What ObamaCare Looks Like
Congressional Republicans rarely get credit for creativity, but we’re giving them props today for a nice illustration of what government-mandated socialized medicine will look like.
Oh, and did we mention this costs $1.5 trillion?
You can view the full chart by clicking here.
Comments
By 1+1=3 on July 17th, 2009 at 9:13 am
You’re right – It’s much easier the way it is now – get sick and die with no insurance
By confused on July 17th, 2009 at 10:10 am
i wonder if anyone’s ever broken down the numbers on how many people “get sick and die with no insurance” versus how many people get life-saving medical care with insurance under the current system? i mean, i know obama’s the chosen one and all, but surely he can’t save people’s lives?
By FWFIV on July 17th, 2009 at 10:30 am
This is not a new gimmick from republicans, we got the same thing from them during the Clinton health care debate. They are still trying to scare people. Keep in mind, every member of Congress who derides and criticizes government run health care is served by, guess what? GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE!! The hypocrisy is amazing.
http://crooksandliars.com/logan-murphy/new-health-care-flow-chart-pushes-bac
By confused on July 17th, 2009 at 11:09 am
fwfiv, when i worked for the house, my health care was through blue cross.
By Fred on July 17th, 2009 at 11:20 am
FWFIV
You should be honest. Your post is not.
The government health care that Congress receives is in no way related to the government health care you or I would receive. Their coverage is Rolls Royce, and ours would be Model A.
To imply so is a gross distortion, and simply false.
By sid on July 17th, 2009 at 11:50 am
And the left trots out the same, tired response that Republicans are trying to mislead and confuse without any actual proof. The chart worked with the Clinton scheme, and most hope it will work today, because it is actually true. It would create a ridiculously complex system. Keep in mind that every member of Congress who blindly supports the Obama plan without ever having read it is served by a completely DIFFERENT form of government run health care than is being proposed by the Chosen One. Not only is Congressional health care far superior to anything suggested for the masses, but most legislatora are wealthy enough to not be affected by the proposal even if they were subject to it
By danny on July 17th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Isn’t it great that the House health care bill exempts Congress from participating in Obamacare?
I want an exemption, too!
By FWFIV on July 17th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Fred-
You are confusing the issue and willfully ignoring the arguments made by conservatives about “government run” health care. The idea put forth by many on the right is that anything managed by the government will be bad.
Just google “gop talking points health care” and you will see scores of quotes relating to this notion.
I am merely pointing out that every member of Congress is served by a government funded health care system, the same type of system they disparage. Since the bill for health care has not been written, we have no way of knowing exactly what a public government option will include.
So, it is your comment that is dishonest, not mine.
By salvo on July 17th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Yeh, fwfiv, that chart looks simple enough, doesn’t it?
By TotalWench on July 17th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Look for the recent Bill Moyers interview with a former health insurance executive who carefully explains the process that insurance companies go through to discredit any publicly-managed plan. Every Republican Congressman who has spoken against health care reform used nearly verbatim quotes provided by insurance company marketing people. Health care is big money and to protect their interests, companies would much rather people die than have access to government-managed care. I would much rather a gov’t policy decline my claim because the procedure or meds are not cost-effective than have a private company decline it so their executives can have an extra million bonus.
By James the Foot Soldier on July 17th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
FWFIV: Actually the democrats in congress are proposing a public health plan modeled after Medicare – that many informed democrats know is sure to doom the plan. You know, the Medicare health plan that the Medicare trustees recently issued a report on that said it will be INSOLVENT in just a few more years.
Note to democrats: thanks for that Ponzi scheme – those at the bottom of the pyramid can’t wait to get fucked in the ass with higher taxes and rationed benefits.
Fred: keep up the good fight – readers will notice the moveondotorg dufus didn’t give ANY substantive (because there is none) reason to his whacked notion that you were wrong.
By James the Foot Soldier on July 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Wow – the moveondotorg kool-aid drinkers are putting on the full court press.
Note to TotalWench – 56 conservative DEMOCRATS are scuttling the Obama race towards communism….if only republicans would have had such back-bones over the last 10 years.
By adiddydog on July 18th, 2009 at 12:57 am
Obamacare and Clintoncare are both modeled after the Canadian Medicare system. If universal healthcare is indeed so wonderful, why oh why are there Canadians who need expensive surgeries crossing the border and getting their much needed surgeries in America’s “horrible” hospital system.
By adiddydog on July 18th, 2009 at 12:59 am
I have a feeling it has something to do with the years of waiting for surgeries that they will do almost immediately here.
By liz on July 18th, 2009 at 7:21 am
I’ve been living the reason you do not want Mark Sanford and Lindsey Graham involved in your health care.
I am NOT GETTING ANY HEALTHCARE BECAUSE I AM SICK……. and because I worked TOO LONG with my lifetime illness, called and legally labeled a disability.
My Administrative decision was not accepted by Judge Ben DeBerry on orders from the man who privatized Social Security.
So I LOST EVERYTHING I WORKED FOR.
I worked by the way, as a Registered Nurse for eleven years with my lifetime illness which was misdiagnosed and has never been treated because of the problems Mark Sanford created for me.
Governor you may run… but you cannot hide.
You created a crisis for me, the state and the United States Government.
COME CLEAN MARK> TELL US WHAT YOU DID AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING
By LouisianaPurchase on July 18th, 2009 at 8:26 am
I feel powerless and very, very frightened… both my husband and I work in healthcare and see misuse of resources by patients; doctors practicing defensive medicine so they won’t be sued; insurance companies dictating which medications can be prescribed; ridiculous restrictions placed on hospitals and doctors by Medicare; the list goes on and on…
None of this can be solved by a House or Senate bill hastily passed. KNOWLEDGEABLE, rational heads need to sit at the table to work this out. Layering more levels of bureaucracy on the problem does not help the patient. And after all, isn’t this what it’s all about?
By Jay on July 27th, 2009 at 7:13 am
Look LouisianaPurchase, she is scared…. guess the fear mongering is working by the Republicans. Wake up people you should be scared that the Republicans are screwing around with this and not wanting to do anything. I am scared that Republicans are just trying to delay in hopes of winning enough seats in 2010 so they can kill it next year and then we won’t have to hear about Health Care reform, the same as 1994. That is why they pulled out the same lame incorrect chart again, just with more colors.
By Ben on August 1st, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Just a question, if our health insurance is already partially government owned what’s the big stink about? Most countries in Europe have government run healthcare, right? I’m no doctor but aren’t countries like Switzerland and Sweeden far more advanced in the procedures they provide. Also don’t most of those countries have shorter work weeks and more paid vacation than us?
By SaveOurCountryFromSocialism on August 13th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Demoncrats and Republicans will never come to a working agreement on this issue. They are all looking for cake under a rock. If both parties were truly serious about health care reform, they would be working together on a bill to provide national health clinics, staffed by doctors that would have their student loans paid by the government. Low cost medicines for all should be provided by legitimate caps on cost. We pay higher prices while other countries get a discount, this should be reversed. Medical and testing procedures such as MRIs, surgery etc. should have caps to make them more affordable for all families by helping to bring down the cost of insurance. Insurance companies should be required to offer lower cost insurance according to a percentage average set up to determine premiums paid in versus payments paid out. Profits are one thing, gouging is another. It all seems pretty simple to me and and funds required for maintaining such clinics for the poor can be paid for with government funds saved by doing away with pork barrel spending. obama promised no pork barrel and immediately broke his promise by signing a bill that contained 9000 earmarks. We don’t need a universal, one size fits all, obamacare system. What we need is for the medical profession to be reigned in so as to be affordable to all legal families. The profit margins of all the medical entities have gotten completely out of hand!
Illegals in our country should not be included in any health care system we have. Illegals in our country should be required to pay for all of their health care until they are deported. Illegal is illegal and they should all be deported, period!!