not a debate. They are encouraging and even leading people to develop a type of mob psychology without the participants knowing. A debate does not include riot like behavior, shouting at the speaker, being downright disrespectful and intimidating to others. The message that the GOP is encouraging is not playing out well with others and even moderates in either party.

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  10. By Joe August 10, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    “A debate does not include riot like behavior, shouting at the speaker, being downright disrespectful and intimidating to others.”

    LOL…you mean tactics like shouting down and drowning out conservative speakers on college campuses? You mean tactics like vandalizing churches and other property when a vote (Prop 8) doesn’t go your way? You mean like hiring thugs to stand outside polling places for the sole purpose of intimidating voters? You mean like reporting to the WH on your neighbor’s “fishy” behavior? You mean like the SEIU putting a beatdown on a dissenter in St. Louis? You mean like Speaker Pelosi saying dissenters are “showing up with swastikas”? And, as Laura so eloquently stated earlier, if you disagree with the president it clearly means you’re a racist? Pot….meet kettle.

    FYI, there are two main bills right now at the focal point of health care “reform”. And under both, you would lose these five freedoms:

    http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/24/news/economy/health_care_reform_obama.fortune/

    Are you sure this is this “change we can believe in”?

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  11. By K Trane August 10, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    A black man was assaulted in St. Louis by SEIU union thugs. Where was the ACLU and NAACP? Do they not defend the rights of black conservatives?

    What have we become?

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  12. By Laura Campbell August 10, 2009 at 1:18 pm

    Thanks for the info. on the bills. Not trying to step on toes, and I’m just as concerned about what Obama is doing as anyone else. I still stand behind my statement, though. And the fact that I swear no allegiance to any one politico or party. The middle of the road is quite the dangerous place to be.

    That being said, how much DID the Iraqi war cost? Why was the removal of Hussein not carried out by Special Ops? Is it true that Saudi Arabia owns 7% of Amercia? Just asking.

    For further info. on Obama and his administration, has anyone seen “The Obama Deception” online? Look it up while researching Papa Bush’s position in the intelligence community prior to his presidency and why Reagan did not want him as vice-president. Explains a lot about current affairs.

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  13. By The Baldmongoose August 10, 2009 at 2:40 pm

    Really? Are you seriously asking why Saddam Hussein was not removed by Special Ops?

    You know that feeling when someone makes a really stupid comment and it just bounces around in your head all day until your head is about to explode? Well, I feel a headache coming on … thanks.

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  14. By dirtbogger August 10, 2009 at 2:41 pm

    Yes I saw The Obama Deception. Unfortunatly most people would cut it off after the first few minutes, but the second half drives home the point very well. I am Glad you brought it up Good documentary and it will get people thinking. Now I have an assignment for you, go watch Loose Change, and then Zero and get back to me. I am happy that you are willing to look at the whole left right thing from out side of the party lines as it is only a dog and pony show.

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  15. By confused August 10, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    bc, so you’re saying these people are not sentient, autonomous people? they’re simply puppets for the well-heeled interests on k street, and have no legitimate beef with anyone? brainless minions of the “pubs” or “neocons” or whatever you people call conservatives these days?

    see, that’s part of the damn problem with liberals. you think people are stupid and brainless (or racist, or whatever other pejorative label you want to use that day) just because they don’t agree with you. i suppose it’s easier than acknowledging the flaws in your position–much simpler to say “these people are lunatic fringe morons” than to say “wait just a second. you mean the country’s really concerned about this issue? they really don’t like what they’re hearing?” but i know, you’ll say “this isn’t REALLY what people think. these people are just screaming the loudest.”

    this country is about dissent. you guys pissed and moaned for the last 8 years. now it’s your turn to get yelled at. and come to think of it, the “screaming the loudest” thing is a bit of a karmic bite on the ass for liberals these days, too. after all, unions constitute about 12% of the workforce. and yet you guys have been shoving that down the rest of our throats for years…

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  16. By dirtbogger August 10, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    I have to agree with baldmonkey on that one I mean really how are we gona get that military base in Iraq or secure that oil from Russia and China, and we need a place to launch attacks on Iran like outlined by the think tank (Project For A New American Centry (PNAC))
    http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

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  17. By The Baldmongoose August 10, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    I wasn’t being sarcastic … it’s really a stupid question.

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  18. By Laura Campbell August 10, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Hardly a stupid question. My husband was an 82nd Airborne Special Ops. and Gulf War Veteran. Perhaps he could better present the case that it was indeed a job for a small unit of spec. forces ops.

    He has a hard time with memory and conversations, though, considering the exposure to SCUDS (but they were just blanks, yeah right) and the experimental drugs given to soldiers over there. Did you know that Clinton reversed a WWII ruling that no person could be experimented upon nor given experimental drugs without that person’s consent? Was probably a pretty easy decision to make, considering the U.S. knew what Hussein had in his arsenal, having sold it to his country.

    To dirtbogger, saw those as well. Absolutely an inside job. Gotta have a good reason to start such a costly war. Is it true that while all planes were grounded that day, that at least 1 member of the Saudi Royal Family was placed on a plane and flown home? Hmmm…

    DON’T TAKE MY WORD FOR ALL THIS, THOUGH. The Internet is loaded with proof, look it up yourselves.

    When the citizens of this country get past the talking heads, cult of personality, and Republican vs. Democrat mentality, they will have time to find out the truth of what our government does, and has done, for decades. Some of what our government does makes Nazi Germany look like Utopia.

    .

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  19. By The Baldmongoose August 10, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    I’m going to leave it at this, since Saddam is WAY off topic of the original post.

    If we simply took out Saddam someone else who was just as cruel/crazy would have taken his place i.e. his sons. Taking out a regime cannot be accomplished through a single “special op” mission.

    I know everyone likes to believe in conspiracy theories and all that, but if it was just as simple as taking out one person the military would have done so. It would have made the war much easier if Saddam was “taken out” the first day. In fact, we did try on several occasions with guided missiles but he wasn’t there due to old intelligence. So, it turns out that it was a good thing we didn’t send troops on the ground to fight it out for nothing. I’m going to assume that one of the many reasons we didn’t send in troops on the ground was because we never knew his precise location.

    I’m really not trying to attack you personally and I apologize for calling it a stupid question. I should have said it was a poorly thought out question.

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  20. By dirtbogger August 11, 2009 at 8:21 am

    Yes Sadam was bad, he gassed and killed 5,000 of his own people, but we have killed 1/10 of their population and we have had 4330 troops killed there not counting the ones wounded witch is over 30,000. How buch blood has to be spilt to avenge the 5000 lost on 911 which many of us know with out a dout was an inside job. How would we feel if China invaded us to protect us from Obama, that is why the keep fighting they just want their country back. I know its off subject but it is my patriotic duty to make people aware their country has been hijacked by a bounch of greedy blood thirsty oligarchs.

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  21. By Laura Campbell August 11, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    Past government activity under both Papa and Georgie Bush have everything to do with issues being presented by Obama, including health care reform.

    The trilliions spent in Iraq and Afganistan could have been used in this country to improve a number of issues. Health Care Reform is one. Veteran’s care is one. Another area costing taxpayers heavily is the overwhelming number of vets and mentally ill persons in prisons, as well.

    Wake up, folks. We’ve all been bamboozled by Obama and others, and he is, indeed, as much as I was hoping he would not be, just another puppet, and it’s just a case of “new boss same as the old boss”.

    Blood-thirsty oligarchs indeed. Research Bush and Obama, compare the 2, and healthcare reform will be the last concern on your mind.

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