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	<title>Comments on: Card-Check Going Down?</title>
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		<title>By: DanR</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/05/05/card-check-going-down/#comment-53873</link>
		<dc:creator>DanR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 17:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This bill will only open the door to deception, harassment, or worse actions. This can still come back in another form in another bill. Reaching out to your elected officials is the best way to defeat this. It&#039;s not over yet. I was on the US Chamber&#039;s site and found this letter you can send to the folks in Congress if you have a spare moment: http://capwiz.com/friendsoftheuschamber/issues/alert/?alertid=12426031. We need to make sure every worker has the freedom to choose what&#039;s best for themselves and their families.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bill will only open the door to deception, harassment, or worse actions. This can still come back in another form in another bill. Reaching out to your elected officials is the best way to defeat this. It&#8217;s not over yet. I was on the US Chamber&#8217;s site and found this letter you can send to the folks in Congress if you have a spare moment: <a href="http://capwiz.com/friendsoftheuschamber/issues/alert/?alertid=12426031" rel="nofollow">http://capwiz.com/friendsoftheuschamber/issues/alert/?alertid=12426031</a>. We need to make sure every worker has the freedom to choose what&#8217;s best for themselves and their families.</p>
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		<title>By: FarLeftRx</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/05/05/card-check-going-down/#comment-53662</link>
		<dc:creator>FarLeftRx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 16:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie, I too just conferred with Jimmy Hoffa in his crypt at the Meadlowlands and he affirmed that you are lying just as any good union goon would. I&#039;ve studied and blogged about the EFCA for months, and one thing I know for sure is that no union organizer in his or her right mind would ever call for an election whe s/he can unionize with 50.000000000000001 percent of the employees&#039; signing cards. The only way the workers can request a secret ballot, election, smelection, whatever you want to call it, is after the company has been unionized. They can then collect 50.000000000000001 percent of the employees&#039; signatures to call for a vote for decertification. Up until the union is in place, the organizers alone are the ones who can call for an election. Even the Soviets managed to hold elections (rigged, of course), but the EFCA takes us into 1984. What&#039;s next if this doesn&#039;t work? Voice vote with CDs&#039; blaring yes over the heads of the assembled workers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie, I too just conferred with Jimmy Hoffa in his crypt at the Meadlowlands and he affirmed that you are lying just as any good union goon would. I&#8217;ve studied and blogged about the EFCA for months, and one thing I know for sure is that no union organizer in his or her right mind would ever call for an election whe s/he can unionize with 50.000000000000001 percent of the employees&#8217; signing cards. The only way the workers can request a secret ballot, election, smelection, whatever you want to call it, is after the company has been unionized. They can then collect 50.000000000000001 percent of the employees&#8217; signatures to call for a vote for decertification. Up until the union is in place, the organizers alone are the ones who can call for an election. Even the Soviets managed to hold elections (rigged, of course), but the EFCA takes us into 1984. What&#8217;s next if this doesn&#8217;t work? Voice vote with CDs&#8217; blaring yes over the heads of the assembled workers?</p>
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		<title>By: The "Man"</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/05/05/card-check-going-down/#comment-53616</link>
		<dc:creator>The "Man"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the federal law that requires all states to recognize public safety employee unions and their right to negotiate even in right to work states such as South Carolina?  The secret ballot would be completely irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the federal law that requires all states to recognize public safety employee unions and their right to negotiate even in right to work states such as South Carolina?  The secret ballot would be completely irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: fitsnews</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/05/05/card-check-going-down/#comment-53586</link>
		<dc:creator>fitsnews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 17:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie, 

Your stats are obviously from the ghost of Hoffa. In fact, our research has determined Hoffa&#039;s ghost is 100% responsible for them.

RBB,

You are right, workers do have a secret ballot option at the moment - and will continue to, now that the card-check provision has been removed.

-FITS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie, </p>
<p>Your stats are obviously from the ghost of Hoffa. In fact, our research has determined Hoffa&#8217;s ghost is 100% responsible for them.</p>
<p>RBB,</p>
<p>You are right, workers do have a secret ballot option at the moment &#8211; and will continue to, now that the card-check provision has been removed.</p>
<p>-FITS</p>
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		<title>By: RedBank Bar</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/05/05/card-check-going-down/#comment-53585</link>
		<dc:creator>RedBank Bar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another lie from Will Folks.  Workers have the right to a secret ballot even with this bill.  The bill only says the Wally Worlds of the US can&#039;t invoke it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another lie from Will Folks.  Workers have the right to a secret ballot even with this bill.  The bill only says the Wally Worlds of the US can&#8217;t invoke it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Sanderson</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/05/05/card-check-going-down/#comment-53583</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Sanderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All wrong here. You really should learn not to compare secret ballots to the voting we do in the United States for elected office. The Employee Free Choice Act does not abolish elections. Under the proposed legislation, workers get to choose the union formation process—elections or majority sign-up. What the Employee Free Choice Act does prevent is an employer manipulating the flawed system to influence the election outcome.
When faced with organizing campaigns: 25 percent of employers illegally fire pro-union workers; 51 percent of employers illegally threaten to close down worksites if the union prevails; and, 34 percent of employers coerce workers into opposing the union with bribes and favoritism. 

Current union elections involving secret ballots bear no resemblance to political elections. Workers’ free speech rights are squelched, employers practice various forms of economic coercion, and labor law allows employers to indefinitely delay recognition through drawn-out appeals. Says University of Oregon political scientist Gordon Lafer, “The presence of secret ballots can’t overcome the corrupt nature of NLRB elections.”
Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All wrong here. You really should learn not to compare secret ballots to the voting we do in the United States for elected office. The Employee Free Choice Act does not abolish elections. Under the proposed legislation, workers get to choose the union formation process—elections or majority sign-up. What the Employee Free Choice Act does prevent is an employer manipulating the flawed system to influence the election outcome.<br />
When faced with organizing campaigns: 25 percent of employers illegally fire pro-union workers; 51 percent of employers illegally threaten to close down worksites if the union prevails; and, 34 percent of employers coerce workers into opposing the union with bribes and favoritism. </p>
<p>Current union elections involving secret ballots bear no resemblance to political elections. Workers’ free speech rights are squelched, employers practice various forms of economic coercion, and labor law allows employers to indefinitely delay recognition through drawn-out appeals. Says University of Oregon political scientist Gordon Lafer, “The presence of secret ballots can’t overcome the corrupt nature of NLRB elections.”<br />
Hope this helps.</p>
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