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		<title>By: franksboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>franksboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 02:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now who is impersonating little ol&#039; me? and why? I will make an effort to post longer and more often in my quest to do something worthwhile.

I&#039;ll certanly support Mr. Bednar&#039;s facts as he presented them and challenge anyone to show any errors.

And, whether this is Caltigger or your &quot;life partner&quot; - you still aren&#039;t thinking and submitting any sensible statements.  Maybe y&#039;all should just get on back in bed, smoke your whatever and enjoy the California way of life.  We have too much work to do over here to worry with  you.

And, that priority is curtailing the total ravaging of Clemson University for the sake of Jom Barker and Company&#039;s political ambitions, stop Kelly&#039;s partying while Clemson falls and at least slow  his ASSOCIATE from  checking out the new female students that happen to step within his reach. He does have a hard time keeping his hands in his pocket and zipper in the up position.

Seems this effort to make themselves immune to the Law is a last ditch effort to keep all of the waste products under cover - let&#039;s hope it the courts do what is right.  Seems this was not a successful tact back in the 1890&#039;s when Clemson flooded the neighbors land - let&#039;s hope  the modern day Courts are just as effective against this behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now who is impersonating little ol&#8217; me? and why? I will make an effort to post longer and more often in my quest to do something worthwhile.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll certanly support Mr. Bednar&#8217;s facts as he presented them and challenge anyone to show any errors.</p>
<p>And, whether this is Caltigger or your &#8220;life partner&#8221; &#8211; you still aren&#8217;t thinking and submitting any sensible statements.  Maybe y&#8217;all should just get on back in bed, smoke your whatever and enjoy the California way of life.  We have too much work to do over here to worry with  you.</p>
<p>And, that priority is curtailing the total ravaging of Clemson University for the sake of Jom Barker and Company&#8217;s political ambitions, stop Kelly&#8217;s partying while Clemson falls and at least slow  his ASSOCIATE from  checking out the new female students that happen to step within his reach. He does have a hard time keeping his hands in his pocket and zipper in the up position.</p>
<p>Seems this effort to make themselves immune to the Law is a last ditch effort to keep all of the waste products under cover &#8211; let&#8217;s hope it the courts do what is right.  Seems this was not a successful tact back in the 1890&#8242;s when Clemson flooded the neighbors land &#8211; let&#8217;s hope  the modern day Courts are just as effective against this behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: franksboy - get a life</title>
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		<dc:creator>franksboy - get a life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>franksboy (or is it Mr. Bednar?) - get a life.  You have way too much time on your hands.  Do something worthwhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>franksboy (or is it Mr. Bednar?) &#8211; get a life.  You have way too much time on your hands.  Do something worthwhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Notafan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Notafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about waiving out-of-state tuition for excellent candidates from other states? That means South Carolinians are subsidizing the education of out-of-state students. Why is Clemson a public school if their main purpose is not to educate South Carolinians?

And please don&#039;t tell me the majority of the student body is from of SC... that may have been true 10 years ago. I work here so I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about waiving out-of-state tuition for excellent candidates from other states? That means South Carolinians are subsidizing the education of out-of-state students. Why is Clemson a public school if their main purpose is not to educate South Carolinians?</p>
<p>And please don&#8217;t tell me the majority of the student body is from of SC&#8230; that may have been true 10 years ago. I work here so I know.</p>
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		<title>By: franksboy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calf tigger -   ????????????  Socialist Environment??????????  Undoubtedly  you landed in California as the only place that can stomach off the wall dizzy rants with no facts, reason or thought behind it.

After spending a long career in the Private Sector where I and my peers were judged and rewarded for excellence and results.  I want excellence, growth and total success for Clemson University - and, I want there to be an Administration that stands for excellence, dedication, effort and results in every phase.  BUT, not at the expense of having an environment of harassment, humiliation, abysmal lies to the employees/public/alumni - which has and is happening within this Administration.

If  you even partly understood the words  you&#039;re saying - you would be embarassed to have submitted the statement - 

Nothing I have said has even hinted at a Socialist Environment - I lived through a career directing  Tier one Suppliers to the Automotive Industry - survival there isn&#039;t for those who want to be mediocre or with a total dedication to creating results. But, I&#039;ll tell you this Sport, we did it in an honorable, fair environment for our people and our customers.  We didn&#039;t lie - take from the lower level to provide for the Staff - nor, did we pay for the fact of just being there - bring people back from retiring to pad their pockets with State money - or set our targets on some liberal magazine ranking.

Pam - nothing is wrong with what you said - as a matter of fact - those are the things that a University should be focused on - but, the reason for focusing is to do it for the students, for the parents and for the folks who support your school - not, some place in the ranking of a magazine that no one pays any attention to - except the Administation when they want to tout their magnificence.    

However, my anger, I prefer to say disappointment in this bunch at Clemson is their methods of making their goals.  And, their very quick hands when it comes to accepting and running with lofty rewards while abdicating principles, honor and truth.

lodger - I see your point but, I don&#039;t see the fact of graduating from Clemson being anything in his favor.  He has many people that graduated from Clemson that are trying to make a career at Clemson who he is ignoring, punishing and screwing over every day - and, telling them to enjoy it - or hit the road.  no bad performers - just people that are capable - have failed to comply with some (Clemson educated) PhD &quot;advances&quot; - or did not fall on the &quot;right&quot; side of a discussion - or showed a level of intelligence and common sense that intimidated a Dept Head. - 


And, California Boy - I don&#039;t mind a young man taking a pot shot at me but, do prepare your self and put forth some type logic in your statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calf tigger &#8211;   ????????????  Socialist Environment??????????  Undoubtedly  you landed in California as the only place that can stomach off the wall dizzy rants with no facts, reason or thought behind it.</p>
<p>After spending a long career in the Private Sector where I and my peers were judged and rewarded for excellence and results.  I want excellence, growth and total success for Clemson University &#8211; and, I want there to be an Administration that stands for excellence, dedication, effort and results in every phase.  BUT, not at the expense of having an environment of harassment, humiliation, abysmal lies to the employees/public/alumni &#8211; which has and is happening within this Administration.</p>
<p>If  you even partly understood the words  you&#8217;re saying &#8211; you would be embarassed to have submitted the statement &#8211; </p>
<p>Nothing I have said has even hinted at a Socialist Environment &#8211; I lived through a career directing  Tier one Suppliers to the Automotive Industry &#8211; survival there isn&#8217;t for those who want to be mediocre or with a total dedication to creating results. But, I&#8217;ll tell you this Sport, we did it in an honorable, fair environment for our people and our customers.  We didn&#8217;t lie &#8211; take from the lower level to provide for the Staff &#8211; nor, did we pay for the fact of just being there &#8211; bring people back from retiring to pad their pockets with State money &#8211; or set our targets on some liberal magazine ranking.</p>
<p>Pam &#8211; nothing is wrong with what you said &#8211; as a matter of fact &#8211; those are the things that a University should be focused on &#8211; but, the reason for focusing is to do it for the students, for the parents and for the folks who support your school &#8211; not, some place in the ranking of a magazine that no one pays any attention to &#8211; except the Administation when they want to tout their magnificence.    </p>
<p>However, my anger, I prefer to say disappointment in this bunch at Clemson is their methods of making their goals.  And, their very quick hands when it comes to accepting and running with lofty rewards while abdicating principles, honor and truth.</p>
<p>lodger &#8211; I see your point but, I don&#8217;t see the fact of graduating from Clemson being anything in his favor.  He has many people that graduated from Clemson that are trying to make a career at Clemson who he is ignoring, punishing and screwing over every day &#8211; and, telling them to enjoy it &#8211; or hit the road.  no bad performers &#8211; just people that are capable &#8211; have failed to comply with some (Clemson educated) PhD &#8220;advances&#8221; &#8211; or did not fall on the &#8220;right&#8221; side of a discussion &#8211; or showed a level of intelligence and common sense that intimidated a Dept Head. &#8211; </p>
<p>And, California Boy &#8211; I don&#8217;t mind a young man taking a pot shot at me but, do prepare your self and put forth some type logic in your statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Plantation University</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plantation University</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clemson&#039;s top 20 obsession was a smoke screen to enrich the top Clemson administrators. They have no ideals or desire to improve the education of the students which is the mission of a university. Barker, Helms and their cronies have $ signs in their pupils. 
Shame on you Barker and Helms</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clemson&#8217;s top 20 obsession was a smoke screen to enrich the top Clemson administrators. They have no ideals or desire to improve the education of the students which is the mission of a university. Barker, Helms and their cronies have $ signs in their pupils.<br />
Shame on you Barker and Helms</p>
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		<title>By: lodger_cu</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>franksboy - If Barker did not graduate from Clemson I could see many of your points, but he did graduate from Clemson.  Are you saying he is running the university he graduated from into the ground for his own personal gain?  Maybe he is a liar who has deceived many of us into thinking he wants what is best for Clemson.  Maybe I am moron for following this man into the dark abyss.  If the day does come that we all become aware of the wolf in sheep’s clothing then I will step up and say I am one of the many idiots who followed this man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>franksboy &#8211; If Barker did not graduate from Clemson I could see many of your points, but he did graduate from Clemson.  Are you saying he is running the university he graduated from into the ground for his own personal gain?  Maybe he is a liar who has deceived many of us into thinking he wants what is best for Clemson.  Maybe I am moron for following this man into the dark abyss.  If the day does come that we all become aware of the wolf in sheep’s clothing then I will step up and say I am one of the many idiots who followed this man.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franky, you are missing the point.  When I read the memo&#039;s I saw a commitment to improving graduation rates, keeping students enrolled, exploring why students might not progress and complete a degree.  What in the world is wrong with these ideals and efforts to help students.  I even saw on one of them a statement about doing what&#039;s right and funding the right thing even if it did not make a different to a rating.  So where&#039;s your anger from?  Who wants to be average?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franky, you are missing the point.  When I read the memo&#8217;s I saw a commitment to improving graduation rates, keeping students enrolled, exploring why students might not progress and complete a degree.  What in the world is wrong with these ideals and efforts to help students.  I even saw on one of them a statement about doing what&#8217;s right and funding the right thing even if it did not make a different to a rating.  So where&#8217;s your anger from?  Who wants to be average?</p>
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		<title>By: franksboy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lodger - After a tour with the US Army, I interviewed with several companies, some well above the Mason Dixon Line, and found no lack of respect, knowledge of or resistance to my degrees from Clemson University.  My first job was with a Company based, and I was based, far above the Mason Dixon Line. the people selecting me were very knowlegeable and appreciative of Clemson, my peers and subordinates were very well aware of Clemson and equally impressed with the School&#039;s reputation. Jim Barker was barely in grade school at the time.  Clemson has grown in the public&#039;s recognition and knowledge as has all other Institutions (want to check how many people had heard of Gonzaga) Mom &amp; Pop enterprises, off beat sports teams -  because of 2 things  -  TV and the Internet - Barker and his crowd have had personal growth because of being associated with Clemson.  The 6 memo&#039;s - no, I find nothing repulsive either - There are far worse things that are being revealed on this Administration and, likely, soon, very many others. But, the realtively old - 6 memo&#039;s - are certainly indicative of more than a &quot;let&#039;s do what&#039;s best for the University, the Students, the Alumni, the Taxpayers of SC and the University Employees&quot; go - instead focusing on the &quot;things&quot; that would score highest in this magazine&#039;s very questionable opinion.

I have to agree with you that Barker&#039;s actions are exactly what it takes for &quot;him&quot; to succeed.  Get himself publicly recognized, surround himself with a totally dedicated to him Staff (no better way than to find the ones that will trade ethics for pay increases, perceived power and freedom to pillage and use those more vunerable at will), create an atmosphere where you are completely guarded against those who might question your tactics or management.

Obciously, mismanagement of funds is prevalent throughout the Country.  We see that in every institution, agency and most Companies to some degree - and, the problem with that Statement - it is also done at Clemson - first, is it OK at Clemson because it&#039;s done at other places - but, my real concern there, is that it&#039;s done at Clemson at the direct expense and emotional destruction of Clemson Employees whom, for the most part, are highly capable, highly dedicated to the University but, for a myriad of reasons have fell out of favor of &quot;someone&quot; - the most disgusting reason is resistance to propostions of &quot;favors&quot; that some Dept Head has taken offense to and set out to drive the person(s) out of their job. These victims and many others who have put their souls into their jobs at Clemson - and,the major way of retalliation - being to withold any monies, no raises - and, without creating false documentation to indicate some bogus poor performance - they are simply lied to - told that there is no money available - 

The 6 memo&#039;s by themselves are - not the case against Clemson Administration - the methods that are veiled in the wording of those memo&#039;s are indicative of the thought process - and, that is personal glorification for publicity on a National Level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lodger &#8211; After a tour with the US Army, I interviewed with several companies, some well above the Mason Dixon Line, and found no lack of respect, knowledge of or resistance to my degrees from Clemson University.  My first job was with a Company based, and I was based, far above the Mason Dixon Line. the people selecting me were very knowlegeable and appreciative of Clemson, my peers and subordinates were very well aware of Clemson and equally impressed with the School&#8217;s reputation. Jim Barker was barely in grade school at the time.  Clemson has grown in the public&#8217;s recognition and knowledge as has all other Institutions (want to check how many people had heard of Gonzaga) Mom &amp; Pop enterprises, off beat sports teams &#8211;  because of 2 things  &#8211;  TV and the Internet &#8211; Barker and his crowd have had personal growth because of being associated with Clemson.  The 6 memo&#8217;s &#8211; no, I find nothing repulsive either &#8211; There are far worse things that are being revealed on this Administration and, likely, soon, very many others. But, the realtively old &#8211; 6 memo&#8217;s &#8211; are certainly indicative of more than a &#8220;let&#8217;s do what&#8217;s best for the University, the Students, the Alumni, the Taxpayers of SC and the University Employees&#8221; go &#8211; instead focusing on the &#8220;things&#8221; that would score highest in this magazine&#8217;s very questionable opinion.</p>
<p>I have to agree with you that Barker&#8217;s actions are exactly what it takes for &#8220;him&#8221; to succeed.  Get himself publicly recognized, surround himself with a totally dedicated to him Staff (no better way than to find the ones that will trade ethics for pay increases, perceived power and freedom to pillage and use those more vunerable at will), create an atmosphere where you are completely guarded against those who might question your tactics or management.</p>
<p>Obciously, mismanagement of funds is prevalent throughout the Country.  We see that in every institution, agency and most Companies to some degree &#8211; and, the problem with that Statement &#8211; it is also done at Clemson &#8211; first, is it OK at Clemson because it&#8217;s done at other places &#8211; but, my real concern there, is that it&#8217;s done at Clemson at the direct expense and emotional destruction of Clemson Employees whom, for the most part, are highly capable, highly dedicated to the University but, for a myriad of reasons have fell out of favor of &#8220;someone&#8221; &#8211; the most disgusting reason is resistance to propostions of &#8220;favors&#8221; that some Dept Head has taken offense to and set out to drive the person(s) out of their job. These victims and many others who have put their souls into their jobs at Clemson &#8211; and,the major way of retalliation &#8211; being to withold any monies, no raises &#8211; and, without creating false documentation to indicate some bogus poor performance &#8211; they are simply lied to &#8211; told that there is no money available &#8211; </p>
<p>The 6 memo&#8217;s by themselves are &#8211; not the case against Clemson Administration &#8211; the methods that are veiled in the wording of those memo&#8217;s are indicative of the thought process &#8211; and, that is personal glorification for publicity on a National Level.</p>
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		<title>By: Sad, But True</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sad, But True</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m betting that this is not that unusual. Universities pay a lot of attention to US News and World Report rankings because prospective students, parents and alumni (donors) pay a lot of attention to them. Administrators will admit privately that the rankings are, for the purposes of evaluating true academic excellence and rigor, pretty much meanlingless. Yet they ignore them at their peril. Not always a big fan of Clemson, but in this case they are not alone. I believe USC had a very public goal about climbing the USN&amp;W list a few years back when Sorenson arrived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m betting that this is not that unusual. Universities pay a lot of attention to US News and World Report rankings because prospective students, parents and alumni (donors) pay a lot of attention to them. Administrators will admit privately that the rankings are, for the purposes of evaluating true academic excellence and rigor, pretty much meanlingless. Yet they ignore them at their peril. Not always a big fan of Clemson, but in this case they are not alone. I believe USC had a very public goal about climbing the USN&amp;W list a few years back when Sorenson arrived.</p>
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		<title>By: calftiger</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you find something newsworthy... get back to us. As for you Franky, if you can&#039;t take the heat, get the heII out of the kitchen.  You are a fine example of what&#039;s wrong with this country. Excellance and acheivement have no place in a socialist environment.  And.... that is your goal.  When everyone is mediocre, then life will be fair.  Does us all a favor and hop on a plane to Cuba and take Sean Penn, Barbara Streisand and Alec Baldwin with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you find something newsworthy&#8230; get back to us. As for you Franky, if you can&#8217;t take the heat, get the heII out of the kitchen.  You are a fine example of what&#8217;s wrong with this country. Excellance and acheivement have no place in a socialist environment.  And&#8230;. that is your goal.  When everyone is mediocre, then life will be fair.  Does us all a favor and hop on a plane to Cuba and take Sean Penn, Barbara Streisand and Alec Baldwin with you.</p>
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