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	<title>Comments on: Resign, Mark</title>
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		<title>By: Jim H</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/06/25/resign-mark/#comment-59477</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t argue with the analysis, Wil, but in the end I have to say that it doesn&#039;t rise to a level that makes me say he has to resign. That&#039;s a personal decision, but I can&#039;t see anything here that&#039;s egregious in terms of what matters to South Carolina.

Complaints about him leaving his post are contradicted by the claim that his only power is a &quot;bully pulpit.&quot; With the legislative session adjourned until next January, there was nothing going on that needed his attention. No hurricanes heading for the coast. The only reason anyone noticed that he was missing was because they had e-mails that strongly suggested WHY he was absent. Otherwise: yawn.

As for travel that combined personal matters with government business, that happens all the time. It happens in the private and public sector. The State Bar has its annual meeting at a resort, so that a little business can get conducted to justify what is actually a vacation (albeit with hordes of lawyers).

And I don&#039;t really care about his personal life dramas. I&#039;m a &quot;Don&#039;t Ask, Don&#039;t Tell&quot; person. If you&#039;re doing your job, then get on with it. What&#039;s standing in Sanford&#039;s way is not Sanford but people who are exploiting a personal indiscretion and trying to stymie progress. I&#039;d rather tell THEM to stop gumming up the works, than tell Sanford to step down for this. In fact, I think it is bizarre that a week spent with a woman he is ga-ga over is in some way MORE offensive to many of his critics than other hard-nosed decisions he made that actually impact South Carolinians.

If he wants to resign for personal reasons, that&#039;s his business. But I see nothing here to justify having him step down in the manner of NJ Governor Jim McGreevey (made his lover the head of NJ&#039;s homeland security apparatus; failed to disclose the relationship as required by law) or NY Governor Eliot Spitzer (high-end hooker, broke law) and I see even less culpability than Spitzer&#039;s successor David Patterson who had one of several affairs with a state employee. I think much of the outrage here is either feigned or rooted in other grievances that people have with Sanford.

And then, when you throw in Andre Bauer, the whole Calculus of this gets real simple, real fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t argue with the analysis, Wil, but in the end I have to say that it doesn&#8217;t rise to a level that makes me say he has to resign. That&#8217;s a personal decision, but I can&#8217;t see anything here that&#8217;s egregious in terms of what matters to South Carolina.</p>
<p>Complaints about him leaving his post are contradicted by the claim that his only power is a &#8220;bully pulpit.&#8221; With the legislative session adjourned until next January, there was nothing going on that needed his attention. No hurricanes heading for the coast. The only reason anyone noticed that he was missing was because they had e-mails that strongly suggested WHY he was absent. Otherwise: yawn.</p>
<p>As for travel that combined personal matters with government business, that happens all the time. It happens in the private and public sector. The State Bar has its annual meeting at a resort, so that a little business can get conducted to justify what is actually a vacation (albeit with hordes of lawyers).</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t really care about his personal life dramas. I&#8217;m a &#8220;Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell&#8221; person. If you&#8217;re doing your job, then get on with it. What&#8217;s standing in Sanford&#8217;s way is not Sanford but people who are exploiting a personal indiscretion and trying to stymie progress. I&#8217;d rather tell THEM to stop gumming up the works, than tell Sanford to step down for this. In fact, I think it is bizarre that a week spent with a woman he is ga-ga over is in some way MORE offensive to many of his critics than other hard-nosed decisions he made that actually impact South Carolinians.</p>
<p>If he wants to resign for personal reasons, that&#8217;s his business. But I see nothing here to justify having him step down in the manner of NJ Governor Jim McGreevey (made his lover the head of NJ&#8217;s homeland security apparatus; failed to disclose the relationship as required by law) or NY Governor Eliot Spitzer (high-end hooker, broke law) and I see even less culpability than Spitzer&#8217;s successor David Patterson who had one of several affairs with a state employee. I think much of the outrage here is either feigned or rooted in other grievances that people have with Sanford.</p>
<p>And then, when you throw in Andre Bauer, the whole Calculus of this gets real simple, real fast.</p>
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		<title>By: Bauer&#8217;s Palace Coup &#124; The Palmetto Scoop</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/06/25/resign-mark/#comment-59279</link>
		<dc:creator>Bauer&#8217;s Palace Coup &#124; The Palmetto Scoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Friday, Folks wrote that Bauer was &#8220;smarter than we thought,&#8221; while the day before calling on Sanford to resign. Just two days prior to that, however, Folks attacked both Bauer and Knotts for their concern in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Friday, Folks wrote that Bauer was &#8220;smarter than we thought,&#8221; while the day before calling on Sanford to resign. Just two days prior to that, however, Folks attacked both Bauer and Knotts for their concern in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Checking In</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/06/25/resign-mark/#comment-58995</link>
		<dc:creator>Checking In</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillip Branton again proving his lunacy... FBI? email trackers? um, how about an pissed off wife, or scorned ex husband....those thoughts ever croo your mind moron

BTW...Well written Will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip Branton again proving his lunacy&#8230; FBI? email trackers? um, how about an pissed off wife, or scorned ex husband&#8230;.those thoughts ever croo your mind moron</p>
<p>BTW&#8230;Well written Will.</p>
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		<title>By: scooter</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/06/25/resign-mark/#comment-58982</link>
		<dc:creator>scooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, glass houses, man. Let us not pretend we are above misbehavior. Whatever happens, and I hope sanford resigns, I will vote for Andre if he runs. People need to get over the speeding ticket etc: How long has that been? And the lady who outed several Republicans later said she knew absolutely nothing about these people and their personal lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, glass houses, man. Let us not pretend we are above misbehavior. Whatever happens, and I hope sanford resigns, I will vote for Andre if he runs. People need to get over the speeding ticket etc: How long has that been? And the lady who outed several Republicans later said she knew absolutely nothing about these people and their personal lives.</p>
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		<title>By: dc</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/06/25/resign-mark/#comment-58947</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will&#039;s fine piece draws the right conclusion: Sanford should resign. But it&#039;s not quite right to suggest that his reform agenda would go down the drain along with him: It went down the drain long ago. I may be wrong, but I think Sanford&#039;s biggest weakness as a politician was his inability or unwillingness to advance his agenda by refusing to allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good. As professor Edgar as USC noted in his marvelous history of S.C., past successful reformist governors (Campbell, Hollings, Thurmond and many others) used the bully pulpit to drive reforms, then settled with the legislature to advance the state toward better government. Sanford has proven incapable of doing that.

As for Andre Bauer, Will, perhaps an 18-month stint in the top job would expose him for the goober he is. Or would the voters just not notice? I am not an S.C. native but one of those dreaded Yankee transplants who loves, really, loves the place. Corroption and inefficiency are not endemic to S.C. alone but just as rampant in some states up north: Pa., N.Y., Ohio, Ill., for example. Here, as in those places, corruption and waste persist because the voters keep on allowing it. The voters put Sanford in power in &#039;02 on the power of his reform agenda (he ran one of the most honest, explicit campaigns I have ever seen that year); but the voters didn&#039;t bother to back him up with enough legislators to make his agenda a lock -- and, as I&#039;ve said, he lacked the temperament and political skills to finagle the reforms that matter most to him and us.

Now he cracks under the strain of failure while proving that he has a heart vulnerable to the same forces that drive the rest of us, on occasion, to do foolish things -- not only to cheat on his good wife but also to lie to the public while abusing public resources. Sad.

dc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will&#8217;s fine piece draws the right conclusion: Sanford should resign. But it&#8217;s not quite right to suggest that his reform agenda would go down the drain along with him: It went down the drain long ago. I may be wrong, but I think Sanford&#8217;s biggest weakness as a politician was his inability or unwillingness to advance his agenda by refusing to allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good. As professor Edgar as USC noted in his marvelous history of S.C., past successful reformist governors (Campbell, Hollings, Thurmond and many others) used the bully pulpit to drive reforms, then settled with the legislature to advance the state toward better government. Sanford has proven incapable of doing that.</p>
<p>As for Andre Bauer, Will, perhaps an 18-month stint in the top job would expose him for the goober he is. Or would the voters just not notice? I am not an S.C. native but one of those dreaded Yankee transplants who loves, really, loves the place. Corroption and inefficiency are not endemic to S.C. alone but just as rampant in some states up north: Pa., N.Y., Ohio, Ill., for example. Here, as in those places, corruption and waste persist because the voters keep on allowing it. The voters put Sanford in power in &#8217;02 on the power of his reform agenda (he ran one of the most honest, explicit campaigns I have ever seen that year); but the voters didn&#8217;t bother to back him up with enough legislators to make his agenda a lock &#8212; and, as I&#8217;ve said, he lacked the temperament and political skills to finagle the reforms that matter most to him and us.</p>
<p>Now he cracks under the strain of failure while proving that he has a heart vulnerable to the same forces that drive the rest of us, on occasion, to do foolish things &#8212; not only to cheat on his good wife but also to lie to the public while abusing public resources. Sad.</p>
<p>dc</p>
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		<title>By: tc</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/06/25/resign-mark/#comment-58938</link>
		<dc:creator>tc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Alright?&quot;  Try &quot;all right.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Alright?&#8221;  Try &#8220;all right.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: calhoun fawls</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/06/25/resign-mark/#comment-58909</link>
		<dc:creator>calhoun fawls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for you Sic Willie. Sanford is done.  He seems to me like the husband and father who apologizes after the wife catches him.  What is it Eddie Murphy said, &quot;Yes, I was f$$ing her, but I make love to you, are you going to believe me or your lying eyes.&quot;  

Mark Sanford was not really sorry for doing someone &quot;exotic&quot; but was damn sure sorry he got caught. Goodbye, Mark Sanford.  Go away.  We are, forgive me Willie, sick of you. Conservatives can kick Andre&#039;s ass soon enough if n4eed be, but you, Governor, need to just go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for you Sic Willie. Sanford is done.  He seems to me like the husband and father who apologizes after the wife catches him.  What is it Eddie Murphy said, &#8220;Yes, I was f$$ing her, but I make love to you, are you going to believe me or your lying eyes.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Mark Sanford was not really sorry for doing someone &#8220;exotic&#8221; but was damn sure sorry he got caught. Goodbye, Mark Sanford.  Go away.  We are, forgive me Willie, sick of you. Conservatives can kick Andre&#8217;s ass soon enough if n4eed be, but you, Governor, need to just go.</p>
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		<title>By: Mab</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/06/25/resign-mark/#comment-58887</link>
		<dc:creator>Mab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well-said, Will.</description>
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		<title>By: fitsnews</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/06/25/resign-mark/#comment-58880</link>
		<dc:creator>fitsnews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob-

You nailed us.

-FITS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob-</p>
<p>You nailed us.</p>
<p>-FITS</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/06/25/resign-mark/#comment-58879</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You’ve shown with this emotional column here that you are indeed a class-act, as is the website that you have built. Thanks, and we’ll keep reading!&quot;

Oh. I thought it reeked of the kind of hypocrisy Internet smear merchants delve into when they finally have some scrap thrown to them that allows them to drag down their former friends. I wonder how many &quot;emotional columns&quot; the Governor wrote about you after you roughed up your old lady?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You’ve shown with this emotional column here that you are indeed a class-act, as is the website that you have built. Thanks, and we’ll keep reading!&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh. I thought it reeked of the kind of hypocrisy Internet smear merchants delve into when they finally have some scrap thrown to them that allows them to drag down their former friends. I wonder how many &#8220;emotional columns&#8221; the Governor wrote about you after you roughed up your old lady?</p>
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