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	<title>Comments on: Parental Choice Savings Revealed</title>
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	<description>Unfair ... Imbalanced</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey BIN News- &quot;Voucher clowns?&quot;  That really pushes the debate forward; and why on Earth would you care who the models are in what would appear to be a standard stock photo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey BIN News- &#8220;Voucher clowns?&#8221;  That really pushes the debate forward; and why on Earth would you care who the models are in what would appear to be a standard stock photo?</p>
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		<title>By: BIN News Editorial Staff</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/04/03/parental-choice-savings-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-51127</link>
		<dc:creator>BIN News Editorial Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, sic(k) willie, please provide the source of the photo you posts with this and provide the names of those in the photo. Inquiring minds...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, sic(k) willie, please provide the source of the photo you posts with this and provide the names of those in the photo. Inquiring minds&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BIN News Editorial Staff</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/04/03/parental-choice-savings-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-51101</link>
		<dc:creator>BIN News Editorial Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 01:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This bill is just another voucher scam. All you voucher clowns do is perfume the pig and have its nails done. 

The voucher scam is still a pig. No matter what lies your bought and paid for voucher clowns dream up.

BIN News Editorial Staff
Flair and Balanced</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bill is just another voucher scam. All you voucher clowns do is perfume the pig and have its nails done. </p>
<p>The voucher scam is still a pig. No matter what lies your bought and paid for voucher clowns dream up.</p>
<p>BIN News Editorial Staff<br />
Flair and Balanced</p>
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		<title>By: baker</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/04/03/parental-choice-savings-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-51083</link>
		<dc:creator>baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question to anyone who knows: Is there an income cap for those seeking a tax credit? I think it was capped at $70,000 in the old &quot;Put Parents in Charge.&quot; Something like that. 


I&#039;d like to read Burnie Maybank&#039;s report. When PPIC was a hot topic of discussion a few years ago, someone (maybe it was Maybank) came out with a study saying how much money school choice would save public schools. But I think it&#039;s questionable, at best: 

**What are the &quot;demand&quot; estimates? And is there any reason to suspect that supply can legitimately meet demand? What about counties where the private schools are full? Maybe someone will start a new private school -- doesn&#039;t mean families are going to rush to it the way they would the established, well-heeled private schools. 

**What about the cost to public schools of losing one or two students at a time? This has been pointed out over and over (and over and over and over and....), but the school choice advocates still breeze by this issue. If a school of 400 students loses 30 students from five different grades, there is a good chance that school won&#039;t cut much in the way of costs at all....it&#039;s probably not enough to lay off a teacher, cut a bus route, reduce administrative costs, remove books from the library, sell off computers, etc. 

So, even if &quot;some of the money&quot; or whatever stays with the public school, it&#039;s likely that most schools won&#039;t be able to cut significant costs if they lose enrollment -- unless they lose really large number of students.

Again, though, that does get back to the question of private school demand and how many students might actually leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question to anyone who knows: Is there an income cap for those seeking a tax credit? I think it was capped at $70,000 in the old &#8220;Put Parents in Charge.&#8221; Something like that. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to read Burnie Maybank&#8217;s report. When PPIC was a hot topic of discussion a few years ago, someone (maybe it was Maybank) came out with a study saying how much money school choice would save public schools. But I think it&#8217;s questionable, at best: </p>
<p>**What are the &#8220;demand&#8221; estimates? And is there any reason to suspect that supply can legitimately meet demand? What about counties where the private schools are full? Maybe someone will start a new private school &#8212; doesn&#8217;t mean families are going to rush to it the way they would the established, well-heeled private schools. </p>
<p>**What about the cost to public schools of losing one or two students at a time? This has been pointed out over and over (and over and over and over and&#8230;.), but the school choice advocates still breeze by this issue. If a school of 400 students loses 30 students from five different grades, there is a good chance that school won&#8217;t cut much in the way of costs at all&#8230;.it&#8217;s probably not enough to lay off a teacher, cut a bus route, reduce administrative costs, remove books from the library, sell off computers, etc. </p>
<p>So, even if &#8220;some of the money&#8221; or whatever stays with the public school, it&#8217;s likely that most schools won&#8217;t be able to cut significant costs if they lose enrollment &#8212; unless they lose really large number of students.</p>
<p>Again, though, that does get back to the question of private school demand and how many students might actually leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/04/03/parental-choice-savings-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-51077</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palmetto_Native,

How much do current private and homeschooling families save the State of South Carolina?  Hundreds of millions of dollars.  The tax credit portion of this bill would only give them a fraction of what is currently being spent on pupils in the public school.  From what I understand, current private school students wouldn&#039;t get anything for three years while home schoolers get a $1K tax credit once the bill is passed and implemented.

The student scholarship organizations for poor children are real.  They are working in a number of other states and offer choice options for parents - regardless of skin color and regardless of zip code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palmetto_Native,</p>
<p>How much do current private and homeschooling families save the State of South Carolina?  Hundreds of millions of dollars.  The tax credit portion of this bill would only give them a fraction of what is currently being spent on pupils in the public school.  From what I understand, current private school students wouldn&#8217;t get anything for three years while home schoolers get a $1K tax credit once the bill is passed and implemented.</p>
<p>The student scholarship organizations for poor children are real.  They are working in a number of other states and offer choice options for parents &#8211; regardless of skin color and regardless of zip code.</p>
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		<title>By: Palmetto_Native</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palmetto_Native</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much will it cost to first reimburse the thousands of families that are already enrolled in private schools or are homeschooled?

lets face it, thats what this is all about.....

the whole &quot;better choices for poor children&quot; is a smokescreen to funnel the money back into the pockets of those already enrolled. How much will Bryant get back in the first year, since he home schools his kids and I doubt that he has ever even been inside a public school for any reason other than a photo shoot..

Only if there is any money left or room left in these schools will we finally see the poor, underpriveledged children be given a shot at standing in line for the few remiaing spots in these schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much will it cost to first reimburse the thousands of families that are already enrolled in private schools or are homeschooled?</p>
<p>lets face it, thats what this is all about&#8230;..</p>
<p>the whole &#8220;better choices for poor children&#8221; is a smokescreen to funnel the money back into the pockets of those already enrolled. How much will Bryant get back in the first year, since he home schools his kids and I doubt that he has ever even been inside a public school for any reason other than a photo shoot..</p>
<p>Only if there is any money left or room left in these schools will we finally see the poor, underpriveledged children be given a shot at standing in line for the few remiaing spots in these schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Toyota Kawaski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toyota Kawaski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wrong spending 8 per student and private school cost me 7 for my 3rd grader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wrong spending 8 per student and private school cost me 7 for my 3rd grader.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lesson learned?!
Rigid union dominated labor market and a monopoly on both captive students and tax revenue result in low expectations and even lower student achievement</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lesson learned?!<br />
Rigid union dominated labor market and a monopoly on both captive students and tax revenue result in low expectations and even lower student achievement</p>
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		<title>By: UpYers</title>
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		<dc:creator>UpYers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the private schools doing to provide a better learning environment for half the money. This is what we should be considering. What lessons can be learned?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the private schools doing to provide a better learning environment for half the money. This is what we should be considering. What lessons can be learned?</p>
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		<title>By: ORLY</title>
		<link>http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/04/03/parental-choice-savings-revealed/comment-page-1/#comment-51052</link>
		<dc:creator>ORLY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the fact that more money goes to the public schools and they STILL are fighting this shows that while money is great, the educrats want power more than anything else.
imagine if the economy tanks and all the kids in private schools now crawl back to the public system, that would bankrupt the districts!
if we give tax credits for crap like hydrogren development and tv commericals, why not for parents who are saving us taxpayers money by not using the public schools they are all paying for?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the fact that more money goes to the public schools and they STILL are fighting this shows that while money is great, the educrats want power more than anything else.<br />
imagine if the economy tanks and all the kids in private schools now crawl back to the public system, that would bankrupt the districts!<br />
if we give tax credits for crap like hydrogren development and tv commericals, why not for parents who are saving us taxpayers money by not using the public schools they are all paying for?!</p>
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