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	<title>Comments on: Herzog: Left Ignores &#8220;Islamic Gender Apartheid&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Pat Hendrix</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/05/27/herzog-left-ignores-islamic-gender-apartheid/#comment-55749</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat Hendrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 12:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Mike, you managed to miss the point entirely. The issue, as detailed in the title, was &quot;left ignores gender apartheid.&quot; Well, no it doesn&#039;t and never did. Some vocal support in university circles for Hammas, as if the university setting encapsulated the entirety of of the left, has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Liberal groups have been the primary voices in the discussion of gender discrimination in Islam and mutilation in Africa and the Middle East for decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Mike, you managed to miss the point entirely. The issue, as detailed in the title, was &#8220;left ignores gender apartheid.&#8221; Well, no it doesn&#8217;t and never did. Some vocal support in university circles for Hammas, as if the university setting encapsulated the entirety of of the left, has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Liberal groups have been the primary voices in the discussion of gender discrimination in Islam and mutilation in Africa and the Middle East for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 03:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, no strawman argument here- Do even a quick review online for articles detailing the very real level of support for Hamas and Hezbollah among the far left wing of the American political scene.  Back during my days as a counter-terrorism official, I was practically booed off of a speakers&#039; panel at a SC university for suggesting that Hamas (or at the very least its paramilitary wing) functioned as a terrorist organization.  Never mind the fact that most western democracies (even the EU) agree. Who led the charge against me there? One of the left-wing, nutcake professors on the panel with me...

The article may have been a bit overdone, but the underlying thesis is sound. 

By the way, Pat&#039;s point regarding the late arrival of American conservatives to this party- dead on.  The intelligence community has communicated this message as clearly as we could to the political class for many years, but as we all know they hear what they want to hear based upon their own agendas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, no strawman argument here- Do even a quick review online for articles detailing the very real level of support for Hamas and Hezbollah among the far left wing of the American political scene.  Back during my days as a counter-terrorism official, I was practically booed off of a speakers&#8217; panel at a SC university for suggesting that Hamas (or at the very least its paramilitary wing) functioned as a terrorist organization.  Never mind the fact that most western democracies (even the EU) agree. Who led the charge against me there? One of the left-wing, nutcake professors on the panel with me&#8230;</p>
<p>The article may have been a bit overdone, but the underlying thesis is sound. </p>
<p>By the way, Pat&#8217;s point regarding the late arrival of American conservatives to this party- dead on.  The intelligence community has communicated this message as clearly as we could to the political class for many years, but as we all know they hear what they want to hear based upon their own agendas.</p>
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		<title>By: Mab</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/05/27/herzog-left-ignores-islamic-gender-apartheid/#comment-55678</link>
		<dc:creator>Mab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 20:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat,

Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mab</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/05/27/herzog-left-ignores-islamic-gender-apartheid/#comment-55677</link>
		<dc:creator>Mab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 20:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very much so, Cadet.  Why do you ask?  That sounds awfully similar to the old KKK propaganda that certain races don&#039;t have souls.  Ummmmmmmmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very much so, Cadet.  Why do you ask?  That sounds awfully similar to the old KKK propaganda that certain races don&#8217;t have souls.  Ummmmmmmmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Hendrix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Hendrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Mab, I&#039;m referring to the fact your posts are totally devoid of fact. And to only skim my posts, you certainly do respond to them enough. Figured you had a crush. 

And I&#039;m not sure what &quot;hive&quot; I hang out in? I hang around fitsnews, a giant right-wing circle jerk. You on the other hand hang around sinlituplands.com. I bet there is wide variety of opinions there. Do you know the word irony?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Mab, I&#8217;m referring to the fact your posts are totally devoid of fact. And to only skim my posts, you certainly do respond to them enough. Figured you had a crush. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not sure what &#8220;hive&#8221; I hang out in? I hang around fitsnews, a giant right-wing circle jerk. You on the other hand hang around sinlituplands.com. I bet there is wide variety of opinions there. Do you know the word irony?</p>
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		<title>By: Cadetsuperintendent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cadetsuperintendent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know all muslims are not arabs, and that all arabs
are not muslim, but are they human at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know all muslims are not arabs, and that all arabs<br />
are not muslim, but are they human at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Mab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat,

Are you referring to my &quot;total and incomplete inability to use or acknowledge facts&quot; as they relate to your posts?

Are you kidding me?  I skim most of your posts unless you are specifically talking to me.  

One blogger refers to the Left as being &quot;hive minded.&quot;  

I am definitely not in your hive!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,</p>
<p>Are you referring to my &#8220;total and incomplete inability to use or acknowledge facts&#8221; as they relate to your posts?</p>
<p>Are you kidding me?  I skim most of your posts unless you are specifically talking to me.  </p>
<p>One blogger refers to the Left as being &#8220;hive minded.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I am definitely not in your hive!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Hendrix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Hendrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mab, I do like you the best on fits. Your penchant for exclamation points, your willingness to repeat absurd talking points almost fast as you repeat blog generated conspiracy theories, your total and incomplete inability to use or acknowledge facts – these tendencies make you a fitsnews Allstar.

Glad the orderlies let you use the computer today.

PS: If you rearranged the article you cited and replaced the word “Space Alien” with “Islamic” it would be far better. At least funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mab, I do like you the best on fits. Your penchant for exclamation points, your willingness to repeat absurd talking points almost fast as you repeat blog generated conspiracy theories, your total and incomplete inability to use or acknowledge facts – these tendencies make you a fitsnews Allstar.</p>
<p>Glad the orderlies let you use the computer today.</p>
<p>PS: If you rearranged the article you cited and replaced the word “Space Alien” with “Islamic” it would be far better. At least funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Mab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 17:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat,

You are ignoring all the required reading material I previously assigned you upon your request for me to do so.  Like this article -- which expounds upon &quot;the bizarre and singular marriage between the Left and Islamism.&quot;

http://sunlituplands.blogspot.com/2009/05/obamas-jewish-problem.html

Pay specific attention to these paragraphs, almost half-way down the page: 

&quot;In an article, “The United Hates of America,” David Solway comments on “...the long and destabilizing campaign of the American Left against the political interests of its own country and its rush to embrace the dictatorial agendas of America’s most resolute enemies...’the unholy alliance’ between the radical Left and the Islamic Right.” Solway also comments on a new book by Jamie Glazov, “United in Hate”:

“Glazov’s “analysis,” Solway continues, “seems the only conceivable means of making sense of the leftist orgy of national treason, betrayal of genuine liberal principles, and passionate support of tyrants and demagogues. It also clarifies the bizarre and singular marriage between the Left and Islamism...&quot;

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,</p>
<p>You are ignoring all the required reading material I previously assigned you upon your request for me to do so.  Like this article &#8212; which expounds upon &#8220;the bizarre and singular marriage between the Left and Islamism.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://sunlituplands.blogspot.com/2009/05/obamas-jewish-problem.html" rel="nofollow">http://sunlituplands.blogspot.com/2009/05/obamas-jewish-problem.html</a></p>
<p>Pay specific attention to these paragraphs, almost half-way down the page: </p>
<p>&#8220;In an article, “The United Hates of America,” David Solway comments on “&#8230;the long and destabilizing campaign of the American Left against the political interests of its own country and its rush to embrace the dictatorial agendas of America’s most resolute enemies&#8230;’the unholy alliance’ between the radical Left and the Islamic Right.” Solway also comments on a new book by Jamie Glazov, “United in Hate”:</p>
<p>“Glazov’s “analysis,” Solway continues, “seems the only conceivable means of making sense of the leftist orgy of national treason, betrayal of genuine liberal principles, and passionate support of tyrants and demagogues. It also clarifies the bizarre and singular marriage between the Left and Islamism&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Hendrix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Hendrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, another bullshit, strawman argument from Herzog. The grand total of her evidence to support the &quot;love affair between leftists in the West and radical Muslims&quot; is a Somalia ex-pat, a clown nobody has every heard of in Norway and a one sentence quote in an obscure journal.

Democratic politicians, left advocacy groups - including every feminist group, Amnesty International and dozens of other left-leaning human rights groups and individuals - have been assailing these practices with a universal voice for decades. Even the laziest search on the internet would have provided more than ample evidence that Herzog was intentionally and overwhelmingly full of shit.

So when did conservatives become concerned with these issues? Nixon, Ford Reagan and H.W. Bush said it was none of our concern. Right-wing activist groups didn&#039;t care as long as it didn&#039;t bother with cheap oil and the Cold War. They even condemned liberals for inserting themselves in the internal affairs of other countries. On the other side, Carter condemned these practices. So did Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright. Hillary Clinton had a speech in March 1999 where she said:

&quot;There probably is no more egregious and systematic trampling of fundamental rights of women today than what is happening in Afghanistan under the iron rule of the Taliban...We have heard all of us the stories of women being flogged with metal cables because a bit of ankle would be showing. We have heard of women being taken to hospital after hospital and finally dying ... because there were no women doctors and no male doctor could be permitted to treat the women,&quot; she continued...It is no longer acceptable to say that the abuse and mistreatment of women is cultural. It should be called what it is -- criminal.&quot;

So nice try, Ashley, but the facts suggest a reality altogether different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, another bullshit, strawman argument from Herzog. The grand total of her evidence to support the &#8220;love affair between leftists in the West and radical Muslims&#8221; is a Somalia ex-pat, a clown nobody has every heard of in Norway and a one sentence quote in an obscure journal.</p>
<p>Democratic politicians, left advocacy groups &#8211; including every feminist group, Amnesty International and dozens of other left-leaning human rights groups and individuals &#8211; have been assailing these practices with a universal voice for decades. Even the laziest search on the internet would have provided more than ample evidence that Herzog was intentionally and overwhelmingly full of shit.</p>
<p>So when did conservatives become concerned with these issues? Nixon, Ford Reagan and H.W. Bush said it was none of our concern. Right-wing activist groups didn&#8217;t care as long as it didn&#8217;t bother with cheap oil and the Cold War. They even condemned liberals for inserting themselves in the internal affairs of other countries. On the other side, Carter condemned these practices. So did Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright. Hillary Clinton had a speech in March 1999 where she said:</p>
<p>&#8220;There probably is no more egregious and systematic trampling of fundamental rights of women today than what is happening in Afghanistan under the iron rule of the Taliban&#8230;We have heard all of us the stories of women being flogged with metal cables because a bit of ankle would be showing. We have heard of women being taken to hospital after hospital and finally dying &#8230; because there were no women doctors and no male doctor could be permitted to treat the women,&#8221; she continued&#8230;It is no longer acceptable to say that the abuse and mistreatment of women is cultural. It should be called what it is &#8212; criminal.&#8221;</p>
<p>So nice try, Ashley, but the facts suggest a reality altogether different.</p>
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